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JU_88
06-02-11, 05:03 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/microsoft-unveils-windows-8-tablet-prototypes/

First impressions? Looks like they want to transform the PC in to a GIANT IPAD.... NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :down:
It looks great for Touch screen Mobile devices and Tablet PCs etc, but on a conventional desktop or laptop? Errr ....I guess we wait to see this 'other' version that is mentioned in the article.
They say it will work great with keyboard and mouse, but looking at that demo I gotta admit it is pretty hard to see how. :hmmm:
Still Id like to think we can (somehow) trust MS not to screw this up.

Also i do wonder what all my legacy 'Pre Windows 8' apps & games will look like? maybe a a bunch of ugly white text boxes? mmmm all the "personality" of a shopping list!

Though they dont explicitly mention it, I can only assume they will try to emulate Apples business model too by opening an Appstore for the PC
If so thats a double edged sword I guess.

Betonov
06-02-11, 05:26 AM
A bit of patching, a bit of fixes and a lot of consumer feedback. And a touchscreen monitor that shouldn't be too expensive once this creates a high demand. Let's not be pesimistic (nor too optimistic).

Problem is, it will work with touchscreen laptops, but my PC monitor is almost a meter (3ft) away from me, touching the screen is useless

Jimbuna
06-02-11, 05:32 AM
Just leave W7 well alone...I haven't had it that long :DL

JU_88
06-02-11, 05:34 AM
A bit of patching, a bit of fixes and a lot of consumer feedback. And a touchscreen monitor that shouldn't be too expensive once this creates a high demand. Let's not be pesimistic (nor too optimistic).

Problem is, it will work with touchscreen laptops, but my PC monitor is almost a meter (3ft) away from me, touching the screen is useless

Yep, touch screen and desktops dont mix, just for second lets pretend our monitor is a touch screen,

1) First move in closer so you can reach more easily, do your eyes hurt yet? Yes? Good -
2) now point around your screen with your finger for 1 minute and see how tired your arm gets.
3) Now imagine theres an on-screen keyboard...

Carple tunnel syndrome and blindness anyone?
The solution would be to lay the display flat on the table... oh wait now I have neck cramps and back pain
I can see the advertising campaign: "I am now crippled and Windows 8 was my Idea" :D

@Jimbo, Same here mate, Ive only had it year meself.

papa_smurf
06-02-11, 05:35 AM
Just leave W7 well alone...I haven't had it that long :DL

Same here, though I remember when Windows vista was in development (called project Longhorn), and that took another 2 years for it to come out.

TarJak
06-02-11, 05:36 AM
Clearly they are responding to the iPad. Even Apple are not trying to mix the UI's. I'll reserve judgement until I can see it for real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I

Looks like Windowsphone interface.:hmmm:

joea
06-02-11, 05:41 AM
Clearly they are responding to the iPad. Even Apple are not trying to mix the UI's. I'll reserve judgement until I can see it for real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I

Looks like Windowsphone interface.:hmmm:
First thing that came to my mind. :nope:

Betonov
06-02-11, 05:44 AM
Just leave W7 well alone...I haven't had it that long :DL

I have it for 2 months now.

The best thing would be, having two separate monitors, one laxing flat on the desk and the other for wieving. Or one touch-pad on the desk. Dont worry, the geeks will find a solution to it better then the people at MS

the_tyrant
06-02-11, 05:53 AM
i have an hp touchsmart laptop, and my mom has an gateway touch screen desktop

its better than you think, i love the touchscreen

Skybird
06-02-11, 06:06 AM
If they follow by their 2-2 rule (every second version of Windows is a good one, the inbetween versions are bad ones), after XP was good and Vista was bad and Windows 7 was good, Windows 8 may go bad again.

Tradition is tradition.

A touchscreen is nice for painting software, really, but else I do not understand the hype about it. but I also do not understand the hype over ipads, smartphones and the like, so maybe I am just living in the wrong age. I just think it is stupid to spend so much attention to things like this.

Windows 7 user over here since 3 months. And a very happy one. I refuse to bother myself with just another OS again that soon. Ask again in 8 years or so.

JU_88
06-02-11, 06:10 AM
If they follow by their 2-2 rule (every second version of Windows is a good one, the inbetween versions are bad ones), after XP was good and Vista was bad and Windows 7 was good, Windows 8 may go bad again.

Tradition is tradition.

A touchscreen is nice for painting software, really, but else I do not understand the hype about it. but I also do not understand the hype over ipads, smartphones and the like, so maybe I am just living in the wrong age. I just think it is stupid to spend so much attention to things like this.

Windows 7 user over here since 3 months. And a very happy one. I refuse to bother myself with just another OS again that soon. Ask again in 8 years or so.

Good observation that :)

the_tyrant
06-02-11, 07:03 AM
If they follow by their 2-2 rule (every second version of Windows is a good one, the inbetween versions are bad ones), after XP was good and Vista was bad and Windows 7 was good, Windows 8 may go bad again.

Tradition is tradition.

A touchscreen is nice for painting software, really, but else I do not understand the hype about it. but I also do not understand the hype over ipads, smartphones and the like, so maybe I am just living in the wrong age. I just think it is stupid to spend so much attention to things like this.

Windows 7 user over here since 3 months. And a very happy one. I refuse to bother myself with just another OS again that soon. Ask again in 8 years or so.

well you see, the theory behind that is, the first operating system of every major version is bad

from NT 4, there was 2000 (version 5) xp (version 5.1), vista (version 6), and 7 (which is actually version 6.1)

now we don't know yet if windows 8 will actually be version 6.2 or version 7
if its version 7, there is a good chance that it will be mediocre, with poor features and stability. however, if it's version 6.2, than it will probably be quite good

NeonSamurai
06-02-11, 09:08 AM
Microsoft has always been doing stuff like this. Every version comes with some good ideas, and a lot of asinine ideas and changes to existing stuff that no one wants.

Like Windows 7, it has several good innovations and several changes that make me wonder what the <censored> <censored> <censored> they were thinking.

Raptor1
06-02-11, 09:30 AM
well you see, the theory behind that is, the first operating system of every major version is bad

from NT 4, there was 2000 (version 5) xp (version 5.1), vista (version 6), and 7 (which is actually version 6.1)

now we don't know yet if windows 8 will actually be version 6.2 or version 7
if its version 7, there is a good chance that it will be mediocre, with poor features and stability. however, if it's version 7, than it will probably be quite good

If it's version 7 it will be mediocre, and if it is version 7 it will probably be quite good? Make up your bloody mind... :O:

Anyway, Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing logical numbers. Every time they went beyond *.1 the numbers started going everywhere, like with NT 3.5 and Windows Me (AKA Windows 4.9). I doubt we'll be seeing a straight forward version like Windows 6.2...Oh, does that mean we can start taking bets on the new version number? :hmmm:

Anyway, you're partially right, but every other Windows release has been terrible even if it's from the same series as the previously good ones (See Windows Me). I guess we'll see how bad this one turns out soon enough...

Wolfehunter
06-02-11, 12:11 PM
I was never interested in touchscreens. For home use I don't see any value. There are applications I can see its value to use that tech. But for me I have no need of it. I'm conferrable with keyboard and mouse.

When computers can understand voice commands better and responds with a simulated personality touchscreens will be obsolete. :)

Also screen is expensive to replace when damaged. Keyboards are cheap. Money will dictate what changes the market. Most business will use the tradition cheap method. :D

AVGWarhawk
06-02-11, 12:52 PM
Looks like the Windows 7 Mobile on my wifes phone. She touches 'tiles' to navigate to the apps. Not that bad really.

Sailor Steve
06-02-11, 04:00 PM
I'm still waiting to get a computer that will make decent use of Windows 7. :cry:

I have some friends with touch-screen phones, and I must admit they are pretty cool, but my 28" monitor sits just out of arm's reach, and I like it that way.

No I don't. I'm pulling it closer. Anyway, I can understand why they want to make these things, but I'm still fuzzy on why I would want one.

kiwi_2005
06-02-11, 04:02 PM
Just leave W7 well alone...I haven't had it that long :DL

Yeah same here! :)

frau kaleun
06-02-11, 04:38 PM
All I can think about is how icky the screen is going to get from all that touching. Especially if you're eating Cheetohs while computing. :nope:

Anthony W.
06-02-11, 05:12 PM
I went bankrupt on medical bills, and Windows 8 was my idea

Jimbuna
06-02-11, 05:38 PM
I went bankrupt on medical bills, and Windows 8 was my idea

Lucky you :O:

flatsixes
06-02-11, 05:38 PM
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Winows81-1.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows812.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows82.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows83.jpg

Jimbuna
06-02-11, 05:43 PM
Nice one :DL

kiwi_2005
06-02-11, 05:47 PM
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Winows81-1.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows812.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows82.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/Windows83.jpg


:haha: :yeah:

the_tyrant
06-02-11, 06:15 PM
If it's version 7 it will be mediocre, and if it is version 7 it will probably be quite good? Make up your bloody mind... :O:


yeah, thanks for the reminder, fixed

I hate the windows numbering system

why is Windows 7 actually windows 6.1?
I feel cheated

vienna
06-02-11, 06:24 PM
I was using a computer in the local library to do some database research (the databases are only accessible from the library) and a female patron sat down at the computer next to me and was tring to login. The computer system is set up with a login window that acts as a screensaver and floats across the screen until you move the mouse or hit a key on the keyboard; then the window stops dead center and you can enter your login code. I was busy looking up data when I happened to glance at the person next to me and saw her frantically trying the catch the floating window with her finger and she was digging her fingernail into the LCD screen as she dragged it after the window. She was creating some very impressive ripples in the surface of the screen, so I told her it wasn't a touch screen. Her reply was to show me her iPhone and say, "But my phone has one." I reached over, moved the mouse, the window stopped and I told her to enter her he login ID. She seemed very annoyed to be dealing with such antiquated equipment; she rather reminded me of the Star Trek film where they went be to earth in the 1980's and Scooty had to deal with computers that did not respond to voice commands and his comment: "How Quaint." I have long maintained a very, very large number of "computer problems" are more due to the people using them than the computers themselves. No matter how foolproof they make new systems, evolution seems to produce bigger, better fools...

Platapus
06-02-11, 06:31 PM
I am still pissed that some of my favourite games can't be played on Windows 7 :damn: I assume this will get worse with windows 8 :stare:

Raptor1
06-02-11, 06:34 PM
I am still pissed that some of my favourite games can't be played on Windows 7 :damn: I assume this will get worse with windows 8 :stare:

Which games are those? I haven't had too much trouble running old games on Windows 7...

longam
06-02-11, 06:36 PM
Looks like the Windows 7 Mobile on my wifes phone. She touches 'tiles' to navigate to the apps. Not that bad really.

I was thinking the same looking at windows mobile, this on the other hand actually makes use of the desktop instead of a place to display pretty pictures. The info icons are interesting in giving you information before you even click on them. It also seems the the interface would be of your choice giving you a wide platform which to run the OS.

Personally, I see tablets the next gen of PC's replacing desktops for casual use of surfing and email. As far as the desktop I'm sure it will be customizable to your needs.

Castout
06-02-11, 06:58 PM
I'm happy with 7 so I don't see why I should migrate except for better security and better application(games) performance environment.

CptSimFreak
06-02-11, 08:04 PM
I use my TV (55inch) as a monitor. WTF do I need a a touchscreen for?

Anthony W.
06-02-11, 09:21 PM
I use my TV (55inch) as a monitor. WTF do I need a a touchscreen for?

And I've been on the same 27 inch monitor since 05 when flat panel monitors came out. WTF Do I need a touchscreen for?

Windows 8 will suck.

Arclight
06-03-11, 02:31 AM
All I can think about is how icky the screen is going to get from all that touching. Especially if you're eating Cheetohs while computing. :nope:
That. I have no desire to clean a monitor every bloody day. (can't stand prints at all. If you want to piss me off, come over and just touch the screen ever so slightly, never fails :lol:)

Couldn't care less about Win8. My PC is not a tablet.

HunterICX
06-03-11, 04:00 AM
That. I have no desire to clean a monitor every bloody day. (can't stand prints at all. If you want to piss me off, come over and just touch the screen ever so slightly, never fails :lol:)

just had to....

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2694/d22537e3a6f44f899572286.jpg

HunterICX

the_tyrant
06-03-11, 05:41 AM
:haha:
that was a good one

NEON DEON
06-10-11, 04:44 PM
At this rate, I will still be alive for windows 58;)