one day a type II in SH5?

[lesec74]

Hello,

IS there a chance to see a type II?

may thanks for answers

[Obelix]

Hello lesec74!
AI boat type 2 can be seen until the full version OHII

Regards!
Obelix

[lesec74]

thanks obelix,
but I want to say a playable type II...

[Magic1111]

thanks obelix,
but I want to say a playable type II...

...dream a little dream...:haha:

But maybe one day the dream come true...? :hmmm:

[urfisch]

give this game some years...and you might see some other playable types. IF the community keeps on hanging round sh5.

sh3 managed to fascinate many people and let them mod the game til today. i dont know, if sh5 will also reach this point...even there are extremly talented modders here. for many sh5 wasnt what they expected, so they never dealt with sh5 and will never do so. sad, but true. i would love to see sh5 reaching the state of todays sh3.

:yep:

[Tomi_099]

Hello,

IS there a chance to see a type II?

may thanks for answers

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The dreams could come true !! :hmmm:

Give me 2-WEEKS ..
http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/smartdark/rating_5.gif TheDarkWraith and Privateer !!
and - Type II - would get in Silent Hunter 5, the waves of the sea! :arrgh!:
....:yeah:...

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4206/picture0007.png

[lesec74]

hello:yeah:!!

What a marvellous news!!!playable in two weeks???

many,many
thanks:yeah::up:

[tonschk]

:woot:-----------------------


The dreams could come true !! :hmmm:

Give me 2-WEEKS ..
http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/smartdark/rating_5.gif TheDarkWraith and Privateer !!
and - Type II - would get in Silent Hunter 5, the waves of the sea! :arrgh!:
....:yeah:...




:DL Hallo Tomi, Guten Tag :salute:, :yeah: :woot: The dreams could come true :rock::salute:

[0rpheus]

Fingers crossed! This could be excellent - good luck Tomi! :salute:

[Trevally.]

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The dreams could come true !! :hmmm:

Give me 2-WEEKS ..
http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/smartdark/rating_5.gif TheDarkWraith and Privateer !!
and - Type II - would get in Silent Hunter 5, the waves of the sea! :arrgh!:
....:yeah:...


Fantastic.
Big thanks to all involved:yeah:

[Madox58]

All that is needed is the 3D models/textures for the interiors.
(The exterior is already there)
Once those are converted to GR2 format, someone to do the Crew placement/animation stuff and so on.

Maybe not as soon as 2 weeks.
But it is do-able right now.

[Tomi_099]

hello:yeah:!!

What a marvellous news!!!playable in two weeks???

many,many
thanks:yeah::up:

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---- :hmmm: ....

The most important question is?
whether

the two "Kammeraden" for this mission
Have the time and power?

... TheDarkWraith and Privateer! ......:06:


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I might do another external torpedo loading animation on this new deck
( In Port ).
But it would probably at the moment only for SH4 can use. :hmmm:

.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4447/typii1aa.jpg

[Meldric]

That given as a fact, we can surely expect also a XXI one day? That'd be awesome!

[Tomi_099]

All that is needed is the 3D models/textures for the interiors.
(The exterior is already there)
Once those are converted to GR2 format, someone to do the Crew placement/animation stuff and so on.

Maybe not as soon as 2 weeks.
But it is do-able right now.


Hello Privateer apologize for the attack! :rock:
But the whole border forum!

Would you Privateer !!.. create with .. DW to and me .. implement the interior in SH5 :06:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/646/typii1b.jpg

[Sbygneus]

I wouldn't like to disturb your enthusiasm, but shouldn't be TYPE VIII finished and polished first? There are still many things not working correctly or missing, and the able modders are few.

[Tomi_099]

I wouldn't like to disturb your enthusiasm, but shouldn't be TYPE VIII finished and polished first? There are still many things not working correctly or missing, and the able modders are few.

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But yes !!! you are right!!!
of type II is a new boat in the bathtub!
And a NEW challenge! :03:

[TheDarkWraith]

Once the obstacle of making new GR2 files and changing the contents (3D model wise) of GR2 files is lifted then a whole new area of SH5 will open up :yep: Until then we are limited 3D model wise what we can do. We can import new units though using .dat files.

[Madox58]

@Tomi,

I can build the GR2 files with a proper format at anytime.
If you have animations?
I can convert those to GR2 format also.
All with proper CRC's so Stock GrannyViewer can see them.
:03:

Someone else can do the sim work, crew work, etc.
I'm a bit busy with the 'Open Bunker' I'm working on but I'll assist if needed.

[Tomi_099]

@Tomi,

I can build the GR2 files with a proper format at anytime.
If you have animations?
I can convert those to GR2 format also.
All with proper CRC's so Stock GrannyViewer can see them.
:03:

Someone else can do the sim work, crew work, etc.
I'm a bit busy with the 'Open Bunker' I'm working on but I'll assist if needed.

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Wow that's great!
The interior (engine room), I have in Silent Hunter 4 ( DAT )
with texture and animation engine.

So I could send you and the DW.. and we divide the work. :hmmm:

I could then build the external torpedo-animation in 3D-MAX
with -Animated Crou

o.k !! :salute:

[Madox58]

I need files in max format.
There is only one way to build the files to convert to a proper GR2.
I don't make the rules. I just follow them.

[TheDarkWraith]

I need files in max format.
There is only one way to build the files to convert to a proper GR2.
I don't make the rules. I just follow them.

Are you going to release the GR2 exporter for 3DS MAX so that everyone can start making new GR2 files :06: This would be huge if we could start making completely new GR2 files :yep:

[Madox58]

It's already out there on the 'Net Mate!
:haha:

It's not my Tools but they work Great if you understand how to use them.
:DL

[TheDarkWraith]

It's already out there on the 'Net Mate!
:haha:

It's not my Tools but they work Great if you understand how to use them.
:DL

Then you should start a new thread explaining to the community how to do it :up: This would be a huge step forward for SH5 :yeah:

[Madox58]

When I complete the 'Das Only Open Bunker In Existance',
or 'doobie' as I fondly refure to it, I probably will.

Rest assured many will be bummed because there is Hex Editing involved
in many phases to mod existing GR2 files.

But after a year of nothing but working the GR2 format?
I do know it better then I know my Wife!
:haha:

[tonschk]

:DL Thank you :salute: privateer :rock: Thank you very much :yeah:

[Madox58]

Then you should start a new thread explaining to the community how to do it

I was going to start something like that awhile back.
Then someone decided to work the dat format and you see where we are today.
:nope:

Your advice to me means nothing nowdays Mate.
And I can go even longer withholding what I know.

Where you all have wasted time with the dat format I made advances in the GR2 format.

Where I spent blood ,sweat, and tears over endless sleepless nites?
You want me to just give it all up?
I get no chance to surprise people or anything right?
People keep saying things have changed.
But I really don't see that change.

I consider what I know as Knowledge.
So I think I'll demand a price for that knowledge.

I think it's called Intellectable knowledge.
I can follow the lead.

[TheDarkWraith]

You decide whatever image you want to convey to the community....and it doesn't look good currently :shifty: I may have figured out how to use .dat files but I didn't withhold the info. I shared it with everyone so we could start getting new units into the game.

I do recall offering to help you with the GR2 file conversion/mapping/etc. but you turned me down.

Whatever you decide to do is up to you :up:

It'll be just a matter of time before I figure it out. When I do I'll share that info with the community so SH5 can become greater than it already is :yeah:

[tonschk]

so SH5 can become greater than it already is :yeah:


:salute::yeah::DL:rock:

[Madox58]

I could not care less about my 'Image' to the Users.
I may appear to be the worst nightmare to walk down the road?
But Many know the TRUE facts behind many years.
So I claim Intellectual rights?
:hmmm:
Who started THAT little line of crap?
You can't figure out what I know or you already would have!!
And I even left clues!!!!!
:haha:
Don't try kidding a kidder Mate!
Your VERY bad at that!

Why don't you explain how I can walk the entire bunker to everyone?
Or do you need the files to copy?

Tomi asked for help, I answered.
You started the 'tell me everything' crap.

I don't work that way. Deal with it without makeing it an issue.
Or We don't work on it. Pretty simple line of thought.

[Illyustrator]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=386&pictureid=4821

[mia389]

I could not care less about my 'Image' to the Users.
I may appear to be the worst nightmare to walk down the road?
But Many know the TRUE facts behind many years.
So I claim Intellectual rights?
:hmmm:
Who started THAT little line of crap?
You can't figure out what I know or you already would have!!
And I even left clues!!!!!
:haha:
Don't try kidding a kidder Mate!
Your VERY bad at that!

Why don't you explain how I can walk the entire bunker to everyone?
Or do you need the files to copy?

Tomi asked for help, I answered.
You started the 'tell me everything' crap.

I don't work that way. Deal with it without makeing it an issue.
Or We don't work on it. Pretty simple line of thought.

I think I am totally lost here.

On another note, pictures from first page look great.

[Stevepine]

I could not care less about my 'Image' to the Users.
I may appear to be the worst nightmare to walk down the road?
But Many know the TRUE facts behind many years.
So I claim Intellectual rights?
:hmmm:
Who started THAT little line of crap?
You can't figure out what I know or you already would have!!
And I even left clues!!!!!
:haha:
Don't try kidding a kidder Mate!
Your VERY bad at that!

Why don't you explain how I can walk the entire bunker to everyone?
Or do you need the files to copy?

Tomi asked for help, I answered.
You started the 'tell me everything' crap.

I don't work that way. Deal with it without makeing it an issue.
Or We don't work on it. Pretty simple line of thought.

Oh dear..... clash of the egos

same old same old.

Privateer... Do you care more about the game and its community..... OR do you care more about trying to get some sort of ' wierd online glory ' from being able to do things other people cant?

[Madox58]

Privateer... Do you care more about the game and its community..... OR do you care more about trying to get some sort of ' wierd online glory ' from being able to do things other people cant?

I'm going to have to go with B on that.
I don't care much for SH5 and I don't see a SH5 community I worry about being accepted in.

What I can do, anyone can do.
But I suspect you want a handout so you can avoid the work involved in learning.

Trying to play on my conscious is a waste of time.

[tomhugill]

Lets not start this again, it got no where last time and wont do any good now! If priv wants to keep this to him self for the time being its obviously his call. I know for sure there are tools out there that people choose not to realease, the only difference is priv freely admits this so fair play to you for your candour. I look forward to seeing a type 2 as this will be a real mile stone. Im also intrigued by this open bunker mod!

[Stevepine]

I'm going to have to go with B on that.
I don't care much for SH5 and I don't see a SH5 community I worry about being accepted in.

What I can do, anyone can do.
But I suspect you want a handout so you can avoid the work involved in learning.

Trying to play on my conscious is a waste of time.

well , I can understand not really caring about the community (to an extent) but I just worry that SH5 is not developing into the sim that it could be because of people arguing like this. Surely you care about the future of the game?

I would love to learn but I am no progammer and have no ability ...just not good enough to ever make a mod.

[kapitan_zur_see]

Mmm that's getting quite tense here :D

I can understand the ego thing. When you work hard on a mod, even small ones like I do, you want to feel some sort of reward from the users, from yourself, having the pleasure to have achieved something previously unseen on the game... Sure you'd become angry that one could release the same mod just before you do, claiming all the succes, Getting your knowledge from what you shared previously about your workflow and tools discovering.

It may appears a bit "kiddy" to external users but I believe it's only human. Now if he couldn't care less about users, I couldn't care less for him personaly... Only thing I know is that he got some strong knowledge and interesting area of expertise and it can be very useful for SH5... Personaly I would download a nice mod, Privateer could as well call it "take that! How about I did it before you did uh?" or "in your face! You insignificant insects..." if that's his type, I don't know the guy... He can do great thing, if i recall correct. All that matter to me now. If he doesn't want to share, so be it. I know TDW will, at some point

I'm sensing that there has been some private arguing around GR2 and stuff and that Privateer, working hard on his own in this direction wants to release a breakthrough mod before sharing his knowledge and his past blood and tears night consuming work. And this, I can totally understand. As long as he wants to improve sh5 and have fun modding it, I'm in

[mikaelanderlund]

I was going to start something like that awhile back.
Then someone decided to work the dat format and you see where we are today.
:nope:

Your advice to me means nothing nowdays Mate.
And I can go even longer withholding what I know.

Where you all have wasted time with the dat format I made advances in the GR2 format.

Where I spent blood ,sweat, and tears over endless sleepless nites?
You want me to just give it all up?
I get no chance to surprise people or anything right?
People keep saying things have changed.
But I really don't see that change.

I consider what I know as Knowledge.
So I think I'll demand a price for that knowledge.

I think it's called Intellectable knowledge.
I can follow the lead.

:har::cry::hmmm:

[S.Jaszczak]

I used to do 3d some years back and there is a lot of learning to do... it all takes a long time, I would love to figure out what programs to use etc, I would also love to do skins, textures etc, been doing some for Combat Flight Sim.

So if people wanna point me in the right direction, hell, then I am gonna figure out what to do, I might be a new member of this community, but since I can't make scripts etc, I rather use my ability with pure graphical items.

To Privateer, I know what your coming from, and I am impressed by your work, but I am also impressed by TDW work, you both done a lot of good work for the Subsim Community, and It's sad to see the two of you in a argument.

Anyways best of luck with all your projects :)

[Obelix]

So this is what's wrong! I know one person who has long prepared the revised interior of boat type VII, and he expected only the appearance of GR2 exporter to release free swimming in their own experience. And here is just childish whims, because we do not see these things. Illyustrator presented well-aimed fable that illustrates the situation with 3D models.
TheDarkWraith inspires respect for his persistence and tenacity with which he fights the bugs SH5.

It'll be just a matter of time before I figure it out. When I do I'll share that info with the community so SH5 can become greater than it already is :yeah:
I am sure that he really will soon sort out what's what and SH5 will see new units GR2.
It did not happen to surprise, you say? And I'm sure that immediately after the publication GR2 exporter of surprise, delight and gratitude would not be the limit! And so we see a situation that TheDarkWraith almost single-handedly trying to overcome deficiencies ubisoft, made a lot of useful tools and as a consequence, the lion's share of thanks goes to him. And I think he deserves it - a penny for his pains he had not constantly open to new ideas and suggestions, accept criticism.
Ubisoft and the already complicated task of us to improve the game, so do not need more and exacerbate the situation for ourselves, or we work together, or this forum's time to close - meaning it is lost.
Privateer, buddy, chin up! Your work is highly respected, they are surprised. You do not have to worry about. Just do what you are able to do and of gratitude and amazement at your work will not be the limit! Good luck!

[Madox58]

I will share all the knowledge I have at the proper time.
There are still somethings that I need to sort out and some Tools I need to write to make the whole deal easier for people to use.
(I know you all don't want to Hex Edit things as I do)

What I don't like is people telling me I should release what I know or what Tools I have until I am ready to do so.
I also don't like dumping unfinished/problem mods on people.
I ask people by PM to test things for me.
I usually look for people with some modding background as they have an insight into what is really going on.

When the Bunker is ready for a public release?
That information and any special Tools will be included.
As will links to other needed Tools.

I have never played SH5 beyound Modding somethings because I am more interested in the Granny System and how to abuse it!
:haha:

I find 'The First Templar' a more enjoyable Game myself.
And Yes, it uses the RAD Games Granny System.

If what I plan on doing does not suit some peoples tastes?
So be it.
I'm not a very popular person in real life and I have no plans to change.
Why should I worry about being popular here?

You may hate me with a passion if you wish.
But I'd bet the next years profits from my business that what I release soon will be used for a very long time.
And I'd also bet that credits will be far and few inbetween.

[CCIP]

Guys, we've gone a bit off the topic here. It sounds like work is going on behind the scenes, and I do hope the differences will eventually be resolved. In the meantime, let's all be happy with what's been already achieved and avoid wrangling over reasons to do or not do certain things.

Thread closed.