[WIP] Subnets

[TheDarkWraith]

Following along with the work on Icebergs and mines I have made subnets available for use in the game. They can be included in campaigns and single missions.

As with the icebergs and mines, the subnets cannot be destroyed with bullets or torpedoes. Torpedoes go right through the net also :shifty: This has to be because the 3D model is located in a .dat file rather than a .GR2 file.

Your sub will collide with the nets and when it does it makes a collision noise. If you persist to 'get through' the net you will eventually but it will be VERY slow and you will make loud collision noises that can be heard over hydrophone. Think of your net cutters on the bow doing their job and cutting through the net when you're doing this.

Here is a shot of 3 subnets from the Total Germany campaign. This is just to show that they can be added to campaigns. You'll find these 3 just past the mouth of the harbor:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=285&pictureid=3604


And here is a playable demo to see them in action. The demo includes a single mission and the Total Germany campaign has them added (but in an unrealistic and bad place - just for demo purposes): http://www.filefront.com/17862321/TDW-Subnets.7z/

Now I will work on making coastal defenses :DL

:|\\

[PL_Andrev]

Your sub will collide with the nets and when it does it makes a collision noise. If you persist to 'get through' the net you will eventually but it will be VERY slow and you will make loud collision noises that can be heard over hydrophone.

Does it mean that escort hear me when I'll hit at the sub net???
Really they will hear me??
:o

[TheDarkWraith]

Does it mean that escort hear me when I'll hit at the sub net???
Really they will hear me??
:o

they should. Just as when you collide with anything it makes noise and everyone nearby hears it. Do a test mission and see.

[PL_Andrev]

they should. Just as when you collide with anything it makes noise and everyone nearby hears it. Do a test mission and see.

Of course this is a best idea... but at the other thread someone works at mod to put uboat directly on the sea floor.
Do you think that the noise when uboat is moving over the sea floor is possible to do and create it as "possible to hear" by escort ships?

[TheDarkWraith]

just did a test mission to see if escort could hear you hitting subnet....he couldn't :nope: BUT I know why :DL The collision sound has no underwater component and it doesn't have a sonar target associated with it. Trying to rectify now :yep:

EDIT:

didn't do anything :shifty:

[TheDarkWraith]

just looking into coastal defenses and noticed that they are already in SH5! They even have GR2 models :D We just need to add Roster entries for countries other than Germany and we can add coastal defenses to harbors.

Well that one was easy. What do you think about searchlights on the shore? :hmmm:

[longam]

just looking into coastal defenses and noticed that they are already in SH5! They even have GR2 models :D We just need to add Roster entries for countries other than Germany and we can add coastal defenses to harbors.

Well that one was easy. What do you think about searchlights on the shore? :hmmm:

That would add some environment to the game, sounds great!

Subnets : Damage to the sub, what is the rate for hitting a net? Can they sink you?

[TheDarkWraith]

That would add some environment to the game, sounds great!

Subnets : Damage to the sub, what is the rate for hitting a net? Can they sink you?

I'm not exactly sure how much damage they inflict, if any at all :hmmm: Probably some damage as you are coliding with a (HUGE mass wise) ship in disguise as a subnet.

[THE_MASK]

just looking into coastal defenses and noticed that they are already in SH5! They even have GR2 models :D We just need to add Roster entries for countries other than Germany and we can add coastal defenses to harbors.

Well that one was easy. What do you think about searchlights on the shore? :hmmm:Travelling out from bunker at night and serch lights come on when enemy bombers appear :rock: Air raid sirens connected to the search lights :rock:

[longam]

I'm not exactly sure how much damage they inflict, if any at all :hmmm: Probably some damage as you are coliding with a (HUGE mass wise) ship in disguise as a subnet.

Yes, most likely they would just hang up a sub causing grief and nothing more.

[TheDarkWraith]

Travelling out from bunker at night and serch lights come on when enemy bombers appear :rock: Air raid sirens connected to the search lights :rock:

Yes that would be cool. Ok, I'll have to work on that next :yep: But that'll come after I pickup my new AR-15 from Gander Mountain :rock: :D

[THE_MASK]

Yes that would be cool. Ok, I'll have to work on that next :yep: But that'll come after I pickup my new AR-15 from Gander Mountain :rock: :DAR-15 , ok no more requests :o

[TheDarkWraith]

AR-15 , ok no more requests :o

DPMS model...2 X 30 round clips...chambered for .223 and 5.56 rounds (military)...Beautiful weapon...ultimate in home defense, varmint hunting, small/medium game. Next gun I'm going to buy is a DPMS .338 Federal. Good long range capability, serious knockdown/killing power, and another beautiful weapon :yep:

Just learned that 30-06 AP ammo is not illegal to buy/own in US....now have to locate some :D

Be back soon :up:

[TheDarkWraith]

From my work on importing SH3/4 ships into SH5 I've figured out how the game determines the damage/collision model. From this knowledge the subnets now don't let the sub or anything else for that matter pass through them :rock: Torpedoes are now stopped by the subnets :|\\

This (along with destroyable mines) will make Zedi a happy man as he is adding them to the campaign.

[stoianm]

awsome... that means we can destroy the mines with torpedoes also?

EDIT: i just readed in the mines thread that will be posible... awsome

[TheDarkWraith]

awsome... that means we can destroy the mines with torpedoes also?

EDIT: i just readed in the mines thread that will be posible... awsome

In theory yes you should. I will try it and report back.

[Budds]

Great Stuff......

How about will the Net take damage... ie... Blow holes in the net ?
Are they "Permently stationary", or do they drift, move, open, close ?

Nets and Mines,,,, Damn I was just making progress... now I gotta watch out for these !
:)

[TheDarkWraith]

Yes the mines can be destroyed with torpedoes also :D

The subets are stationary. They don't drift or move. You cannot shoot holes in them either. Basically they are indestructible and will pose serious problems for you (along with the mines) that Zedi is adding into campaign :rock:

[stoianm]

Yes the mines can be destroyed with torpedoes also :D

The subets are stationary. They don't drift or move. You cannot shoot holes in them either. Basically they are indestructible and will pose serious problems for you (along with the mines) that Zedi is adding into campaign :rock::rock:... i think we need maps fr the mines... and pls do not make the IRAI more evil than now... untill we will have the chance to hunt convoys we must to return to base to repair our uboat:DL... how is the mines damage?

[TheDarkWraith]

:rock:... i think we need maps fr the mines... and pls do not make the IRAI more evil than now... untill we will have the chance to hunt convoys we must to return to base to repair our uboat:DL... how is the mines damage?

Zedi is working on making maps for the mines (at least he told me he was trying to find maps for them).

What do you mean by the mines damage :06:

[stoianm]

Zedi is working on making maps for the mines (at least he told me he was trying to find maps for them).

What do you mean by the mines damage :06:
when i will hit a mine by misteake... what kind of damage i will have?... the hull part i am more concerning... and i hope that the others sistems to not be destroyed at 100% also:timeout:

[TheDarkWraith]

when i will hit a mine by misteake... what kind of damage i will have?... the hull part i am more concerning... and i hope that the others sistems to not be destroyed at 100% also:timeout:

Zedi has asked that I tame the mine damage down. I'm working on that now. He doesn't want the mines taking you out but rather causing some serious damage that will require you to return to base to get fixed.

[stoianm]

Zedi has asked that I tame the mine damage down. I'm working on that now. He doesn't want the mines taking you out but rather causing some serious damage that will require you to return to base to get fixed.
good ideea... tnx and tnx zedi also for the time spended to add these in campaigns:salute:

[stoianm]

If we will have icebergs on the campaign also in the new MO (and the crew can not spot them) i was thinking to make a map for each campaign with the iceberg position... but i dunno where i can add this... and i dunno if is a good ideea... not to immersive

[TheDarkWraith]

If we will have icebergs on the campaign also in the new MO (and the crew can not spot them) i was thinking to make a map for each campaign with the iceberg position... but i dunno where i can add this... and i dunno if is a good ideea... not to immersive

I'm going to add sound to them. I just haven't gotten to that point yet. I've figured out so much in so little time that I'm having to go back and redo a lot of my mods :cool:

[johan_d]

AR15 for homedefense? how unsafe is the US?

[TheDarkWraith]

AR15 for homedefense? how unsafe is the US?

2nd amendment right in the US Constitution to bear arms. I'm just not allowed to own a fully automatic weapon of any kind (unless I apply for a Federal Firearms License [FFL]). I feel sorry for those countries where you're not allowed to own firearms. How do you protect yourself from others/government?

US is pretty safe in general due to citizens right to bear arms. There are only two states in the US where you're not allowed to have a concealed weapon. Most states have concealed carry or right to carry.

[7thSeal]

I'm just not allowed to own a fully automatic weapon of any kind (unless I apply for a Federal Firearms License [FFL]).

My brother built an AR15 and I found the easiest way to make it auto is to place your thumb in front of the trigger and hook your thumb on your belt loop. Pull forward on the gun and you'll go through 30 rounds in a matter of seconds. Takes awhile to get use to it to be able to hit anything though. :DL

[TheDarkWraith]

My brother built an AR15 and I found the easiest way to make it auto is to place your thumb in front of the trigger and hook your thumb on your belt loop. Pull forward on the gun and you'll go through 30 rounds in a matter of seconds. Takes awhile to get use to it to be able to hit anything though. :DL

Do a web search for lightning link ;)

[7thSeal]

:salute:

An eotech tops off his AR15, both eyes open and targets acquired very rapid. :)

[SashaKA001]

you're talking about it :har::har::har:


http://secretsocietynyc.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hello-kitty-ar-15-rifle-2.jpg

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2008/january/hellokitty_ar15assault_2.jpg
http://files.sharenator.com/AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine_Firearms_Super_Redneck_Ed ition-s800x390-92918.jpg

[marleymen]

2nd amendment right in the US Constitution to bear arms. I'm just not allowed to own a fully automatic weapon of any kind (unless I apply for a Federal Firearms License [FFL]). I feel sorry for those countries where you're not allowed to own firearms. How do you protect yourself from others/government?

US is pretty safe in general due to citizens right to bear arms. There are only two states in the US where you're not allowed to have a concealed weapon. Most states have concealed carry or right to carry.

I think you´re a talented modder TDW but here I´m not agree. Reason and words are stronger than arms. Only authorities should carry them. In Spain you´re not allowed to carry firearms and it´s very safe too.
Don´t want to discuss here so this will be my only message about anything not related to SH5 or subsims.

[gap]

How do you protect yourself from others/government?

LOL :o
TDW are you sort of anarchic?!! I don't want to get in your private life, but until now I used to think that you were enlisted in the army, or a law enforcement agent. :D

I think you´re a talented modder TDW but here I´m not agree. Reason and words are stronger than arms. Only authorities should carry them. In Spain you´re not allowed to carry firearms and it´s very safe too.
Don´t want to discuss here so this will be my only message about anything not related to SH5 or subsims.

Agreed 100%! With all the due respect, I think we should keep this space free from firearms, and concentrate solely on virtual artillery, torpedoes, bombs, mines, etc.
I am yet busy trying to explain my friends and relatives why recently my HD is so full of nazi U-boot pictures and german svastikas... if they discover that I am taking part in a discussion about homemade automatic rifles, I risk seriously to be compelled by them to attend psycological counselling... ;)

[7thSeal]

Only authorities should carry them.

And you're done as told... quite different in the US lol.

[Teiwaz]

And you're done as told... quite different in the US lol.

Ahm...yeah...sure :yawn:

As if only people with guns can be against the government - or let's say have different opinions than the government (or politicians at all) :damn:

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0809/gun-ownership-demotivational-poster-1221603758.jpg

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

I know, all fake and lies...
At least I'm happy to live in a country which does not allow every F-ing retard to own a F-ing (MILITARY) WEAPON!

[Zedi]

If in US is allowed to carry guns to protect yourself against the government, thats sound like a dream land. :yeah:

Anyway, since TDW is playing with guns.. I lost track on him, complete silence on all channels. Hope he is alright ...

[Budds]

I am yet busy trying to explain my friends and relatives why recently my HD is so full of nazi U-boot pictures and german svastikas... if they discover that I am taking part in a discussion about homemade automatic rifles, I risk seriously to be compelled by them to attend psycological counselling... ;)


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Thats having to EXPLAIN !
:D

http://virtualf16.20m.com/custom2.html

And you Thought YOU had it Bad....
:cool:

[Teiwaz]

He spent better than a week being "Interviewed" with no access to Lawyer, or outside contact...... Nobody knew what happened.... he just "Disappeared".

God bless America, the state of freedom and human rights...:damn:

[oscar19681]

I remember being in a Group of Hardcore Combat Flight Sim Guys, and we Used Falcon 4.0.... a pretty Damn Cool F-16 Sim !!!!!
For those with the disposable cash, you could get a Full Fiberglass Replica of the F-16 Cockpit... Open/Closing Canopy, ACES II ejection Seat the whole Nine Yards !!!

:cool:

Oh man i can see it right now, the girlfriend starts nagging again about playing a sim , but with that you can just pull the ejection seat if the nagging becomes to close for comfort!!