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MH
09-14-10, 02:19 PM
But its the last week of the age, we must convert the jews so that we can take over temple mount and bring on the end of times by building a new cleansed christian Jerusalem for Jesus:yeah:

Ahh... they scared we might crucify him again.:know:
No worry the new custom here is to throw used diapers at unbelivers.

The Third Man
09-14-10, 02:44 PM
http://imgur.com/UXE4q.jpg

I always thought Muhammad's name changed from young boy to young boy. Alice, Martha, Kathy, etc.

Skybird
09-14-10, 02:59 PM
So Skybird became a natzi now.
Thats so stupid.

If anything, than it must read : "So Skybird has become a Nazi now. If you do not know the meaning of terms but still insist on using them, you could at least have the decency to spell them correctly. ;)

tater
09-14-10, 03:19 PM
Some forums disallow typing "Nazi," so many people have become habituated to the intentional misspelling "natzi" which avoids forum filters. That's what I assumed.

The Third Man
09-14-10, 04:17 PM
How many Korans have been burned as a result of Obama's unmaned aerial attacks killing hundreds of muslims?

Gerald
09-14-10, 04:48 PM
How many Korans have been burned as a result of Obama's unmaned aerial attacks killing hundreds of muslims? do you think it just burned the Koran, I have to say that the Bible has been admitted to it in these days

Schroeder
09-14-10, 05:14 PM
If anything, than it must read : "So Skybird has become a Nazi now. If you do not know the meaning of terms but still insist on using them, you could at least have the decency to spell them correctly. ;)
Read the rest of his post. It wasn't meant to offend.;)

Skybird
09-14-10, 05:28 PM
Dammit, you could be right, Schroeder. I allowed my initial anger taking over control and hinder me to read it all. I am a bit worn-out by so often getting called a racist or Nazi.

I apologize for my biting return, MH. This time completely my own fault!

Gerald
09-14-10, 05:40 PM
Dammit, you could be right, Schroeder. I allowed my initial anger taking over control and hinder me to read it all. I am a bit worn-out by so often getting called a racist or Nazi.

I apologize for my biting return, MH. This time completely my own fault! respectable :yep:

Tribesman
09-14-10, 05:42 PM
I allowed my initial anger taking over control and hinder me to read it all.
That might explain some of Skys links, his anger has made him lose control so he just links to any crap without actually reading it as long as its roughly anti muslim, which explains the wide range of extremist crap like articles about black people ruining soccer.

Gerald
09-14-10, 06:17 PM
(CNN) -- When Terry Jones, a Florida pastor, announced his plan to burn Qurans on 9/11 with a tweet and an "International Burn a Koran Day" page on Facebook, he ignited an international conflagration of outrage.

As news spread, worldwide condemnation and anxiety mounted. At least two people died in a demonstration in Afghanistan. It seemed this obscure self-proclaimed pastor in Gainesville, Florida, was determined to carry out an action of catastrophic global consequences.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates even called him. Jones finally changed his mind.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/13/quran.case.roundup/index.html?hpt=C1




Note: September 14, 2010 Updated 1858 GMT

Happy Times
09-14-10, 08:08 PM
Actually its people like Skybird who are just as dangerous to the west as the third world fundies are, actually probably even more dangerous than them.




HAH!
You yourself represent the most dangerous type that we have in Europe.
Your kind is responsible for all the misery that will follow, those lifes that will be lost will be also on your head.

We are headed for times of civil strife and wars in Europe, the most bloodiest type of conflict there is.
It has also potential to become a larger conflict between cultural spheres.

All because of your indoctrination and blind belief in the revolution and bringing down the nation states.

Tribesman
09-15-10, 01:57 AM
Well done Happy times, you managed to write a post that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever:up:
Revolution??????:har::har::har::har:

I do like your apocalypso picture though, ending the world with a soca beat

Gerald
09-15-10, 02:47 AM
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Police have fired warning shots to disperse hundreds of stone-hurling Afghans protesting once-planned Quran burning in the U.S.

Up to 800 protesters gathered Wednesday at a square on the outskirts of Kabul chanting "death to America" and listening to fiery speeches from Muslim clerics demanding the ouster of the Afghan government and calling for foreign troops to leave the country.

The protesters burned tires and hurled stones at the police. They responded with machine-gun fire into the air.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/15/police-warning-shots-disperse-anti-quran-burning-protest-afghan-capital/



Note:Published September 15, 2010

Gerald
09-15-10, 09:33 AM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/13/trying-to-define-islam-as-a-religion-of-peace/

MH
09-15-10, 11:24 AM
Dammit, you could be right, Schroeder. I allowed my initial anger taking over control and hinder me to read it all. I am a bit worn-out by so often getting called a racist or Nazi.

I apologize for my biting return, MH. This time completely my own fault!

You have too many people on ignore list i guess.
Thats why you did not know what i was referring to.

Skybird
09-15-10, 12:53 PM
You have too many people on ignore list i guess.
Thats why you did not know what i was referring to.
Of those people posting on the two pages before your post that irritated me, only Tribesman.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1020/image1fb.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/image1fb.jpg/)

JU_88
09-15-10, 01:03 PM
How do I add someone to the ignore list?

Takeda Shingen
09-15-10, 01:10 PM
How do I add someone to the ignore list?

Go to the profile of the person you are trying to ignore. Once there, you will see a drop-down menu called 'User Lists' just below the person's avatar. Clicking on it will give you the option to place them on the ignore list. This will, for obvious reasons, not work on moderators or administrators but should work for everyone else.

Tribesman
09-15-10, 01:23 PM
Of those people posting on the two pages before your post that irritated me, only Tribesman.

Its a magic ignore list which prevents people pointing out when you are clearly repeatedly lying and showing that you are linking to racist idiots and religious fanatics as "academic sources"?:rotfl2:

Platapus
09-15-10, 05:34 PM
How do I add someone to the ignore list?

Or just save the time and simply ignore them the old fashioned way. That's what I do. :yep:

Tchocky
09-15-10, 05:49 PM
How do I add someone to the ignore list?

Just ignore them the old-fashioned way, it's what I do.






...hahahaha

Platapus
09-15-10, 07:24 PM
Or just save the time and simply ignore them the old fashioned way. That's what I do. :yep:

Just ignore them the old-fashioned way, it's what I do.






...hahahaha


Hey, are you ignoring me? :har:

Sailor Steve
09-15-10, 07:31 PM
Hey, are you ignoring me? :har:
I am...


Waitaminute :shifty:

Takeda Shingen
09-15-10, 07:32 PM
I'm sorry, did you all say something? :O:

Platapus
09-15-10, 07:57 PM
I am...


Waitaminute :shifty:


I am choosing to ignore you ignoring me :O:

oh rats I am doing it now. :oops:

Gerald
09-17-10, 06:02 PM
Orlando, Florida (CNN) -- The city of Gainesville, Florida, plans to send a bill estimated at more than $180,000 to Pastor Terry Jones for security costs surrounding his controversial threat to burn Qurans on the anniversary of the September, 11, 2001, attacks, a police spokeswoman said Friday.

Police agencies spent more than a month working on security plans to ensure the community surrounding Jones' Dove World Outreach Center -- the planned site of the burning -- was safe, according to Gainesville police spokeswoman Cpl. Tscharna Senn.

Jones also told authorities he received numerous death threats because of the planned protest, which he called off amid increasing pressure from world leaders.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/09/17/florida.quran.pastor/index.html


Note:September 17, 2010 Updated 1915 GMT

FIREWALL
09-17-10, 06:14 PM
How do I add someone to the ignore list?

It's more fun to call them an arse. :haha:

tater
09-17-10, 06:17 PM
Sending a bill for security? That's BS.

krashkart
09-17-10, 09:53 PM
May as well bill him. Same happens to people who start a wildfire whether they intended to or not.

tater
09-17-10, 10:00 PM
May as well bill him. Same happens to people who start a wildfire whether they intended to or not.

A wildfire is not a 1st Amendment exercise.

The precedent is that if anyone says anything that anyone disagrees with, then they need to be billed for security charges.

Or is it only with groups like Muslims who are legitimate security threats merely by membership in a religion? Anyone accepting this "bill" accepts that Muslims are de facto, legitimate security threats—offend any muslim, and murder might happen. Do you agree with that?

krashkart
09-17-10, 10:22 PM
A wildfire is not a 1st Amendment exercise.

The precedent is that if anyone says anything that anyone disagrees with, then they need to be billed for security charges.

Or is it only with groups like Muslims who are legitimate security threats merely by membership in a religion? Anyone accepting this "bill" accepts that Muslims are de facto, legitimate security threats—offend any muslim, and murder might happen. Do you agree with that?

It's been proven time and again that someone will die if the raging hordes see or hear anything that offends their superior dignity. Hear about that gal that went into hiding because they got upset over her "Draw Mohammed" page? Meanwhile it is perfectly okay in their book to hijack airplanes and blow up marketplaces full of mothers and children. We cannot confront them and point out how stupidly they are behaving... for what good might come of it. (Kinda frustrating, actually) :-?

Anyway, back to the original point: better for Jones to pay for his security than to dump the mess into our laps. Aren't LE agencies underfunded as it is? :rotfl2:

Platapus
09-18-10, 01:56 PM
I would be interested in reading the legal precedence for charging for security.

If the county chose to spend 180K on security, how can an individual be financially responsible?

The individual did not make, nor did they have the authority to make, the decision to spend 180K. Officials of the county made, and had the authority to make the decision to spend 180K.

Even if the individual asked for "security" from the county, charging them for it would require either an agreement allowing the charging or a regulation requiring the charging. I am not aware of either occurring.

This is an interesting legal question that has ramifications.

From a practical stand point it is moot as this church is bankrupt and in default of other obligations. I doubt this church can scrape up $1,800 no less 180K?

tater
09-18-10, 02:05 PM
A city with a leadership of one party—say Washington DC—might charge outrageous security fees for political rallies that are counter to their political POV.

Really bad idea.

Gerald
09-18-10, 06:30 PM
Everything has its price, which IMO he and his supporters should have thought of that before this started that this has implications not only in FL, but in many other ways, even if he is an idiot, you can probably think of a person "also

tater
09-18-10, 06:40 PM
It's explicitly protected, political speech. Being charged for it is without question infringement of his freedom of expression.

Gerald
04-17-11, 10:43 AM
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The pastor who stoked violence in Afghanistan earlier this month by burning a Koran in March produced a recording on Saturday that he said proved he was deceived last September when he agreed to cancel plans to burn 200 copies of the Koran.

The pastor, Terry Jones, played the recording — which he said was made on Sept. 9 on his assistant’s iPhone — of a conversation between him and Imam Muhammad Musri, an Islamic leader in Florida. At the time, Mr. Musri was trying to persuade Mr. Jones not to burn the Korans as part of a demonstration on Sept. 11.

After the Sept. 9 meeting, Mr. Jones announced that as part of a deal brokered by Mr. Musri to relocate a proposed Islamic center near ground zero in New York, he would not burn the 200 Korans. But almost immediately after the announcement, Mr. Musri, who had attended a news conference with Mr. Jones, told reporters that he had made no such deal and no such promise. The pastor, he said, had backed down because of pressure from President Obama and the rest of the world.

“This does definitely prove he lied to the news media and has lied the whole time,” Mr. Jones said from behind his desk, on which rested a pistol, a Bible and a rental copy of the film “Se7en.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/us/17jones.html?ref=world

Update Record, April 16, 2011

the_tyrant
04-17-11, 10:58 AM
hmm, I wonder if the guy will end up imitating se7en

Tribesman
04-17-11, 11:07 AM
Do you think Jones was a little upset at Musri saying the pastor was the same as Anjem Choudray?
So that would be a small minded bigot with twisted religious views no real following and a insane desire to get on the news by announcing dumb stunts.:yep:
Come to think of it are Choudray and Jones just a pair of dumb stunts?

yubba
04-17-11, 08:59 PM
Gee burning is so old school, how about thrown into a wood chipper and blown up a pigs butt.

tater
04-19-11, 08:23 AM
Lady Gaga apparently has a song considered "blasphemous" by the Catholic League. When the inevitable murders take place (blasphemy is "fighting words, right?), will she be blamed for her blasphemy, or will the press blame the poor people incited to violence by her lack of respect?

AVGWarhawk
04-19-11, 08:46 AM
Lady Gaga apparently has a song considered "blasphemous" by the Catholic League. When the inevitable murders take place (blasphemy is "fighting words, right?), will she be blamed for her blasphemy, or will the press blame the poor people incited to violence by her lack of respect?

Lady Gaga only does what she does for publicity and gaining market share for her crap music. It is all about album sales for Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta