2012-13 Subsim NFL thread (Mayan calendar edition)

[August]

I was just oddly surprised, the Pats have been utterly destroying folks before this. Miami? Kinda shows vulnerability IMHO.

Hows that vulnerability concept working for ya now Soop? :)

[Onkel Neal]

This will be the only time I want to see the Patriots win!

What? Why?

Well you got your wish, Texans were exposed.:88)

[AVGWarhawk]

The Ravens will never catch the Patriots. I don't like the Texans(or Steelers) and this loss could play a part later on in the playoffs if my dirty birds make the playoffs. Home field advantage etc. Yesterday Cam Cameron was relieved of his position as offensive coach. Been a long time coming.

[Onkel Neal]

ok, strategy, eh? :yep:

But "don't like the Texans"? What is going on here? Everyone likes the Texans. They have "Texas" in their name, with an N thrown in. The Texans are everybody's darling. :shifty:

[nikimcbee]

Yeah Neal, what happened? It wasn't snowing? Cold yankee weather maybe?

[AVGWarhawk]

I will list the teams in order of most hated to least:

Steelers
Patriots
Texans

No harm, no foul. Everyone hates the dirty birds. :O:

Patriots won like they usually do....The Terminator. They keep going and do not stop! Sarah Conner?

[Onkel Neal]

They got battle tested and they broke :timeout:

[nikimcbee]

I will list the teams in order of most hated to least:

Steelers
Patriots
Texans

No harm, no foul. Everyone hates the dirty birds. :O:

Patriots won like they usually do....The Terminator. They keep going and do not stop! Sarah Conner?

You forgot Dallas from the #1 spot.:o

[AVGWarhawk]

The Patriots are relentless. They give you 60 minutes to beat the other team. The Patriots use it all with everything they have. We see the results.

[AVGWarhawk]

You forgot Dallas from the #1 spot.:o

Dallas kind of fell off the map in our neck of the woods as a team to dislike or a rival.

[nikimcbee]

They got battle tested and they broke :timeout:

was it a reinactment of the Alamo? I was gunna say Custer's Last Stand, but that honor goes to the cards.:o:haha: (or what's left of them):dead:

@ Neal, congrats to Jonny Heisman:salute:.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Patriots treated the Texans like all the other teams. Amateurs. The only thing I can add about the Patriots is this, they are deadly all 4 quarters or Brady gets rattled thus folding the rest of the game resulting in a loss. Very rarely in between.


I also think Brady has his own yellow foul flag he throws to draw the foul. :haha: He cries an awful lot.

[geetrue]

FINAL Score

Chargershttp://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.12/img/logos/teams-matte-mascot-41x28/chargers.png 34 - 24Steelers

Very small chance, but still a chance for the Chargers to make the playoffs as a wild card team tied with Pittsburgh at 8 and 8 with the tie breaker being their last game above that the Chargers won

in order for this to happen Baltimore has to continue to win the division winner and Cincinnati has to continue to lose starting this thursday night at Philly and then lsoe their last two games to wind up 7-9

Cleveland has to lose one more game as well as Buffalo and Maimi have to both lsoe one more game each to wind up 7-9

Pittsburgh has to lose two more games and the Chargers have to win their last three games, easy ... right?

Never give up ... Chargers are still the only team to have gone to the play offs at 8 and 8 and now they can be the second one to do it again.

This Norv Turners 100th game I predict a win sunday for sure

San Diego's last three games

Week 15
Carolina Panthers
Sun, 12/16 at 1:05 PM PST
Home:
Qualcomm Stadium



Week 16
@ New York Jets
Sun, 12/23 at 10:00 AM PST
Away:
MetLife Stadium




Week 17

Oakland Raiders

Sun, 12/30 at 1:25 PM PST
Home:

[soopaman2]

Cannot wait for the 49ers and Patriots.

I had this game circled, because it was the hardest game on the schedule.

Brandon Jacobs is an asshat. He is continuing his me me me attitude.

Bawww I am not playing, sit down the last 3 games you jerk. I would expect this from Randy Moss, who has been working with the young guys and keeping his trap shut. (He has been a model citizen, positive and helpful to our young reciever corp) We got Frank Gore, the best RB in 49er history, and Kendall Hunter, who is explosive ahead of you.

Be happy you got a chance to play for a team who is capible of going all the way, listen to your coaches, and collect your overinflated salary.

I see why the Giants ditched him..

[Onkel Neal]

The Patriots treated the Texans like all the other teams. Amateurs.



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5mgfDw9ApVU/UBrptxZM1KI/AAAAAAAAAtQ/Eq9HE1Uv7qo/s1600/Eli+Manning.jpg

[RickC Sniper]

FINAL Score

Chargershttp://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.12/img/logos/teams-matte-mascot-41x28/chargers.png 34 - 24Steelers

Very small chance, but still a chance for the Chargers to make the playoffs as a wild card team tied with Pittsburgh at 8 and 8 with the tie breaker being their last game above that the Chargers won.
Panthers
@Jets
Raiders
:

Well, their schedule helps. Those three teams are certainly beatable. Don't you hate it though when you need all that help from other teams?
Good Luck to your team! :ping:

[padi]

Well, their schedule helps. Those three teams are certainly beatable. Don't you hate it though when you need all that help from other teams?
Good Luck to your team! :ping:

FINAL Score

Chargershttp://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.12/img/logos/teams-matte-mascot-41x28/chargers.png 34 - 24Steelers

Very small chance, but still a chance for the Chargers to make the playoffs as a wild card team tied with Pittsburgh at 8 and 8 with the tie breaker being their last game above that the Chargers won

in order for this to happen Baltimore has to continue to win the division winner and Cincinnati has to continue to lose starting this thursday night at Philly and then lsoe their last two games to wind up 7-9

Cleveland has to lose one more game as well as Buffalo and Maimi have to both lsoe one more game each to wind up 7-9

Pittsburgh has to lose two more games and the Chargers have to win their last three games, easy ... right?

Never give up ... Chargers are still the only team to have gone to the play offs at 8 and 8 and now they can be the second one to do it again.

This Norv Turners 100th game I predict a win sunday for sure

San Diego's last three games

Week 15
Carolina Panthers
Sun, 12/16 at 1:05 PM PST
Home:
Qualcomm Stadium



Week 16
@ New York Jets
Sun, 12/23 at 10:00 AM PST
Away:
MetLife Stadium




Week 17

Oakland Raiders

Sun, 12/30 at 1:25 PM PST
Home:

I hope that the next Superbowl is Chargers - 49ers and the Chargers beat them...
The Revanche for 1994.

We Beat them.
Did you think that too?

[soopaman2]

I hope that the next Superbowl is Chargers - 49ers and the Chargers beat them...
The Revanche for 1994.

We Beat them.
Did you think that too?

Good luck with that. :D Fun but not gonna happen on 2 levels. Chargers will not make it, and they cannot beat the niners ;)

Cali pride is fun though. (Points at his location and smirks)

We would rather have the Raiders, 49er fans HATE them!

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_22177533/bill-belichick-has-praise-san-francisco-49ers-coach

Kudos to coach Belichick.

I wish the rest of the league respected the niners as much as this man.

It means alot coming from a coach as sucessful as him.

This Smith/Kaepernick qb "controversy" thing is causing waves, alot of folks see it as a bad choice. Something Coach B had to tolerate himself, being second guessed by so called experts..

[August]

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_22177533/bill-belichick-has-praise-san-francisco-49ers-coach

Kudos to coach Belichick.

I wish the rest of the league respected the niners as much as this man.

It means alot coming from a coach as sucessful as him.

This Smith/Kaepernick qb "controversy" thing is causing waves, alot of folks see it as a bad choice. Something Coach B had to tolerate himself, being second guessed by so called experts..

Belichick shows respect for your team when he's talking to our media too. Check it out:
http://www.patriots.com/media-center/videos/Bill_Belichick_Press_Conference_12122012/693f3131-c4bb-4001-8578-a0e19d19f0f8

[soopaman2]

Mr. B seems so miserable dealing with these press people.

He also seemed irritated having to talk about another teams QB.

Is that a sound issue or is he sucking his teeth after every sentence?

He seemed respectful, but seems to want to talk about his team, and not the 49ers, which is where the press is taking it.

It would annoy me too, to have to talk about Tebow and Kaepernick, rather than my own guys.

On a side note watching your link, August, and not knowing coach B as well as you, is he always this "cold and serious"?

Not a bad thing, he has the results, which is all that matters.

[geetrue]

Cannot wait for the 49ers and Patriots.

I had this game circled, because it was the hardest game on the schedule.

Sounds like a mini super bowl AFC New England vs NFC San Francisco

I'll be glad when the NFC plays only the NFC and the AFC plays only the AFC till the Super Bowl. :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Everyone hates the dirty birds. :O:


Lol, I just noticed this, you sound like Annie Wilkes :O:

[soopaman2]

Sounds like a mini super bowl AFC New England vs NFC San Francisco

I'll be glad when the NFC plays only the NFC and the AFC plays only the AFC till the Super Bowl. :yep:


If there is a god, and he has any kind of justice and fairness, that will be the Super Bowl this year.

Epic defense vs epic offense.

Yes, wishful thinking:D

Though I know better.

[AVGWarhawk]

Lol, I just noticed this, you sound like Annie Wilkes :O:

No hobbling though! :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Belichick shows respect for your team when he's talking to our media too. Check it out:
http://www.patriots.com/media-center/videos/Bill_Belichick_Press_Conference_12122012/693f3131-c4bb-4001-8578-a0e19d19f0f8

Belichicki always talks it up when speaking of the opposing team. Always!

[AVGWarhawk]

Mr. B seems so miserable dealing with these press people.

He also seemed irritated having to talk about another teams QB.

Is that a sound issue or is he sucking his teeth after every sentence?

He seemed respectful, but seems to want to talk about his team, and not the 49ers, which is where the press is taking it.

It would annoy me too, to have to talk about Tebow and Kaepernick, rather than my own guys.

On a side note watching your link, August, and not knowing coach B as well as you, is he always this "cold and serious"?

Not a bad thing, he has the results, which is all that matters.

This has been his demeanor for years. Always talks up the other team up then hands their ass to them. Classic Belch-ick.

[soopaman2]

This has been his demeanor for years. Always talks up the other team up then hands their ass to them. Classic Belch-ick.

I do not love him, but I vastly respect him.

Thanks for the answer.:salute:

[August]

On a side note watching your link, August, and not knowing coach B as well as you, is he always this "cold and serious"?


We call it "Quietly Competent" but yeah that's Bill. :)

[AVGWarhawk]

We call it "Quietly Competent" but yeah that's Bill. :)

That is Bill for sure. He will sing nothing but accolades about the opposing team for a week. It psychs out the opposing team. Gets them feeling overconfident. You know, take a break fellas, coach Belching is thinking we will kick their butts. Little do they know Brady and co are coming out like a Panzer division. Coach Belching gets the Ravens like this every game. :haha: Love him or hate him, coach Belchingick can run a team.

[nikimcbee]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50ad2312/turbine/chi-minnesota-vikings-adrian-peterson-offers-a-001/600

[RickC Sniper]

Purple Jesus had a great day. I don't think he'll catch Dickerson's record though, with Houston and Green Bay left to play.

I hope he does, but I just don't think he will.

[nikimcbee]

Purple Jesus had a great day. I don't think he'll catch Dickerson's record though, with Houston and Green Bay left to play.

I hope he does, but I just don't think he will.

That is a true statement I think. Clay Mathews is back:down: and I think Texas has a good run defence, but I haven't followed them closely.

Blair Walsh is now the all time Vike leading rookie scorer:salute:.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens are taking a holiday this season. Sheesh....

[nikimcbee]

Holy Seachickens Batman! And they did that on the Road!:o

[RickC Sniper]

That is a true statement I think. Clay Mathews is back:down: and I think Texas has a good run defence, but I haven't followed them closely.

Blair Walsh is now the all time Vike leading rookie scorer:salute:.

The amazing thing about Peterson's run at that record is that he only had one 100 yard game in the first six games of the season. If he'd had a better start........WOW!

[soopaman2]

Halftime in New England.

Kaepernick doing a goodjob of keeping Brady off the field.
49ers defense doing a great job containing him when he is on the field.

I'd call it a win with any other team but not NE.

The score should really be alot more lopsided, alot of squandered chances.
But what is a December game in Foxboro without wet snow/freezing rain and alot of fumbles?:D

[August]

Ah we ain't getting it done tonight that is for sure.

[soopaman2]

See why I was wary?

Tom Brady is Tom Brady, and is explosive.

I took a few things away from this game. 49ers can score points this year, and they are less likely to fold when things turned bad ( as it did last night) From a blowout to a shootout in a half a quarter.

The second thing is Kaepernick is the QB of the future, He threw 3 long TD bullets. He has a stronger arm than Alex Smith, more accurate, and can run just as fast as RG3. He is much better at leading the recievers.
Though I feel bad for Alex Smith, he was the 5th best in the league when he lost his job. He is a great team player, and any team who can get him should, he is a good qb *nudges the Jets*

August, no shame for the Pats. You were playing the Niners, not the Jaguars :O:

...And you still got Tom Brady. The best of all time (and I am a big Montana and Young guy, so that is a compliment):D

Epic game, we had nasty weather, slippery ball, great offense, great defense, high scoring, exciting,knockdown street brawl. If Blood makes the grass grow, then the New England ground crew is giving out overtime hours this week.

[August]

Eh, it's better that we lost now. That way when we meet them again in the SB Bill will have put together a plan for beating them. :)

[soopaman2]

Eh, it's better that we lost now. That way when we meet them again in the SB Bill will have put together a plan for beating them. :)

I'd rather not play you guys again...:D Last night aged me 10 years.

Tom Brady scares me. Id rather take my chances with Peyton Manning. :03:

[AVGWarhawk]

Steelers lost. Ravens a wild card. Only prolonging the agony of getting our butts handed to us by the Pats. :-?

[August]

I'd rather not play you guys again...:D Last night aged me 10 years.

Tom Brady scares me. Id rather take my chances with Peyton Manning. :03:

You guys have nothing to be scared about. That young QB (his name which I will not attempt to spell) that you guys got is destined for greatness I think.

[soopaman2]

Freaking sportscenter, what is this win probability crap? What is it based on, all opinion. I hate the new sportscenter, I miss Olbermann and Dan Patrick. Damn I am old. :)

They are kissing the 49ers asses (I am a niner fan) and they barely won that game.

Few lucky catches, and a few great punts to put NE within 10 yards of the endzone.

Yesterday afternoon, New England was the runaway favorite, now they are scrubs.

I HATE the media...

BTW Kaepernick runs a faster 40 yd dash than RG3, and actually can throw deep. Attention please?!

Give the young man some love, he is no scrub.

And do not count out NE, they will be AFC champs.
(edit: yes even over Denver, Payton is great, but the patriots are better, IMHO)

[Takeda Shingen]

They are kissing the 49ers asses (I am a niner fan) and they barely won that game.

You whine when the sports media ignores or does not give proper credit to the 49ers. Now you whine when they give credit to the 49ers. My god, man, is there no pleasing a Niners fan (who should really be a Giants or Jets fan)?

I'm just happy whenever the Eagles are not playing. No chance of defeat then.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm just happy whenever the Eagles are not playing. No chance of defeat then.

Haha...the same perspective I have with the Ravens. What a dismal season...:-?

[soopaman2]

You whine when the sports media ignores or does not give proper credit to the 49ers. Now you whine when they give credit to the 49ers. My god, man, is there no pleasing a Niners fan (who should really be a Giants or Jets fan)?

I'm just happy whenever the Eagles are not playing. No chance of defeat then.

No sir, I am just trying to relive the days of my youth.

Joe Montana to John Taylor.

Steve Young to Jerry Rice/ Brent Jones.

Not that I am unpleasable, just that the venerable Tom Brady should not be ignored.

You never know you are watching a living legend until he is gone, I just want folks to appreciate Brady.:D

49ers will always be a joke until they win, I have resigned myself to that fact. Then maybe we can have back our glory from the 80s. Until then NE is top of the heap.

Side edit: My family is why I hate the NY teams. pompous asses, I root against them, hence why i dislike the NY teams. I like the Knicks, Yankees and Devils otherwise, my football team just happened strangely.

Unless you are callin me a frontrunner? Nah I suffered through all the bad.

[August]

Yesterday afternoon, New England was the runaway favorite, now they are scrubs.

I HATE the media...

Me too. Our boys did a lot better when they were seen as the underdogs. In fact the unofficial name for the Superbowl winning 2001 season was the "We don't get no respect tour".[/QUOTE]

Nothing seems to motivate an NFL team like a lack of respect...

[AVGWarhawk]

The media will turn on you like a dog in heat.

[soopaman2]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000113031/article/colin-kaepernick-foretold-future-in-fourthgrade-letter

If the QB thing does not work out, maybe he has a future in fortune telling?

[geetrue]

Haha...the same perspective I have with the Ravens. What a dismal season...:-?

After what the Ravens did to the Chargers with only 1:44 seconds left in the game on a 4th and 29 yards to go ...

Only the chargers can say what a rotten season :yep:

[soopaman2]

The jets just botched a gift from god.

Disgusting...

I kinda feel bad for Sanchez. He is not bad, he is just not being coached right IMHO. He has no running game behind him. You cannot win a game with no running game.

The Tebow carny show wasn't exactly productive either. I'm sure Mark Sanchez was affected by it, despite the forced honeyed words he gave the press.

Jets are broken institutionally, but Sanchez will be the scapegoat.

[eddie]

I don't care how many more SB Brady plays in, there's no way he can beat Montana's record! Do you know what the record is?

[soopaman2]

I don't care how many more SB Brady plays in, there's no way he can beat Montana's record! Do you know what the record is?


His super bowl ring count?

As a niner fan, this post made me feel good.

As a logical human, I cannot agree, as much as it breaks my heart.

Love him or hate him, Tom Brady and Bill Bellichek (sp?) is the new Bill Walsh and Joe Montana.

Now lets see if they can come up with a Steve Young type (Hall of Famer, and all around good guy), to continue the Dynasty, that will be the hard part.:D

Pats is the only team I have any real respect for than my own, I look forward to beating them in the super bowl, after we kick the mess outta Seattle in their house tonite. :P., like we did in New England last week, against the best of the best. (Lucky for us, Gronk was out, he is awesome.)

[eddie]

I don't hate Brady, he's one of the best. But he can't beat Joe's record of never having lost a Super Bowl.

[nikimcbee]

Gunna go watch the vike/texan game on my lunch break.:/\\k:

[soopaman2]

I don't hate Brady, he's one of the best. But he can't beat Joe's record of never having lost a Super Bowl.


Ah you got me! My guess was wrong, and I agree.

Kaepernick, he is the next big thing for the red and gold!
A Wisconsin boy, who wanted to play for the Pack or the Niners, as a 10 year old, lucky him!

[nikimcbee]

So Neal, If the Vikes win today, I think you have to watch Prince's "Purple Rain" and wear a purple #28 jersey all week at school.:hmm2::haha:

[nikimcbee]

uh-oh....:hmm2:

[nikimcbee]

there there, nothing an 80's power ballad can't fix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40nYZbX0uCM

....and just for Neal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKvUeIz44w

http://www.amazon.com/The-Very-Best-Prince/dp/B00005M989/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356298254&sr=8-1&keywords=princes+greatest+hits



What was your shirt size again?
http://c-product.images.fansedge.com/22-22/22-22026-2-Y.jpg

Purple boots and cowboy hat have been ordered.

[nikimcbee]

http://www.sewnola.com/images/products/whodat_shirt_medium.jpg

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/0/49/202391/55091-650-366.jpg

[RickC Sniper]

Gunna go watch the vike/texan game on my lunch break.:/\\k:


I just hope this win doesn't save Ponder's job. :/\\!!


Would you happen to know why Gerhart was used on the last two Vikings possessions? I was told Peterson was on the sideline.

Injury?

[Onkel Neal]

there there, nothing an 80's power ballad can't fix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40nYZbX0uCM

....and just for Neal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKvUeIz44w

http://www.amazon.com/The-Very-Best-Prince/dp/B00005M989/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356298254&sr=8-1&keywords=princes+greatest+hits



What was your shirt size again?
http://c-product.images.fansedge.com/22-22/22-22026-2-Y.jpg

Purple boots and cowboy hat have been ordered.

Yah, send them on. Texans are really looking like they peaked... 6 weeks ago. Give me the Broncos and the Redskins in the SB. Go Manning!:rock:

[nikimcbee]

What about the Raiders?:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I just hope this win doesn't save Ponder's job. :/\\!!


Would you happen to know why Gerhart was used on the last two Vikings possessions? I was told Peterson was on the sideline.

Injury?

Yeah I saw that. He looked okay to me. I hope he's charging his batteries to rush for 209 yards next week.:hmm2:


Speaking of that...

Go go gadget Beast mode....

By the power of greyskull!!!!!

Taste the rainbow!
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFODUfiiGdRDL8muBVZr2rOxOTcXqF7 kqBleNA0gFCk6BI1OSU1rqofQw

[August]

Our boys did good enough to beat Jacksonville but it wasn't pretty.

[TarJak]

Winning pretty almost never matters. Only in movies. I see the Faders are still rubbish.:nope:

[mookiemookie]

So Neal, If the Vikes win today, I think you have to watch Prince's "Purple Rain" and wear a purple #28 jersey all week at school.:hmm2::haha:

Since the Texans had Petersen bottled up all day (about the only thing they could do right) the bet shouldn't stand even though they lost. :arrgh!:

[nikimcbee]

Winning pretty almost never matters. Only in movies. I see the Faders are still rubbish.:nope:

They did score a season high of 6 points.:o:haha:

[nikimcbee]

Since the Texans had Petersen bottled up all day (about the only thing they could do right) the bet shouldn't stand even though they lost. :arrgh!:

Power ballad for you good sir.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0

You may have slowed up PJ, but you didn't stop:
http://wallpapersget.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nfl-minnesota-vikings-christian-ponder-600x450.jpg

Hot girlfriend not included.

[nikimcbee]

Ponder passed for 174 yards:o:haha:, that's like, a whole months worth of stats for him:shifty:.
You do you sharp Mookie in that #7 jersey:up:. Do you want me to order you some matching boots/hat too?:D

[soopaman2]

*blushes in embarassment*

That QB for Seattle is pretty good. Slippery like a weasel, the new trend it seems, fast quarterbacks.

Hey at least I am not the giants! My team is in no matter what happens the rest of the season.

Plus my niners (faithful!), they gave me a a thrill this season, and I highly enjoyed it, I would like them to win the Super Bowl, but the realist in me is telling me this is New England or Denvers years. They sucked for so long, laughed at, joked about, now they are seen as dangerous.

The Giants need someone to build them a Rube Goldberg device to get in.

They have to win.
Viking and Bears have to lose.

:haha::haha::har::har::haha::haha:

(I feel the same way about the Giants, as most people in the country feel about the NY Yankees.)

Heya "champs". Tom Brady is getting another ring, your washing out last week of the season!
:haha::haha::haha:

My Niners wore panties for last nite. I need to make myself feel better by smashing the Giants.
:O:

I am sure no one minds.

And even now, no one has got it better than us!

Nooooobody!

[nikimcbee]

Week 17.
http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

[nikimcbee]

A dramatic re-enactment of the Texans season:dead::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSY94QVIss

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, Texans looked prime to go one and out.

Meanwhile, I'm jumping ship to the Broncos! :smug:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens are a one and out as well IMO. Like the old saying, "There is always next year."

Dirty bird. :stare:

[Takeda Shingen]

Best news all season:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/andy-reid-is-officially-out-as-eagles-coach/related/

Two down, one to go and then I can put my Eagles sig up next season.

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, someone had to take the blame. It is usually the coach. Do the Eagles have any prospects?

[eddie]

A whole bunch of coaches are looking for work now!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/black-monday-tracking-coaching-gm-decisions-123112

[geetrue]

Good bye old Norm I actually feel sorry for him, but I saw him smiling yesterday after the Chargers beat Oakland 24-21 :yep:


Chargers fire coach Turner along with GM Smith


I can' believe they kept Rex Ryan that guy must have something on the owner with the GM out and his staying ... give me a break :woot:

A Busy Day for N.F.L. Coach Firings

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/sports/football/eagles-reid-among-fired-nfl-coaches.html?_r=0


The N.F.L. coaches Andy Reid of the Philadelphia Eagles (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/philadelphiaeagles/index.html?inline=nyt-org), Pat Shurmur of the Cleveland Browns (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/clevelandbrowns/index.html?inline=nyt-org), Romeo Crennel of the Kansas City Chiefs (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/kansascitychiefs/index.html?inline=nyt-org), Norv Turner of the San Diego Chargers and Chan Gailey of the Buffalo Bills (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/buffalobills/index.html?inline=nyt-org) were dismissed on Monday by their teams after losing seasons, and Lovie Smith of the Chicago Bears was also fired, after his team finished 10-6 but did not make the playoffs.

The Jets decided to keep their coach, Rex Ryan, but fired General Manager Mike Tannenbaum. The Browns made it a clean sweep, dismissing General Manager Tom Heckert along with Shurmur. Reid was the longest tenured of the group, let go after 14 seasons with the Eagles.

[AVGWarhawk]

You are not kidding! :o

[soopaman2]

Our boys did good enough to beat Jacksonville but it wasn't pretty.


A conundrum if I ever heard it.

I hate the term "winning pretty"

Alot more heart in "winning gritty"

Minnesota Vikings can tell you about that!
Last years 49ers and Giants could too.

The only final judgement is a win or a loss. Even if it was luck, or steller skill.

Seeya in the Bowl August, your Pats are objectively speaking, the best in the AFC.

My Niners on the other hand, may need a few breaks, and a breakout performance from Kaepernick.

I love the kid, but he is still a rookie starter, and the playoffs are an intense situation. Makes dumb rookie mistakes at times still, which in the playoffs will break your teams chances.

Good luck to all.

BTW, Niners vs Pats Bowl would be epic. Though me and August may kill each other before the 2 week bye is up if it happens :O::salute:

[August]

BTW, Niners vs Pats Bowl would be epic. Though me and August may kill each other before the 2 week bye is up if it happens :O::salute:

Nah, when your team has lost more super bowls than they have won you learn not to trash talk before hand. :) It's Bad Mojo. :yep:

(queue Stevie Wonder tune)

[Onkel Neal]

The Fastest Player in the History of Each NFL Franchise (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1401843-the-fastest-player-in-the-history-of-each-nfl-franchise/page/3)

I think it would be cool if each team sent its fastest player to the Pro Bowl for a race off, and the winner got some kind of bonus, like an extra draft pick... :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ray Lewis retiring after 17 years. Nice to have him play for those years but the game has taken it's toll. Time for others to play the position.

The Ravens will play our old ghost from years past....Colts.

[soopaman2]

Ray Lewis retiring after 17 years. Nice to have him play for those years but the game has taken it's toll. Time for others to play the position.

The Ravens will play our old ghost from years past....Colts.


Ray Lewis is a class act. A beast on the field, and a good man off of it. He does alot of charity work, be it appearances or donations.

He caught alot of bad press with that murder trial, but he is a hall of famer, first ballot, and great for his community.

Baltimore will miss him, but at least he is getting out before he is a half cripple, with one concussion too many, or a blown out knee etc. He deserves to enjoy the fruits of his labors.

Maybe he can get into sportscasting. He is likeable and credible enough.

Maybe FOX can get rid of that monotone borefest Troy Aikman.

(Great QB, cynical jerk when calling a game, I though Joe Buck was bad with concentrating on negatives too much)

[AVGWarhawk]

Ray needs to become a defensive coach. :03:

[soopaman2]

Ray needs to become a defensive coach. :03:


Yeah, but I worry about the disease I researched and named.

Mike Singletary syndrome.

Where a great player runs a team the wrong way and just splats against the wall ruining their legacy. I mean he was an awesome player, scary, dominating.

SF 49ers under Singletary as coach in 2010 was 5-10.
(edit:yeah 15 games, he was fired before the last week, they blew out the cards the last week by 30 points under an interim coach)
Under Harbaugh, with pretty much the same team, the next year they were 13-3, and almost (shoulda been :() NFC champs.

To sum it up, having outright skill, does not equate to being able to teach or lead.

(No disrespect to Mike Singletary intended, him and "the Fridge" made the bears a fun team to watch in my formative days.

[nikimcbee]

It's time for the coach shuffle, all coaches move to the next team to the right.:dead::o

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, but I worry about the disease I researched and named.

Mike Singletary syndrome.

Where a great player runs a team the wrong way and just splats against the wall ruining their legacy. I mean he was an awesome player, scary, dominating.

SF 49ers under Singletary as coach in 2010 was 5-10.
(edit:yeah 15 games, he was fired before the last week, they blew out the cards the last week by 30 points under an interim coach)
Under Harbaugh, with pretty much the same team, the next year they were 13-3, and almost (shoulda been :() NFC champs.

To sum it up, having outright skill, does not equate to being able to teach or lead.

(No disrespect to Mike Singletary intended, him and "the Fridge" made the bears a fun team to watch in my formative days.

Other than calling a few plays the coach inspires and leads. Ray Lewis spent his entire career inspiring and leading the defensive team. I think Ray could handle it. And if you as a player under his coaching fail to perform will have their head crushed personally by Ray. :stare::haha:

[geetrue]

I think Ray could handle it. And if you as a player under his coaching fail to perform will have their head crushed personally by Ray. :stare::haha:

As far as head bunting goes ... Ray has to remember that as a coach he doesn't have a helmet on anymore :D

[AVGWarhawk]

As far as head bunting goes ... Ray has to remember that as a coach he doesn't have a helmet on anymore :D

I don' t think he needs one. :haha:

[geetrue]

Time to pick the play off winners ...
winner of all four games gets a free pre-look
at the super bowl commercials just stay tuned
for time on your local channel.

Bengals at Texans (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010500/2012/POST18/bengals@texans) geetrue picks Bengals

Vikings at Packers (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010501/2012/POST18/vikings@packers) geetrue picks Packers


Colts at Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010600/2012/POST18/colts@ravens) geetrue picks Colts

Seahawks at Redskins geetrue picks Redskins

[nikimcbee]

Time to pick the play off winners ...
winner of all four games gets a free pre-look
at the super bowl commercials just stay tuned
for time on your local channel.

Bengals at Texans (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010500/2012/POST18/bengals@texans) geetrue picks Bengals

Vikings at Packers (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010501/2012/POST18/vikings@packers) geetrue picks Packers


Colts at Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013010600/2012/POST18/colts@ravens) geetrue picks Colts

Seahawks at Redskins geetrue picks Redskins

I pick Bengals. Texans have past cruch depth three weeks ago.

Packers:shifty:. Ponder's the weakest link. If he had better receivers, I'm picking Vikes.

Colts.

Seahawks, but this is a toughy. I think the Seahawks have more quality wins, but they aren't at home. They are pretty even though. Flip of the coin.

[soopaman2]

My guesses?

Packers to play the Niners.

Skins to play the Falcons.

In the AFC I got Houston and Baltimore, yes, the overrated sack of maggots named luck will not have luck this week.


On a side note, Luck is a joke. Play a real team, you too Atlanta, products of an easy schedule.

[nikimcbee]

Any picks on rookie of the year?

http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2012/YEAR/0?module=HP11_content_stream_voting_pepsi#playerId :0ap2000000112266

[soopaman2]

Any picks on rookie of the year?

http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2012/YEAR/0?module=HP11_content_stream_voting_pepsi#playerId :0ap2000000112266


As Niner fan, and an utter hatred of the Seachickens.

I have to go with Russel Wilson.

Here is why.

I judge a Rookie of the year the same way I judge an MVP.

I ask, what did you do for your team?

Wilson did the most, with next to zero hype, or media attention/ respect until late year.

He took what was supposed to be a mediocre team to what would have been the best team in the NFC west was it not for a 49er tie.

3rd best team in the NFC.

He is fast and smart, and unlike RG3 he realizes he is a quarterback first.

He puts his team first, and not his own run records or hype, like others (RG3)

(edit: Wilson picked apart one of the most intimidating defenses in the league (49ers) with ease. Not an easy task for anyone)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Packers....

Nice to see the whole team back together.

[soopaman2]

Packers....

Nice to see the whole team back together.


Heya Pack! Congrats!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvCqUguIh8

Scott neglects mentioning the crushing defense, and surprisingly productive offense. Pack has their hands full.

Good luck!

Watching Ray Lewis' last game as I type, treasure this.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens pulled it off against the Colts. :shucks:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Heya Pack! Congrats!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvCqUguIh8

Scott neglects mentioning the crushing defense, and surprisingly productive offense. Pack has their hands full.

Good luck!

Watching Ray Lewis' last game as I type, treasure this.

Same to you. You guys have had a great year, but time to step up and do it in the playoffs....

It will be a different game then the last one these two teams played.

[nikimcbee]

Taste the rainbow.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2011/12/01/Lynch-carries-Seahawks-over-Eagles-12LMLJF-x-large.jpg

[eddie]

Looks like Sherman from the Seahawks has to learn to keep his mouth shut!

http://msn.foxsports.com/lacesout/richard-sherman-pushed-in-face/

[Takeda Shingen]

A bad winner is far worse than a poor loser.

[AVGWarhawk]

He will probably be eating turf next weekend.

[mookiemookie]

Cortland Finnegan is another bigmouth. Sherman should remember what happens to guys with big mouths.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1128/nfl_i_finnegan-johnson02_300.jpg

[ReallyDedPoet]

Cortland Finnegan is another bigmouth. Sherman should remember what happens to guys with big mouths.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1128/nfl_i_finnegan-johnson02_300.jpg

Different sport but same idea ^^^ , though it had more to do with a dirty hit by Claude Lemieux on Chris Draper back a number of years ago in the NHL Playoffs. Having said that Lemieux was well known for being a pest and big mouth when he played.

Of note tough guy Darren McCarty is the player causing Lemieux to turtle....

http://redwingsrule1.homestead.com/files/mac-lemieux01.gif

[nikimcbee]

Make your picks, round II. Fight!

Ravens v Broncos


Cheezheadz v 49ers


Seahawks v Falcons


Texans v Patriots

[soopaman2]

Same to you. You guys have had a great year, but time to step up and do it in the playoffs....

It will be a different game then the last one these two teams played.


Yeah, first game of the year, was the last time we met.

I have to admit, the young qb makes me nervous sometimes, though his skill is so much better than Smith. Rodgers is a beast. Scary QB and a hell of a guy to boot, which makes it hard to hate him! ;)

The Championship belt gesture is banned from my house until next Monday morning, and anyone chuckling at a State Farm commercial gets to split firewood.

Doing all this while hiding from the local Giant fans is amusing.

Talk about BITTER!:D

[mookiemookie]

Make your picks, round II. Fight!

Ravens v Broncos


Cheezheadz v 49ers


Seahawks v Falcons


Texans v Patriots

Bronc's
Pack
Seahawks
As much as it pains me to say it: Pats.

[soopaman2]

I will just say this.

Fear the Niners.

The offense has doubled its score output under Kaepernick.

That defense, well I can write a college thesis on them.

Alot of pundits and fans in general discounting them, but 2 years ago they were 6-10, the next year they were second best in the NFC, and lost by luck in the NFC championships last year.

No real respect yet, from any mainstream press.

Thats fine, keep thinking they are the 6 win jokes from years past.

WHOOOOOOOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?

NOOOOOOOBODY!

-49er faithful-

[AVGWarhawk]

Bronc's
Pack
Seahawks
As much as it pains me to say it: Pats.

I go Raven's of course :D
Pack
Falcons
Texans(get after Brady he gets rattled and folds like a pup tent)

[Takeda Shingen]

My picks:

Baltimore
Green Bay
Atlanta
New England

[ReallyDedPoet]

Denver ---- Tough one, but I think it comes down to Peyton. But the same could be said of Ray....
New England ---- Belichick and home-field advantage. Plus Brady has most of his weapons back.
Seattle ---- Lynch, Atlanta gives up 120 + rush yards a game. If he gets going watch out.
Packers ---- C'mon man, what did you expect :)

[eddie]

Seahawks have lost Clemons!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chris-clemons-seattle-seahawks-pass-rusher-knee-injury-torn-acl-010713

[geetrue]

Ravens v Broncos


Cheezheadz v 49ers


Seahawks v Falcons


Texans v Patriots

I only won one game last weekend choosing Green Bay and as much as I would
like to see a Seattle Seahawks vs Green Bay Packers rematch ... :yeah:

I will have to go with all home teams this week-end :know:

Denver

San Francisco

Atlanta

New England
__________________

[AVGWarhawk]

Packers ---- C'mon man, what did you expect :)


A try of cheese and six pack. :D

[eddie]

Those of us who own Second and Ten, a stat based pc football game, just received the 2012 playoff teams, will be fun to compare against the results we've already seen so far!

Going to pick Denver, San Francisco, Atlanta, and finally, Houston!

[ReallyDedPoet]

A try of cheese and six pack. :D
:lol::lol:

[nikimcbee]

Make your picks, round II. Fight!

Ravens v Broncos


Cheezheadz v 49ers


Seahawks v Falcons


Texans v Patriots

Broncos: I'll spot the Ravens 4 tds, Manning wins by 14.
49ers, if running game and defence show up.
Seahawks, Rookie of the year + the Beast....
Pats: See last matchup.:hmm2:

[Onkel Neal]

My friend Is flying to Boston Saturday night to watch the game. I just don't understand why he wants to submit himself to that kind of torture.

[mookiemookie]

A month ago, Phil B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star introduced the world to Mr. Danny Webber, a diehard 74-year-old Colts fan suffering from terminal prostate cancer. One of Mr. Webber's last wishes was to attend a Colts game, which he was able to do back in Week Three of this year.

This is the video of that day. It's been a while since I saw something that brought tears to my eyes, but this did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uU1sK9HLpFo

Danny Webber passed away yesterday.

[AVGWarhawk]

My friend Is flying to Boston Saturday night to watch the game. I just don't understand why he wants to submit himself to that kind of torture.

No sir. If the Texans get after Brady and rattle him he will fold up like a pup tent. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

This is the video of that day. It's been a while since I saw something that brought tears to my eyes, but this did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uU1sK9HLpFo

Danny Webber passed away yesterday.

Thanks for posting. It is things like this that prove there is humanity still out there. The world is not cold, crass and unfeeling. I'm glad Mr. Webber could attend the game. :yeah:

[RickC Sniper]

My picks

Denver - Manning has beaten the Ravens 9 times in a row
Packers - tough call here
Atlanta - might be the most entertaining game of the group
Patriots

[AVGWarhawk]

My picks

Denver - Manning has beaten the Ravens 9 times in a row


All the more reason the Ravens will win. Plus I think that was with the Colts. Different team now.

I'm biased of course. :D

[RickC Sniper]

All the more reason the Ravens will win. Plus I think that was with the Colts. Different team now.


I'm biased of course. :D

As am I :O::O:

EDIT: The last (9th) win by Manning over the Ravens was in a Bronco uniform.

[AVGWarhawk]

We are like two bias ply tires. Well then....see you at the games, sir! :stare:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/nestminder/RavensBroncos.jpg

[nikimcbee]

This is the video of that day. It's been a while since I saw something that brought tears to my eyes, but this did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uU1sK9HLpFo

Danny Webber passed away yesterday.

Great post Mookie:salute::up:

[mookiemookie]

Stuff like that makes it real hard to hate a division rival. The Colts organization has proved over and over again that they're very classy.

[geetrue]

A lot of money in Texas and New England according to this report.

you would think it was the super bowl or something :yep:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-01-10/patriots-vs-texans-point-spread-pick-nfl-playoff-lines-predictions-las-vegas-odd


Bob Scucci, sports book director for Coast Casinos, had taken twice as many bets on the New England Patriots
as he had on the Houston Texans.

However, the total money bet on Sunday’s second divisional playoff game was almost even.

“The public loves the Patriots, but the bigger money is on the Texans,”

[soopaman2]

I will not talk smack. It is a jinx. Goooooo Niners. Whoooooooos got it better than us? Nooooooobody!

All I will say is....Thank goodness Kaepernick knows how to take a slide when he runs!

*points and laughs at RG3*

It is great to have a qb who can run, but if he sucks at pocket passing then he will never suceed. Right Micheal Vick, Cam Newton?

What did I see? I may be off, but torn MCL and ACL? That knee is nonexistent. It is a mangled mess.

10-12 month recovery?

I could be off, I did not read this but heard secondhand.

I wonder if Subway will sign him on for another year, he can show that million dollar grin in his wheelchair.

[RickC Sniper]

I will not talk smack.
*points and laughs at RG3*

Right Micheal Vick, Cam Newton?

I wonder if Subway will sign him on for another year, he can show that million dollar grin in his wheelchair.

I would really hate to see what you consider smack talk ! :hmmm:

[soopaman2]

I would really hate to see what you consider smack talk ! :hmmm:


I think I more meant on talking crap about my my boys are going to plaster their boys, is all. I am refraining from anything other than guessing the over unders until my niners are knocked out. No jinxing!

RG3 is overhyped, he is a press invention, and simply pointing it out.

He got more hype than Luck or even Peyton Manning coming back from multiple neck surgeries. What about Colin Kaepernick of the 49ers who has come into his own this year, and Russell Wilson from the Hawks?

These guys have not had the hype this showboat moron has, yet achieved more than he ever will.

Sure RG3 can run. But he cannot pass in the pocket. Which is fine, Vick is the same way, and has gotten a good career. But unlike Vick, RG3 has the inability to slide, because he is a stat whore. A slide here and there might have reduced your run by 2 yards, but may have saved your knee.

Now his ego, has cost him a massive injury, Shanahan is to blame partly as well, he let him play messed up. Ego ego ego.

Edit: waste of a great athlete.

[RickC Sniper]

RG3 is overhyped, he is a press invention, and simply pointing it out.

He got more hype than Luck or even Peyton Manning coming back from multiple neck surgeries. What about Colin Kaepernick of the 49ers who has come into his own this year, and Russell Wilson from the Hawks?

These guys have not had the hype this showboat moron has, yet achieved more than he ever will.

Sure RG3 can run. But he cannot pass in the pocket. Which is fine, Vick is the same way, and has gotten a good career. But unlike Vick, RG3 has the inability to slide, because he is a stat whore.

You are just repeating yourself, and it is still talking smack if you are dissing other teams\players.

No harm in a little smack talk but you seem to loathe certain people.

Perhaps RG3 is simply a rookie and has things to learn.
And......he is not responsible for the media circus.

CK and Russel Wilson are actually fortunate to play where they are which helps them avoid that circus. If you like them as much s you say don't wish it on them, as you do them no favors.

[Takeda Shingen]

Kaepernick has got a long way to go before you can even talk about him being a Vick-level player, let alone one of the all time greats like Peyton Manning. He's started in what, 8 games? Never played in a playoff game. Talk to me in 10 years.

Furthermore, I totally agree with Rick. RG3's a really good player. He's a rookie, which means that he is still a developing player, but his future looks bright. No reason to hate on him like that.

[soopaman2]

Kaepernick has got a long way to go before you can even talk about him being a Vick-level player, let alone one of the all time greats like Peyton Manning. He's started in what, 8 games? Never played in a playoff game. Talk to me in 10 years.

Furthermore, I totally agree with Rick. RG3's a really good player. He's a rookie, which means that he is still a developing player, but his future looks bright. No reason to hate on him like that.


My only worry is the extent of that knee injury. It is not a simple acl tear, it is an acl and an lcl tear.

He may have ruined his own career. But all the blame does not lie on him.

Mike Shanahan played him hurt, and may have cost a great athlete his future. Perhaps smoking RG3 was wrong, ok, but a slide here and there...Man... For real?

So Takeda, why do I have to shut up about Kaepernick for 10 years, but you spout utter flowers and sunshine for rookie RG3?

It's Kaepernicks second year. Rg3 is a rookie.

One is in a wheelchair, the other plays the packers at home.

Just wondering?

So my guy needs 10 years RG3 is black Jesus?

[RickC Sniper]

Soops, I seem to recall you singing CK's praises like he was the second coming when he took over at QB, only to call for benching him two weeks later after that boneheaded play he made in his own endzone costing the 49ers that game.

You wanted Smith back at QB.......only to flip flop again after a game or two. You recall that, right?

Anybody can be a one season wonder. We all just need to wait to see how CK's career plays out. He just might be the next Aaron Rodgers.....we just don't know that yet.

You know, a blown out knee can happen to anybody. You blame RG3's misfortune on him and his coach, when it was just a misfortune which happens in football.

Ever heard of Adrian Peterson? His knee got blown up one year ago. Let's hear some smack on him and his coach...surely there is an opportunity to blame someone there too, right?

I hope RG3 can recover and play ball again. He is a good talent and it is fun to watch him play.
Why dump on him so hard??????????

If he had been fortunate enough to play for the 49ers instead of the Redskins he may not have HAD to run so much.

[Takeda Shingen]

My only worry is the extent of that knee injury. It is not a simple acl tear, it is an acl and an lcl tear.

Yep, it's a bad one. That happens to a lot of running quarterbacks; they just don't know when to stop fighting for the yards and slide. Vick didn't know for years. In fact, it wasn't until after prison that he started sliding well. Trust me, I know; all the talk in Philly was about if he knew when to slide when McNabb got hurt.

He may have ruined his own career. But all the blame does not lie on him.

I don't know about ruining his career, but he will have to adjust his play style when he returns.

Mike Shanahan played him hurt, and may have cost a great athlete his future. Perhaps smoking RG3 was wrong, ok, but a slide here and there...Man... For real?

Like I said, it's part of the learning process for this type of quarterback. And this is from a guy that spent the last 14 seasons watching nothing but runners, and grew up watching the prototype running QB.

http://www.sportshalloffame.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/randall-1.jpg

So Takeda, why do I have to shut up about Kaepernick for 10 years, but you spout utter flowers and sunshine for rookie RG3?

It's Kaepernicks second year. Rg3 is a rookie.

One is in a wheelchair, the other plays the packers at home.

Just wondering?

So my guy needs 10 years RG3 is black Jesus?

Now, this is the problem that you and I have been having. You've got to stop putting words in people's mouths. I didn't tell you to shut up. I said that you cannot compare Kaepernick to any of those players. Like it not RG3, while still a rookie, has more starting experience that Kaepernick. He doesn't even have a full season. Never took a snap as a starter in a playoff game either. There is still a lot of time in seeing if either of those players will be starting in a few seasons. After all, Gus Ferotte looked pretty good for awhile too. So, the jury's still out, and way out, on both of them.

Football is a dangerous game. Kaepernick could be in a wheelchair on Monday for all anyone knows; players get seriously hurt all the time. I certainly wouldn't subscribe to the idea that injury is failure.

[soopaman2]

I am so glad you all are used to my jerkoffery.

Too patient with me at times. I would have brigged me 2 months after I got here!:D

Rick my flipping on Kaepernick was documented. I saw some of the crap he pulled in New Orleans, and he kinda scared me.

I was wrong, but I was also a fan.

I trust Jim Harbaughs decisions, seeing how he turned a joke Smith into a viable playoff winning qb.

He drafted Kaepernick, and this change was inevitable.


I disagreed with putting out Smith due to injury, rather than performance.

Smith was 5th in the league at qb when pulled. Kaep has done a great job, even with his rookie mistakes.. He is rattled by crowd noise, my biggest peeve.

RG3? My criticisms? Extend partly to the coach, he was played hurt. I can be harsh, but when you put yourself in the highlight, then try to live up to that hype, rather than just playing football, then it opens yourself up for trouble.

This guy had 3 subway commercials on the air before he even took an NFL snap, that was my point on him buying into his own hype.
So how about the real rookie QB, Andrew Luck! What a year he's having!


edit: Learn to slide RG3. Put your team above personal stats.

[RickC Sniper]

This guy had 3 subway commercials on the air before he even took an NFL snap, that was my point on him buying into his own hype.

That is just business, and proves he has a good agent and nothing more. It has nothing to do with him as a player and I find it odd that it bothers you.

The East coast press created the hype, and nobody else. Same as Tebow....the press couldn't write enough about him but how or rather why do you blame the guy for it?

[Takeda Shingen]

edit: Learn to slide RG3. Put your team above personal stats.

Is Peyton Manning's passing game about personal glory and statistics over the benefit for the team? Were Barry Sanders' amazing rushing feats about personal glory? Of course not; they were about getting that extra yard and moving that ball forward. Same as any running QB, RG3 included. You don't slide because you want to fight for every single yard for your team. You learn the hard way that there are times when you can't do that. Personal vanity plays no part.

[RickC Sniper]

Rick my flipping on Kaepernick was documented. I saw some of the crap he pulled in New Orleans, and he kinda scared me.

I was wrong, but I was also a fan.



Bingo. I know you are a fan and passionate about the 49ers. I like that about you.

But the attacks on other team's players .....as harsh as you have I find disturbing and fail to understand it. In what way does your dissing RG3 elevate CK or Wilson??????

[RickC Sniper]

Is Peyton Manning's passing game about personal glory and statistics over the benefit for the team? Were Barry Sanders' amazing rushing feats about personal glory? Of course not; they were about getting that extra yard and moving that ball forward. Same as any running QB, RG3 included. You don't slide because you want to fight for every single yard for your team. You learn the hard way that there are times when you can't do that. Personal vanity plays no part.

Good point. It took Adrian Peterson 4 years to learn to run out of bounds instead of taking insane bodily punishment for an extra 2-3 yards that did not matter. He had to actually be coached into playing smarter so his career would last a little longer.

RG3 is a bright kid and if he recovers from this injury he'll learn at some point when it is needed to take the punishment and when it just isn't necessary.

[soopaman2]

Bingo. I know you are a fan and passionate about the 49ers. I like that about you.

But the attacks on other team's players .....as harsh as you have I find disturbing and fail to understand it. In what way does your dissing RG3 elevate CK or Wilson??????


I found it!

Mike Shanahan, coach of the Redskins, served under George Siefert of the world champion 1994 superbowl champs, Steve young, Jerry Rice, ahhhh greatness! He left my niners, and we finished under .500 since then.
All jokes aside. I was a bit angered by RG3s hype, then watching him play, and seeing how good he was, was disgusted by how reckless he is!

I have a way about me, I feel his talent is being wasted, which is why I advocate he slide more.

I never said Robert Griffin the three sucked, quite contrary, he is great, he could be greater, heck even could be the greatest, he has a cannon of an arm, I watched him air out the Giants with ease.

He is too reckless, maybe my mocking post was my way of saying "I told ya so"

I could have stated it better, and more respectful, yeah, but....I am just a terd, and it is not intentional.

As I said before. I would have brigged me 2 months after joining :D

I am hard to live with, and kudos to you all for living with me.:up:

[Takeda Shingen]

Good point. It took Adrian Peterson 4 years to learn to run out of bounds instead of taking insane bodily punishment for an extra 2-3 yards that did not matter. He had to actually be coached into playing smarter so his career would last a little longer.

RG3 is a bright kid and if he recovers from this injury he'll learn at some point when it is needed to take the punishment and when it just isn't necessary.

Oh yeah. That happens to a lot of players. Unfortunately it's usually an injury that forces them to wise up.

As I said before. I would have brigged me 2 months after joining :D

I am hard to live with, and kudos to you all for living with me.:up:

C'mon man, don't talk like that. You aren't anywhere close to breaking the rules, so stop saying it all the time. I mean, if you really want to go to the brig I can make that happen for you, but at this time it wouldn't be for your behavior, but by your own request. :D

[soopaman2]

C'mon man, don't talk like that. You aren't anywhere close to breaking the rules, so stop saying it all the time. I mean, if you really want to go to the brig I can make that happen for you, but at this time it wouldn't be for your behavior, but by your own request. :D

Nah, just my way of saying that I know I can be a handful at times!

I mean it in a playful way. Kinda calling myself an (pardon this, sorry) a-hole:D

Which if you read my posts, well...Uhh I am ;)

*big wet Bugs Bunny smooch*

[soopaman2]

The over/under which is all I will touch until the Superbowl is as follows.

Baltimore (getting 10) vs Denver. Ray Lewis last game? we shall see!
O/U 46 points.

My pick is under. I see a defensive brawl.

Seachickens getting 2.5 points over Atlanta with an under/over or 45.5.

I pick over, 2 teams that will have fun scoring on one another.

Texans (getting 9.5 points) on NE, hard to bet against NE even getting so many points, Brady is a beast.

The O/U is 47.5 points. Under IMHO. This O/U is too generous, unless the pundits who come up with this crap thinks Brady will rock them for 5 plus TDS. Texans cannot score enough to justify a 47 point over/under.

I save the team I got interest in for last.

Only to make it easier for you to quote I told ya so's later on :O:

GB (getting 3) at the Niners. O/U is 45.

Now This will be over. Both teams can score.

The only kink in this would be the Niner defense clamping down, which I do not see. I see one team in the 30s, and the other in the 20s. Exceeding the O/U number easily.

Now I kinda put money on these over/ under picks, so if I am wrong, I lose a few bucks, as well as get made fun of by you guys. Double jeopardy!:rock:

[AVGWarhawk]

RAVENS!



What a battle! :yeah:



http://espn.go.com/photo/2012/1203/nfl_a_rrice_jh_600.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Wow, I wonder if the Broncos regret running out the clock at the end of the game, with two TOs left... ? :huh:

[AVGWarhawk]

Taking the knee could have been costly. Interceptions cost a heck of a lot more. I love Manning as person and QB. It was his to win. It was his to lose. The better part of luck prevailed for the Ravens. BTW, the commentators (Dierdorf) are complete idiots. :down:

I could watch Ray Rice play all day.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Huge win, congrats :yep:

[Takeda Shingen]

Denver v Baltimore was a great game. Looks like Green Bay v San Fran is setting up to be a real shootout too.

[geetrue]

49ers 21 vs Packers 21 tied with 2:33 left in first half

could it be a Baltimore/San Francisco game Feb 3rd?

I'm hoping for a Seattle/Packers replay game with better officals
instead :yep:

[RickC Sniper]

Wow, I wonder if the Broncos regret running out the clock at the end of the game, with two TOs left... ? :huh:

The Broncos went conservative right after they scored to go up 7 for that last time. It was stupid, as their best drives of the day happened when they went to an up-tempo offense. I certainly think that was a mistake.

I hated the refs in that game as they took way to long too often and that interfered with both teams.

Let me congratulate the Ravens and say that they really deserved this win.
Champ Bailey.........overrated overrated overrated. The Denver secondary can all be blamed for poor play today.

[nikimcbee]

http://www.freethesportsman.com/_Media/discount-double-check_med.png

Old Milwaukee is on da house!:haha:

Well, now GB can focus on what is important; shooting State Farm commercials!:har:

I need the Green Bay bar hangovercam.:haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Breaker one niner. Forty Niners advance. Looked like a wild game.

[soopaman2]

Kaepernick breaks Vicks playoff record for rushing yards by a QB in a playoff game.

181 yards rushing...From a QB...

The 267 yards passing helped.

This kid is good.

He threw the pick six early, but brushed it off next drive, and drove down the field.

The score is not representative of how one sided this game was.

What a shocker with the Baltimore Ravens?

My cousin remarked that "it is sad to see those neck surgeries didn't fix his ability to choke in the playoffs."


Earlier in the year I kinda thought it would be cool to have a Jim Vs John Harbaugh super bowl.

It could happen.:doh:

But Ravens have to go into NE and perform, tough game.

[August]

But Ravens have to go into NE and perform, tough game.

We gotta beat the Texans first and I don't think it's going to be as easy this time...

[AVGWarhawk]

Kaepernick will not have the same performance next week. His wanting to run all the time will be defended against.

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://www.freethesportsman.com/_Media/discount-double-check_med.png

I need the Green Bay bar hangovercam.:haha:

Did we win, did we win :()1:.....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXItGlifMvQwmMwuo-VT_q_bzjzlOLqrcAhn9c6QDirr-sx8lFM1ItFE0m

****, guess not :dead:

Congrats to the Niners, we did nothing to stop Kaepernick :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

There was no stopping him. The Packers were not ready for that type of game play and when they caught on they did not know how to defend against it. I don't see him running those numbers again. Next game he will be blitzed all day.

[ReallyDedPoet]

There was no stopping him. The Packers were not ready for that type of game play and when they caught on they did not know how to defend against it. I don't see him running those numbers again. Next game he will be blitzed all day.

I was really surprised to be honest. It seems they were totally caught off guard, which should not have been the case. Plus they really shut down AP last week which I felt was a good omen for this week.

[Takeda Shingen]

I have Atlanta picked to win the whole thing for our office pool, so we'll see what happens.

[August]

Good game Houston.

Bring on the Ravens!

[AVGWarhawk]

I was really surprised to be honest. It seems they were totally caught off guard, which should not have been the case. Plus they really shut down AP last week which I felt was a good omen for this week.

Not many QB go for the run like Keapernick. In fact, he looked like he was waiting for it on every play. That is ok. The next game they will have his number and will be dialing it for 4 quarters.

[AVGWarhawk]

Good game Houston.

Bring on the Ravens!

Good game Houston? The Pats were toying with them. Like most teams. :haha: That Brady is a great QB and he is surrounded by a great squad of receivers. Brady's situational awarness is unmatched. Yeah, see you next week. This time we have a kicker that can find the up rights. :D

[ReallyDedPoet]

Good game Houston? The Pats were toying with them. Like most teams. :haha: That Brady is a great QB and he is surrounded by a great squad of receivers. Brady's situational awarness is unmatched. Yeah, see you next week. This time we have a kicker that can find the up rights. :D

The key is consistently getting in Brady's grill, be it disrupting, hurrying-up or sacking him. Easier said than done though as he adapts so well to what comes his way :yep:

[TarJak]

WTF?
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/forget-tebowing-now-theres-kaepernicking-20130114-2cpb4.html

[AVGWarhawk]

WTF?
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/forget-tebowing-now-theres-kaepernicking-20130114-2cpb4.html

I guess fans are starved for entertainment. This is the best they got. :haha:

[BossMark]

That Tom Brady some player isn't he :yep:

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have Atlanta picked to win the whole thing for our office pool, so we'll see what happens.

Defense I think will be the difference in this one. So I give the edge to San Francisco. Should be a good one though. Nice overview here: Here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013012001/2012/POST20/49ers@falcons#menu=gameinfo&tab=analyze)

[AVGWarhawk]

That Tom Brady some player isn't he :yep:

He is relentless.

But not invincible

http://www.betterlivingthroughbeowulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/brady.jpg


The Raven's kicker won it for them last season! :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

The key is consistently getting in Brady's grill, be it disrupting, hurrying-up or sacking him. Easier said than done though as he adapts so well to what comes his way :yep:

Need to protect against the short throws. Plus, once caught by the receiver, protect against their running. They were shucking and jiving against the Texan yesterday gaining yards at will.

[Takeda Shingen]

A quarterback, regardless of individual quality, is only as good as his O-line, and New England has a very good one.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2012&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Defense I think will be the difference in this one. So I give the edge to San Francisco. Should be a good one though. Nice overview here: Here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013012001/2012/POST20/49ers@falcons#menu=gameinfo&tab=analyze)

It wasn't last Saturday, and I don't think it will be this time either.

[mookiemookie]

Tom Brady is the best answer to the old "defense wins championships" canard. If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.

[AVGWarhawk]

If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.


I think everyone would take that! :haha:

[Takeda Shingen]

Tom Brady is the best answer to the old "defense wins championships" canard. If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.

That kind of play is becoming forced, as you don't see a whole lot of low-scoring affairs like you used to. The number of games where the losing team scores 20 or more points has increased dramatically within the last decade. Whether that is due to an increase of 'wide open' offensive play, a decline in defensive aptitude or a combination of both I don't know. What I do know is that when I started playing fantasy football I valued my team defense, and that payed dividends. This past season, I drafted my defense in the 15th round and still finished 3rd out of 16.

Bottom line; I agree. Defense doesn't matter like it used to.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Much of what you are saying Tak I think relates to the NFL becoming much more of a passing game. The traditional run game has been on the decline for awhile. With many teams it is more used to set up play action schemes.

[AVGWarhawk]

Much of what you are saying Tak I think relates to the NFL becoming much more of a passing game. The traditional run game has been on the decline for awhile. With many teams it is more used to set up play action schemes.


Ray Rice begs to differ. :haha::O:

[Takeda Shingen]

I don't know, Ray Rice only had four games during the 2012 regular season where he rushed for over 100 yards and only six games where he had 20 or more carries, which used to be the gold standard for a team relying on the run. Even good RBs don't seem to be used like they were. Granted, he's still a 1000-yard rusher, but barely.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/11289/ray-rice

It would seem that there is something to RDP's statement.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ray Rice begs to differ. :haha::O:

No question the run is still an important part of the game, you could never not have it, it keeps the defense guessing and having to account for it, but the run has become secondary.

[AVGWarhawk]

No question the run is still an important part of the game, you could never not have it, it keeps the defense guessing and having to account for it, but the run has become secondary.

It has to become primary for the Ravens. The stats for Flacco say otherwise but watching Joe waffle the ball time and time again one begins to wonder just how we win a majority of the time. :hmmm::haha:

[ReallyDedPoet]

It has to become primary for the Ravens. The stats for Flacco say otherwise but watching Joe waffle the ball time and time again one begins to wonder just how we win a majority of the time. :hmmm::haha:

I agree on that one.

But coming back to Joe, he seems to just to do enough to win. To this point that has been his MO :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

But coming back to Joe, he seems to just to do enough to win. To this point that has been his MO :yep:

:haha: It seems to be working for him.

[nikimcbee]

Ray Rice begs to differ. :haha::O:

Ask the Packers about run defense.:haha: They didn't get that e-mail.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ask the Packers about run defense.:haha: They didn't get that e-mail.

:haha:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ask the Packers about run defense.:haha: They didn't get that e-mail.

True, we used it all up shutting down AP the week before :O:

[ReallyDedPoet]

This weeks picks:

- New England
- San Francisco

[nikimcbee]

This weeks picks:

- New England
- San Francisco

:agree:

[geetrue]

This weeks picks:

- New England
- San Francisco

:agree:

:up: Yep! That's the way I see it too :yep:

[soopaman2]

Kaepernick will not have the same performance next week. His wanting to run all the time will be defended against.


As someone who watched him every game, I have to correct this.

He does not look to run all the time like RG3 or Cam Newton.

He is a great pocket passer. He can go deep, he can lead a reciever, he is no slouch. He slides, and runs out of bounds, rather than taking stupid hits. He threw it away when he could have ran for 2 yards. He is smart.
The plays he got his run yards last week were from read options, called by coaches, using the qbs judgement as he sees the play unfold. In other words, the O-line pulls for a run, while the recievers blow deep, it is lethal against man to man defenses.

Now as a counter they can play zone, then Colin kills them with his strong arm, and great accuracy and reciever leading ability.

Not saying you know nothing about football sir, just saying this kid is not a flash in the pan youngin' like Christian Ponder, or RG3.

This kid is the complete package.

To see a guy, second year execute read plays like this is pretty darn good.

I am sure they will have a defense, but will they stop it?

He averages like 10 more pass attempts than Smith, and doubled their point output.

Alex Smith would have lost the regular season games against the Pats.

[AVGWarhawk]

As a human being soopaman I need to correct this. I simply stated his running performance will be countered at the next game. I don't see him running the ball 181 yards. I'm not sure how you amassed half of a page in accolades for QB of the 49'ers from my statement. Sheesh. :88)

[soopaman2]

As a human being soopaman I need to correct this. I simply stated his running performance will be countered at the next game. I don't see him running the ball 181 yards. I'm not sure how you amassed half of a page in accolades for QB of the 49'ers from my statement. Sheesh. :88)

I was just simply stating what I saw from all the games I watched him in, compared to the ESPN highlights of one game you saw.

:salute:

You judged him one one game, I judged him on a half a season.
(edit, I was simply stating what sets him apart from the stereotypical "running QB")

You are still my favorite plane, well next to the A-10 Warthog, please don't beat me too bad! :P

[AVGWarhawk]

I judged no one. I stated his running like he did will be defended against. Get it right. Read my posts concerning his running. But you may read into anything you like.

[soopaman2]

I judged no one. I stated his running like he did will be defended against. Get it right. Read my posts concerning his running. But you may read into anything you like.


Thats fine. But what about his arm?:D He did throw for 260 plus that game too.

Not trying to break your balls, but you went out of your way to minimize him, when you seen very little of him. I was simply telling you what I saw of him.

I admit he will not match 180 plus yards rushing, but the fact he did that should be a warning to all. I, in my longwinded way above, was telling you he can hurl the ball too.

Lets just go back to talking about RG3 and the Manning brothers, ya know real quarterbacks, with respect. (But sitting home right now)

[RickC Sniper]

Not saying you know nothing about football sir, just saying this kid is not a flash in the pan youngin' like Christian Ponder, or RG3.


Lets just go back to talking about RG3 and the Manning brothers, ya know real quarterbacks, with respect. (But sitting home right now)

Make up your mind. Is RG3 a flash in the pan or a real QB?

Also, in order to be a flash in the pan, there had to be a "flash" which I've never seen from Ponder. :D

[Takeda Shingen]

The plays he got his run yards last week were from read options, called by coaches, using the qbs judgement as he sees the play unfold.

The read option is a staple of running QB play. Atlanta used it with Vick. Philly used it with Vick. Washington uses it with RG3. San Fran uses it with Kaepernick.

Speaking of Kaepernick, he was 17/31 for 267 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT. He rushed 16 times for 181 yards and 2 TDs. While the passing stats are decent, it's clear that we're not talking Peyton Manning here. What broke the game was the run. As much as you may not want to admit it, the 49ers have a runner in Kaepernick. Both he and RG3 are very much in the Vick mold. A pocket passer he is not.

[soopaman2]

Make up your mind. Is RG3 a flash in the pan or a real QB?

Also, in order to be a flash in the pan, there had to be a "flash" which I've never seen from Ponder. :D

I was being sarcastic with RG3, I thought I beat on him enough here for people to know I think he is a joke.

As For Ponder, he did great this year with a not so good team. He also caught alot of hype, and faded fast.

The read option is a staple of running QB play. Atlanta used it with Vick. Philly used it with Vick. Washington uses it with RG3. San Fran uses it with Kaepernick.

Speaking of Kaepernick, he was 17/31 for 267 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT. He rushed 16 times for 181 yards and 2 TDs. While the passing stats are decent, it's clear that we're not talking Peyton Manning here. What broke the game was the run. As much as you may not want to admit it, the 49ers have a runner in Kaepernick. Both he and RG3 are very much in the Vick mold. A pocket passer he is not.

Did you see how he answered that INT, that came second play of the game? He drove down the field.
The guy got a poise, that Alex Smith does not, plus he can actually go for the long ball.

Crap on him all you want, but eventually he will earn his respect. Peyton caught this treatment, so did Brady after they switched from Bledsoe, Steve Young did too upon replacing Joe Montana. Haters gonna hate.

I will still love my team, and the great things they have done.:sunny:

[Takeda Shingen]

Did you see how he answered that INT, that came second play of the game? He drove down the field.
The guy got a poise, that Alex Smith does not, plus he can actually go for the long ball.

Crap on him all you want, but eventually he will earn his respect.

Crap on him? I said the guy makes plays with his feet. He does. Why do you have such a hang up with that? Vick is and was a great quarterback. Defenses had to create entire schemes just to counter him. How is comparing Kaepernick to a player like that crapping on him?

Peyton caught this treatment, so did Brady after they switched from Bledsoe, Steve Young did too upon replacing Joe Montana. Haters gonna hate.

He had a good game, but placing Kaepernick among four of the top ten quarterbacks of history is, to say the least, premature.

I will still love my team, and the great things they have done.:sunny:

Dude, it's just football. Chill.

[RickC Sniper]

Calling him a running QB is not crapping on him.

You have a large chip on your shoulder. Quit reading things that are not there.

CK is having a great season and will be a great QB for as long as he remains healthy. I see a very bright and long career for him...as long as he stays healthy.

.......now go ahead and misread and pick on that statement.

[soopaman2]

Calling him a running QB is not crapping on him.

You have a large chip on your shoulder. Quit reading things that are not there.

CK is having a great season and will be a great QB for as long as he remains healthy. I see a very bright and long career for him...as long as he stays healthy.

.......now go ahead and misread and pick on that statement.


Your mean! I am fighting back tears as I type.:wah:

[soopaman2]

In all seriousness.

New England, San Fran, Ravens, Falcons fans, sound off. I am kinda passionate to the point of annoyance, sorry.

Alot of folks here with "no horse in the race" where are the folks that have one?

Predictions, I am interested in over unders, as I crapped the bed last week on my picks. Freaking Ravens! 38 points, really?

I gotta get these things in like soon, and I am letting subsim pick them for me, Here goes.


Sf at Atlanta. Atlanta getting 4 points. Over/under of 49 points.

Over on the score, with SF winning despite points against. Will be a close game IMHO

Baltimore at NE, Ravens getting 9 points, wow!
With an over/under of 51.5

Kinda an ambitious line, and O/U IMHO. NE will win,despite the spread, but total points will go UNDER the 51.5

Disclaimer: Just the ramblings of an NFL fan, the above statement is not intended to encourage betting on any sport based on some asshat you read on the internets. Any losses you may incur upon betting your house on above facts will result in a hearty HA HA from me, and anyone else.

[ReallyDedPoet]

In all seriousness.

New England, San Fran, Ravens, Falcons fans, sound off. I am kinda passionate to the point of annoyance, sorry.

Alot of folks here with "no horse in the race" where are the folks that have one?



Though the Pack are out it's still fun to chime in.

As far as others with teams in, I think many are low key and will let there teams do the talking this weekend.

[soopaman2]

I actually saw a stat, that since the AFL-NFL Merger, no same last 4 playoff teams have ever been the same. Go through the years, and look at the last 4 teams standing, they have never been the same since the merger.

NFL is one of the most dynamic sports.

I am a Yankee fan, and am bored by them, oh ho hum they won again. Or in recent years, they crapped the bed again.:O:

But football boils my blood. Even if my team was not in it, I can enjoy the game still, find my bad guy to root against.


Hands down, Americas sport.

Considering the lack of Hockey, baseball and Basketball threads.

[RickC Sniper]

I actually saw a stat, that since the AFL-NFL Merger, no same last 4 playoff teams have ever been the same. Go through the years, and look at the last 4 teams standing, they have never been the same since the merger.

NFL is one of the most dynamic sports.


Free agency makes it tough to return the next year because you cannot hold together the same group of guys.

Denver's loss last Sunday was especially hard, as because of the great run they had they are losing coaches. Which players stay or go remains to be seen, but also having to replace offensive and defensive coordinators is tough.

[soopaman2]

Free agency makes it tough to return the next year because you cannot hold together the same group of guys.

Denver's loss last Sunday was especially hard, as because of the great run they had they are losing coaches. Which players stay or go remains to be seen, but also having to replace offensive and defensive coordinators is tough.


All that aside, you got Peyton Manning.

If your GM is truly commited, he will get the tools needed. Maybe Revis who the Jets may not resign. Great DB.

Denver was only a few pieces away. They made Tebow look like gold last year.

It is my opinion that Denvers lack of running game makes them easy to defenses. Not trashing your boys now, just saying it makes it harder on Peyton if he has to carry the entire load.

You guys got Manning, It could be worse.

I would have killed for him, he almost was a Niner. But I like what we got, no harm, no foul, glad he is not in my division:O::haha:

Now, like in any sport, it is up to the GM to bring in the right pieces.

[RickC Sniper]

Lost #1 and then #2 running backs to injury. In the earlier meeting with Baltimore Denver had more than double their yards rushing. They certainly had a ground game before the injuries.
Tough to replace coaches. And commitment can only go as far as the salary cap.

I really think this was their shot. They will win their division next year but will do it with a weaker team than this one.

I salute Baltimore for getting the job done. They were the better team this time around.

[mookiemookie]

Bad lip reading the NFL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE

Everyone can rest easy now that Tom Brady has found Fido.

[AVGWarhawk]

Bad lip reading the NFL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE

Everyone can rest easy now that Tom Brady has found Fido.


That is hilarious! :haha:

[mookiemookie]

Who knew Adrian Petersen was that big of an orange peanut fan?

[RickC Sniper]

Bad lip reading the NFL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE

Everyone can rest easy now that Tom Brady has found Fido.

Awesome!

[August]

Bad lip reading the NFL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE

Everyone can rest easy now that Tom Brady has found Fido.

That was wicked funny. Thanks for sharing it Mookie.

[Takeda Shingen]

Chip Kelly...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles

Let's see where this goes. Nick Fowles is a pocket passer, which makes him a poor fit for the type of offense that Kelly runs. I guess that means that we need yet another new quarterback. Should be an interesting off season.

[RickC Sniper]

Chip Kelly...



I predict that 4th overall pick will be a QB.

[Takeda Shingen]

I predict that 4th overall pick will be a QB.

I hope not. Philly needs O-line. Without that, they could have Johnny U back there and he'd still get chewed up.

[RickC Sniper]

Well, sure they have lots of needs, but doesn't it come down to a QB or relying on the ever fragile Vick?

By your comment I guess you would roll the dice with Vick? Difficult decision imo.

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, sure they have lots of needs, but doesn't it come down to a QB or relying on the ever fragile Vick?

By your comment I guess you would roll the dice with Vick? Difficult decision imo.

No, I think Vick is gone. What I think would happen is that Nick Foles would flounder in the role for a season and then depart as well.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Yeah, Vick does not want to restructure his contract so I would agree there. They need to turn the page on him.

[Takeda Shingen]

Yeah, Vick does not want to restructure his contract so I would agree there. They need to turn the page on him.

There's no way that the Eagles are going to pay 16 million just to retain him. So, yeah, he'll be starting somewhere else next season.

[mookiemookie]

It'll never in a million years happen, but what if you had Vick on the Texans? That would be intriguing.

We like to play the short yardage game, and an athletic QB who could pick up 4 to 5 yards a clip on the ground would work. Vick's got accuracy issues, but we play the underneath routes with Owen Daniels a lot, we are built around the play action. Why not throw an option in there? Man, imagine if you were a defense not knowing if the run was going to come from Foster or Vick. And his fragility may not be an issue as Schaub could step right in as a backup.

Never gonna happen, but it'd still be interesting.

[soopaman2]

Perhaps Takeda, a valid choice could be Alex Smith?

He is getting paid too much to sit on the bench, and barring some kind of catastrophic career ending injury, I do not see him as a Niner next year.

He is a real QB, a pocket passer. Just an opinion. I know it does not sound popular.

I also agree with your O-line assessment. They never let any kind of running game take off, to complement Vick, who can throw the pigskin a little bit. They also forced vick out of pocket alot. Not letting him flex his arm.

I hope you guys pick up in the future. The blubbering Giants fans will never shut up until the Eagles win the division, and stuff their filthy mouths with excrement for once.

I'm not saying I want to see the Eagles win. Just kick the living crap out of the Giants by 20 points, 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.

Now that is misery to a Giants fan.

[Takeda Shingen]

Perhaps Takeda, a valid choice could be Alex Smith?

He is getting paid too much to sit on the bench, and barring some kind of catastrophic career ending injury, I do not see him as a Niner next year.

He is a real QB, a pocket passer. Just an opinion. I know it does not sound popular.

I also agree with your O-line assessment. They never let any kind of running game take off, to complement Vick, who can throw the pigskin a little bit. They also forced vick out of pocket alot. Not letting him flex his arm.

I hope you guys pick up in the future. The blubbering Giants fans will never shut up until the Eagles win the division, and stuff their filthy mouths with excrement for once.

I'm not saying I want to see the Eagles win. Just kick the living crap out of the Giants by 20 points, 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.

Now that is misery to a Giants fan.

We have a pocket passer in Nick Foles, and he may develop into a very good one. The problem is that Chip Kelly's offense runs a lot of read options, which requires a running QB. Vick clearly won't be staying because the Eagles are not going to pay $16 million to retain a 33-year-old injury prone player when they are trying to rebuild, and Alex Smith wouldn't fit that mold any better than Nick Foles at this point. So, if Foles does develop into a decent QB it won't be here in Philly.

I suspect Rick may be right about the drafting of a QB in the first round, but I hope not.

[geetrue]

I have changed my mind about the Baltimore Ravens ... :yep:

I am watching the replay of their first game this year on Sept 23rd

Ravens 31 to New England 30

Then I remembered lst years AFC playoffs with Baltimore missing the field goal at the end.

Looks like a rematch made in heaven to me ...

Plus San Francisco and Baltimore with two brothers coaching in the Super Bowl :yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

It'll never in a million years happen, but what if you had Vick on the Texans? That would be intriguing.

We like to play the short yardage game, and an athletic QB who could pick up 4 to 5 yards a clip on the ground would work. Vick's got accuracy issues, but we play the underneath routes with Owen Daniels a lot, we are built around the play action. Why not throw an option in there? Man, imagine if you were a defense not knowing if the run was going to come from Foster or Vick. And his fragility may not be an issue as Schaub could step right in as a backup.

Never gonna happen, but it'd still be interesting.

Honestly, I think Vick's way too old to be a running QB. He's having a hard time staying healthy as it is. Texans need to play like hell for a couple seasons then go 0-16 in Manziel's senior year. :cool:

[nikimcbee]

then go 0-16 in Manziel's senior year. :cool:

:haha:

[soopaman2]

Could We have a ""Harbowl" ?

Or will I be whimpering in frustration at 7:00 EST when the first game ends?

Rgardless of the outcomes I am happy with what the 49ers showed me, they improved, and maybe even found a QB who could take us places. Maybe even elite.

My only fit of trash talk will be this...

Now Let us see how you play against a top tier defense, Atlanta.

You guys did not see much of those.

My prediction? Nah. I cannot make a feeling free prediction here, we Niner fans have a chip on our shoulders,after last year.

As for the AFC, cannot call it either.

I would like the Ravens to win, to play the Niners. If no Niners, I would like Ray Lewis to get one on the way out.


Outside of Kaepernick this is the same team that went 8-8,2 years ago.

Regardless of the outcome of todays game, I thank the players and staff of the 49ers for one hell of an exciting season!

[eddie]

Sad to say the Niners are looking like an 8 and 8 team today. But, its still early. Seahawks came back strong against Atlanta in the second half last week, so who knows!

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice job Niners! Tough game.

[August]

Not looking good for our boys... :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

Raven's defense frustrated Brady.

[AVGWarhawk]

Going to the bowl!

[August]

Going to the bowl!


I hope you guys win. For Ray.

[AVGWarhawk]

My neighborhood is going nuts! Where the hell did all the fireworks come from?

[CaptainMattJ.]

Niners are going to wipe the floor with the ravens.

[Onkel Neal]

I have changed my mind about the Baltimore Ravens ... :yep:

I am watching the replay of their first game this year on Sept 23rd

Ravens 31 to New England 30

Then I remembered lst years AFC playoffs with Baltimore missing the field goal at the end.

Looks like a rematch made in heaven to me ...

Plus San Francisco and Baltimore with two brothers coaching in the Super Bowl :yeah:

Good call!

[geetrue]

My neighborhood is going nuts! Where the hell did all the fireworks come from?

Those weren't fireworks ... they were semi-automatic weapons and side arms.

Looks like the 49ers are better at this playoff stuff tho ...

New England lost 4 points when they didn't call timeout at the end of the first half after that they were just plain out coached and out played.

Go 49ers ...

Don't forget the pro bowl is in hawaii this year next sunday late in the day too :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Niners are going to wipe the floor with the ravens.

It will be equally matched IMO. However I predict a Ravens win. You may keep the floor. :O:

[AVGWarhawk]

Those weren't fireworks ... they were semi-automatic weapons and side:

Sadly two weeks ago after a Ravens win a idiot decided to shoot his hand gun into the air. The bullet fell back to earth sticking a 10 year old in the head. She died a day later. Seriously tragic and senseless death. It is ruled a homicide but the responsible individual has not come forward.

[ReallyDedPoet]

It will be equally matched IMO. However I predict a Ravens win. You may keep the floor. :O:

Nice win last night. They are my pic for the Super Bowl.

[soopaman2]

Joe Buck didn't annoy me yesterday, he usually ruins games for me.

I thought for sure when the score was 17-0 that Joe would get out the hammer and start nailing Harbaughs choice on changing QBs earlier this year. You know, all the normal second guessing that come when you have to make a tough or controversial decision.

But he was nice, Troy Aikman is still boring.:D

I know poppa Jack Harbaugh is happy, if he is still around. (edit: He is)

Most dads would be honored to have one son in the Bowl, much less 2 of them coaching in the same one.

Grats to the Ravens and Ray Lewis. Was it any other team I would root for the Ravens, to send Ray out on a high note.

[AVGWarhawk]

My brother counted out the Niners at 17-0. I said to him two things, the Niners are still in it and there is plenty of football left. A lot of heart, soul and passion to win the game. And the Niners pulled it off. Great come from behind win. :up::up: Nice work!

As for the Ravens, defense was on the ball frustrating Brady. Joe Flacco found his arm, aim and confidence to win the game. As much as Joe gets beaten up for his performances week to week the guy is still standing at the end of the day. Joe was my MVP last week. Joe is my MVP this week. :yeah:

[soopaman2]

My brother counted out the Niners at 17-0. I said to him two things, the Niners are still in it and there is plenty of football left. A lot of heart, soul and passion to win the game. And the Niners pulled it off. Great come from behind win. :up::up: Nice work!

As for the Ravens, defense was on the ball frustrating Brady. Joe Flacco found his arm, aim and confidence to win the game. As much as Joe gets beaten up for his performances week to week the guy is still standing at the end of the day. Joe was my MVP last week. Joe is my MVP this week. :yeah:


Flacco is the epitome of disrespect. He is not pretty, has no real outstanding trait as a qb, gets minimized, yet was good enough to bring his team to "HarBowl" 1

Grats, beating New England is no easy task.

At 17-0 down, with the way they caught everything, I would have counted them out too, but this Kaepernick kid., he's got it.

You know "it" when you see it. He was so feared to run, that the Falcons "D" spread out on the line, to choke out holes. It had an unintended result of leaving our tight end uncovered at times, and Gore, and James were pretty much able to rush at will.

Play actions were working, and most importantly, the damn kid slid, instead of risking it all for a few more yards.

HarBowl One!

Go Niners!:O:

I couldn't think of a finer opponent, or a more interesting sports story, than this Super Bowl.

[AVGWarhawk]

Flacco is the epitome of disrespect. He is not pretty, has no real outstanding trait as a qb, gets minimized, yet was good enough to bring his team to "HarBowl" 1

Grats, beating New England is no easy task.

Does it matter that a QB is pretty and has outstanding traits? Your second sentence would indicate it does not. :03:

Play actions were working, and most importantly, the damn kid slid, instead of risking it all for a few more yards.

So did Brady. Twice. Cost him a new set of downs both time. Possibly the game. For me, if you are going to run it, go for all you can. Kaepernick did two weeks ago and to good affect.

[soopaman2]

Does it matter that a QB is pretty and has outstanding traits? Your second sentence would indicate it does not. :03:



So did Brady. Twice. Cost him a new set of downs both time. Possibly the game. For me, if you are going to run it, go for all you can. Kaepernick did two weeks ago and to good affect.


To your first statment, does not matter at all. I had the same opinion of Alex Smith early season. Does he get the job done? He has so far.


To your second, I am looking at RG3 right now.
Took it too far at times, and cost him an injury.

Running QBs are rare, but they should always try to throw first. 2 weeks ago was just some kind of blatant exploitation of the defensive scheme, I do not expect it to work every week, Especially against a team ready for it.

Atlanta would not have allowed the same gameplan we used in GB, and the Ravens will most definitely will not allow it, being a vastly better defense.

Whoever wins the Bowl, it will be based on defense, and the arm. (IMHO, as always :))

[AVGWarhawk]

Kaepernick's running will be defended against. Suggs is always out for blood. Ray up the middle will assure pressure. Kaepernick keeps his cool under such pressure and get's it done. Young guy who wants to win. That's obvious...he is going to the Super Bowl. :salute: It should be fun. :D

[soopaman2]

[QUOTE=AVGWarhawk;1996611]Kaepernick's running will be defended against. Suggs is always out for blood. Ray up the middle will assure pressure. Kaepernick keeps his cool under such pressure and get's it done. Young guy who wants to win. That's obvious...he is going to the Super Bowl. :salute: It should be fun. :D[/QUOTE


I get a sense that me and you are the 2 happiest guys in the thread right now.:D:haha:

18 years I waited. Sheesh I was a teenager when I saw this last. (1995 SD VS SF.

Just a fair warning though. 5-0 in the big one. Destiny? Or a streak meant to be broken?

MAY THE BEST HARBAUGH WIN!:salute:

(I would love to be a fly on the wall, at their next family get together):D

[August]

I think our injuries finally caught up with us. Edelman, Gronk, Jones, Tabib, Love. Our D didn't make a single key play last night. Oh well. We'll be back next year.

[Onkel Neal]

I think this article (http://bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/gerry_callahan/2013/01/end_patriots_aura)sums up the Patriots pretty well. It was surprising, all those punts from inside enemy territory.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is a good article. My coworker is a Pats fan through and through. Even he has thrown in the towel on the Pats. A very upset young man who believes in the team. Brady is just awesome and Welker can not miss in his eyes. Belichick is the coaches coach. Today he completely melted down stating for years the team kicks butt in the regular season and completely fizzles in the playoffs. He was visibly upset and stated the 'dynasty' that never was is smoke and mirrors. His demeanor was one of little kid finding out Santa is not real.

Oh well, he may now come to the dark side. :D Were the players are considered thugs and violent. :stare: The fans are vicious dogs foaming at the mouth(some are :haha:). The team has now boundaries on or off the field no matter who is blowing the whistle.