[WIP] Career playable Red October

[Karle94]

At Rein1705`s request I dediced to make the Red October playable. I am planning to make her for 1.5 and FOTRS. I made her bigger and changed her engines layout.

This picture will show you what I mean:
http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/n834588585_873076_6074.jpg

Here`s a couple of pictures of her in-game:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_004844_328.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_004857_921.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_005024_421.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_005031_062.jpg

Feel free to comment or to make any seggestions

Mod release ETA:Released

Here`s the download link:
http://www.filefront.com/16785055/Red_October_1.5_V1.0.rar

NB:Silent Hunter 1.5 only.

[rein1705]

A suggestion only... would be nice to have some advanced torpedoes like the ones on the Ohio SSBN mod or the Cruise missiles :up:
She looks Beautiful by the way!

[Karle94]

A suggestion only... would be nice to have some advanced torpedoes like the ones on the Ohio SSBN mod or the Cruise missiles :up:
She looks Beautiful by the way!

I am going to make the Type 65 Torpedo as a replacement for the Mk 14.

[rein1705]

Any chance of a tower emblem or number?

[Karle94]

Any chance of a tower emblem or number?

What kind of emblem are we talking about. Also a number on the sail or hull is pointless as the Red October didn`t have any numbers.

[keltos01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KsdmlJX0Ss&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsL2WVhFCc&feature=related

love that boat !

keltos

[rein1705]

OH... guess your right. I don't know that much about markings on Russian subs and Red October was a Modified Typhoon class is pretty much all i know. I have the movie. I thought they made it too deaf and helpless but it was great. As for an emblem i dont kno

[rein1705]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KsdmlJX0Ss&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsL2WVhFCc&feature=related

love that boat !

keltos

That would make a bad ars opening theam!!!!!:rock:

[Karle94]

Got the torpedo ready. Here`s a couple of pictures:

Firing the Type 65.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-18_015045_484.jpg

Sank a lone destroyer. The poor ship broke in two after a single shot.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-18_015714_484.jpg

Put one in a Fuso, didn`t sink though. Accidentely ramed it. Forgot to turn away.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-18_020415_890.jpg
Looks like something has to be put in drydock for several months.

Sank the Yamato with two torpedoes.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-18_020457_171.jpg
So much for the pride of the Japanese navy.

[Karle94]

First version is out. Check other posts for pictures and #1 for download link.

[rein1705]

DL-ing it right now. Thanks Karle.:yeah:
Will try it without FOTRS for a while.
Would probably be neat with the russian crew sound mod.

[Schwieger]

At Rein1705`s request I dediced to make the Red October playable. I am planning to make her for 1.5 and FOTRS. I made her bigger and changed her engines layout.

This picture will show you what I mean:
http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/n834588585_873076_6074.jpg

Here`s a couple of pictures of her in-game:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_004844_328.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_004857_921.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_005024_421.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-06-17_005031_062.jpg

Feel free to comment or to make any seggestions

Mod release ETA:Released

Here`s the download link:
http://www.filefront.com/16785055/Red_October_1.5_V1.0.rar

NB:Silent Hunter 1.5 only.


Any chance on making it for 1.4?

[MGR1]

(Sean Connery Voice)

"They will tremble to the shound of our shilence.... Gentlemen, we shail into hishtory!".;):D

Looks good!:up:

Mike.

[rein1705]

(Sean Connery Voice)

"They will tremble to the shound of our shilence.... Gentlemen, we shail into hishtory!".;):D

Looks good!:up:

Mike.

lol theres no radar that i could find on this boat. Boy she's big though.

[Karle94]

lol theres no radar that i could find on this boat. Boy she's big though.

Yeah she is. Around 198 meters long, 26 meters wide and almost 50000 tons. She`s as big as an old battleship in physicle size and almost as heavy as the Bismark.

[Sniper_Fox]

no chance at a catapillar? :salute:

[runningdeer]

Hi, thanx for the mod. I thought I would try it out. I disabled my regular mods and only have GFO with Websters clear water mod.

I cannot get it to dive, I tried crash dive & periscope depths but it just stays on the surface. Any ideas what I need to do?

Thank you :salute:

[Karle94]

no chance at a catapillar? :salute:

Don`t know anything that matches a caterpillar drive.

Hi, thanx for the mod. I thought I would try it out. I disabled my regular mods and only have GFO with Websters clear water mod.

I cannot get it to dive, I tried crash dive & periscope depths but it just stays on the surface. Any ideas what I need to do?

Thank you :salute:

Use time comnpression. She takes time to go under.

[Marka Ragnos]

Or you can change the submerged displacement, i changed it and the red october dives in about 40 seconds.

[Sniper_Fox]

yeah for a sub that big, i think they'd have many portholes for flooding tanks to get her sinking quick. that big shes a massive target for aircraft just at periscope depth.

[ETR3(SS)]

yeah for a sub that big, i think they'd have many portholes for flooding tanks to get her sinking quick. that big shes a massive target for aircraft just at periscope depth.Typhoons weren't made for the open ocean, but to sit under the arctic ice. Don't have to worry too much about aircraft up there.:yep:

[runningdeer]

Ok, it took roughly 30min to get to periscope depth.

Could somebody please instruct me as to how I can change displacement or whatever, so that i can dive faster?

Thanx for your time.

[ETR3(SS)]

Go into the units .sim file and you want the unit_submarine node and sub-node. In the Property Tree of the unit_submarine sub-node go down to Ballast and adjust the flood rate to your liking.

See picture here:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2201/newbitmapimager.jpg

[runningdeer]

Thanx for the reply, is there any way to do it without using the 3d editor?

[ETR3(SS)]

No.

[kiwi_2005]

Only problem with these large modern boats is we can't take them in shallow waters, their conning tower sticks out of the water at persicop depth. lol. The Ohio class is the same. I would love to take them into Tokyo bay and cause havoc. Only modern sub I can do it with or have tried is the Kilo, still fun anyways using these boats just remeber to avoid shallow waters.

[Sniper_Fox]

Aren't these subs made to not surface for months?

[Karle94]

Aren't these subs made to not surface for months?

That`s correct. If you play with high realism that won`t really be possible.

[Sniper_Fox]

co2 levels?

[Karle94]

co2 levels?

Yes, Co2 and compressed air has a limited supply and has to be replenished on the surface. This is something nuclear powered submarines don`t have to do since the reactor produces air.

[ETR3(SS)]

Yes, Co2 and compressed air has a limited supply and has to be replenished on the surface. This is something nuclear powered submarines don`t have to do since the reactor produces air.Let me go into more detail so there is no confusion about how a modern sub works. A nuclear reactor does not produce air. CO2, CO, H2, and O2 are all keep in balance by 3 different atmosphere control machines. A scrubber removes the CO2 from the air by using a chemical called monoethanolamine. A burner removes CO and H2 from the atmosphere and spits out CO2 and H2O. Oxygen is produced by an Electrolytic Oxygen Generator which breaks the bond between H2 and O in H2O to produce H2 and O2. The O2 either goes directly to the atmosphere or is stored in a series of flasks for later use.

Compressed air is one thing that that we still need to bring air from the outside inside in order to have any air to compress. Prior to submerging the boat you would be running your air compressors to get as much air as possible into the air banks. Once we submerge if we need to put more air into the banks we could run the compressors until the pressure in the boat dropped to a certain point. To get the pressure back up you use the snorkel while at PD to draw more air into the boat. Since it is possible to put a positive pressure in the boat, you would do just that to limit your time near the surface.

As far as the game is concerned, whenever I play one of the modern boats the first thing I do is shut off limited O2, everything else can be left on.

[Yamato_NF]

it bothers me how this mod has no Vertical Lauch Tubes... :down:
is this possible with the Red October's current state?
we can even ask Jhapprich for his model of a Russian ICBM :D
i also know that Jhapprich has succeeded in making VLS Tubes on his russian boats for his Cold Warriors: Steel Sharks mod.

so is it possible to implement it in this mod?
thanks, Yamato_NF

[Karle94]

it bothers me how this mod has no Vertical Lauch Tubes... :down:
is this possible with the Red October's current state?
we can even ask Jhapprich for his model of a Russian ICBM :D
i also know that Jhapprich has succeeded in making VLS Tubes on his russian boats for his Cold Warriors: Steel Sharks mod.

so is it possible to implement it in this mod?
thanks, Yamato_NF

You`re gonna have to ask Jhaprich to implement the VLS tubes as they are torpedo doors with animations. I don`t know how to do animations.

[bruko1156]

if Jhaprich does do the mod for us please let me know where to find the link. and if anyone can tell me how to change the number of stored torpedoes for the red october to a higher number that would be great... i cant seem to use the red october in career mode. any ideas?

[sidslotm]

Hi,

dam that is a lot of boat, love it, thanx

sid

[Karle94]

Hi,

dam that is a lot of boat, love it, thanx

sid

True, she is a lot of boat, even bigger than the regular Typhoon. Glad you like it.

[pantheo]

The [WIP] tag means this sub is going to be even more upgraded?
(I m just a damn newbee)

[Karle94]

The [WIP] tag means this sub is going to be even more upgraded?
(I m just a damn newbee)

Yes, I am making a new version that will have a new sail and dives better.

[pantheo]

Can't wait! :up: for the good work Karle. Load some homing torps (for the lazy folks out here :DL)

[Yamato_NF]

karle, i asked Jhapprich again since hes done with the Juliett and CWSS Beta test is out if he can spend some time on a VLS system for this boat.

dunno if he will do it..
but if he does.... :rock: THIS THING WILL BE THE ONLY MOD I NEED! :yep:

P.S. sorry if im necroing, id just like to see this boat in its full glory!

Yamato_NF

[Yamato_NF]

and no, JH said that he doesnt have time since he is making his own
Typhoon... ah well, ill make the tubes myself. :yep::shifty:

Yamato_NF

[Yamato_NF]

new Typhoon mod available!
Link to thread: http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167 (http://http://174.123.69.202/%7Esubsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167)

[merlinalva]

new Typhoon mod available!
Link to thread: http://http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167 (http://http://174.123.69.202/%7Esubsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167)


correct link : (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167 :salute:

[colonelCJ]

new Typhoon mod available!
Link to thread: http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167 (http://http://174.123.69.202/%7Esubsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184167)

This is Karl94's thread.
you dont wanna screw this one up too? :yep:

[Yamato_NF]

This is Karl94's thread.
you dont wanna screw this one up too? :yep:
:nope: nah, just informing people....

[USS Drum]

What kind of emblem are we talking about. Also a number on the sail or hull is pointless as the Red October didn`t have any numbers.

If you look closely in the beginning of the film Red October had a small number on her conning tower.:salute:

[Soviets of War]

I am a huge soviet fan and i was wondering if you could make it for 1.4

[gaul92]

Go into the units .sim file and you want the unit_submarine node and sub-node. In the Property Tree of the unit_submarine sub-node go down to Ballast and adjust the flood rate to your liking.

See picture here:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2201/newbitmapimager.jpg
ok the number I am new to this so forgive me to make it faster do you lower the number or raise? lol

[Karle94]

ok the number I am new to this so forgive me to make it faster do you lower the number or raise? lol

That and the drag factor for the dive planes.

[gaul92]

That and the drag factor for the dive planes.
so I raise the numbers?

[Karle94]

so I raise the numbers?

Yes.

[gaul92]

Yes.
this should be my last lol what do you mean by drag

[gaul92]

do I lower the drag or raise it

[Karle94]

do I lower the drag or raise it

Raise it.

[gaul92]

thanks. My next question sorry. On the egine power and egine rpm how to calulate that? Would be could to increase the speed of this sub lol

[Karle94]

thanks. My next question sorry. On the egine power and egine rpm how to calulate that? Would be could to increase the speed of this sub lol

That won´t increase the speed. For that, open the Propulsion and E_propulsion and edit the speed figures there.

[gaul92]

how to do I get the correct rpm and power #'s?

[Karle94]

how to do I get the correct rpm and power #'s?

The rpm and shp of the boat are the correct figures for a Typhoon class submarine.

[reflez]

hey when i try to use the mod i get a missing crewmanagement error that crashes the game any ideas

[Karle94]

hey when i try to use the mod i get a missing crewmanagement error that crashes the game any ideas

What mods are you using?

[reflez]

just this one, and i have uboat missions installed aswell

[Bubblehead1980]

I have an idea for the caterpillar drive.Perhaps it could be modded so when one orders "silent running" the drive kicks in.Perhaps the prop animation could be manipulated to stop but it's actually turning so you have propulsion as I imagine the propulsion itself is hard coded but the animation may be able to be manipulated as others are in SH 4.Not sure how silent one could make it but perhaps someone can.Perhaps use torpedo tube doors in the bow to open and act as the intakes as I remember in the movie when Ryan and Tyler were looking over the photos, Ryan asked if they were torpedo tubes.I am sure some of this has been thought of and its far beyond my modding abilities(what little I have) but just an idea.

[Karle94]

Two years, nearly two thousand downloads. This mod is the second most popular file on my Game Front account. If I only knew it would turn out like this when I first made this mod. Could`t have done it without you guys. :wah:

[Gibbs1]

I have an idea for the caterpillar drive.Perhaps it could be modded so when one orders "silent running" the drive kicks in.Perhaps the prop animation could be manipulated to stop but it's actually turning so you have propulsion as I imagine the propulsion itself is hard coded but the animation may be able to be manipulated as others are in SH 4.Not sure how silent one could make it but perhaps someone can.Perhaps use torpedo tube doors in the bow to open and act as the intakes as I remember in the movie when Ryan and Tyler were looking over the photos, Ryan asked if they were torpedo tubes.I am sure some of this has been thought of and its far beyond my modding abilities(what little I have) but just an idea.

I have already made a working caterpillar drive. You need SH4 1.5 with hydroxid engine system.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=195482

[Karle94]

I have already made a working caterpillar drive. You need SH4 1.5 with hydroxid engine system.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=195482

Have thought about that. I am sure many have.

[Char]

Karle,it's the RED OCTOBER! Who hasn't wanted to use this sub.

and also have a legitimate excuse to annoy the Mrs. with my horrible,horrible Sean Connery Inpersonation :D

[Gman135]

Hello All, i have read this forum topic for past couple days. I have some questions on the Red October. (FYI: I am new here, so forgive me if these have been answered before).

1. I have tweaked some of the values in the Ballast, so it submerges reasonably, but when it surfaces it doesn't really surface. It only goes half way and stops, is there a value or ratio i have to follow on the ballast? or is there something else i need to tweak?

2. @Gibbs1, i have read your topic on how you got the caterpillar drive to work. I was wondering if you have a tutorial on how you go the Hydrogen peroxide propulsion drive to incorporate with the Red October. I do have SH4 and the DLC (or Expansion Pack?) Wolves of the Pacific Uboat missions, is there an object i am suppose to get from a file to insert it in the Red October SIM file?

Before i forget, @Karle94, good job on the Sub. Really love it, but is there ballistic missile option i am forgetting to look for? That would be cool, if not then i don't mind.

[Cybermat47]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was referring to a member here! :oops:

[Popeye the Salior]

One thing your missing when Red October went silent she turned off her Screws and then engaged a caterpillar drive, made her dissapper.