[REL/WIP] Z-plan

[Karle94]

I have previously released the german H-39 class battleship. Now I also release the O class Battlecruiser. Both have there own campaign and weapons. They should not be used at the same time. I will also make ai versions of these ships.

H-39 class battleship
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-30_234444_765.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-30_234408_875.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-30_234356_921.jpg

http://www.chuckhawks.com/hclass.jpg
http://www.filefront.com/17156442/H-39_V2.1.rar/[/URL]

O class battlecruiser
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-19_132326_812.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-19_132334_484.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-19_132344_125.jpg

http://www.chuckhawks.com/opq_clas.jpg
(http://www.filefront.com/16660807/H-39_V2.0Full.rar)
[URL]http://www.filefront.com/17156510/O_Battlecruiser_V1.1.rar/

Please comment. Any changes will be based on feedback.

[yamatoforever]

GREAT!!! WOW!!! WONDERFUL WORK!!!! :up::up::up:

Are planned the cruiser M and battle cruiser P ?

Your permission for the conversion to SH3 is still current?

[Karle94]

GREAT!!! WOW!!! WONDERFUL WORK!!!! :up::up::up:

Are planned the cruiser M and battle cruiser P ?

Your permission for the conversion to SH3 is still current?

I am pondering on those ships as they are a part of the Z plan.

You have my permission to converting these ships for SH3.

[yamatoforever]

I am pondering on those ships as they are a part of the Z plan.

You have my permission to converting these ships for SH3.
Top news! Thanks! :salute:

[Karle94]

I need some help in finding names for the twelve ships of the P class. Do you have any ideas? then please post it/them here.

[Karle94]

Found all twelve names by looking up all the battleships and battlecruiser of the Imperial German Navy. I also have the P class done. Here`s a couple of pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-21_163916_828.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-21_163927_437.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-21_163934_515.jpg

http://www.german-navy.de/pics/kriegsmarine/kreuzerp1.gif

[yamatoforever]

You are my hero! How does it get you in so short time to conjure these great models? Respect! :salute: :yeah: :up:

[Karle94]

You are my hero! How does it get you in so short time to conjure these great models? Respect! :salute: :yeah: :up:

Pictures as a reference, good 3d models and german naval design.

[Karle94]

The P class has been released. Download link beneath:
http://www.filefront.com/17156604/P_Cruiser_V1.1.rar/

[yamatoforever]

GREAT! FINE JOB! :rock::up:


Does the cruiser M-class follow now maybe?

[Karle94]

GREAT! FINE JOB! :rock::up:



Does the cruiser M-class follow now maybe?

Possibly.

[Karle94]

Got the new versions of the H class, O class, P class and a ship pack released.

H class
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-29_183001_968.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-29_183006_046.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-29_183036_125.jpg
http://www.filefront.com/17156442/H-39_V2.1.rar/

O class
Looks the same
http://www.filefront.com/17156510/O_Battlecruiser_V1.1.rar/

P class
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-07-29_182123_703.jpg
http://www.filefront.com/17156604/P_Cruiser_V1.1.rar/

And the ship pack containing ai versions of the South Dakota, Montana, G3 class, H-39, O class, P class and the japanese battleships Kii and Number 13 class.
http://www.filefront.com/17156777/Ship_Pack_V1.0.rar/

Check the read me`s for more details.

[yamatoforever]

Thanks! :up:

I am already glad about the M-Class cruiser!

[Karle94]

New version of the H class coming up soon. To wet your apetite here`s some pictures:

H-39 in Bergen
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-05_174156_201.jpg

H-39 sailing out for convoy raiding.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-05_174239_709.jpg

Another picture of her sailing out on convoy raiding.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-05_174301_647.jpg


Picture of her bow.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-06_001558_503.jpg


Linked up with a supply sub.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-06_011630_570.jpg


Sailing home from a sucessfull mission.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-07_165758_063.jpg

Following behind her will be the Admiral Hipper.
Gamefront: http://www.gamefront.com/files/20008319/H-39_V2.2.rar
Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?90yv0yvos4nk6a3

[Karle94]

H-39 version 2.2 officially released. Check the read me for further details as changes etc...

[Karle94]

Admiral Hipper coming up. Here`s a few pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-14_214040_219.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-14_214055_133.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-02-14_214104_265.jpg


Here`s the download links

Gamefront: http://www.gamefront.com/files/20008535/Admiral_Hipper_V1.0.rar
Mediafire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?x5luwzz7f5y7v5y

[Schwieger]

Any plans for H-45?

[Karle94]

Any plans for H-45?

H-39 is as big as I`m going to go. The H-45 would be too big and too powerful. No weapon could sink it. The Germans decided to stop production on H-41. The rest was just naval studies, ships never to be built.

[Schwieger]

No weapon could sink it.


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=153411&page=10

[Karle94]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=153411&page=10

The H-45 is supposed to be immune to 800 mm shells and the Tallboy bomb. The Titan has what? like nine 16 inch guns?

[yamatoforever]

Why Admiral Hipper? It's not a ship of the z-plan ....

[Karle94]

Why Admiral Hipper? It's not a ship of the z-plan ....

Actually they were. In the Z-Plan the German navy would have 5 heavy cruisers: Admiral Hipper, Blucher, Prinz Eugen, Seydlitz and Lutzow. The Seydlitz was being converted to a carrier and the Lutzow was sold to the Soviet Union after the cancellation of the Z-Plan.

[Krauter]

:D

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=154902

[dinoboat]

i downloaded your O battlecruiser and Hipper, but the O class BC only have black skin, and the hipper's missing it's cannons

[Karle94]

i downloaded your O battlecruiser and Hipper, but the O class BC only have black skin, and the hipper's missing it's cannons

Do you have both ships enabled at the same time? Do you have 1.5 with OM 7.20? Please give me a list of mods you use so I can help you.

[dinoboat]

i only activate RSRDC with OM, and i didn't play the ship at the same time, the H-39 works fine though

[Karle94]

i only activate RSRDC with OM, and i didn't play the ship at the same time, the H-39 works fine though

Try removing RSRDC as you won`t be needing it when playing the German campaign.

[dinoboat]

negative, still black

[dinoboat]

well now i encountered another problem, the secondary cannon on P cruiser fire, but the secondary cannon doesn't show visually

[Karle94]

well now i encountered another problem, the secondary cannon on P cruiser fire, but the secondary cannon doesn't show visually

Have never had any reports of problems like these so I don`t have a clue what to do. Strange that the H-39 works perfectly and the O class doesn`t.

[dinoboat]

here's the picture of the Hipper, note the missing cannon, only the controllable one visible, what's wrong with it?

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5857/hippermissingcannonweb.jpg

[Karle94]

here's the picture of the Hipper, note the missing cannon, only the controllable one visible, what's wrong with it?

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5857/hippermissingcannonweb.jpg

Are you sure you have Operation Monsoon enabled, if not it explains everything.

[dinoboat]

yes, i already enable OM

[Capt. Lindemann]

Hi, I have been loving the H39 for the past month, but now a few problems are apparent.

1: Damage model: This ship really doesn't have one does it? I was sunk from two salvoes from rodney hitting me. Not that big of an issue as it is hard to make a damage model.

2: I have been trying to repaint the 39 to look like the Tirpitz to no avail. I have edited the dds file but the ship does not change from the painted over Baltic camouflage. Is the paint hard coded to the model? Same for the 405mm armament, I want dunkelgrun tops(http://www.shipcamouflage.com/images/kriegsmarine4.jpg) but no change with the paint or the scheen of them.

[rein1705]

Karle94, do your boats require OM to work? i currently have TMO installed but id love these babys to use on the German side in the Indian campaign.
Best regards Rein.

[Karle94]

Karle94, do your boats require OM to work? i currently have TMO installed but id love these babys to use on the German side in the Indian campaign.
Best regards Rein.

Indeed they need OM to work correctly.

[nomadBLN]

hi karle great job with the ships.
but i've the same problem like dinoboat.
om and omegu enabled

[Wektras]

Hi! These ships are great, but i have an issue. All guns are visible except the controllable one. I also spotted that AA and other deck guns will fire only when I'm mounted on them. I don't know is this a problem but the I'm on free view, camera can go thru' ship.
Mods I'm using:
OM v705
OM v705 to v720
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch7

[deceptiboat]

I also spotted that AA and other deck guns will fire only when I'm mounted on them.
Check the crew, do you have a crew that manned the Deck gun and the AA

I don't know is this a problem but the I'm on free view, camera can go thru' ship.
It is like that from karle, if you prefer the old camera, delete the cameras.dat in the mod's library folder (Data/Library)

[Karle94]

I know that in the past I said that I was not going to make this. I started to make the H-44 just to see how she would look in the game. My friends WilliamAamodt and Brewster convinced me to finish the H-44. These pictures will show you why I had doubts that the H-44 will be practical in the game. In these pictures you will find all the capital ships in the German navy.

Size comparison between the Admiral Hipper, P class, Scharnhorst, O class, Bismarck, H-39 and the H-44. And yes that huge ship at the end is the H-44.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-06-0622-14-31-84.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-06-0622-15-06-11.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-06-0622-15-12-76.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-06-0622-15-25-48.jpg

So, what do you think? Practical or what?

[Schwieger]

Practical :)

[Brewster]

I'm in love with them and i want them !

Keep up the good work my friend!:salute:

[Karle94]

I have been working on this one all day and I have come as far as beta testing. I have found out that Saint Nazaire is just about the only place where you can start from while starting outside the harbor without running aground. She`s barely 1-2 meters from hitting the bottom. That is the reason for me being reluctant to make this mod.

[Brewster]

I have been working on this one all day and I have come as far as beta testing. I have found out that Saint Nazaire is just about the only place where you can start from while starting outside the harbor without running aground. She`s barely 1-2 meters from hitting the bottom. That is the reason for me being reluctant to make this mod.


Try if you can make the ship lighter so it wont be so deep in the water ?

even if i must sail if from Rotterdam tot the Pacific i wont care haha.

[Brewster]

Uhm i have the h-39 installed with jsgme but it wont appear in the game..

[Karle94]

Uhm i have the h-39 installed with jsgme but it wont appear in the game..

Are you sure that you followed the install instructions? If you did then the only thing that I know of that will cause this is that you have another ship for the German side activated.

[Brewster]

I've got it working :yeah: great boot. Know i want the H-44 really bad !

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Do all of your ships require Operation Monsoon? And where can I get it and what version do I need?

Thanks
Captain Rockwell Torry:-?

[Karle94]

Do all of your ships require Operation Monsoon? And where can I get it and what version do I need?

Thanks
Captain Rockwell Torry:-?

All the German ships require OM to work properly. Any versions of OM with or without OMEGU should wotk fine. OM and OMEGU can be found in the Downloads section.

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Thanks for the info Karle94. I haven't got to try your ships out yet, but they look great and I complement you on your work. I've been out of touch for about two years not having internet access again until recently. I used to do some modding for the old Destroyer Command game and had some of the old mods for SH4. But I'm having to start all over again and redownload SH4 mods. However it looks like the new mods are far better than what was available the last time I was out here. Anyway keep up the good work.

Thanks:salute:
Captain Rockwell Torry

[Brewster]

I have been working on this one all day and I have come as far as beta testing. I have found out that Saint Nazaire is just about the only place where you can start from while starting outside the harbor without running aground. She`s barely 1-2 meters from hitting the bottom. That is the reason for me being reluctant to make this mod.


I was thinking.. in these days Rotterdam and a Brazil harbor are the deepest.. so maybe look at the options of starting at Rotterdam or Brazil ?

I don"t know much about pre-war Rotterdam because we were blow away by the germans but i guess it was pretty deep then to..

[Karle94]

So... I have done some teting. I might have overexagerated the problem with shallow water. If you start at Brest, Saint Nazaire and Kiel everything should be fine. As long as you start outside the harbor.

I also made three new shells cause the biggest you get in the game is 16 inch shells. A merchant sinks specacularly with only one shell. I also tested it against the Sovetsky Soyuz. With armor level at 85 and hitpoints at 50000 she starts to go down bow or aft first while listing. Takes some time for the unit to be destroyed though. I made an AP shell, HE shell and an AA shell. She will be ready soon. For those of you that`s impatient I might release a beta version if you ask for it.

[Brewster]

So... I have done some teting. I might have overexagerated the problem with shallow water. If you start at Brest, Saint Nazaire and Kiel everything should be fine. As long as you start outside the harbor.

I also made three new shells cause the biggest you get in the game is 16 inch shells. A merchant sinks specacularly with only one shell. I also tested it against the Sovetsky Soyuz. With armor level at 85 and hitpoints at 50000 she starts to go down bow or aft first while listing. Takes some time for the unit to be destroyed though. I made an AP shell, HE shell and an AA shell. She will be ready soon. For those of you that`s impatient I might release a beta version if you ask for it.

I want it i want it i want it :yeah::yeah::yeah:

[Karle94]

Hera ya go:
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20423623/H-44_V1.0.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?gwaxibkkk0ia6gz

[Brewster]

Thanks!

Gamefront link didn't work. mediafire did work.

I will get back tot tell you of it worked.

[Karle94]

Thanks!

Gamefront link didn't work. mediafire did work.

I will get back tot tell you of it worked.

You just have to wait a moment. It works now.

[Brewster]

Alright nice nice nice boat.

But :

Maybe some more side guns ? it looks so weak on the side.
Well nothing more to say its a great boat cant wait till the full working version.

[Karle94]

Alright nice nice nice boat.

But :

Maybe some more side guns ? it looks so weak on the side.
Well nothing more to say its a great boat cant wait till the full working version.

Actually she was designed with 12 six inch secondaries, six turrets, two barrels. She also would be armed with 16 10,5 cm Flak guns, eight turrets two barrels. Number of medium and light AA varies from source to source.

[Brewster]

Well on the sides it looks so weak and i don't give a damn of historic correctness.

The sides are missing real fire power buts thats just my opinion.

[Karle94]

Well on the sides it looks so weak and i don't give a damn of historic correctness.

The sides are missing real fire power buts thats just my opinion.

The sides don`t really need much firepower cause she got eight 20 inch guns, that`s 508mm, 50,8 cm. The secondary batteries are for destroyers and light cruisers.

[Brewster]

The sides don`t really need much firepower cause she got eight 20 inch guns, that`s 508mm, 50,8 cm. The secondary batteries are for destroyers and light cruisers.


I Know i Know but she looks so bold on the sides haha.

[Brewster]

Oh and btw : the rear guns go trough the plane so maybe get the plane of.

[joeytom_97]

Is the H44 playable?

[Brewster]

Is the H44 playable?



yes she is. but it is a beta version.

[joeytom_97]

I cant seem to find it when starting a career:nope:

[joeytom_97]

Found it:salute: But it has black turrets and when you try to use them you cant see any thing:nope:

[Brewster]

Found it:salute: But it has black turrets and when you try to use them you cant see any thing:nope:

As said, its a beta version. Karle uploaded it because i wanted to see it badly

[bradshawja]

This is awesome, congrats and thanks to the creator of these ships, I have always been fascinated with the ships of the z-plan especially the h-class battleships. Its awesome to be able to play them.

I haven't downloaded the h-44 beta yet, is it built to the historical specifications? 345 m in length?

[Karle94]

This is awesome, congrats and thanks to the creator of these ships, I have always been fascinated with the ships of the z-plan especially the h-class battleships. Its awesome to be able to play them.

I haven't downloaded the h-44 beta yet, is it built to the historical specifications? 345 m in length?

Yep.

[bradshawja]

Awesome, that's a massive ship, just wondering does it have any trouble getting into ports?

I was under the impression that Germany didn't have ports big enough for the h-44 or h-43 to use. Or does that not matter in the game?

[jhapprich]

right. no suitable ports, not enough fuel, no use at all. but ingame you can make refrigerators fly...

[bradshawja]

Haha yea I see your point, well I cant wait to play and wreak some havoc with this behemoth.

[Karle94]

Haha yea I see your point, well I cant wait to play and wreak some havoc with this behemoth.

Brest and Saint Nazaire works fine the rest, well you get grounded and die extremely slow.

[Schwieger]

H44 larger/heavier than Yamato?


(still waiting for H-45 :lol:)

[Karle94]

H44 larger/heavier than Yamato?


(still waiting for H-45 :lol:)

Yamato is 263 meter long, 39 meter wide. Armed with nine 18 inch guns, weights 72000 tons full load. H-44 is 345 meter long, 54 meter wide, armed with 8 20 inch guns and weights 131000 tons standard weight. H-45 will never be made by me. I wasn`t even supposed to make the H-44 either, but a couple of friends convinced me to make it.

[Schwieger]

Looks like a pretty hefty margin of weight difference. I've it downloaded - trying to get used to its size :)

[Brewster]

Yamato is 263 meter long, 39 meter wide. Armed with nine 18 inch guns, weights 72000 tons full load. H-44 is 345 meter long, 54 meter wide, armed with 8 20 inch guns and weights 131000 tons standard weight. H-45 will never be made by me. I wasn`t even supposed to make the H-44 either, but a couple of friends convinced me to make it.


I have a good mind changing effect on people Haha.

[MSpencer]

Hi, love these addons so far, had great fun with the Hipper raiding convoys, and then took out the H39 to do some raiding prior to Op. Weserubung. I made short work of a Revenge class BB and her escorts... very cool. Later I tried to raid Scapa Flow though, and got wiped out by a few shells from a Revenge and a light cruiser, so perhaps something's up with the damage model?

Also, the O class seems to have no guns except the main cannon controlled by the user. I've got OM 720 and OMEGU 3.00 installed, and using the O-class alone (no other ships enabled at the same time), so I'm not sure what it could be.

[Schwieger]

Hit magazine maybe?

[MSpencer]

Hit magazine maybe?
Possibility, that's how I killed the first ship, but I had largely knocked out the Revenge class and was mostly taking fire from the cruiser at that point. First time it's gotten close though, I was a bit over-confident and was blinded by the desire to sink a carrier, didn't notice the battleship until I was committed and didn't have room to turn around.


Also I tried combining the H39 and O-class files (without replacing anything) to see if it was just some missing resources present in the H39 files, and still no joy with the O-class turrets.

[Gruvn]

I've tried for the life of me to get the H-39 to work and the hipper. Can't seem to find them in the campaign. I am running latest OM as well. No other mods installed.

nvm figured it out gonna give her a test :)

[chrysanthos]

karle your ships are great bu i am afraid that i have to face that problem....i am refering to 1 shot kill you know...on shell hit and the ship explodes....

[Brewster]

karle your ships are great bu i am afraid that i have to face that problem....i am refering to 1 shot kill you know...on shell hit and the ship explodes....

then its you're aim..

Try if its a insta kill when you hit the rudder.

[Karle94]

karle your ships are great bu i am afraid that i have to face that problem....i am refering to 1 shot kill you know...on shell hit and the ship explodes....

Witch ship are you using? and what ship is exploding, playable ship or AI?

[Brewster]

i never have this problem...

[Arma2_SH4_Fan]

Cool ships! Thx .... even if it never existed! :up:

[Brewster]

Cool ships! Thx .... even if it never existed! :up:

There were building plans :up:

[Karle94]

I am going to update my H-39. I am currently making a new 3D model based on the Bismarck from SHV. If there are anything you want added then by all means, make requests.

[Karle94]

This won`t be a replacement if you guys think the old one is better.


Here are some pics of what I`ve got so far:


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-08-2922-49-18-73.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-08-2922-49-46-81.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-08-2922-49-54-58.jpg

[Fish In The Water]

Some really terrific work in here. Congratulations and thanks for sharing with the community! :yeah:

[USS Drum]

Can you please finish the H-44 because I don't like black guns. It did great in Kiel it didn't touch the bottom in fact it had 7 meters to spare. I you do finish it I'll be happy. Invincible to everything well, no it blew up and sunk when I crashed into a dock:rotfl2:. It would also probably sink if it got into a minefield.

[Bunkerw0808]

:06::timeout:

Hipper got black AI guns I HAVE OPS MONSUN INSTALLED!

ops monsun 705
ops monsun 705/720
ops monsun 720 patch 5

ANSWER ME BEFORE MY HEADS GOING THROUGH THAT WALL:/\\!!:

[kms bismarck]

Hello, I cant download the O class becouse Filefront doesnt work anymore, please can someone give me another link...