[WIP] USS Portland CA-33

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hello Captains,

my USS Portland CA-33 in a version after her refit in 1944 is nearly ready to release.

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland01.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland02.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland03.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland04.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland05.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portland06.jpg

Regards

Maddy

[jhapprich]

nicely done! selbstgemixtes modell? mfg

[AOTD_MadMax]

nicely done! selbstgemixtes modell? mfg

Moin,

was meinst Du mit "selbstgemixtes modell" ?
Sie ist aus der vom "Frosch" überarbeiteten "Northampton" entstanden und alle arbeiten daran bis auf die Texturen, die ebenfalls vom "Frosch" kommen, sind meiner Feder entsprungen.

Gruß

Maddy

[jhapprich]

Aha, na dann nenn ich das jetzt mal eine gelungene Kooperation!:yeah:

[iambecomelife]

Beautiful. I always wanted the "Indianapolis" for Silent Hunter - this is a good stand-in because they would have looked almost identical. :yep:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/n80000/n86911.jpg

[BossMark]

Hmm very nice looking forward to this :rock:

[yamatoforever]

:up: Very cool .....

Greetings
Molke2005

[Armistead]

She's a beauty max..one of your best.

[AOTD_MadMax]

Beautiful. I always wanted the "Indianapolis" for Silent Hunter - this is a good stand-in because they would have looked almost identical. :yep:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/n80000/n86911.jpg

Thanks iambecome for this picture.
In case of this i reworked some details on the Portland.

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Indianapolis.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portlandbau18.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portlandbau19.jpg

Regards

Maddy

[MGR1]

Hi Maddy,

Regards the mod you made to the hanger sides:
http://www.aotd-flottille.de//FOTRS/Upgrades/US_Zerris2/Portlandbau19.jpg

I'm using Google translate for this next as my German is very poor!

Es gab keine Verkleidungen under the gun Wannen. Was Sie sehen, in das Foto des Indianapolis tatsächlich Schatten der guntubs cast wie das Foto in starkem Sonnenlicht genommen wurde. Die Seiten des Hängers waren völlig flach und ohne Verkleidung.

Wenn Sie OK mit einigen Rückmeldungen sind, wird das Modell präzise für die Indianapolis vor ihrer letzten Überholung. Für den Portland, sollten Sie verkürzen das Vorschiff so dass es direkt vor dem Trichter endet. Die Indy als Flaggschiff eingebaut wurde, so hatte sie eine längere Vorschiff eine Unterkunft für einen Admiral und seine Mitarbeiter bieten.

Ein weiterer Unterschied ist, dass die Portland eine etwas höhere formast hatte ebenso.

Als für das Modell wie es ist, wenn Sie die Verkleidungen zu entfernen, dann entfernen Sie den Port Katapult (aber lassen Sie den Turm in place), haben Sie die Indianapolis, als sie beim versenkt wurde.

(In English: There weren't any fairings under the gun tubs. What you see in the photo of the Indianapolis are actually shadows cast by the guntubs as the photo was taken in strong sunlight. The sides of the hanger were completely flat with no fairings.

If you are OK with some feedback, the model is accurate for the Indianapolis prior to her last refit. For the Portland, you should shorten the forecastle so it terminates just in front of the funnel. The Indy was fitted as a flagship, so she had a longer forecastle to provide accomodation for an Admiral and his staff.

Another difference is that the Portland had a slightly higher formast as well.

As for the model as is, if you remove the fairings, then remove the port catapult (but leave the tower in place), you'll have the Indianapolis as she was when sunk.)

Hope that helps!

It's good model!:yeah:

Mike.:)

[AOTD_MadMax]

Thanks MGR for this informations.
I reworked it back cause you are right, that are only shadows on the picture.

Regards

Maddy

[iambecomelife]

Any chance we could see two versions of this class, including an early war version around 1942? In my opinion Portland and Indianapolis looked even better with their bridge windows intact. You could, of course, give a disappearance date in their cfg file that corresponds to their first major refit. SH4 badly needs 1942 versions of most American BB's and CA's.

Anyway, excellent job on a hard to model ship!

http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/035/0403579.jpg

[Karle94]

Any chance we could see two versions of this class, including an early war version around 1942? In my opinion Portland and Indianapolis looked even better with their bridge windows intact. You could, of course, give a disappearance date in their cfg file that corresponds to their first major refit. SH4 badly needs 1942 versions of most American BB's and CA's.

Anyway, excellent job on a hard to model ship!

http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/035/0403579.jpg

I have made the pre refit versions of the New Orleans, Portland and Pensacola. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186531

[iambecomelife]

Excellent! Somehow I missed that thread.

[the_frog]

Hello Maddy!

Great model :yeah:

Do not mind the forecastle lenght; that changed with time also on the Northamptons (partly due to an attempt to reduce top weight). We cannot build ship in all phases of their carreers (I tried with the Leander Class and ended up with 4 separate models ...). Just go for what you like best. That'll do!

Cheers -- the Frog

[MGR1]

Hello Maddy!

Great model :yeah:

Do not mind the forecastle lenght; that changed with time also on the Northamptons (partly due to an attempt to reduce top weight).

Cheers -- the Frog

Not exactly - the focs'le length didn't change on the Portlands or the Northamptons!:03:

Indy, Houston, Chicago and Augusta all had the long forecastle's and retained them until loss or scrapping. Portland, Northampton, Louisville and Chester had short forecastle's. :smug::03:

For some reason, the USN decided to have a visual difference between flag and non-flag fitted vessels in these two classes. The Pensacola's, New Orlean's and subsequent classes weren't different visually in this case, although I'm not sure as to how prevelent flag accomodation was with these classes.:hmmm:

Your quite correct that alterations were made to reduce topweight and also to clear sky arcs for the AA guns.

All that's needed would be one model to represent Portland, Louisville and Chester and another for Augusta and Indianapolis. By 1944/45 all 5 survivors were pretty much identical.

It's 1942 that the major differences were still there!

As you may have surmised, I know a wee bit too much about these ships.:arrgh!:

At the end of the day, it's Max's model and he'll do what he wants with it.:yeah:

Mike.:D

[Karle94]

Not exactly - the focs'le length didn't change on the Portlands or the Northamptons!:03:

Indy, Houston, Chicago and Augusta all had the long forecastle's and retained them until loss or scrapping. Portland, Northampton, Louisville and Chester had short forecastle's. :smug::03:

For some reason, the USN decided to have a visual difference between flag and non-flag fitted vessels in these two classes. The Pensacola's, New Orlean's and subsequent classes weren't different visually in this case, although I'm not sure as to how prevelent flag accomodation was with these classes.:hmmm:

Your quite correct that alterations were made to reduce topweight and also to clear sky arcs for the AA guns.

All that's needed would be one model to represent Portland, Louisville and Chester and another for Augusta and Indianapolis. By 1944/45 all 5 survivors were pretty much identical.

It's 1942 that the major differences were still there!

As you may have surmised, I know a wee bit too much about these ships.:arrgh!:

At the end of the day, it's Max's model and he'll do what he wants with it.:yeah:

Mike.:D

The refits of the Pensacola class, Northampton class, Portland class and New Orleans class were nearly identical. It was just the basic differences that separated these classes that were still visible after their refits.

[MGR1]

The refits of the Pensacola class, Northampton class, Portland class and New Orleans class were nearly identical. It was just the basic differences that separated these classes that were still visible after their refits.

Agreed!:up:

Mike.:)

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hello Captains,

ok so this modell i have made stands for the CA-35 USS Indianapolis cause she got the long forecastle right ?
The problem i have is that the forecastle-lenght is defined by the hull so there there is no option to build bothe ships with different forecastle by using the forecastle-modells in a external Dat-file, loadet in the Equip-file by an Y-Node.:damn:

So i have to workout an second modell for the other units ( Portland, Louisville and Chester ).

I will try it.

Regards

Maddy

[Yamato_NF12094413]

Can you release the USS Potland as quickly as possible ? :wah:

[Archer7seven]

Is this an AI model or is she career playable?

Thanks.