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Sbygneus
12-16-10, 02:15 AM
Ahoy!
I have bought a copy of SHIII recently. I never played it before.
(My first subsim was SH5 with which I am fairly dissapointed at the moment - the lack of some environmental effects and unstable enemy AI being major factors)
I read there are two mega mods available here for SH3 game. GWX and NYGM. Which one would you recommend?
My priorities are:
1. environment graphics - especially arctic areas (icebergs and such)
2. number of ships available
3. random enemy AI

Please, help to decide

Volk2
12-16-10, 06:01 AM
Graphics - I prefer GWX with OLC environment, but there is very good Manos environment for NYGM.

Ships - I don't know if GWX has more ships (it is probable), the thing that I know is that in GWX the ships have new, high resolution textures, so it is more demanding for PC and NYGM is much faster, while the ships still are looking quite good.

Enemy AI - NYGM is known to be very polished in 'realistic' AI behaviour, but GWX is also good :D

So I propose to try GWX & NYGM :O:

irish1958
12-16-10, 09:20 AM
I agree with the above; do both with dual installs and use SH3Multi-Install.
LivingSH3 (V.5)is also a good megamod and is worth a good look.
I have all three, but I prefer GXW (duh).:woot:

Sailor Steve
12-16-10, 11:11 AM
I read there are two mega mods available here for SH3 game. GWX and NYGM. Which one would you recommend?
Actually there are four that I can think of, and maybe more.

GWX
LSH3
NYGM
WAC

My priorities are:
1. environment graphics - especially arctic areas (icebergs and such)
GWX, and maybe LSH3

2. number of ships available
GWX, LSH3 and WAC all shine in that department, with NYGM not far behind.

This is all offset by the Merchant Fleet Pack mod from Iambecomelife. If your computer can handle it this gives you 40 new freighter types and 19 new tankers.

3. random enemy AI
NYGM probably comes out on top here, but GWX has a lot of work in this department as well, so there are fun debates we can have.

Please, help to decide
The best thing to do is get Multi-SH3, which makes it easy to have multiple installations of the game and figure out which one you like the best.

Whatever you end up using, be sure to get SH3 Commander. It works with any mod, and will change the game in ways you can't imagine.

Also someone started a thread similar to this one just a few days ago. You will find more answers here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=177926

Dowly
12-16-10, 12:13 PM
...so there are fun debates we can have.

Yes, very fun debates. :haha:

Sbygneus
12-16-10, 12:26 PM
Thank you guys for replies!
I think I will do as you suggested. I shall make a multi instal, and then figure out.
Just one last question:
What is this SH3 Commander?

Dowly
12-16-10, 12:38 PM
What is this SH3 Commander?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147237

Jimbuna
12-16-10, 01:17 PM
Yes, very fun debates. :haha:

LOL :DL

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 08:05 AM
I need some help with GWX3 instalation. I have a clean SH3 instalation version 1.4b. I have downloaded all 8 GWX3 files to one folder. How do I run GWX.exe? If I duoble-click it Windows asks me with what program to open the file. this GWX3.exe file icon does look like others bin files
Did I miss something?

Madox58
12-18-10, 10:35 AM
right click the gwx file with no extension and rename it to gwx3.exe
:yep:

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 10:55 AM
right click the gwx file with no extension and rename it to gwx3.exe
:yep:

Thanks, I am idiot:88) :DL

Sailor Steve
12-18-10, 11:23 AM
Thanks, I am idiot:88) :DL
If you are, you have lots of company. Not very many of us figured that out without being told. :sunny:

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 11:49 AM
Unfortunately, there is another problem.
I cant instal GWX3 gold. I got a message that the unmofified SH3 version 1.4 is required. This is my first instalation of sh3 and it is definitely 1.4 version. Is because of my Polish subtitled version of the game. Or maybe I shouldnt Play the stock game at all before installing GWX3- which I did for a few minutes?

Madox58
12-18-10, 12:45 PM
You don't have JSGME installed do you?
:hmmm:

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 01:18 PM
No I don't. I had it before, but I uninstalled it together with SH5.
I reinstalled SH3 again and still no luck.
I read on other forums about guys who play GWX3 gold with the same Polish version I have (it is already patched to version 1.4b). Some of them have the same problem, the others say instalation went smoothly. There seem to be strange problem...

Madox58
12-18-10, 01:54 PM
Do you have SH3 Commander installed?

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 02:09 PM
No, I havent. I downloaded it already, but not installed. I read this should be done later.

Madox58
12-18-10, 02:17 PM
Error message 2 comes from finding certain files left from an old install of GWX.
Look in the Sea folder for AC-4 and delete it if there.
Look in the Library folder for Bootsmann.dat and WHL.dat and delete if there.
Look in the Sound folder for P20_@Hedgehog_deepwater.wav and delete it if there.
Look in the Land folder for Statue.cfg delete it if there.

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 02:39 PM
no, they are not there

Madox58
12-18-10, 02:44 PM
OK.
The installer will also throw this same error message if you do not point it to the correct folder with your SH3 install.

When it asks where you want to install it, select the browse button and find the correct folder.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Change_Install.jpg

Sbygneus
12-18-10, 05:32 PM
YES! This was it! THANK YOU PRIVATEER!
When I pressed browse and chose the path it has installed - even if it was the same path that was written earlier!
Windows is driven by magic - I always knew it!:DL
Now to instal SH3 commander...
Privateeer how did you find this sollution?

Madox58
12-18-10, 05:42 PM
Glad your sorted Mate!
:rock:
I wrote the installer so I know it better then anyone.
:03:

Please pass the information to others that may have problems.
:up:

It's very easy to just click and go.
BUT everyone needs to read the screens and understand what and where they are installing to.
:yep:

Oh, and tell everyone to turn the Volume up loud!
It helps the install.
:haha:
:salute:

There is also a back door to extract all the files.
:o
But I'll not give the 'Key' out.
:haha:

Jimbuna
12-19-10, 02:29 PM
There is also a back door to extract all the files.
:o
But I'll not give the 'Key' out.
:haha:

Never worked for me mate :nope:

Madox58
12-19-10, 02:46 PM
You Sir, have a PM.
:O:

Jimbuna
12-19-10, 03:07 PM
Sorted http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Sbygneus
12-20-10, 04:53 AM
I have started SH3 campaign with GWX3 gold mod and OLC environment.
I am impressed about the work you guys have done. The game doesnt really look for its years, and with these mods it is far better then SH5 in its current shape. I would like to thank all the modders :up:

I have started a campaign in 14th flotilla (I hope I remembered correct) with VIIc in 1940.
I have some questions about the gameplay and game configuration:
1. where is a gyrocompas in OLC GUI mod - I cant find it
2. Is there a way to increase a game resolution?
3. Have I chosen a right flotilla to have missions in the Arctic waters?
4. I am especially interested in Arctic campaigns. Should I install any additional submods to GWX3 in order to make it look even better.
Maybe there is a mod that adds Arctic missions, environmental gadgets?

Sbygneus
12-21-10, 02:33 AM
Sorry for bothering, I solved all four points myself.:cool: