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keltos01
12-08-10, 01:51 PM
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9770/surcouf2.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/surcouf2.jpg/)



Phase two

Checked conning tower and aft deck in detail, some slight squaring noticed in the deck texture but not noticable at any distance. Conning tower looks great. All operations hot straight and normal.

Signing off as functional, and ready for sea.

regards

AdmVGhttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7406/conningtowerreview.jpg

This is by no means the last version of the mod ;)

I still want to change/improve :

- the periscope view : a view through a WWII french periscope would be tops, one through a later (1950s) would be ok

- I still need to make the turret change texture at the same time (July 1, 1942) as the hull and tower

- I need to change the torpedo picture in the loadout screen : the smaller torp is ok for the v24 but the v26 should be a long thin torpedo

- I need to make a TMO patch for her too

Any and all constructive criticism is welcome, people just venting off are not ;)



this mod would not have been possible without :



the sponsoring of Hautpoul on the forum mille sabords (http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?showforum=167) who payed for the Surcouf 3d model on Turbosquid


the unrelenting help of my dear friend Peabody, who selflessly made the twin 8 inch gun and helped me tweak the various versions



download Surcouf v 1.6.5 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/c0jw532qxc3u3rn/Surcouf%20v1.6.5.7z

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3391/aagunview.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/aagunview.jpg/)

new AA gun view, includes the new scope view and set to 40° FOV too :

Surcouf v 1.7.8 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/r1sa3y...uf%20v1.7.8.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/r1sa3y93m0xqmx2/Surcouf%20v1.7.8.7z)


regards,

Keltos

Krauter
12-08-10, 04:02 PM
Congratulations on the release of this mod Keltos!

After watching this Mod and the Modern Subs page extensively for the last few weeks it's made me wish I didn't buy a Mac for school :(

Anyways, hopefully I can find a cheap CPU to run Sh4 which is still alive and kicking with these great Mods!

keltos01
12-08-10, 05:03 PM
Congratulations on the release of this mod Keltos!

After watching this Mod and the Modern Subs page extensively for the last few weeks it's made me wish I didn't buy a Mac for school :(

Anyways, hopefully I can find a cheap CPU to run Sh4 which is still alive and kicking with these great Mods!

you can always install a second os on a mac :yep: reverse is not true on a pc !

virtua PC or something like that, I got both a mac and a pc at home

keltos

Krauter
12-08-10, 05:15 PM
I can always run a second OS, the problem is getting said OS. On a student budget, paying 200+ for Windows 7 is quite pricey.

keltos01
12-08-10, 05:22 PM
I can always run a second OS, the problem is getting said OS. On a student budget, paying 200+ for Windows 7 is quite pricey.

sure is.. I use win XP

Krauter
12-08-10, 05:24 PM
Hmm.. maybe I can get one as an X-mas gift :hmmm:

Jan Kyster
12-08-10, 06:51 PM
She's alive! :rock:

Big congratulations!

This is by no means the last version of the mod ;)No, that would certainly be very hard to imagine... :shifty: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/biggrin.gif

- I need to make a TMO patch for her too
Oh yes! Please do! :up:


Hmm.. maybe I can get one as an X-mas gift :hmmm:Why not? I happens to have some floating around... PM me if you want one.

Krauter
12-08-10, 07:33 PM
Perhaps I'll send you a PM, I'm able to find time to game again, I may have to hold off :D

Swabbie
12-09-10, 12:16 AM
Wow, what beast this boat is! :rock:

Like how you did the dive planes. I took her out on a couple of long patrols and had no problems with her at all. She seems to be working just fine so far.

Admiral Von Gerlach
12-09-10, 01:39 AM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8473/surcoufatflankspeed.jpg

Surcouf at Flank Speed on Sea Trials

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1267/surcoufatsea.jpg

Surcouf at Sea - A beautiful ship with a bone in her teeth

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2843/surcoufatseaportside.jpg

Surcouf's Main Battery of 8" Guns - This Tiger has Teeth

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2444/surcoufportsideaft.jpg

View Port Side looknig forward

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7149/sunsetonthesurcouf2.jpg

Sunset on the Surcouf

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6267/sunsetonthesurcouf.jpg

Bon Yoyage....and Tres Bien! Monsieur Kelto! Bravo.

keltos01
12-09-10, 01:46 AM
Admiral, Thank You Sir !

A pleasure working with you and thanks for the sea trials you did for me ;)

regards

keltos

Admiral Von Gerlach
12-09-10, 04:09 AM
The pleasure is mine as well sir, working with a shipwright as gifted and visionary as yourself is truly a pleasure to warm the heart of any seafarer. Call on me for trials any time.:salute:

keltos01
12-09-10, 05:08 PM
Surcouf 1944

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5715/surcouf1944.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/surcouf1944.jpg/)

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/184/periscope2.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/periscope2.jpg/)
RL WWII french periscope view

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7755/periscopemask1024.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/periscopemask1024.jpg/)

working on the view

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9568/frenchperiscope.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/frenchperiscope.jpg/)



thinner crosshairs than v 1.0, looks better, feels better ;)

v 1.1
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ug0d3uccc2osxb3/french%20periscope%20patch%20v1.1.7z



keltos

keltos01
12-15-10, 03:33 AM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7329/frenchaaview.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/frenchaaview.jpg/)

gun's viewpoint : DCA 37 mm mle 1925


http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4232/frenchaagun.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/frenchaagun.jpg/)


the gun itself (WIP)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5576/frenchaaview3.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/frenchaaview3.jpg/)

general view

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4323/frenchsurcouf.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/frenchsurcouf.jpg/)


mod with new AA gun 37 mm mle 1925 :

download Surcouf v 1.6.9 :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u0wl03f9y08f...ouf%20v1.6.9.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/u0wl03f9y08f9vi/Surcouf%20v1.6.9.7z)

Rockin Robbins
12-15-10, 03:34 PM
What a monster sub. It's ugly/beautiful/awesome, like the German Gotha bombers of WWI. In real life, just about as successful (not!), but that sub has more character than a fleet of U-Boats and US submarines combined. Take a bow Keltos, it's a masterpiece!:D

ReallyDedPoet
12-15-10, 04:32 PM
Very nice :yep:

keltos01
12-16-10, 07:11 AM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3875/aa2aa.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/aa2aa.jpg/)
new AA gun mle 1925 37mm semi automatic


for the weekend with 2 new 3d models for the 24v and 26v torpedoes ;)


Surcouf v 1.7.1 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4d4v2nv8n8drdl9/Surcouf%20v1.7.1.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/iqfor7bpmbnw0xt/Surcouf%20v1.7.0.7z)


keltos

Kongo Otto
12-16-10, 03:19 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3875/aa2aa.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/aa2aa.jpg/)
new AA gun mle 1925 37mm semi automatic


for the weekend with 2 new 3d models for the 24v and 26v torpedoes ;)


Surcouf v 1.7.1 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4d4v2nv8n8drdl9/Surcouf%20v1.7.1.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/iqfor7bpmbnw0xt/Surcouf%20v1.7.0.7z)


keltos

If i take a look on a Original C.A.S (Canon de anti aviation simple) 37mm mle 1925 like this one:
http://www.abload.de/img/37cmcafrenchvgl2.jpg
and take a look your Sub Guns, i see true Perfectionism.
:salute:

Super Job!!

:salute:

keltos01
12-17-10, 03:49 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4052/loadoute.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/loadoute.jpg/)

done.

24v longer than its US counterparts (though not as much as it should be..)

26v thinner and shorter

patch Surcouf v1.7.1 to v1.7.2 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/fca9a7z10oiz...20to%201.7.2.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/fca9a7z10oiz2l5/Surcouf%20patch%201.7.1%20to%201.7.2.7z)



:)

keltos

Swabbie
12-17-10, 04:51 PM
This boat has quickly become one of my favorites and she just keeps getting better and better.

Merci Keltos01

keltos01
12-22-10, 07:43 AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3774/gunfight.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/gunfight.jpg/)

Gunfight ! :arrgh!:

in this picture her two aft batteries just spat four shells at me ! the other two are two of mine heading her way ;)


[edit] the log logged only 22 sunk ships when I sank an additionnal two battlehips and one aircraft carrier...


Surcouf v 1.7.5 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k5625q33xc1nm57/Surcouf%20v1.7.5.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/7zj7oaauek5aen5/Surcouf%20v1.7.4.7z)

L.T
12-23-10, 06:44 AM
One thing. How did you get information on chush depth etc. I have been browsing all over the net and cant find any information about depth and chush depth. I can find loads of information about test depth of 80m, but nothing else.....

Anyone who have the complete set of data on this boat and who can post it???

This sub is my dream come true, this have it all.....

Just realy cant find a complete set of data on her.....

awsome job and merry X-mas:woot:

L.T
Denmark

keltos01
12-23-10, 07:08 AM
[QUOTE=L.T;1559148]One thing. How did you get information on chush depth etc. I have been browsing all over the net and cant find any information about depth and chush depth. I can find loads of information about test depth of 80m, but nothing else.....

hautpoul on the french forum gave me lots of intel

http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=42334

Anyone who have the complete set of data on this boat and who can post it???

This sub is my dream come true, this have it all.....
:D yes but beware of planes : got sunk twice coming back from my first misssion to Japan yesterday, I thought those two 37 mm could take on planes... :doh:

Just realy cant find a complete set of data on her.....

awsome job and merry X-mas:woot:
thanks! you too

keltos

L.T
Denmark

keltos01
01-07-11, 04:44 AM
Here's a new periscope view for the Surcouf :

FOV adjusted to 40° at low power (1.1 x)
FOV adjusted to 7.6° (not the rl 6.0°) at high power(6.0 x)

download (jsgme ready):

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zs0lwbfvr883...0FOV%2040%B0.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zs0lwbfvr883u44/Surcouf%20periscope%20FOV%2040%B0.7z)

Jan Kyster
01-07-11, 05:21 AM
Where to find 1.7.8? :hmmm:

keltos01
01-07-11, 05:55 AM
Where to find 1.7.8? :hmmm:

Surcouf v 1.7.8 :
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3391/aagunview.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/aagunview.jpg/)

new AA gun view, includes the new scope view and set to 40° FOV too :

Surcouf v 1.7.8 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/r1sa3y93m0xqmx2/Surcouf%20v1.7.8.7z

keltos

Jan Kyster
01-08-11, 01:05 AM
Thank you, captain! :salute:

Was looking on your filefront account! :D

keltos01
01-08-11, 03:08 AM
Thank you, captain! :salute:

Was looking on your filefront account! :D

I quit using filefront when they didn't accept that files be set to private anymore.

Then i set up the mediafire account which hosts most of my most recent mods,

but for the IJN Jyunsen B v 3.9.9.9.9.3 which is on filefront : mediafire has a size limit and that one's 312 mb !

Now two things :

french never had radar on the Surcouf (which is maybe why it collided with an american ship...

french didn't have a TDC... so if and when the British Fruit machine comes I'll set it up in the mod, and set the torpedoes to 0° angle instead of the 15° for the 24v.

note : the small 26v torpedoes can turn 180° to mimic the use of turrets, so you can fire at ships in front of you with the stern tubes !

just take into account that the torp won't fire straight at the enemy but has to turn first.

keltos

Axlwolf
01-08-11, 05:06 AM
The Surcouf!One of my favourite sub!
I would love to try it.It is compatible with Trigger Maru Overhaul?
Thanks for your mod! :yeah:

keltos01
01-08-11, 05:24 AM
The Surcouf!One of my favourite sub!
I would love to try it.It is compatible with Trigger Maru Overhaul?
Thanks for your mod! :yeah:

It should be soon, right now it is not.

regards

keltos

Arael
01-08-11, 01:32 PM
Looks really good. All you need to do now is to find someone to modify the 3d model to fit the i-507. Then you can put it into your "Climb Mount Niitaka" campaign as an Easter Egg.

Fritz Klum
10-21-12, 03:09 PM
This submarine looks to be very well done keltos01. Would you mind if I used it in a mod I'm planning called Silent Frenchie? The mod is about the (Fictional) exploits of this boat in the pacific.

USS Sea Tiger
06-16-13, 06:43 AM
Hello all
I am running Sillent hunter IV, 1.5, Wolfs version ,. I placed Surcouf 1.7.8 into the mods folder and then I cleared out all mods and added only the Surcouf file via JSGME. I cannot find the Surcouf in game.

Please, where is she?

Rammstein0991
05-18-14, 10:41 PM
Wondering the same myself, Kinda disappointed that there's no how-to on getting it to work :shifty:

Admiral Von Gerlach
05-22-14, 07:43 PM
Hello i learned you are having problems locating the ship in the sim, once loaded. I will have to review my files and contact the fellow who made her, to see if i can help you, it has been a while since i tested this fine ship. Will try to help out.

Rammstein0991
07-28-14, 10:30 PM
Good to know, thanks :up:

Bonden
07-30-14, 09:34 PM
Really nice ship here Keltos - great job on the mod :up:

Bonden
07-30-14, 09:43 PM
Try looking in one of the quick/single missions - i found it in there. Haven't tried to start a career yet but i intend to very soon - like in 10 minutes...

Cheers

arnauld
10-07-14, 05:45 PM
Tried this mod. Wonderful!:up:

bell117
03-18-15, 04:27 PM
In game the boat's skin is black, and the whole conning tower is missing, I play with trigger maru, but I don't think that would affect it, is this normal, or one-
off?

HertogJan
03-18-15, 05:38 PM
How does it look without TMO?

bell117
03-18-15, 09:18 PM
It looks fine without, although "fine" is relative, as in some things still don't work right, but overall works, just wondering, is there a way to fix for TMO, cause I would really rather play with it on, but not essential though. The files that is affecting it would be fine, but the jsgme says that only the torpedoe and campaign files are conflicting so I don't what the problem is.

keltos01
03-26-15, 05:20 PM
:yeah:

Was not designed for tmo...

K

bell117
03-29-15, 12:01 PM
oh ok, it's just that TMO isn't really the mod that I thought would conflict with the sub, I mean the only files that conflict are the torpedoes.

nrnstraswa
03-29-15, 11:58 PM
Thank you for releasing this interesting submarine. Could we possibly get more French subs like the Redoutable or Sirene class please?

general rampage 1776
05-27-15, 01:10 PM
its a beautiful sub but does it have historical ammo? i dont want to shoot the gun twice and it run out of ammo...... please have like 600 HE and 400 AP but could you add a little 3-6 inch rear gun please???

SwissSubCommander
02-14-17, 11:13 AM
Does this need U-boat missions or any other mod to work? When I try to install it on a clean SH4 1.4 i get CTD. Help please, I so wanna see this sub ingame.

keltos01
02-14-17, 01:55 PM
Does this need U-boat missions or any other mod to work? When I try to install it on a clean SH4 1.4 i get CTD. Help please, I so wanna see this sub ingame.

no, it uses the american side so it should work on stock fully upgraded.

and yes the ammo does accurately inflict damage ! it was an underwater cruiser after all !

keltos

brotato1337
02-19-17, 01:00 PM
Is it intentional that i cant change the torpedo loadout?

keltos01
02-19-17, 03:41 PM
Some torpedoes are small diameter size (on swiveling turrets) others are normal size (bow tubes)

haven't played it in a looong time so I'm not sure..

use the guns !:D

brotato1337
02-19-17, 03:47 PM
ah, ok, little hard to gunfight a battleship though (please make a FOTRS version)

keltos01
02-19-17, 06:21 PM
The FOTRSU team is welcome to make a patch, though the sub was historically sunk before it could be used.. it did partecipate in the freeing of St pierre et miquelon

keltos01
02-20-17, 11:30 AM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8473/surcoufatflankspeed.jpg

Surcouf at Flank Speed on Sea Trials

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1267/surcoufatsea.jpg

Surcouf at Sea - A beautiful ship with a bone in her teeth

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2843/surcoufatseaportside.jpg

Surcouf's Main Battery of 8" Guns - This Tiger has Teeth

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2444/surcoufportsideaft.jpg

View Port Side looknig forward

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7149/sunsetonthesurcouf2.jpg

Sunset on the Surcouf

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6267/sunsetonthesurcouf.jpg

Bon Yoyage....and Tres Bien! Monsieur Keltos! Bravo.

Love all my boats.. but this one is special.. as is the T Class.. the Adua.. the Jyunsen B and the Sen Taka (best of all!)

propbeanie
02-20-17, 12:46 PM
Love all my boats.. but this one is special.. as is the T Class.. the Adua.. the Jyunsen B and the Sen Taka (best of all!)
That Sen Taka is ~unreal~ underwater... wow. Looks weird on the navigation map, at 1x TC even... :lol: it looks like you're doing like 16x TC :yeah:

DicheBach
03-21-17, 02:10 PM
Gonna have to try this, but I'm deep into an FOTRSU career so it might be a while before I build up the willpower to get it installed and running for a stock match.

Would it work for a stock career, or just for missions?

keltos01
03-21-17, 04:10 PM
Gonna have to try this, but I'm deep into an FOTRSU career so it might be a while before I build up the willpower to get it installed and running for a stock match.

Would it work for a stock career, or just for missions?

it works for a stock career

might even for the FOTRSU..

report if you try it !

k

general rampage 1776
10-24-17, 01:29 PM
Surcouf:
has 2 eight inch 50 cal guns
she also packs a boat load of torps
she has 2 powerfull yet slow AF 37MM aa guns
but she doesnt have the 4 13.2mm AA hotchkiss guns as she did in real life, if anyone on here is active anymore for SH4 can we get the guns?
also she looks good on the outside but the boat is still very flawed as you can see thru it on certain parts of the cruiser.

propbeanie
10-24-17, 02:00 PM
Are you talking about something like this beast?

http://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/machine/mg75/hotchkiss_1930_mag-fed2.jpg

I'm not sure there is anything like that in the game, but maybe there is. Would they mount where the 37mm are now? Do you know the time period when the guns would have been on the vessel? keltos01 has been rather busy with work lately, but he'll be along sometime and reply. I'm not sure what you're seeing with the "sea-through" portion, but are you certain you have all of the texture files where they're needed? Are you running it in Stock SH4? I'll have to load my copy up and see what I see...

general rampage 1776
11-22-17, 01:52 AM
yes those are a match, however the single guns looked much like a single 25mm AA gun, world of warships should give a good idea as to what the guns look like, im sure all 4 guns would have been installed in the rear of the boat

keltos01
11-23-17, 06:30 AM
Are you talking about something like this beast?

http://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/machine/mg75/hotchkiss_1930_mag-fed2.jpg

I'm not sure there is anything like that in the game, but maybe there is. Would they mount where the 37mm are now? Do you know the time period when the guns would have been on the vessel? keltos01 has been rather busy with work lately, but he'll be along sometime and reply. I'm not sure what you're seeing with the "sea-through" portion, but are you certain you have all of the texture files where they're needed? Are you running it in Stock SH4? I'll have to load my copy up and see what I see...

I made those guns for our japanese campaign, though nice with incendiary ammo, you wouldn't want to tackle plane with them ! :har:

propbeanie
11-23-17, 09:06 AM
I made those guns for our japanese campaign, though nice with incendiary ammo, you wouldn't want to tackle plane with them ! :har:
Are you talking about this one:

https://i.imgur.com/3tcQdAv.jpg

??

Where would four more guns mount though, on that little beast of a submarine? :salute:

TheLetterR
01-13-18, 09:10 PM
Are you talking about this one:

https://i.imgur.com/3tcQdAv.jpg

??

Where would four more guns mount though, on that little beast of a submarine? :salute:

Could make a "what if" upgraded Surcouf had she made it to the Pacific. (Which would make no sense since she would probably be upgraded using Oerlikons or Bofors maybe)

Any plans on continuing this project btw?

propbeanie
01-13-18, 10:49 PM
It's actually keltos01's mod, and he's been rather busy with real life. Somethin' 'bout a job he's got... :roll: but it is easy enough to add the guns. You don't happen to know where they went though, do you?... :salute:

TheLetterR
01-14-18, 11:20 PM
It's actually keltos01's mod, and he's been rather busy with real life. Somethin' 'bout a job he's got... :roll: but it is easy enough to add the guns. You don't happen to know where they went though, do you?... :salute:


Last I saw them was heading bearing 093 at 17 knots.

benji112
04-03-18, 10:22 AM
This is one of my favorite subs, and it looks great ingame, but is there a way to make it work with overhaul mods like real fleet boat?

propbeanie
04-03-18, 12:25 PM
The difficult part of making it work in one of the major mods is in the CareerStart & Flotilla UPC files, as well as entries for it in the PatrolObjectives.cfg file. It sits in the American side of things, so that tends to complicate things quite a bit... What is your "vision" of having it in the Campaign? She was enroute to Australia, traveling through the Caribbean Sea, enroute to the Panama Canal when lost...

rein1705
04-03-18, 07:56 PM
If she had made it to Australia, Working the Brisbane campaign would be great. I have TMO.... adding new boats or ships is hard.

benji112
04-03-18, 08:25 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1164&pictureid=9810well as of right now i can get it to work at all with Real Fleet boat,if i go to the external view, parts are missing, and in port, the aa is gone entirely

general rampage 1776
06-30-18, 01:09 AM
is there any way to get the 40mm bofors guns or at least 2 single 20mm AA guns on here? im getting tired of the 37mm M1925 guns, its like a german 3.7cm flak 30 but ****ty(er)

AMZ
07-30-18, 11:06 AM
Hello everyone

I thank Keltos for his remarkable work. it is a very beautiful Mod! :up:

and in the continuity of the above
I think that if the Surcouf would have continued his career after 1943, he would have benefited from a radical overhaul, like most of the French ships passed by US arsenals:

- Radar evolved so unnecessary seaplane.
- radar guided main guns
- the hangar would serve as a platform for reinforced AA (Double or Quadruple Bofors).
So nothing prevents to add

It would have a more effective corsair ... but still not a real submarine !
But it's its conception.
:)

AMZ

Aktungbby
08-02-18, 09:53 AM
AMZ!:Kaleun_Salute:

general rampage 1776
03-03-20, 05:04 PM
i see the files and see how someone got bofors on them, i want to know how to add different AA guns to them? i just want single 20's hell .50 HMG's would do the trick, the 37mm gun is probably worse or on par to the 37mm L/40 that the germans have on the Uboat

can someone tell me how to get diff AA guns? i get its an old post for a OLD GAME, but i want diff AA guns thats all

AMZ
09-23-20, 10:31 AM
i see the files and see how someone got bofors on them, i want to know how to add different AA guns to them? i just want single 20's hell .50 HMG's would do the trick, the 37mm gun is probably worse or on par to the 37mm L/40 that the germans have on the Uboat

can someone tell me how to get diff AA guns? i get its an old post for a OLD GAME, but i want diff AA guns thats all


Hi General,

Sorry for my late reply, I've only seen her now.

What version of the Surcouf submarine do you have?


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Is this version v1.7.8?
There are other versions : Clic here (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwidkOzSy__rAhVmBGMBHcQoAlYQFjADegQIBRAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mille-sabords.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw0HGZSgJlmmFy0ppiWbZ6qU)
The team continues to develop it : Clic to see (http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=54847&view=findpost&p=406371)

Depending on your version of the Mod, I could make your wishes come true !