Projekt 613/Whiskey SSK and Projekt 629M/Golf II SSB

[jhapprich]

Hello! some pictures of my new subs.both almost finished.they will come with the cold war mod, too.http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4291/whiskey.jpghttp://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2158/whiskey2.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2231/whiskey3.jpghttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9046/whiskey5.jpghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/469/whiskey4.jpghttp://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2505/whiskey6.jpghttp://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6383/golfs.jpghttp://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3790/golf2v.jpghttp://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5010/golf3mj.jpghttp://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4061/golf4g.jpghttp://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8172/golf5c.jpghttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3903/golf6i.jpghttp://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1100/golf7o.jpg

[keltos01]

:yeah:

[James Cook]

mister, you are awesome! :D

[Hotmanandre]

Hello! some pictures of my new subs.both almost finished.they will come with the cold war mod, too.

Super, this project-613 most mass boat of the USSR, 215-sub.:rock:

[rein1705]

Those are Boats looking great. I cant wait to play this mod. :yeah:

[MGR1]

These, I like!:yeah:

Any possibility of a Long Bin SSG? Possibly the coolest version of the Whiskey, in my humble opinion!:|\\

Mike.:DL

[jhapprich]

I actually am working on several variants of the W class. the modifications will all be included in the seperate conning files, but I`ll have to try first if the game accepts tubes connected to a conning and not to the basic hull file. otherwise, i`ll do it the usual way. It is worth a try, hower the soviet navy considered the missile-carrying variants a failure due to their very decreased submerged speed (10, max 12 knots).

[ETR3(SS)]

Combine the Conning Tower files with the hull like I did in the Permit I sent you and you should have a problem with the Long Bin at all.

[jhapprich]

Yes, but the idea was to use a basic hull and combine it with multiple connings according to the timeframe set for the specific conning just as the game does with the stock submarines. first variants had a 76mm gun on the aft and a 20mm AA gun at the front of the conning tower. i wanted to use this as first available submarine in the mod, than use the version shown on my screenshots and finally move the submarine to the SSG/SSGN fleet as long bin and make the ZULU available for the SSK/SSN fleet.otherwise, i will build it the same way i used for the hotel and golf.

[MGR1]

Thinking further, you'd still need a new hull for the Long Bin - IIRC the conversions were lengthened quite a bit to fit in the cruise missile launchers.:hmmm:

A Twin Cylinder would be easier to make.

This link here has quite a bit on info, once it's been run through a translator:
http://www.deepstorm.ru/

There's some nice longitudinal sections on a few of the pages.

Mike.:)

[keltos01]

Who is gonna make the campaign for those beautiful subs ?

what type of campaign do you have in mind ?

keltos

[jhapprich]

Thinking further, you'd still need a new hull for the Long Bin - IIRC the conversions were lengthened quite a bit to fit in the cruise missile launchers.:hmmm:

A Twin Cylinder would be easier to make.

This link here has quite a bit on info, once it's been run through a translator:
http://www.deepstorm.ru/

There's some nice longitudinal sections on a few of the pages.

Mike.:)

THAT`S RIGHT!!! Havent thought of it yet...
So I`ll make a new Sub. Thank´s for the link, will take a look at it. Personally I use a book as reference written by former constructors of soviet submarines, which contains A LOT of detailed background info of the post-wwII soviet/russian submarine force and contains many blueprints and diagrams.

to keltos: since no one has offered to do the campaign data, probably i will:03:
first of all, i will try to convert the US campaign. mostly convoi-hunting.a modernized campaign with more specific missions will be based on what I can do about modern warships and AI submarines.

[keltos01]

to keltos: since no one has offered to do the campaign data, probably i will:03:
first of all, i will try to convert the US campaign. mostly convoi-hunting.a modernized campaign with more specific missions will be based on what I can do about modern warships and AI submarines.

sounds already good to me ! I don't know js about campaign making but when the time comes ask lurker or peabody, they know more.

keltos

[ETR3(SS)]

Supposedly making a campaign is about the same as making a single mission, only a lot more of them.

[keltos01]

Supposedly making a campaign is about the same as making a single mission, only a lot more of them.

from what little I know, from talking to Peabody, the layers of shipping are what counts : making sure ships spawn in the correct place at the right time, making layer upon layer of traffic.

then, and only then can you make the missions to here and there, because the underlying reality has been built.

this is unless you plan to use stock layers of course...

regards

keltos

[Forensicman101]

If you could make these subs compatible with Lurker's Operation Monsun mod (playable as Germans), that would be rather nifty.

[MGR1]

THAT`S RIGHT!!! Havent thought of it yet...
So I`ll make a new Sub. Thank´s for the link, will take a look at it. Personally I use a book as reference written by former constructors of soviet submarines, which contains A LOT of detailed background info of the post-wwII soviet/russian submarine force and contains many blueprints and diagrams.

No worries jhapprich.;) I can be a bit over enthusiastic at times!:88)

What's the title and author of that book? I like technical books, so this sounds good.

Mike.:)

[jhapprich]

Soviet-Russian Nuclear Submarines: Danger of the Deep by Antonov/Marinin/Valuyew

[jhapprich]

To forensicman: all of the boats are available for the german campaign, but i haven`t tested them on OM yet.

[denis_469]

Excellent submarines. See you PM.

[BUKER]

Hi jhapprich,

Wow,
very good job!:rock::rock::rock:

[jhapprich]

Hello! Since some People asked for a better version of the Whiskey V, i started to rebuild my old model. the hull and Conning have been rescaled to the correct size and the hull has been reshaped as i found new detailed plans for the sub. next thing is the redesign of the Conning tower, the adding of floodholes and new torpedo-tubes and-flaps and a pressure-hull model.i`ll keep you posted!

[Bartolomeus]

Really great news! :yeah:

Marko

[Hotmanandre]

Hello! Since some People asked for a better version of the Whiskey V, i started to rebuild my old model. the hull and Conning have been rescaled to the correct size and the hull has been reshaped as i found new detailed plans for the sub. next thing is the redesign of the Conning tower, the adding of floodholes and new torpedo-tubes and-flaps and a pressure-hull model.i`ll keep you posted!

Good news! Photos will be needed, say kin in the e-mail.:arrgh!:

[jhapprich]

some shots of the current progress:

-removed old conning base and properly widened the deck below the conning; note the shorter conning,the exhaust tube and the reling are in the old position,also the conning has been move slightly towards the bow

-added a proper splashshield to the forward sail

-the bow has been redesigned since the position of the tubes was wrong
TO HOTMANANDRE: is the bow shape correct? i found a different shape with a recess for a forward sonar (ARKTIKA-M maybe?) just below the forward tubes on the original blueprints, but the Photographs of docked 613´ show a bow the way i made it? any idea?

-the forward sonar dome is now part of the hull

-the stern section has been remade, position of the stabalizer has been corrected

-the shape of the hull diameter is now correct,according to the line drawing of the original.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8558/35412807.pnghttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2067/34171433.pnghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/444/36565734.pnghttp://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7818/95364937.pnghttp://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5051/54074000.pnghttp://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5199/84271280.png

[Hotmanandre]

HOTMANANDRE: is the bow shape correct? i found a different shape with a recess for a forward sonar (ARKTIKA-M maybe?) just below the forward tubes on the original blueprints, but the Photographs of docked 613´ show a bow the way i made it? any idea?

-the forward sonar dome is now part of the hull

-the stern section has been remade, position of the stabalizer has been corrected

-the shape of the hull diameter is now correct,according to the line drawing of the original.


In the e-mail is not a large amount, that's posted here.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21849524/Projekt+613+Whiskey.rar

[bell117]

Where is the link for project 629? I would would really like it please

[jhapprich]

Update: the Whiskey is currently getting its floodholes, the hull is almost completed
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