UBI drop DRM for RUSE [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

THE_MASK

08-11-10, 07:11 PM

Thats why i reckon we dont have another patch . The no drm patch is made and another patch would break the no drm patch .

SteamWake

08-11-10, 07:24 PM

Curious news.

I havent heard how is sales of RUSE doing?

It looked like an interesting title but the DRM gave me pause.

Gato76

08-11-10, 07:59 PM

Wow,here is the link http://steamcommunity.com/games/RUSE/announcements/detail/181455308737447074

Madox58

08-11-10, 10:36 PM

Thats why i reckon we dont have another patch . The no drm patch is made and another patch would break the no drm patch .

The original source code probably did not have DRM.
Just like the original source code for SH3 did not include Star Force.
(Check the file dates on no Star Force versions sold now!)
So a no DRM version is most likely sitting somewhere.

makman94

08-11-10, 11:09 PM

......
So a no DRM version is most likely sitting somewhere.

yes Privateer ! BUT...where ? :D

(i am joking...although i totally agree with you...it is ,for sure,...somewhere)

Madox58

08-11-10, 11:20 PM

yes Privateer ! BUT...where ? :D

(i am joking...although i totally agree with you...it is ,for sure,...somewhere)

I'd think it's locked up tight by UbiSoft right now.
(Not that some people aren't looking remove it properly. :haha:)

Hartmann

08-11-10, 11:48 PM

Could be that DRM finaly killed the 1.3 patch ?? they have a 1.2 no DRM and don´t want to make a 1.3 patch.

Also with this way they can shut down SHV servers early ( $$ ) compared if they released a 1.3 DRM patch

janh

08-12-10, 03:58 AM

That is an interesting sign... Maybe they have figured by now that Uplay is a U-Antisales?

Arclight

08-12-10, 05:45 AM

U-play has nothing to do with it.

Alex

08-12-10, 06:28 AM

Ubisoft has stated they will drop their DRM for ruse and will be using steam instead.
Not being familiar at all with that sort of stuff... May I ask what's the difference between ubi's drm and steam ? :hmmm:

Jimbuna

08-12-10, 06:44 AM

Not being familiar at all with that sort of stuff... May I ask what's the difference between ubi's drm and steam ? :hmmm:

You can play Steam applications/games whilst offline if you use the correct settings.

Arclight

08-12-10, 06:47 AM

Ubisoft requires an "always on" connection; the game pings a server constantly and pauses/quits if there is no response. Having a download running in the background, for example, is likely to disrupt your game, and some games, like Splinter Cell Conviction, don't even need that to be flakey.

Steam just requires you to login, after that you can use it, even if the connection fails. You can even restart Steam in offline mode, so you don't need a connection at all anymore. You need to login online before you can switch though, so the argument some use that Steam games don't require a connection at all is simply false, at least to some extent.

* darnit Jim :lol:

Zachstar

08-12-10, 06:48 AM

Also Steam gives you far more. Achievements, Steamworks, updates, IM, Voice chat etc...

As DRM goes it is by far the best.

Alex

08-12-10, 06:59 AM

Thanks for the quick reply, guys !

:up:

TDK1044

08-12-10, 07:05 AM

Ubisoft finally figured out that there were more people manning the servers than buying the game. :)

Jimbuna

08-12-10, 08:00 AM

Ubisoft finally figured out that there were more people manning the servers than buying the game. :)

Any guestimate on numbers? :hmmm:

:03:

TDK1044

08-12-10, 08:27 AM

So, will Ubisoft now release a new, downloadable, patched version of the game for offline play? If they do, I might actually buy the thing.

Task Force

08-12-10, 08:30 AM

I dont think they will do anything for sh5, it wont bring in any large ammounts of new profit.

TDK1044

08-12-10, 08:32 AM

I dont think they will do anything for sh5, it wont bring in any large ammounts of new profit.

I agree. It would be easy to do for a downloadable version though. :)

Alex

08-12-10, 08:42 AM

@ TF : It's worth a try...
After all, SH5 is not in condition to *cough* be played properly :D in its current state, according to Dan himself.

TDK1044

08-12-10, 08:45 AM

With minimal effort on Ubisoft's part, they could offer a 'No DRM' downloadable version of the game. I think they would see more additional sales than they think. :)

Alex

08-12-10, 08:48 AM

Fair enough. :yep:

PL_Andrev

08-12-10, 09:23 AM

And what does new community manager in ubisoft SH5 forums say about it?

danlisa

08-12-10, 09:33 AM

No comment :p

(What else do you expect)

Could be interesting on Ruse's part going to Steam. Rumour has it that certain consoles (oh no, that dreaded word :D) will be moving to Steam to allow PC > Console match ups. Portal 2, I'm looking at you.

I wonder if Ubi will do the same for other titles.

himlaviz

08-12-10, 01:43 PM

Good news indeed.

While I dislike the DRM (mostly of any kind) I still bought SHV (big mistake) as my connectivity to the net seem to be more stable then UBI can run a professional always online gaming service :P

Now I am not buying another UBI product until they properly fix SHV, which seems very unlikely and this RUSE game looks kind of fun, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

I hope nothing really great is released from them (UBI) that I cant resist... :D But RUSE is not it...

Los

08-12-10, 02:03 PM

Bit confused here.... I get that SH5 may move to Steam... but what the heck does RUSE have to do with it??

Arclight

08-12-10, 02:12 PM

Huh? It's news that OSP has been dropped for RUSE. What the heck does SH5 have to do with it? :O:

Takeda Shingen

08-12-10, 02:53 PM

Bit confused here.... I get that SH5 may move to Steam... but what the heck does RUSE have to do with it??

Thread Cliff's Notes:

They are saying that the fact that Ubisoft has dropped the intention to use DRM, in favor of Steam, for a title [RUSE] gives hope that it may be retracted for other titles, including SH5.

Privateer said that this was possible due to the fact that the source code likely did not have the DRM included.

Jim reminded everyone that Steam can be used in offline mode.

Danlisa posted to remind us that he plays console games.

Sailor Steve

08-12-10, 03:09 PM

And it won't do me any good, because Steam doesn't believe I'm within their area and won't sell to me.

Takeda Shingen

08-12-10, 03:12 PM

Thread Cliff's Notes:

They are saying that the fact that Ubisoft has dropped the intention to use DRM, in favor of Steam, for a title [RUSE] gives hope that it may be retracted for other titles, including SH5.

Privateer said that this was possible due to the fact that the source code likely did not have the DRM included.

Jim reminded everyone that Steam can be used in offline mode.

Danlisa posted to remind us that he plays console games.

Addendum:

Steve then called Steam a bunch of fuddy-duddies.:O:

609_Avatar

08-12-10, 03:30 PM

Thread Cliff's Notes:

Wow, great job summing up the thread. I wish you'd do that for a few others around hear I don't seem to follow... :)

And it won't do me any good, because Steam doesn't believe I'm within their area and won't sell to me.

Really? That sucks! :(

609_Avatar

08-12-10, 03:30 PM

Addendum:

Steve then called Steam a bunch of fuddy-duddies.:O:

I think I'd choose a few more colorful adjectives myself. :D

robbo180265

08-12-10, 04:25 PM

Addendum:

Steve then called Steam a bunch of fuddy-duddies.:O:

Masterfully put:salute:

Seeadler

08-12-10, 05:33 PM

R.U.S.E. is developed by Eugene Systems, a French company which not belongs to Ubisoft. They use Ubisoft only as publisher like they use Atari as publisher for their former games.

Ubisoft said yesterday in an interview for the German Gaming magazine PCGames that R.U.S.E is an exception, because the multiplayer part is based on the Steamworks API. For further own Ubisoft developments, the majority of the upcoming games will continue to use the Ubi-launcher DRM system.

Reece

08-12-10, 08:23 PM

With minimal effort on Ubisoft's part, they could offer a 'No DRM' downloadable version of the game. I think they would see more additional sales than they think. :)A DVD version!:yep: one of the reasons that a lot of people including myself don't have the game is due to poor or no internet connection!:oops:

Sailor Steve

08-12-10, 08:58 PM

Addendum:

Steve then called Steam a bunch of fuddy-duddies.:O:
I did? :o

Man, the things I miss when I'm not around.

Wait, whut? :dead:

Reece

08-13-10, 12:26 AM

I did? :o

Man, the things I miss when I'm not around.

Wait, whut? :dead:Foot in mouth again Steve!!:yep:

Adriatico

08-13-10, 01:34 AM

Hey guys... don't be too optimistic.

If Ubi had that "market sense" that you are dreaming here... they would not cause this disaster in a first place...

I fear even bigger disaster... they might well screw-up pending SoW:BoB if Oleg's diplomatic skills do not prevail ...
:dead:

himlaviz

08-13-10, 03:01 AM

Jimbuna

08-13-10, 04:17 AM

I did? :o

Man, the things I miss when I'm not around.

Wait, whut? :dead:

LOL :DL

Next time your away from the pooter be sure to leave the radar switched on :ping:

Adriatico

08-13-10, 07:21 AM

I thought SoW:BoB was released by 1C themselves?

Hopefully... :hmmm:

Task Force

08-13-10, 08:00 AM

Hopefully... :hmmm:

Yes, Oleg is getting 1C to publish SOW: BOB.

609_Avatar

08-13-10, 08:08 AM

Yes, Oleg is getting 1C to publish SOW: BOB.

Yup, after getting burned by UBI with the Pacific Fighters box art fiasco and the resulting threat of a lawsuit and having to pay fines I think he saw where UBI was coming from and what might be better for him and his company's future. :)

Adriatico

08-13-10, 11:13 AM

Yup, after getting burned by UBI with the Pacific Fighters box art fiasco and the resulting threat of a lawsuit and having to pay fines I think he saw where UBI was coming from and what might be better for him and his company's future. :)
Well... if anybody on this planet would be more attracted to this title by Ubi... rather than Oleg's brand - such a "creature" does not deserve to take off with SoW project !

If only Romanian guys have changed the title of SH5 project - avoiding Ubi "smartness" with a brand rights... and have released this title 12 months later as finished offline sub-sim... they would become a market brand themselves... just as Oleg did!

John Channing

08-13-10, 12:37 PM

Of course that would have required that they all quit their jobs as Ubisoft employees and invest their own money in a new develpopment and start from scratch...

Oleg was always an independant producer that used Ubisoft as his distributor. Ubisoft Romania is just that... Ubisoft Romania.

JCC

Takeda Shingen

08-13-10, 08:02 PM