Flares in SH3 GWX

[fitzcarraldo]

I´m searching a good mod for add distress or emergency flares in the merchants/warships, for SH3 GWX 3. :06: I like the flares in SH4 TMO...

What is the best mod available for that effect?

Many thanks!

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=455

This adds damage effects from SH4 to SH3, including distress flares. The only problem is they don't fire when the ship is hit, but when it sinks.

[fitzcarraldo]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=455

This adds damage effects from SH4 to SH3, including distress flares. The only problem is they don't fire when the ship is hit, but when it sinks.

Many thanks! Only a question: I have the Rbs GWX 30 71 rb fixed mod installed, buy I didn´t see flares in the ships. Is the same version? This 204f1 version of SH4 effects is better than the 30-71?

Regards!

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

No, 30-71 is newer, larger and better. I linked to the only one we have here at Subsim.

I too use 30-71, and I see flares all the time. As I said, it's annoying because they don't launch until the ship actually slips beneath the waves.

[fitzcarraldo]

No, 30-71 is newer, larger and better. I linked to the only one we have here at Subsim.

I too use 30-71, and I see flares all the time. As I said, it's annoying because they don't launch until the ship actually slips beneath the waves.

OK, but with 30-71, I don´t see flares...It seems some incompatibility between mods...

Many thanks.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[jahsavage]

I've been playing LSH v5 just recently and it has ship horns and flares that are launched when ships are under attack, I can't say I remember ever hearing ship horns with GWX but the SH4 effects for SH3 does add flares on sinking (as well as a load of other brillant effects).

It would be great to have the LSH v5 flares and horn mod for GWX.

[fitzcarraldo]

I've been playing LSH v5 just recently and it has ship horns and flares that are launched when ships are under attack, I can't say I remember ever hearing ship horns with GWX but the SH4 effects for SH3 does add flares on sinking (as well as a load of other brillant effects).

It would be great to have the LSH v5 flares and horn mod for GWX.

Yes, I have LSH3 in other SH3 installation and the effects are great.

The problem is the "sh3.dl" file. It is overwrited by a variety of mods. Because I use Fm Interior with others mods and the Aces Multimod compatibility, "LifeBoats&Debris" must remain before Aces MC, but SH4 Effects must remain before LifeBoats and after those mods, the Aces MC, overwrites all. Aces MC cancel my SH4 effects...:wah:


I´ll try the horn and flares mod from LSH3 in the installation of GWX...;)

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[jahsavage]

Hi Fitzcarraldo

I added the SH4 effects after Aces Compatibility mod and they worked great, I'm sure there are some problem but I've not come across them yet.

Check out my mod list on the Oversized Emblems thread.

Regards
JahSavage

[fitzcarraldo]

Hi Fitzcarraldo

I added the SH4 effects after Aces Compatibility mod and they worked great, I'm sure there are some problem but I've not come across them yet.

Check out my mod list on the VIID/XD thread.

Regards
JahSavage

Do you have the flares? I have the SH4 effects after the Aces MC, some effects are there, but the flares are totally ausent...

Many thanks.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[jahsavage]

I have red flares, wonderful explosions and a real spooky sea wind sound.

PS

My mod list is on the Oversized Emblems thread not the one I listed.

[fitzcarraldo]

I have red flares, wonderful explosions and a real spooky sea wind sound.

PS

My mod list is on the Oversized Emblems thread not the one I listed.

This is your list?: (from the emblems thread)

TransparentDials
TransparenteKonsole
SH3 Internal Life Mod v1.1
WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Torpedo Hydrophone Sound
TorpedoTubesFfireFinal vGW
Subphones
Pascal_Port_People
Ambient Hydrophone Sound
Ambient Underwater Sound
Capt. Teach's SH3 Color Icons for GWX 3.0 (Standard)
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
WB's Renown Replacement
Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Destroyers&Corvette
Mine by TP
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
New Uboat Guns 1.2
Blue U-Marker
LCM701gwx30
M.E.P v3
MEP v3 VisualSensors for gwx3
FlatSunFix for M.E.P v3
GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Merchant_Fleet_Mod_3.2
MFM-v3-Neutral-Skins-1940
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19390901
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19391101
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19400201
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19400501
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19400601
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19400801
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19401101
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19410201
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19410801
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19420201
Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign v2.4c
Seafloor SF V3 Final
Torpedo explosion
RadioMessage - MorseCodeOnly
BMW-R75 v.1 by TP
GWX - Contact Color
Unoffical Rockets Optional_16km
Depthcharge Shake v2.01
DD_OH_V3.09_20091204224112
GWX_DFa-Flag&Pens_2010
FM_NewInterior_V1.0
Wooden_Lifeboats_Mod_1.1
Unofficial_rockets_fix_GWX3.0
Urfischs_ModStrike_Beta1
Crash Dive 40 Metres!
Aces' Multimod compatability fix release v1.3 public beta
Sound_for_DD_OH_V3.09
Fuel Economy Mod v1.2
b25_Louder_Diesels
b25Wide_Camera

Where is the SH4 effects mod?

I like to see the order of SH4 effects plus FM interior plus Aces Compatibility mod.

Many thanks!

Fitzcarraldo

[jahsavage]

Hi Fitzcarraldo

I've just appended the Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71 to the mod list below.
I know JSGME complains of clashes but the game plays well and the mod certainly provides fireworks.

Regards

JahSavage

[fitzcarraldo]

Hi Fitzcarraldo

I've just appended the Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71 to the mod list below.
I know JSGME complains of clashes but the game plays well and the mod certainly provides fireworks.

Regards

JahSavage

Many thanks!

I put the LSH3 V5 Shiphorns and flares submod in my list of GWX and now I have the flares: white (alarm) and red (SOS when ships are sinking). All seems work fine. The white flares and horns are appearing with the ships undamaged.

My actual list of mods:

GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
WBNN Mission Orders
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V5
GWX - 16km Atmosphere
Unofficial_rockets_fix_GWX3.0
Elite U-boat Binoculars
New Uboat Guns 1.2
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
U-Boat Bases Map with New St Nazaire
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
Combat Radio Frequency
GWX_DFa-Flag&Pens_2010
No continuous 'Ship spotted' V1.2 for GWX3+Rubinis RocketFix
FM30_UpDown_final
WB's Deck Gun Range
WB's Decks Awash + Fuel Economy
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Q Ship mod GWX3.0
Real Depth Charge
Ice Age
FM_NewInterior_V1.0
b25_SF_Grass_Full_V2
Conning Tower open Hatch TestFMfood
MFM-Interim-Beta
Subphones
Aces Hi Res Uniforms and Medals Mk 2
Evan´s Uniforms
evan82's Sawfish Emblem
Compulsory U-boat Headdress - GWX 2.0
Rapt0r's Instruments V3.5
_LSH3_V5_ENV_MEP2a-Dark-Nights
_LSH3_V5_ENV_MEP2b-FSF-for-Dark-Nights
optional-Intro Screen for MaGui 3.4
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3.2cg
WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010
Depthcharge Shake v2.01
Das boot sound
DBSM_SH3_Speech_Fix
Flags_enlighten
Diesel Startup Sequence for FM Engine Room beta 1
BritishAsdicMkIFinal
GWX - Main movie - 'Das Boot'
Haunting Atlantic Wind
TMTv2+ThomsensShips v4.4 for GWX3+Xtra ships
Pascal_Port_People
Rapt0r's Das Boot Interior
Dönitz Picture With Fly
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
Wooden_Lifeboats_Mod_1.1
Aces' Multimod compatability fix release v1.3 public beta
MaGui 3.4
FM_NI_Fix_for_MaGui 3.4
optional-ALTERNATIVE SCOPES with speedlines stopwatch for MaGui 3.4
German Images for MaGui v3.4
TorpedoSolutionButton for MaGui 3.4 (NYGM-GWX-WAC)
Red Night Filter
New_clearsky_clouds
_LSH3_V5_SLS_Schiffshorn-Leuchtkugeln-Seenotsignal
Rapt0r's Das Boot Skin
Das_Boot_Besatzung_v2.1-Stations-ohne_Kaleun
ail Das Boot officers mod v2.17
_LSH3_V5_SLS_Spezialeffekte-Mittel
Torpedo Hydrophone Sound
TorpedoTubesFfireFinal

Observe the positions of LSH3 Schiffhorns. The Spezialeeffekte Mittel is a medium pack of effects.

If you have LSH3 V5, you can try this submods. I´ll try the SH4 Effects, but if this mod have the flares when the ships go down, ths LSH3 V5 is best...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[Captain Nemo]

This LSH sub mod sounds interesting, but I suppose the big question is, can the LSH distress flares sub mod only (i.e. no other LSH mods being used) be used with a GWX installation without any side effects? For example, does JSGME report any clashes with other mods?

Nemo

[fitzcarraldo]

This LSH sub mod sounds interesting, but I suppose the big question is, can the LSH distress flares sub mod only (i.e. no other LSH mods being used) be used with a GWX installation without any side effects? For example, does JSGME report any clashes with other mods?

Nemo

The submod (an optional for the main LSH3 V5 mod), adds flares (graphics) and some sounds (shiphorns).

I don´t observe any colateral effect. The main and more conflictive mods: Subpens, Fm Interior, LifeBoats&Debris, Depth Charge Shake, pennants and flags in the sub, open hatch, Super Turm VIIC, Ace´s Multimod compatibility, MaGUI interface (a derivative of OLC GUI), all works fine.:yeah:

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[blueduck]

Hello guys,

this LSH3V5-MOD may work fine with other MODS, but be aware that it is implemented for every single LSH3V5-Ship (not for fishing boats and this stuff).
So please don't argue if some of the GWX-ships do not show the signals. :wah:

The Merchants fire the white signal, if your U-boat is detected and the red one, when the ship sinks.

Concerning the warships, only escorts and destroyers use the white signal - light crusiers and higher do not use them anymore.

Regards
Blueduck

[Captain Nemo]

Hello guys,

this LSH3V5-MOD may work fine with other MODS, but be aware that it is implemented for every single LSH3V5-Ship (not for fishing boats and this stuff).
So please don't argue if some of the GWX-ships do not show the signals. :wah:

The Merchants fire the white signal, if your U-boat is detected and the red one, when the ship sinks.

Concerning the warships, only escorts and destroyers use the white signal - light crusiers and higher do not use them anymore.

Regards
Blueduck

Thanks for the clarification Fitzcarraldo and Blueduck:up:.

My question now concerns realism, did merchant ships fire white starshells to illuminate the area if they suspected a u-boat's presence? Surely this would only help the u-boats see their targets more easily. Recently there was a mod released that removed serchlights from merchants for this very reason. I like the idea of red distress flares when a ship is going down, but am not certain about merchants illuminating the convoy with starshells, perhaps someone with a bit more knowledge on this subject could clarify?

Nemo

[Arael]

Thanks for the clarification Fitzcarraldo and Blueduck:up:.

My question now concerns realism, did merchant ships fire white starshells to illuminate the area if they suspected a u-boat's presence? Surely this would only help the u-boats see their targets more easily. Recently there was a mod released that removed serchlights from merchants for this very reason. I like the idea of red distress flares when a ship is going down, but am not certain about merchants illuminating the convoy with starshells, perhaps someone with a bit more knowledge on this subject could clarify?

Nemo

Early in the war merchants in convoy were given starshells, with the idea being that the instant a fellow merchant was torpedoed that everyone would fire the starshells, turning night into day and hopefully allowing the escorts to easily see any surfaced subs. They were known as "snowflake" flares, and use of them directly led to the torpedoing of the first escort carrier, HMS Audacity. A report on a convoy battle that details the use of these snowflakes can be found here. It also details one convoy that no one here ever wants to meet. http://thomo.coldie.net/naval/hg-76-the-first-victorious-convoy-december-1941

[Captain Nemo]

Early in the war merchants in convoy were given starshells, with the idea being that the instant a fellow merchant was torpedoed that everyone would fire the starshells, turning night into day and hopefully allowing the escorts to easily see any surfaced subs. They were known as "snowflake" flares, and use of them directly led to the torpedoing of the first escort carrier, HMS Audacity. A report on a convoy battle that details the use of these snowflakes can be found here. It also details one convoy that no one here ever wants to meet. http://thomo.coldie.net/naval/hg-76-the-first-victorious-convoy-december-1941

Thanks for the link Arael to an interesting article.:up:

Nemo

[fitzcarraldo]

Early in the war merchants in convoy were given starshells, with the idea being that the instant a fellow merchant was torpedoed that everyone would fire the starshells, turning night into day and hopefully allowing the escorts to easily see any surfaced subs. They were known as "snowflake" flares, and use of them directly led to the torpedoing of the first escort carrier, HMS Audacity. A report on a convoy battle that details the use of these snowflakes can be found here. It also details one convoy that no one here ever wants to meet. http://thomo.coldie.net/naval/hg-76-the-first-victorious-convoy-december-1941

Thanks for the information! In my test of the LSH3 V5 Flares submod in GWX, no problems. Of course, some merchants haven´t the flares, but it seems realistic for me. Not all the ships shoot the flares...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Volk2]

Thanks for the information! In my test of the LSH3 V5 Flares submod in GWX, no problems. Of course, some merchants haven´t the flares, but it seems realistic for me. Not all the ships shoot the flares...

Where can I download this LSH3 V5 Flares submod? Please don't tell me that I must download full LSH3, it would take whole day...

[Volk2]

Where can I download this LSH3 V5 Flares submod? Please don't tell me that I must download full LSH3, it would take whole day...

Here you have, Wolk: ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/Sharing/SH3COMMUNITYMODS/LIVING%20SILENT%20HUNTER%203%20MOD/ADDITIONAL%20MODS%20FOR%20LSH3%20V4.0/MOD_Schiffshorn_Leuchtkugeln_Seenotsignal_LSH3_V4. 7z :up:

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Many conflicts with it in GWX. Eg. with great "remove searchlights from merchants" mod :(

[fitzcarraldo]

Where can I download this LSH3 V5 Flares submod? Please don't tell me that I must download full LSH3, it would take whole day...

I have the submod as part of the total supermod...I don´t know if there is in "single" download...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[clouclou]

Dear,
I tried LSH3 V4 submod Flares.
Result: the smoke stacks of ships out in big white squares.
Or is the error?
Claude.

[fitzcarraldo]

Dear,
I tried LSH3 V4 submod Flares.
Result: the smoke stacks of ships out in big white squares.
Or is the error?
Claude.

Try the submod LSH3V5.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[clouclou]

Cher
Can not find submod LSH3V5.
Cordially
Claude

[Magic1111]

Cher
Can not find submod LSH3V5.
Cordially
Claude

You find LSH v5 here: http://www.lsh3.com/v5/index_en.html

Best regards,
Magic

[fitzcarraldo]

Cher
Can not find submod LSH3V5.
Cordially
Claude

The flares and shiphorns is an optional submod of the LSH3 V5 supermod. You must download the entire mod...But the supermod is awesome, and I highly recommend you make a parallel install of SH3 (via MultiSH3), with LSH3. I have two installations: SH3 + GWX and SH3 + LSH3V5 (both over-modded...)

Regards

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[jahsavage]

Dear,
I tried LSH3 V4 submod Flares.
Result: the smoke stacks of ships out in big white squares.
Or is the error?
Claude.

I had the same with v5, you need both of the LSH3 mods mentioned earlier by fitzcarraldo