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jhapprich
11-20-11, 02:35 PM
Some pics of my new S.M.S. Helgoland mod:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1526/76666410.pnghttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/10/92896795.pnghttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3044/27866923.pnghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3708/67117491.pnghttp://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1285/21319899.pnghttp://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2064/26315991.png

Sailor Steve
11-20-11, 03:38 PM
Nice job, nice shots. If you hit 'Return' between each picture they will render vertically rather than horizontally, and the viewer won't need to scroll sideways to see them. :sunny:

steve_the_slim
11-20-11, 08:52 PM
Is this playable or AI-controlled? Either way, you might want to show this to the "Wolves of the Kaiser" guys.

jhapprich
11-21-11, 03:49 AM
both AI and career-playable as always :salute:

Klaus
11-21-11, 04:02 AM
Mr. Jhapprich any news about modern surface ships?
Kirov career playable?
Please :)

mariusz30
11-21-11, 06:12 AM
Mr. Jhapprich any news about modern surface ships?
Kirov career playable?
Please :)


- fuso
- Ise
please:wah:

jhapprich
11-21-11, 06:26 AM
sorry, folks, but I´ve stopped working on any modern ships and i won`t do the japanese warships. i am working on vessels of the Imperial German Navy. WIP are the Derfflinger and the light cruiser Emden (done 50%).

chrysanthos
11-21-11, 03:21 PM
when she is ready for download? and for what side is playble?

USS Drum
11-21-11, 08:57 PM
when she is ready for download? and for what side is playble?

All of his imperial German navy ships are for axis side. And also jhapprich can you also make some playable WW1 German U-boats?

sidslotm
11-22-11, 05:14 AM
Wow, soooo, good, can I try this in my campaign :woot:

iambecomelife
11-23-11, 06:40 PM
You really are making my job a lot easier! Thanks for another quality ship. A great tribute to the original class! :DL

chrysanthos
11-25-11, 07:48 AM
i hope the damage model works.....

jhapprich
02-22-12, 10:44 AM
Hello! Here are the Emden and Helgoland for Beta testing.they are not done since i have had little time recently, but as i know you are waiting ...

Link:

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21355586/SMSHelgoland_Emden.zip

steve_the_slim
02-23-12, 07:56 AM
Both work pretty well. The only bug I spotted with the Helgoland was crew members on the deck wandering overboard. The Emden on the other hand has a bug where the guns will fire through the hull and superstructure, which lets Emden direct much more firepower at a target than she should be able to.

I also had a thought regarding the Emden. It might be a good idea to add a second version of it with extra AA guns. I know that's not historically accurate, but since this is a WWII game I think it would be useful for gameplay purposes, since you can't crash dive when a plane comes after you. 3 AA guns just isn't enough.

steve_the_slim
02-23-12, 08:13 AM
EDIT: double post banished to the moon

jhapprich
02-23-12, 08:25 AM
yes, since i havent finished the firing restrictions for the gun mounts, they can shoot at any direction. the aa guns on emden are crap indeed, they will be replaced by the appropriate anti-torpedo gunnery which will play the AA role. furthermore, especially the emden model as well as the gun aren`t smoothed yet and the AO has to be rebaked.

chrysanthos
02-23-12, 11:07 PM
also the helgoland has another bug that when the ship takes some damage it explodes and sink

steve_the_slim
02-24-12, 01:43 AM
It doesn't just sink at the first hit, though. I tried it out in that Battle of the Sibuyan Sea mission and managed to take quite a few bomb hits before it went under. It lasted longer than the pocket battleship, actually.

jhapprich
02-24-12, 02:56 AM
yes, and this is something i havent been able to correct on my ships. the problem is, you take only minor damage and boom, you blow up. i tried adjusting the damage model, but still its the same. i guess its because of the way the game engine is programmed to have the ship types behave. we are faking ships, but the unittype is still submarine, not battleship. so a playable ship will not behave like a surface vessel like the yamato, which can take 10!!!! torpedoes from all around and still swims. any suggestions?

steve_the_slim
02-24-12, 04:57 AM
Ask cdp44. His ships have properly-functioning damage models.

Edit: Hang on a sec, I just thought of something. If I remember correctly from my testing of Emden, doesn't that ship have a working damage model? It steadily took damage over the course of an attack on a convoy, and by the time I disengaged I had 40-odd percent hull damage, lots of big nasty holes, and a funnel shot away.

jhapprich
02-24-12, 05:28 AM
yes, since it is based fully on the type 9 and i adjusted all the damage zones etc. still i believe the battleships of mine to be to easily destroyed. they should not just suddenly blow up.

steve_the_slim
02-25-12, 06:57 AM
I noticed another minor bug in the Helgoland. Some of the secondary guns are able to turn farther than they should. I took a picture of what I'm talking about, but apparently my computer ate it. The guns don't appear to be firing through the hull like the Emden's guns, so this isn't having any affect on gameplay; it just looks weird.

Klaus
02-25-12, 09:19 AM
I noticed another minor bug in the Helgoland. Some of the secondary guns are able to turn farther than they should. I took a picture of what I'm talking about, but apparently my computer ate it. The guns don't appear to be firing through the hull like the Emden's guns, so this isn't having any affect on gameplay; it just looks weird.
see if your picture is not in main sh4 folder, under the name SH4Img@yyyy-mm-dd_hh.mm.ss_xxx, i mean sh4img, date it was make and a number :)

jhapprich
02-25-12, 01:16 PM
as i mentioned before, the firing restrictions are not correct.thats it.

steve_the_slim
02-25-12, 07:48 PM
see if your picture is not in main sh4 folder, under the name SH4Img@yyyy-mm-dd_hh.mm.ss_xxx, i mean sh4img, date it was make and a number :)

I did this. All my older screenshots are still there, but none of the ones I took last night.

as i mentioned before, the firing restrictions are not correct.thats it.

I assumed you probably did know, but since I'm basically a beta tester for you I figured I'd make sure to tell you about any bugs I saw, even the obvious ones, seeing as that's kind of a beta tester's job.

Hotmanandre
03-04-12, 03:58 PM
And what classes will be? Will the SMS "Goeben"?:arrgh!:

Admiral Von Gerlach
03-12-12, 03:39 PM
What a wonderful surprise to see this handsome ship, he is one of the classics of that era fleet and was much beloved by her crews as she was a very stable sea going ship, and a dry deck too even in heavy weather....

very nicely done, excellent detail, even have correct recognition markings on Andrea turret, very nicely done....my best thanks to you Master Shipwright.

Emden is one of my most all favorite ships her history was amazing and it is going to be wonderful to see her.. any chance i can lure you to do my other favorite? the Scharnhorst? of that era? so many thanks for this wonderful work.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/SMS_Scharnhorst_by_Arthur_Renard.jpg

jhapprich
03-13-12, 03:03 AM
yes, i am thinking about doing the scharnhorst,too. but there are still many other unfinished projects, perhaps ill look into it when the derfflinger is done and the H-class hunter-killer rules the channel... ps. very nice picture, what a beauty!

Admiral Von Gerlach
03-19-12, 09:30 PM
Derflinger is a wonderful ship too, my grandfather knew the chief gunnery officer from her and they shared and excahnged a lot of letters and pictures and I inherited some....let me know if yoiu have any quesoitns about her...

and thanks so much for these wonderful projects...and thanks for the possiblity of the beautiful Schanrhorst......

yamatoforever
03-23-12, 02:30 PM
Great model! Fine job! :yeah:

Greetings
Molke2005

Zuk
03-28-12, 07:31 AM
Beautiful ship. :salute:

ZodiakLegion
06-07-15, 01:39 PM
Hello! Here are the Emden and Helgoland for Beta testing.they are not done since i have had little time recently, but as i know you are waiting ...

Link:

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21355586/SMSHelgoland_Emden.zip

Link is dead :/\\!! . Unless this project was scrapped :06: , any chance of a reupload? :hmmm:

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt
06-07-15, 04:45 PM
I can't download this wonderful mod on Filefront, please it's possible to have this mod on Mediafire?
sorry for my bad english.

jhapprich
06-09-15, 02:35 PM
here is a new link for my Imperial German Navy Ships:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1y5be0s3z5e7zsj/ImperialGermanNavy.rar

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt
06-09-15, 03:58 PM
Thanks:up:

ZodiakLegion
06-10-15, 06:50 PM
Awesome! :Kaleun_Salute: