You never know who you're going to bump into

[GoldenRivet]

Went to the local book store to have a cup of coffee and get a little studying done. I went to leave - and as I was walking out of the barely populated little book store... Oliver North was walking in.

Apparently he was stopping in for a quick book signing, so I did an about face and picked up his book about Americas special forces heroes.

Within minutes the house was packed and he was signing my copy.


You just never know who you're going to bump into out there.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

I was walking my freshman year of college around my campus, and I said "hi" to a woman in late middle age who was walking her dog. Two weeks later, I find out Ursula LeGuin is giving a speech on campus, and I go and I'm sure you can guess the rest.

(Turns out she lived right off campus)

[nikimcbee]

Went to the local book store to have a cup of coffee and get a little studying done. I went to leave - and as I was walking out of the barely populated little book store... Oliver North was walking in.

Apparently he was stopping in for a quick book signing, so I did an about face and picked up his book about Americas special forces heroes.

Within minutes the house was packed and he was signing my copy.


You just never know who you're going to bump into out there.


That's cool! did you get to talk to him?:hmmm:

[Tribesman]

So thats the Ollie North that worked with drug barons and supported murdering lunatics as well as giving weapons to crazy islamic terrorists who attacked americans.
Don't ya just hate it when criminals write a book and cash in on the media circus.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

So thats the Ollie North that worked with drug barons and supported murdering lunatics as well as giving weapons to crazy islamic terrorists who attacked americans.
Don't ya just hate it when criminals write a book and cash in on the media circus.

Isn't it amazing they admire this guy?

[Platapus]

So after bumping into Ollie North, were you ever able to get the stench out of your clothes?

[Takeda Shingen]

Guys, I think you're missing the point of his story; it is not 'Oliver North is a super duper guy', rather 'Holy crap I saw Oliver North today'. I had a similar experience a few years back with Bill Clinton (and his secret service detail) at the Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I am not, nor was I ever, a Clinton supporter, but I still thought 'Holy crap, that's Bill Clinton'.

[Sailor Steve]

So thats the Ollie North that worked with drug barons and supported murdering lunatics as well as giving weapons to crazy islamic terrorists who attacked americans.
Don't ya just hate it when criminals write a book and cash in on the media circus.
Isn't it amazing they admire this guy?
Who was it made the quote about "usual suspects" just a few days ago? Besides, isn't he the Ollie North who was found Not Guilty?

I think you guys hate him just because he foxed your witch hunt.

[Platapus]

Besides, isn't he the Ollie North who was found Not Guilty?



Absolutely not! He was found guilty of committing three felonies (down from an original 7).

His guilt findings were vacated because he had immunity due to his Congressional Testimony. A vacated finding removes the court proceedings as if the trial never existed. So in no way can it be said that he was found Not Guilty. Legally he has not been tried yet (and never will stand trial for his crimes). :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

...he had immunity...
Yes indeed. He told stories to a Congressional delegation, and agreed to testify if they gave him immunity. He then went before Congress and told them he had lied to the delegation. They tried him for that, among other things, even though they had granted the immunity in the first place.

It was a witch-hunt to get Reagan, and North foxed them good. They screwed up, and have been whining about "getting off on a technicality" ever since.

(and never will stand trial for his crimes)
Alleged crimes.

[GoldenRivet]

Guys, I think you're missing the point of his story; it is not 'Oliver North is a super duper guy', rather 'Holy crap I saw Oliver North today'. I had a similar experience a few years back with Bill Clinton (and his secret service detail) at the Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I am not, nor was I ever, a Clinton supporter, but I still thought 'Holy crap, that's Bill Clinton'.

Correct :salute:

Also, while i dont know the man from Adam... i do like his "War Stories" Series, furthermore, his book speaks very highly of the American Servicemen which i think tells some very moving stories of admirable and often unsung heroes.

As much as i dislike Obama... i would still have that celebrity wow factor if his motorcade stopped in front of my house and he knocked on my door asking to use my restroom to take a presidential piss.

i think the appropriate response to a thread such as this one would be "seems like an experience you can tell people about" or "neat" or "not that i like Ollie North but hey... whatever"

instead certain people piss and moan like writhing whores about the Marine who was smart enough to outsmart congress.





which may be the ONE time they were on the receiving end of a good screwing.

[Bubblehead1980]

Correct :salute:

Also, while i dont know the man from Adam... i do like his "War Stories" Series, furthermore, his book speaks very highly of the American Servicemen which i think tells some very moving stories of admirable and often unsung heroes.

As much as i dislike Obama... i would still have that celebrity wow factor if his motorcade stopped in front of my house and he knocked on my door asking to use my restroom to take a presidential piss.

i think the appropriate response to a thread such as this one would be "seems like an experience you can tell people about" or "neat" or "not that i like Ollie North but hey... whatever"

instead certain people piss and moan like writhing whores about the Marine who was smart enough to outsmart congress.





which may be the ONE time they were on the receiving end of a good screwing.


I would not allow Obama in my house and would honestly ignore him but his "random" stops are not so random, they make sure things go well, they learned from the Joe the (idiot) Plummer guy during the campaign.One of Obama's few honest moments though.

Anyway, pretty cool you saw Ollie North:salute:

[GoldenRivet]

I would not allow Obama in my house

makes two of us... the less he knows about the things behind my front door the better.

still, later that day around a nice fire, a glass of amaretto and a good cigar with my friends i would say

"You guys wont believe who knocked on my door doing the potty dance!"

of course the conversation would end with:

"I sent him two houses down to the yard with all the liberal political signs in the yard.... but still, you never know who you're gonna bump into."

:up:

That's cool! did you get to talk to him?:hmmm:

they hurried people along pretty fast.

The conversation went like this

Me: "How are you today sir?"

Ollie: "Great how about yourself?"

Me: "Just fine."

Ollie: "I really appreciate you guys coming out today. I mean it, thanks a lot."

Me: "Thank you for your service. have a nice day"

whole conversation took about 10 seconds... so it wasnt like a personal BS session with Oliver North or anything.

Edit:

Now when i bumped into "W" in the middle of the night at a small airport... that was different, he was actually pretty cool and had a cute little puppy dog too

[nikimcbee]

Wait, you meet W?

[GoldenRivet]

Wait, you meet W?

way back about a month before he became the republican presidential candidate.

I was 20? maybe 21 years old. He and I were 2 of about 5 people in the room.

I like him. friendly, jovial... the sort of guy i would pop a top with.

he seemed like a genuine person... his interview here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JktsWYikTWk ) is pretty much what its like to sit with him for 10 or 15 minutes.

say what you will about him as a president, i always liked him because i was able to sort of look at him as "just a guy"

[Tribesman]

Besides, isn't he the Ollie North who was found Not Guilty?


No its the Ollie North that was found guilty.:yeah:

instead certain people piss and moan like writhing whores about the Marine who was smart enough to outsmart congress.

Since when has that been a Marines job?


they learned from the Joe the (idiot) Plummer guy
You mean Joe the tax dodging not the plumber who funnily enough became a media celebrity with the same people.

[GoldenRivet]

Some of these people take book signings pretty seriously.

I heard one lady saying she spent the night to get some sports star's book signed :doh:

[Sailor Steve]

No its the Ollie North that was found guilty.:yeah:
I already responded to that whine. Did you miss it, or are you ignoring it?

Since when has that been a Marines job?
It's everybody's job. You're the only one who thinks Congress is worth anything. And again you didn't answer the charge.

You mean Joe the tax dodging not the plumber who funnily enough became a media celebrity with the same people.
No argument there.

[SteamWake]

Not supprising that the usual suspects launch into hate mode.

I dident even know he had a 'new' book out.

Anyhow pretty cool coincidence there Steve. ;)

[Tribesman]

I already responded to that whine. Did you miss it, or are you ignoring it?


Yes, and you incorrectly said he was found not guilty, are you ignoring that?

It's everybody's job.
Is it really?
His job involved following his oath of office, since his problems began with taking US laws and breaking them while aiding enemies of the state then he can in no way be described as doing his job as a Marine.

You're the only one who thinks Congress is worth anything.
:har::har::har::har::har:
Sorry to break it to ya Sailor, but them people in Congress are politicians.

And again you didn't answer the charge.

Whichever way you cut it he lied under oath which makes him a rather despicable character, wrapping himself in the flag makes it even more despicable and stains both the flag and his uniform together with all that is supposed to stand for.

[AngusJS]

It was a witch-hunt to get Reagan, and North foxed them good.Yeah, why try to keep the executive branch in check.

And Ollie sure foxed them good, if by "foxed" you meant "lied to." A true American hero. :salute:

:doh:

[Sailor Steve]

Yeah, why try to keep the executive branch in check.
No, it was the opposition trying to squash a president they didn't like. Same as the Clinton impeachment, which to my mind was another useless witchhunt.

And Ollie sure foxed them good, if by "foxed" you meant "lied to." A true American hero. :salute:

:doh:
I covered that. Prove otherwise.

[Bilge_Rat]

I have run into former Canadian prime ministers up here, met John Turner, Jean Chretien in the past and Paul Martin at a book launch a few months back.

Of course, things are looser in Canada, no security details for former PMs.

[Tribesman]

I covered that. Prove otherwise.
The proof was in your post, it was also in his testimonies plus its in his later own media material.
He either lied in the first case or he was lying in the second case about the first case. Either way he is a liar and as it happens he was lying about actions which were contrary to US law as signed by the US President which he as part of his job was sworn to obey.
So whichever way you look at it he is a liar and a disgrace to his uniform.

[Sailor Steve]

The proof was in your post, it was also in his testimonies plus its in his later own media material.
He either lied in the first case or he was lying in the second case about the first case. Either way he is a liar and as it happens he was lying about actions which were contrary to US law as signed by the US President which he as part of his job was sworn to obey.
So whichever way you look at it he is a liar and a disgrace to his uniform.
I accept that he lied the first time (to the committee who had no authority and to whom he did not swear an oath) and told the truth under oath. I could be wrong. You could be right. But in this case we are talking about a committee and a congress who are just as dishonest with each other and with us. Argue as you will about what crimes were committed, this was still nothing more than a one-sided hunt for a scapegoat.

Before you think I'm one-sided, I felt exactly the same way about the Clinton impeachment (but I've already said that).

[Kongo Otto]

Guys, I think you're missing the point of his story; it is not 'Oliver North is a super duper guy', rather 'Holy crap I saw Oliver North today'. I had a similar experience a few years back with Bill Clinton (and his secret service detail) at the Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I am not, nor was I ever, a Clinton supporter, but I still thought 'Holy crap, that's Bill Clinton'.

So that means Monica Lewinski changed her name? :har:

[Tribesman]

But in this case we are talking about a committee and a congress who are just as dishonest with each other and with us.
Yet also talking about the President, the AG and the FBI.
I am sure you can recall just how big this scandal was.
After all the funding amendment about the contras came about after a big story of US trained and financed "freedom fighters" murdering lots of women and kids.
To add hilarity to the particular topic, one of the reporters who broke the story was a former US Marine officer and the local special forces heroes who murdered the women and kids were trained by US special forces.

Argue as you will about what crimes were committed, this was still nothing more than a one-sided hunt for a scapegoat.

It was a two sided hunt for someone to take the fall, both of the big parties were involved.

[Sailor Steve]

Guys, I think you're missing the point of his story; it is not 'Oliver North is a super duper guy', rather 'Holy crap I saw Oliver North today'. I had a similar experience a few years back with Bill Clinton (and his secret service detail) at the Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I am not, nor was I ever, a Clinton supporter, but I still thought 'Holy crap, that's Bill Clinton'.
I had a similar experience in 1999. I was driving skiers from the Salt Lake airport to the local resorts, and had a pickup in Park City. There were three couples, and they asked me to stop at a convenience store on the way out of town. They came back out with their arms full of newspapers - they had bought every copy in the store! It seems that the Clintons were in town for a ski holiday, and during a photo op one of the couples in my van were selected to get their picture taken shaking hands with Bill, and the picture was on the front page of Section 2 (Local News) of the Salt Lake Tribune. They wanted copies for all their friends.

They asked me if I was a Clinton fan, and I said "No". The woman said "Neither are we, but...but..."

And I replied "But you got your picture taken shaking hands with the President of the United States, and that's something to tell your grandchildren about!"

[Sailor Steve]

It was a two sided hunt for someone to take the fall, both of the big parties were involved.
And there were Democrats involved in the Clinton impeachment. It was still an attempt by the opposition to 'get' the sitting president. Stupid, shallow and petty, even if the charges were true, which was never actually proven.

[The Third Man]

Indeed you never know who will be just beyond the bulkhead.

Paul Newman, Linda Blair, Robert Ludlum, Kieth Richards, Victoria Jackson, Robert Redford, Garth Brooks, Newt Gingrich, James Woods, Rodney Dangerfield, Christopher Plummer.....et al

That is a partial list.

[Oberon]

way back about a month before he became the republican presidential candidate.

I was 20? maybe 21 years old. He and I were 2 of about 5 people in the room.

I like him. friendly, jovial... the sort of guy i would pop a top with.

he seemed like a genuine person... his interview here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JktsWYikTWk ) is pretty much what its like to sit with him for 10 or 15 minutes.

say what you will about him as a president, i always liked him because i was able to sort of look at him as "just a guy"

Blair said the same thing that Bush was a man who would call a spade a spade. I mean, I ripped into the guy during his presidency and some of the things he did still make me shake my head, but his quick talk to the cameras at the G8 summit at Gleneagles as news broke of the 7/7 attacks, well, it made me glad to have the US as a friend and his words were genuinely heartfelt.

For my dues, I was talking to Joe Pasquale the other day, and I've also met Jay Kay and Jarvis Cocker whilst at work. :yep:

[tater]

You mean Joe the tax dodging not the plumber who funnily enough became a media celebrity with the same people.

Maybe Obama should have offered him a cabinet post as a "reach across to the other side" gesture. Tax evasion is practically a prerequisite (though I doubt his evasion was nearly as large as, say, Geithner's).

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Maybe Obama should have offered him a cabinet post as a "reach across to the other side" gesture. Tax evasion is practically a prerequisite (though I doubt his evasion was nearly as large as, say, Geithner's).

Evading Vietnam seems to be more in line w/the Republican list of prerequisites.

[GoldenRivet]

Evading Vietnam seems to be more in line w/the Republican list of prerequisites.

Tell it to Bill Clinton

[Armistead]

Early 09 I bumped into Beyonce in Greensboro NC. She stopped by a local mall and came through the basement mall office we were remodeling. I think she had a concert that night at the nearby coliseum. She had another rapper with her, can't recall his name. I didn't even know who she was. I got about 4ft from her as she leaned on the wall seemingly bored. I was then pushed back by her BG's and she went on. They caught one of my workers taking pictures with his phone and made mall security delete the pictures.

She was rather hot, even though I had no clue who she was.