Prince Harry [the real one] to wed

[Takeda Shingen]

But what struck me as odd is the report on the news this morning. It was clearly a borrowed report from a British agency where Kate Middleton was noted to be a commoner; a term that is not used at all stateside. I know that it is used to donte a person who is not attached to the Royal Family, but the way the reporter said it with a very hard emphais on the 'c', you'd think it was the 15th century and we was describing some peasant wench: 'And so the Prince will marry this commoner next year.'

Not disparaging the royals, but it is not something I was accustomed to hearing and it jumped out at me.

[Oberon]

:hmmm: I guess it's an official term to use to denote someone not of Royal descent. I guess to a nation not used to a class system as much as we are it would be a bit more jarring. Still, either which way good on Harry, he's a decent chap and will make a good King when the time comes, both him and his brother have more of the common touch about them than their elders, I think they inherited that from their mother who is someone that will be dearly missed on the big day.
Once upon a time this would be a big day in the UK with lots of bunting and that around, sadly I suspect that it will be a rather quiet affair. :damn:

[Takeda Shingen]

:hmmm: I guess it's an official term to use to denote someone not of Royal descent. I guess to a nation not used to a class system as much as we are it would be a bit more jarring. Still, either which way good on Harry, he's a decent chap and will make a good King when the time comes, both him and his brother have more of the common touch about them than their elders, I think they inherited that from their mother who is someone that will be dearly missed on the big day.
Once upon a time this would be a big day in the UK with lots of bunting and that around, sadly I suspect that it will be a rather quiet affair. :damn:

Please don't think that I was disparaging you Brits. It just came as a bit of a cultural difference. Obviously her family is well-to-do or they would not be in those circles to begin with, but still commoners due to blood lineage.

[Schroeder]

Harry or William? I thought William was together with Middleton....bah, who cares?:stare:

[Takeda Shingen]

Harry or William? I thought William was together with Middleton....bah, who cares?:stare:

Damn, you're right. It is William. Never was much of a royal watcher. Let me try and change the title.

EDIT: Nope. My moderator powers are no good on GT. Ah well, that's what I get for ignorance.

[Rhodes]

By the way, the son of the regent is the prince of wale, his brother is the duke of? And the grandchildren of the regent, sons of the prince of wales have what titles?

[Schroeder]

Ah well, that's what I get for ignorance.
Since the Brit Oberon fell for it too, I would say you are excused.:D
Now it already takes the Germans to tell the British who there future king will be.:O:

[Takeda Shingen]

By the way, the son of the regent is the prince of wale, his brother is the duke of? And the grandchildren of the regent, sons of the prince of wales have what titles?

I believe that Harry becomes the Duke of York after either the current one dies or his brother becomes king. Don't take that on face value, though, I named the wrong prince in my freaking title. :oops:

[Sailor Steve]

This should help:
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question438.htm

[Oberon]

By the way, the son of the regent is the prince of wale, his brother is the duke of? And the grandchildren of the regent, sons of the prince of wales have what titles?

His Royal Highness Prince William Arthur Philip Louis of Wales, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter

I think...titles are confusing in our Royal Family.

Oh, and don't worry TS, like our good smartass notes, I get the two mixed up all the time, hard to think I'm the same age as Harry... :haha: No offense or anything taken in regards to tone, to be honest I'm as amused by some of the antiquities of the British regal system as most. In fact, sometimes people from other nations take more note of it than most British do, despite the fact that it's plastered all over the media today and probably will be for the next few days (or months in the case of the Daily Mail).
Britain is an interesting nation in terms of its monarchical system, and its relation to the public, I often ponder whether things are particularly different in other monarchical nations, whether we put more emphasis on it than they do. :hmmm: My great-grandmother was a devoted royalist, her scrapbook as lots of news cuttings about them, as it was for people of her time, but as the years have gone past, and the odd scandal has rocked them, particularly the families treatment of Diana around the time of the divorce, well, I think public perception has lowered somewhat. This has also been affected by, and I mean no offense here, but first generation immigrants and the conciliatory attitude towards them which has increased greatly since the original 1950s West Indies arrivals (who are probably some of the most patriotic Brits you could find) to those of today who believe that the place of migration should adapt not the immigrant...but that is a discussion which is not for this thread and would probably fold neatly into any discussion in regards to immigration. When you couple that to a growing number of populace who are more interested in reality television than reality itself, then the decline of interest in the monarchy and the political system is shown. :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

...a growing number of populace who are more interested in reality television than reality itself...
One of the best observations on human nature I've read in awhile. :yep:

[The Third Man]

meh

[frau kaleun]

Harry, William, William, Harry...

As long as the ginger one is still available. :O:

[Jimbuna]

His Royal Highness Prince William Arthur Philip Louis of Wales, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter

I think...titles are confusing in our Royal Family.

Oh, and don't worry TS, like our good smartass notes, I get the two mixed up all the time, hard to think I'm the same age as Harry... :haha: No offense or anything taken in regards to tone, to be honest I'm as amused by some of the antiquities of the British regal system as most. In fact, sometimes people from other nations take more note of it than most British do, despite the fact that it's plastered all over the media today and probably will be for the next few days (or months in the case of the Daily Mail).
Britain is an interesting nation in terms of its monarchical system, and its relation to the public, I often ponder whether things are particularly different in other monarchical nations, whether we put more emphasis on it than they do. :hmmm: My great-grandmother was a devoted royalist, her scrapbook as lots of news cuttings about them, as it was for people of her time, but as the years have gone past, and the odd scandal has rocked them, particularly the families treatment of Diana around the time of the divorce, well, I think public perception has lowered somewhat. This has also been affected by, and I mean no offense here, but first generation immigrants and the conciliatory attitude towards them which has increased greatly since the original 1950s West Indies arrivals (who are probably some of the most patriotic Brits you could find) to those of today who believe that the place of migration should adapt not the immigrant...but that is a discussion which is not for this thread and would probably fold neatly into any discussion in regards to immigration. When you couple that to a growing number of populace who are more interested in reality television than reality itself, then the decline of interest in the monarchy and the political system is shown. :yep:

The popularity of the Royal Family diminishes with each passing year.

One reason IMHO is the fact that due to the freedom of the press everyone is often quite aware of what goes on behind the scenes and add to that the rising levels of social deprevation and the rise in working class expectations it doesn't suprise me people can become a little resentful.

I sometimes ponder the following crazy/absurd hypothetical situation:

The armed forces are given conflicting orders from both the reigning monarch and the Queens First Minister (Prime Minister).....who would they obey?

I know who I would obey.

[DarkFish]

:hmmm: I guess it's an official term to use to denote someone not of Royal descent. I guess to a nation not used to a class system as much as we are it would be a bit more jarring.Yeah, that's the thing with royalties. They somehow believe they are worth more than "common" people, and expect others to act like it.

Personally, I would support any means of getting rid of our Dutch royal family. And with "any means", I mean *any* means, as long as not too many "commoners" are getting killed. Hell yes, if necessary, I would support an armed overthrowal of the royal family a la Russia 1917, including execution of all of them if they are not prepared to give up their royal status and return the money they stole from the people.

[the_tyrant]

Damn, you're right. It is William. Never was much of a royal watcher. Let me try and change the title.

EDIT: Nope. My moderator powers are no good on GT. Ah well, that's what I get for ignorance.

its weired though
I have changed the thread title before in GT
I think anybody could do it, as long as its his/her own post

[Platapus]

Question for our British members: How do you feel about him using Diana's ring?

[Oberon]

Question for our British members: How do you feel about him using Diana's ring?
It's a nice touch...I just hope it brings more luck to them than it did to its former owners.

[DarkFish]

its weired though
I have changed the thread title before in GT
I think anybody could do it, as long as its his/her own post
Nope, that's the title that shows up above your first post. The title that shows up in the forum can only be changed by moderators of that particular forum.

[Oberon]

Nope, that's the title that shows up above your first post. The title that shows up in the forum can only be changed by moderators of that particular forum.

Case in point: Quantas... :damn:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=176781

[Takeda Shingen]

Case in point: Quantas... :damn:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=176781

We all do stuff like that from time to time. I'm just the most recent example. :haha:

[AdeptCharge]

How do you feel about him using Diana's ring?I feel nothing. When I was best man at a wedding, the vicar asked me, Do you have the ring? "I have the ring" Could you give me it? "I could." Why wont you give me the ring? "Because you have not asked proper instruction for the rings transfer" Give me the damn ring :oops: "Here is the ring as you request" :yep:

[kiwi_2005]

All the best to the pair, as long as she doesn't end up like Sarah Ferguson gets desperate tries to sell ex hubby for some cash! :DL

If the marriage is over the ex wife shouldn't be allowed to keep the title. Why do they keep it when they turn out to be more a pain in the backside for the royals.:hmmm:

[danlisa]

Question for our British members: How do you feel about him using Diana's ring?

Quite natural and is actually tradition within families.

It actually scared me quite a bit how the News was already trying to garner public outrage as to how Dianas eldest should wish to give his future wife his mothers ring.

Couple that with the usual tripe like "Is Kate the right woman for William" polls.....

FFS, he's happy, she's happy, everyone in the royal family is happy. The News is not happy because there is nothing bad to report.

Why is it they (the news) seem to think that the public of this country have earned some right to comment and (virtually) sign off on this engagement because of some fanatical devotion to Diana.

Good luck to Wills and Kate.:yeah:

Let's now wait and see how the Media can bugger this up for them.

[Jimbuna]

I agre with Dan....it is a long held British (possibly other nations as well for all I know) tradition for jewellery to be 'handed down' within families.

I wear my late fathers wedding ring for example.

It was given to William to do as he wished and obviously has the blessing of his grandmother and the rest of the royal family.

Wishing them both every happiness.

[Alex]

The News is not happy because there is nothing bad to report.
:yep: :rotfl2:

Well, the French opinion likes her a lot.
I do too, but I think it's going to be a pain to this Princess to come, to succeed to such a magnetic and charismatic Princess as Diana was. No one will ever take her place in people's heart, I guess...

Anyway, best wishes to them ! :03: :up: :D :sunny:

[Schroeder]

Well, the French opinion likes her a lot.

And since when do the British care for what the French think?:O:
:D

[Jimbuna]

And since when do the British care for what the French think?:O:
:D

There must be a witty answer to that somewhere :DL

[Oberon]

There must be a witty answer to that somewhere :DL

I think we left it somewhere in Agincourt... :hmmm:

(j/k :03:)

[FIREWALL]

Who's to say one of them won't be the next Queen. :har:

[Takeda Shingen]

I think we left it somewhere in Agincourt... :hmmm:

(j/k :03:)

Ooo. And it still stings after nearly 600 years. :haha:

(Also kidding)

[frau kaleun]

Ooo. And it still stings after nearly 600 years. :haha:


It's bound to sting, all those arrows going right through the armor like that... :O:

[Jimbuna]

I think we left it somewhere in Agincourt... :hmmm:

(j/k :03:)

Trust you :DL