(Rel) Smaller trees

[Echolot]

Hello captains.

Some of you kaleuns may find the trees in SH5 are too big or at wrong scale.

I edited the textures files for the trees to make the trees smaller.

Install via jsgme at any time and on top of "Dynamic Environment" (if used).

The base for my changes was "sobers real trees" (already in "Dynamic Environment").

Now we have darker and smaller trees. Thank you, sober.

Here are two screens to show the difference:

Before:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/572/beforeqc.jpg
After:
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/740/afterip.jpg




If you have any suggestions to make it better, please post here. Maybe someone have tree textures I could try to make better ones.

Download via Gamefront (http://www.gamefront.com/files/20986168/Small_trees_SH5_V1.7z)

Download via Rapidshare (https://rapidshare.com/files/752515477/Small_trees_SH5_V1.7z) (Thank you, Torpedo)

Download via subsim.com (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=3871) (Thank you subsim and sober)

Good hunting.

Regards.

Echol:ping:t.

[Magic1111]

Hi Echol:ping:t!

Wonderful work mate, many thx! :yeah:

Also thx to sober for give permission to use his MOD as base for this MOD! :up:

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

[tonschk]

Thank you very much :DL Echolot

[ETsd4]

Natural height of all varieties of firs = minimum 20m , maximum 100m (Wikipedia)

[Echolot]

Natural height of all varieties of firs = minimum 20m , maximum 100m (Wikipedia)

Sorry, ETds4, I don't understand. You mean, the trees are too small now?

Regards.

Echolot.

[ETsd4]

In the vicinity near buildings they look ok (maybe because city-vegetation is normaly trimmed) , but trees in the free open are growing very high.

[Webster]

good work, the trees near the buildings look to be the correct scale :up:


i have not looked at the other trees but if they match the ones by the buildings then your ok

[Angelis]

For me it looks like a great improvement. Thank you for your efforts!:salute:

[mobucks]

looks much better IMO, thanks!

[Echolot]

Hi.

I'm glad you guys like it. I don't want the big trees back.

Regards.

Echol:ping:t.

[Magic1111]

I don't want the big trees back.


Me too...! :D

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

[ETsd4]

Realistic simulation:
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv197/ViperGAR/d55f7fe1.jpg

[Echolot]

Hi ETsd4.

Nice pic. Maybe I will make a medium version in the future.

Regards.

Echol:ping:t.

[Otto Ites]

hey,

link is dead

[Torpedo]

Hi!
this is the link for "Smaller trees" of Echolot:

https://rapidshare.com/files/752515477/Small_trees_SH5_V1.7z

Torpedo

[tomhugill]

What sim is the helo picture from?

[Topo65]

What sim is the helo picture from?

DCS: Black Shark 2, from Eagle Dynamics.

[Cyril]

Thank you Echolot for the nice work.

Although I am not very often close to the shore in the game but far away on the Atlantic, I find it great every time a modder improves a part of SH5.
That´s what makes it a fantastic game. I look forward soon to return to my harbor to see the new sized trees :D

best regards
Cyril

[Echolot]

Hello Cyri.

Hope you like it.

1072 downloads :arrgh!:

Sink 'em all.

Echol:sunny:t.

[Pintea]

The trees are that big in order to better fill the huge visible land while not killing performance, however that may not be necessary anymore.

Someone could try ramping up the number of trees and modifying their distribution by modifying the data/terrain/TerrainObjectsDistribution.raw file. It's an 1250x1250 RAW file, can be modified with Photoshop.

[tonschk]

Thank you :salute: Pintea :yeah:

[Echolot]

Thank you Pintea.

:up:

[Echolot]

Stay tuned. :ping:

[gap]

Someone could try ramping up the number of trees and modifying their distribution by modifying the data/terrain/TerrainObjectsDistribution.raw file. It's an 1250x1250 RAW file, can be modified with Photoshop.

Hi Pintea, thank you for your head-up.

I've opened that file and all is see is a pattern of sprayed-like white/grey spots on a black background. :hmm2:
Can you explain how does this file work?

[Pintea]

Hi Pintea, thank you for your head-up.

I've opened that file and all is see is a pattern of sprayed-like white/grey spots on a black background. :hmm2:
Can you explain how does this file work?

That texture represents the tree distribution over an area of 5km x 5km (one pixel for each 4 meters). It is tiled everywhere, so the texture should be tileable, otherwise it will look bad.

Black = no trees
Grey to White = probability of trees, the whiter the more probable a tree will be there.

[Echolot]

Again, thank you Pintea.

:sunny:

[gap]

That texture represents the tree distribution over an area of 5km x 5km (one pixel for each 4 meters). It is tiled everywhere, so the texture should be tileable, otherwise it will look bad.

Black = no trees
Grey to White = probability of trees, the whiter the more probable a tree will be there.

Thank you very mutch Pintea! :sunny:

Since we are at it, I've always wandered how TerrainTypes.raw is related with the ID's found in Terrain.cfg. Any idea? :)

[THE_MASK]

Works a treat , i just added some squigly white lines to give more trees look on flat ground without added many more trees but it also gives an agricultural look if looking at a slope . My personal use only , waiting for someone to do the actual mod .

[Pintea]

Thank you very mutch Pintea! :sunny:

Since we are at it, I've always wandered how TerrainTypes.raw is related with the ID's found in Terrain.cfg. Any idea? :)

I believe I have an idea :)
TerrainTypes.raw is a representation of the climate zones around the globe.
The link between TerrainTypes.raw and in-game textures is made through Terrain.cfg, but I guess you figured that out already.

Now, open TerrainTypes.raw in photoshop and set Image->Mode->IndexedColor.
After that use the color picker to find out the color index value.
In Terrain.cfg you'll see something like

[IdxConversion]
IDX 1=2 ;Polar Deserts
IDX 2=2 ;Arctic Tundra
IDX 3=3 ;Typical Tundra
IDX 4=3 ;Southern Tundra

Where IDX 1, IDX 2 etc are color indices from TerrainTypes.raw.

[Echolot]

Hello sober.

I will play around with the file in photoshop tomorrow, but I'm not sure with raw files, have to learn it. Time for some experiments.

Best regards.

Echolot.



Thank you for the explanations Pintea. :salute:

:ping:

[gap]

I believe I have an idea :)
TerrainTypes.raw is a representation of the climate zones around the globe.
The link between TerrainTypes.raw and in-game textures is made through Terrain.cfg, but I guess you figured that out already.

Now, open TerrainTypes.raw in photoshop and set Image->Mode->IndexedColor.
After that use the color picker to find out the color index value.
In Terrain.cfg you'll see something like

[IdxConversion]
IDX 1=2 ;Polar Deserts
IDX 2=2 ;Arctic Tundra
IDX 3=3 ;Typical Tundra
IDX 4=3 ;Southern Tundra

Where IDX 1, IDX 2 etc are color indices from TerrainTypes.raw.

Pintea, you just gave me one missing piece of the puzzle, you are my hero! :woot:

I was sure that color values in the raw map had to be in relation with indices listed in Terrain.cfg, but until today mutch as I tried and tried again I couldn't find a way to match them.

Converting the map to indexed color mode, as suggested by you, finally made the trick! Am I correct in assuming that terrain's seasons settings are taken from cfg files found in the Env folder for each zone defined ClimateZones.tga?

I have one more question, if you don't mind: is it possible to set the game to use different seaweed and submerged rocks' textures, depending on season and terrain type, as done with seabottom sand, emerged rocks, and land vegetation textures?

[Pintea]

Pintea, you just gave me one missing piece of the puzzle, you are my hero! :woot: Glad to help ! :)
I haven't had too much time lately to keep an eye on the forums so I may have missed some discussions, but if anyone has any modding questions you can PM me.

Am I correct in assuming that terrain's seasons settings are taken from cfg files found in the Env folder for each zone defined ClimateZones.tga?

Yes, you are correct.
The vegetation type distribution is done through the TerrainTypes.raw/Terrain.cfg files, and the seasons for each vegetation type is defined in the Climatezones.tga/cfg files.
This is done because some vegetation types are used in multiple areas around the globe, but the seasons are not the same everywhere.


I have one more question, if you don't mind: is it possible to set the game to use different seaweed and submerged rocks' textures, depending on season and terrain type, as done with seabottom sand, emerged rocks, and land vegetation textures?
Unfortunately it's not possible, those are not linked with the climatezones/season data.

[THE_MASK]

download here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=3871

[Echolot]

download here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//dow...o=file&id=3871 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=3871)

Thank you sober.

Regards.

Echolot.

[THE_MASK]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2wcjplh.jpg

[Trevally.]

^^

Small trees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbd3E6tK2U)

:D

[THE_MASK]

More trees
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=3880

[Echolot]

Thank you sober. Is the screenshot in post 35 with your more trees mod enabled? In this case I need to edit my first post.

Regards.

Echol:hmmm:t.

[THE_MASK]

Thank you sober. Is the screenshot in post 35 with your more trees mod enabled? In this case I need to edit my first post.

Regards.

Echol:hmmm:t.Its a seperate mod . it just adds more trees , not smaller or darker . You need to use it as well as your mod Echolot .

[Bathrone]

Lots of mod warnings with Dynamic Environment 2.9

"vegetation_tundra_autumn.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_tundra_spring.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_tundra_summer.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_tundra_winter.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_gl_autumn.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_gl_spring.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_gl_summer.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_gl_winter.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_savanna_summer.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.
"vegetation_savanna_winter.dds" has already been altered by the "DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod" mod.


Whats dynamic environment doing with these files?

[gap]

Lots of mod warnings with Dynamic Environment 2.9

Whats dynamic environment doing with these files?

they are textures. Overwriting them with this mod is safe :up: