older individual mods

[RickC Sniper]

Hello!

I reinstalled this game because my grandson took an interest in it. He is no where ready for the more difficult megamods so for now I'm running stock 1.5 for him with a few small mods and an environment mod.

Mods I cannot find for v1.5

Mini chrono
a metric nomograph for on the nav map.

All the old references I have found for these are for early versions of the game or download links are broken.

Any help finding these for v 1.5 would be appreciated.
.......Thanks

[iowa101]

I myself have had difficulty finding mods that where done over a year ago, sometimes the links put up by the mod owners themselves go dead because the modders either remove the files from where they uploaded or haven't been active for so long the accounts get closed. But saying that these guys usually keep a good list of past mods.

So in all fairness they should be able to help with your problem :salute:

[Marka Ragnos]

Metric Nomograph for V1.5:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=913

[RickC Sniper]

Thank you Marka :salute:

Now I just need the smaller stopwatch. The stock one is ridiculously large.

[Webster]

you might want to give my GFO mod a look, it tries to fix everything that needs fixing in the game without changing gameplay or dificulty and its designed to be mod friendly for mixing with other mods.

[RickC Sniper]

Already installed, Webster. I added that mod and dropped the environment mod. (all the environment mods conflict with it, correct?)
Many or most of those fixes are a necessity if you run the game out-of-the-box. Thank you for putting that package of mods together. :ping: It made it easy to get the game playable and fun without adding difficulty.

Still looking for a reduced size chrono though.:-?

[hotrod1525]

You might like to try TMO WTW - thats TMO with training wheels _ it is still difficult but the detroyers don't detect you so quickly

[Webster]

Already installed, Webster. I added that mod and dropped the environment mod. (all the environment mods conflict with it, correct?)
Many or most of those fixes are a necessity if you run the game out-of-the-box. Thank you for putting that package of mods together. :ping: It made it easy to get the game playable and fun without adding difficulty.

Still looking for a reduced size chrono though.:-?


as i recall the conflicts are only related to my smaller rain mod in it so you can use the environmental mods its just you will loose the smaller easier to see thru rain which i think looks more realistic. the stock rain gets like a fog you cant see thru which isnt the way real rain is. there is a real environments patch to restore GFO to get the fixed rain back so its ok to use real environments but i never did patches for Env 5.0 or PE4 or whatever the lasts versions were.

im going to dig around and see if i can find info on the chrono :06:


UPDATE: ok the Hamilton Chrono mod was made for v1.2 of the game and im not sure if it worked with 1.3 or 1.4 t all but i doubt it. the reason is it requires the menu_1024_768 file to be manually edited on several lines to resize and relocate the clock. this however isnt it because the clock hands are controlled and position completely seperate from the clock so they need to be repositioned to work correctly as well . Longam did this and released a working version for 1.5 but all the linksfor it are dead now. one major issue with this mod and i thing the reason it dissappeared is if you are going to use any mod that contains its own menu_1024_768 file then that means you have to go into that mod and make the changes yourself but Longam never listed how and where to make ALL of the changes. there was a post where he listed how to resize the clock but there was no info on how to relocate, resize, and reposition the clock needles.

the most help i could give you is here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149969

if you figure it out please upload it here at subsim and include the changes needed for manually adding it to your game since anyone using a large mod would need the instructions on how to do this

[DrBeast]

UPDATE: ok the Hamilton Chrono mod was made for v1.2 of the game and im not sure if it worked with 1.3 or 1.4 t all but i doubt it. the reason is it requires the menu_1024_768 file to be manually edited on several lines to resize and relocate the clock. this however isnt it because the clock hands are controlled and position completely seperate from the clock so they need to be repositioned to work correctly as well . Longam did this and released a working version for 1.5 but all the linksfor it are dead now. one major issue with this mod and i thing the reason it dissappeared is if you are going to use any mod that contains its own menu_1024_768 file then that means you have to go into that mod and make the changes yourself but Longam never listed how and where to make ALL of the changes. there was a post where he listed how to resize the clock but there was no info on how to relocate, resize, and reposition the clock needles.

the most help i could give you is here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149969

if you figure it out please upload it here at subsim and include the changes needed for manually adding it to your game since anyone using a large mod would need the instructions on how to do this

I think the wonky needles reported in that thread was the result of 1.5 looking for the needed files in data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga instead of the pre-1.5 data/menu/gui/clock.tga.

I've been using the smaller chrono mod for years - as a stand-alone version in 1.4, and as part of TMO in my recent 1.5 build. Here's what my menu_1024 file entries look like, give it a spin and see if it works for you:



[G29 I2]
Pos=412,0,312,300
Zone= 412 768 234 225 0 1 0x29000000 1.23 0 0x29020000 -1 0 -550 0

[G29 I3]
Zone= 566 596 3 3 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020006 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I4]
Zone= 562 686 9 138 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x2902000E -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I5]
Zone= 564 674 6 39 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.09 0x2902000F -0.5 0 0 0

[G29 I6]
Zone= 562 686 9 138 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020010 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I7]
Zone= 557 681 16.5 130.5 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020008 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I8]
Zone= 560 692 12 147 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020009 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I9]
Zone= 563 567 6 45 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -1 0x29020011 -0.5 1 -1 11

[G29 I10]
Zone= 564 567 7.5 46.5 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020002 -0.5 0.5 0 -7

[G29 I11]
Zone= 565 583 6 60 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020003 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I12]
Zone= 564 573 7.5 45 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020004 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I13]
Zone= 564 674 6 39 0 1 0x2902000F 0.5 -0.5 0x29020005 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I14]
Zone= 529 583 60 60 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.965 0x29020007 -0.5 1 1 0

[G29 I15]
Zone= 558 720 15 14 0 1 0x29020000 0.5 -0.16 0x2902000D -0.5 0 0 0

[G29 I16]
Zone= 470 692 147 147 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 -0.505 0x2902000C -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G29 I17]
Zone= 450 702 177 176 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 -1 0x2902000B -0.5 1 0 0

[G29 I18]
Zone= 450 722 177 191 0 1 0x29020000 0.5 -1 0x29020001 -0.5 1 0 0

[G29 I19]
Zone= 544 758 36 27 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 0 0x2902000A -0.5 1 0 0

[RickC Sniper]

I found those changes in this post. They are the same, right?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=831357&postcount=10

......But they are not working for me after manually adding the lines.

Does anyone have Jimimadrid's JTeX editor to make this an easier process?

All links to it I have found are broken.

[RickC Sniper]

You might like to try TMO WTW - thats TMO with training wheels _ it is still difficult but the detroyers don't detect you so quickly


I reinstalled this game for my grandson.
He is 13 yrs old and so far a bit overwhelmed with it, but learning.

I have eliminated all enemy aircraft so he can for now just learn to navigate and make good tactical decisions regarding approaching ships.
next......... manual TDC
.......then, if he is still interested ramp up the realism and difficulty.

But I have always hated the size of the stock chrono. Just seeing it pop up annoys me. (so this is personal, lol)

[DrBeast]

I found those changes in this post. They are the same, right?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=831357&postcount=10

......But they are not working for me after manually adding the lines.

Does anyone have Jimimadrid's JTeX editor to make this an easier process?

All links to it I have found are broken.

Nope, mine are slightly different.

Unfortunately, I don't have that wonderful little tool any more :cry:

[Webster]

Does anyone have Jimimadrid's JTeX editor to make this an easier process?

All links to it I have found are broken.


its easy without it.

use notepad and under "edit" there is a "find" and you use that to search for [G29 I2] and bam your there without going blind looking for stuff


i tried his settings on my game and everything works great and the chrono is a lot smaller then stock.


maybe you did something wrong the first time?

to make it easier for you just copy and paste this over the same section of your "menu_1024_768" file


[G29 I2]
Name=Chrono
Type=1026;Menu group
ItemID=0x29020000
ParentID=0x29000000
Pos=412,0,312,300
Zone= 412 768 234 225 0 1 0x29000000 1.23 0 0x29020000 -1 0 -550 0
Color=0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I3]
Name=Center
Type=1030;Static bmp
ItemID=0x29020006
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=154,-172,4,4
Zone= 566 596 3 3 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020006 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Materials=1
Display=0;No stretch
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0.0625,0.960938,1,0.984375
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x0

[G29 I4]
Name=Chronometer Second
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x2902000E
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=150,-82,12,184
Zone= 562 686 9 138 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x2902000E -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0x80FE
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.84375,0.03125,0.0234375,0.71875
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I5]
Name=Chronometer Minute
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x2902000F
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=152,-94,8,52
Zone= 564 674 6 39 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.09 0x2902000F -0.5 0 0 0
Color=0x80FE
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.910156,0.410156,0.015625,0.203125
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I6]
Name=Estimated Second
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020010
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=150,-82,12,184
Zone= 562 686 9 138 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020010 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0x800000FE
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.84375,0.03125,0.0234375,0.71875
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I7]
Name=TimeOfDay Hour
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020008
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=145,-87,22,174
Zone= 557 681 16.5 130.5 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020008 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.699219,0.21875,0.0429688,0.679688
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I8]
Name=TimeOfDay Minute
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020009
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=148,-76,16,196
Zone= 560 692 12 147 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.5 0x29020009 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.771484,0.1875,0.03125,0.765625
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I9]
Name=TimeOfDay Second
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020011
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=151,-201,8,60
Zone= 563 567 6 45 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -1 0x29020011 -0.5 1 -1 11
Color=0xFF
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.972656,0.40625,0.015625,0.234375
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I10]
Name=Torpedo Sec
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020002
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=152,-201,10,62
Zone= 564 567 7.5 46.5 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020002 -0.5 0.5 0 -7
Color=0x0
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.972656,0.40625,0.0195313,0.242188
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I11]
Name=Torpedo Min
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020003
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=153,-185,8,80
Zone= 565 583 6 60 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020003 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0xFFFFFF00
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.888672,0.253906,0.015625,0.3125
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I12]
Name=Estim Sec
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020004
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=152,-195,10,60
Zone= 564 573 7.5 45 0 1 0x29020007 0.5 -0.5 0x29020004 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0xFFFFFF00
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Chrono.tga
Crop 0=0.6875,0,0.3125,0.9375
MatFlags=0x29
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I13]
Name=Estim Min
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020005
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=152,-94,8,52
Zone= 564 674 6 39 0 1 0x2902000F 0.5 -0.5 0x29020005 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0x800000FE
Materials=1
Display=5;Linear&rotation
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.910156,0.410156,0.015625,0.203125
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=false
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I14]
Name=Small Dial
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020007
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=117,-185,80,80
Zone= 529 583 60 60 0 1 0x2902000C 0.5 -0.965 0x29020007 -0.5 1 1 0
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.154297,0.554688,0.15625,0.3125
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I15]
Name=Close button
Type=1032;Button
ItemID=0x2902000D
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=146,-48,20,18
Zone= 558 720 15 14 0 1 0x29020000 0.5 -0.16 0x2902000D -0.5 0 0 0
Materials=4
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.521484,0.21875,0.0390625,0.0703125
Mat 1=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 1=0.521484,0.21875,0.0390625,0.0703125
Mat 2=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 2=0.640625,0.21875,0.0390625,0.0703125
Mat 3=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 3=0.638672,0.214844,0.0390625,0.0703125
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Font=1
TextFlags=0x0
StatesColors=0xB0B0B0FF, 0xFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF
ToolTipText=78

[G29 I16]
Name=Big Dial
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x2902000C
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=58,-76,196,196
Zone= 470 692 147 147 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 -0.505 0x2902000C -0.5 0.5 0 0
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.0390625,0.128906,0.382813,0.765625
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I17]
Name=Handle Circular Outside
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x2902000B
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=38,-66,236,234
Zone= 450 702 177 176 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 -1 0x2902000B -0.5 1 0 0
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0,0.0898438,0.460938,0.914063
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I18]
Name=Big picture
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x29020001
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=38,-46,236,254
Zone= 450 722 177 191 0 1 0x29020000 0.5 -1 0x29020001 -0.5 1 0 0
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0,0.0078125,0.460938,0.992188
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=false
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF

[G29 I19]
Name=Chronometer Checkbox
Type=1033;Check box
ItemID=0x2902000A
ParentID=0x29020000
Pos=132,-10,48,36
Zone= 544 758 36 27 0 1 0x29020001 0.5 0 0x2902000A -0.5 1 0 0
Materials=8
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 0=0.494141,0.03125,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 1=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 1=0.494141,0,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 2=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 2=0.494141,0.03125,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 3=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 3=0.494141,0,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 4=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 4=0.613281,0.03125,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 5=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 5=0.613281,0,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 6=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 6=0.613281,0.03125,0.09375,0.140625
Mat 7=data/menu/skins/american/gui/clock.tga
Crop 7=0.613281,0,0.09375,0.140625
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0
Font=1
TextFlags=0x0
CheckBoxWidth=0
StatesColors=0xB0B0B0FF, 0xFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF
ToolTipText=2202

[RickC Sniper]

I DO know how to use the find and find next feature in notepad, I must have just copied a line into the wrong place or something.:-?

Thanks for the help....it works great now.

Rick