Operation Monsun...Something looks wrong

[robmypro]

I activated the mods (and OMEGU) in the order provided in the instructions, but I don't have a new shortcut for this mod like I see with SH3 GWX. I also don't see the same outline around the buttons at the bottom like I see in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgOuILOOgJ8

I have activated the mods. What do I do to make the mods active?

Thanks guys!

[Sailor Steve]

You already asked this in the ATO mods section, which is the correct place. Starting a new thread in every forum isn't exactly appreciated around here. One was enough.

[Sniper297]

And apparently it was moved to the correct forum, so what's the answer? I'm coming into this late, so I scanned assorted posts and downloaded OpsMonsun_V705.7z then copied the data folder into the F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific folder. Launched game, don't see das boot, career mode shows only the original US Pacific commands. Looked for an alternate executable, no gots - sh4.exe and gu.exe are the only ones in the main folder. Data folder from the zip is 1.2 gigs, is there more than that? Blasted support folder is 10 megs with 39 readme files, I skimmed the most obvious ones but there's no "start by clicking this" instructions anywhere I can find.

Anyone got a simple step by step on how to START the ATO campaign?

[Sailor Steve]

so what's the answer?
The answer to his question is that mods installed with JSGME don't create a new desktop icon. That was all he asked.

The answer to your question is that OM is not installed correctly. Did you get a message saying there was already a Data folder? It's usually best to install these things using JSGME.

[Sniper297]

Been so long since I used it I don't remember where I put JSGME. I've been playing with computers since the TRS-80, so I know how to back up and make alternate copies, so I generally copy the data folder in, answering yes to overwrites. Looking at the alternate on the F drive I have;

F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat7c

Which is one of many that aren't in the original. However I start the game, click Career, options are 1941 1942 1943 1944, Pearl Harbor Midway Asiatic, no unterzee booten anywhere. Looking over the quick play options no u boats there either.

[Sailor Steve]

Start the game again. When the loading screen comes up is it the Operation Monsun one? If not, then it isn't installed correctly.

[Sniper297]

No, it was the original screen, so I installed the latest JSGME and ran that, copied the data folder from the \OpsMonsun_V705 into the mods folder and ran it again, activating the mod which didn't change anything. Noticed there was a

F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\UPCDataGE

folder, so I copied all the folders in that to overwrite the ones in F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\UPCData and also copied the contents of F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Campaigns\CampaignGE into the F:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Campaigns\Campaign folder. That gets me the German careers but when I select one it returns the sorry error gotta close message.

Need a step by step on this, apparently extracting and copying the data folders to overwrite doesn't work, neither does the JSGME. Overwriting the regular folders with the GE specific ones gets the menu, but always crashes after that. What I got;

OpsMonsun_V705.7z

OMv705_to_V720.7z

Do I need something more than that?

[mido]

I have got exactly the same problem, everything seems to be installed correctly but no OM screen at startup, looked at the files and they seem to be in the right place but nothing changes???

And yes! I am using JSGME...

[Sailor Steve]

Step 1) Make sure that no mods are enabled in JSGME. The right-hand column should be empty.

Step 2) Make sure that OpMonsun is installed correctly in the MODS folder.

Step 3) Look at the folders. The correct path should be Silent Hunter 4/MODS/OpsMonsun v705/Data. Any other order and it won't work.

Step 4: Install OMv705_to_720. This will update it to the latest version.

Step 5: Install OMv720_Patch1

Step 6: Install the OMEGU mods the same way, if you want the environmental updates.

[Sniper297]

No listing for OMv720_Patch1, there is a OMv720_Patch5 which I'm downloading now.

From the start;
1. Copied the Ubisoft folder to another location, created shortcut, tested game.
2. Extracted JSGME to desktop. Went to C:\Documents and Settings\Jim Ward\Desktop\JSGME2_6\JSGME and copied;

\MODS
JoneSoft.txt
JSGME.exe
JSGME.ini
JSGMEHelp.txt

Pasted all that to C:\1test\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific so I should have all the correct paths, running JSGME from the root directory of SH4.

So now what I got;

C:\1test\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\OpsMonsun_V705

C:\1test\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\OMv705_to_V720

C:\1test\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\OMv720_Patch5

Finished downloading, pretty sure the directory tree is correct now, so I'll run the JSGME to activate those in that order and see what happens, be back later to report.

FIRE IN THE HOLE!

:yeah:

[Sniper297]

Crap, wet firecracker, fizzle instead of bang.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4420/78894601.jpg

That's expected, as each update and patch is installed it will overwrite previous files, so click Yes.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2463/25143203.jpg

Start career, no joy - original USA campaigns only.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9855/62153812.jpg

Here's the problem, instead of copying the German campaigns into the Campaign folder it installed in a separate CampaignGE folder. For whatever reason the game is not reading that folder. This is Windows XP Media Edition BTW, so it's not a Vista / Windows 7 UAC issue since there ain't no UAC in XP.

[Sniper297]

Just to clear up one possible source of confusion - I'm running the D2D version of Silent Hunter IV patched to 1.4, no TMO or RFB or RSRD mods. I haven't bought the 1.5 U-boat addon.
Does this Operation Monsun require the 1.5 U-boat addon or not?

[mido]

Step 1) Make sure that no mods are enabled in JSGME. The right-hand column should be empty.

Step 2) Make sure that OpMonsun is installed correctly in the MODS folder.

Step 3) Look at the folders. The correct path should be Silent Hunter 4/MODS/OpsMonsun v705/Data. Any other order and it won't work.

Step 4: Install OMv705_to_720. This will update it to the latest version.

Step 5: Install OMv720_Patch1

Step 6: Install the OMEGU mods the same way, if you want the environmental updates.
http://www.dominicanrepublicrealestateguide.com/images/SH4/Untitled-1.jpg
I installed exactly as explained here but loading screen doesn't change. Uninstalled the whole game and started from scratch but same result. Could it be that the downloaded files are corrupt? I downloaded them here on Subsim.com.

[Sniper297]

That's why I'm asking about the 1.5 uboat expansion pack, we're assuming that's not needed for this, maybe it is?

[mido]

That's why I'm asking about the 1.5 uboat expansion pack, we're assuming that's not needed for this, maybe it is?

My game is patched with the U-Boat Missions (1.5.0.0.0), I get the careers to start in 1939 but no OM loading screen. Something is missing here, anybody else out there playing OM? What should the loading screen look like?

[Sailor Steve]

No listing for OMv720_Patch1, there is a OMv720_Patch5 which I'm downloading now.
Hmmm. I don't have that one. Patch 5 should include everything that went before it.

Here's the problem, instead of copying the German campaigns into the Campaign folder it installed in a separate CampaignGE folder. For whatever reason the game is not reading that folder. This is Windows XP Media Edition BTW, so it's not a Vista / Windows 7 UAC issue since there ain't no UAC in XP.
That's weird. Can you manually move the files into the correct folder? My computer is an eight-year-old single core Pentium running XP, and everything works fine.

Just to clear up one possible source of confusion - I'm running the D2D version of Silent Hunter IV patched to 1.4, no TMO or RFB or RSRD mods. I haven't bought the 1.5 U-boat addon.
Does this Operation Monsun require the 1.5 U-boat addon or not?
It absolutely does. Without it the game doesn't even know what a u-boat is.

I installed exactly as explained here but loading screen doesn't change. Uninstalled the whole game and started from scratch but same result. Could it be that the downloaded files are corrupt? I downloaded them here on Subsim.com.
I downloaded it from there, and mine works fine.

That's why I'm asking about the 1.5 uboat expansion pack, we're assuming that's not needed for this, maybe it is?
Yes it is.

My game is patched with the U-Boat Missions (1.5.0.0.0), I get the careers to start in 1939 but no OM loading screen. Something is missing here, anybody else out there playing OM? What should the loading screen look like?
I don't currently have it installed. I'll get back to you on that. Meanwhile, if you can play a u-boat career, go for it.

[mido]

Thanks for your reply Sailor Steve! Maybe we are mistaken about the loading screen? That seems to be the only thing missing...

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks for your reply Sailor Steve! Maybe we are mistaken about the loading screen? That seems to be the only thing missing...
Maybe I am mistaken about the loading screen. I just reinstalled SH4 and installed the basic OM v705 without using JSGME, just stuck the data folder into SH4. It loaded with the regular SH4 U-Boat Missions loading screen and everything works as it should.

I could swear I had an OM loading screen before. Maybe I should stop swearing. :dead:

[mido]

Maybe I am mistaken about the loading screen. I just reinstalled SH4 and installed the basic OM v705 without using JSGME, just stuck the data folder into SH4. It loaded with the regular SH4 U-Boat Missions loading screen and everything works as it should.

I could swear I had an OM loading screen before. Maybe I should stop swearing. :dead:
Here we go...
Nevertheless, there is an alternate OM loading screen in the download section, maybe you were using that one? I will give it a try.

Thanks for your extra effort!

[Sailor Steve]

Found it! It was in the OMEGU 300 folder, which I didn't bother to install.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Silent%20Hunter%20Screenshots/Intro_logo_bkg.jpg

[mido]

OK, installed OMEGU and finally get the alternate loading screen, cool.
But it changed my game from German to English. Is there a way to get it back to German?

[Sniper297]

Well, I just went over this carefully;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=835613&postcount=1

It doesn't mention the U-Boat expansion pack anyplace that I can find, it also doesn't mention any particular version number of SH4. If it requires the 1.5 PATCH is there a free 1.5 patch someplace? Or does it need the expansion pack and that's just something everyone assumed we would know?

[Sailor Steve]

OK, installed OMEGU and finally get the alternate loading screen, cool.
But it changed my game from German to English. Is there a way to get it back to German?
Well, I'm biased, but I recommend this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1083
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1911
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1529

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I just went over this carefully;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=835613&postcount=1

It doesn't mention the U-Boat expansion pack anyplace that I can find, it also doesn't mention any particular version number of SH4. If it requires the 1.5 PATCH is there a free 1.5 patch someplace? Or does it need the expansion pack and that's just something everyone assumed we would know?
Yes, the expansion pack is the 1.5 patch, and it is only available for a price. The price is pretty low these days, though.

[mido]

Well, I'm biased, but I recommend this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1083
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1911
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1529
Thanks for the links! Why are you biased? I happen to be trilingual and watched the movie "Run silent, run deep" in English, "Das Boot" in German and Mexican movies in Spanish.

[Sailor Steve]

Why are you biased?
Because I made the mod. Well, actually it was created for SH2 by a team, whom I credit in the readme. But I converted it to use in SH3 and SH4. :D

[mido]

Because I made the mod. Well, actually it was created for SH2 by a team, whom I credit in the readme. But I converted it to use in SH3 and SH4. :D
Congratulations, excellent job!!!. And by the way, thanks to your extra effort today I am really starting to enjoy playing SH4 with OM and OMEGU. I just got sunk at U-Boot school...

But one more question, please: In the Pacific Theater it was better to shoot the torpedoes at an angle of not 90 degrees. In SH3/ GWX it was better to shoot the torpedoes as close as possible to a 90 degree angle. Is this the same with SH4 and OM?
What I try to say is the angle at impact.

[Sailor Steve]

But one more question, please: In the Pacific Theater it was better to shoot the torpedoes at an angle of not 90 degrees. In SH3/ GWX it was better to shoot the torpedoes as close as possible to a 90 degree angle. Is this the same with SH4 and OM?
What I try to say is the angle at impact.
I don't know, but I doubt it. In real life the Germans had a contact pistol that worked best with as direct a strike as possible. The American torpedoes had the problem that a direct strike could bend the firing pin and make it not work. I think that SH3 and SH4 have it correct, but while the U-boat add-on put the Germans back in, I don't think it changed the way it works in SH4.

I could be completely wrong on that.

[CapnScurvy]

Sorry to reanswer Salior Steve's post's, he's quite right......you need to have the 1.5 version of the game to try any of the latest Operation Monsun mods.

I used Direct2Drive to purchase the added German Missions patch (version 1.5) when it first came out. When D2D passed off their work to Gamefly I decided not to open another can of worms and looked for a CD version of the Gold Edition. I found it on iNetvideo (http://www.inetvideo.com/catalog/product/view/id/53992/s/silent-hunter-iv-wolves-of-the-pacific-gold-edition-used-on-pc-at-inetvideo/) for under $9.00. Received it within 3 days of purchase. I see the price has dropped since I purchased, down to under $8.00 now! :88)

Still higher than buying SH5 for only $6.49 (tells you which game is more desired). :up:

Once installed, "extract" a fresh copy of JSGME to the desktop......copy/paste the folder "MODS", and the remaining files:
JoneSoft.txt
JSGME.exe
JSGME.ini
JSGMEHelp.txt
to your UbiSoft/Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific game folder (or wherever you put it). By all means, open JSGME and go to the "Tasks" menu. Have JSGME take a Snapshot of your fresh SH4 game files. You'll use it later, after loading/unloading mods, to compare the stock game files with the files you had when the game was first installed. That's the only way of knowing for sure if your stock game files have been corrupted with the various ways mods will do. If JSGME was fool proof, they wouldn't have put this feature in it's application.

Download the following Operation Monsun and OMEGU mods found in the "Downloads" menu of this forum, look under SH4, "Mega-mods" section:
OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch 5
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 7

Make sure the 5 "extracted" above mods are in the "MODS" folder of JSGME.....with their mod title name as the first folder.......the second folder should have the title "Data" under each mod. If the "Data" folder is not in the second folder position of the mod, there's too many folders of something? in your extraction. The mod will not install correctly.

The OMEGU v300 mod is the only OM mod that provides an new/different load screen with the Operation Monsun name as a title.

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks for clearing that up, Capn. :rock: :sunny: