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fgsr1969
05-29-10, 09:02 PM
dam sh5 needs a sh3 campaign mode. its one of the few things its missing. modders are doing an awesome job as far as making it look better and play better but that campaign in just my opinion needs alot of work.

kylania
05-29-10, 09:09 PM
Once we get the "final" patch, or at least confirmation that 1.2 was the final patch, I'm sure you'll see some work on one happening.

jwilliams
05-29-10, 11:04 PM
It would take alot of work to costomise the campaign. So i wouldnt expect to see a fully costomised campaign for a long time yet.

Royale-Adio
06-08-10, 03:50 AM
SH5 needs...

To be remade.

Into something more playable, more offline genre.

Sorry, I just dislike what Ubi turned this game into.

Don't get me wrong though, I LOVE the graphics but I also HATE the UI and the DRM. It just sucks.

severniae
06-08-10, 04:51 AM
SH5 needs...

To be remade.

Into something more playable, more offline genre.

Sorry, I just dislike what Ubi turned this game into.

Don't get me wrong though, I LOVE the graphics but I also HATE the UI and the DRM. It just sucks.

I don't think that its that drastic. Yes it has its flaws, but so has every single other SH title from day one! To be entirely honest, in my opinion it has been the most playable 'out of the box' SH release I've yet to see!

The campaign does need some work. I was hoping that after a few months or so UBI would release some DLC - like extra subs or a campaign extension or something. However looking at how badly the game did sales wise, I doubt we'll see any. Modding the campaign would be a lot of work, but is doable. So I'm fairly sure it will eventually happen!

McHibbins
06-08-10, 07:22 AM
dam sh5 needs a sh3 campaign mode. its one of the few things its missing. modders are doing an awesome job as far as making it look better and play better but that campaign in just my opinion needs alot of work.

Thatīs why I donīt play it anymore. +1 on what youīve said

JU_88
06-08-10, 07:37 AM
Sh5 needs 43-45 and the type 9,and it needs them badly.
No one want to have to mod either of those.

HKLE
06-08-10, 09:31 AM
Hi folks

I think, I shall never get my hands on SH5 - no offline version, patches leave a lot to be desired and - as stated above - a campaign which seems to be playable only through modding (unrealistic targets, start only on one date, scripted, only a few merchants or other ships) and so on.

I never thought, that I get bored from looking at the poor guys here in this and related forums struggling to get this piece going (the modders, the game "owners"). The more I read here, the less I want to even consider buying it.

I had a brief look at it at a friends house - the grahics are really nice, but playability ????

I think, the developers had an easy choice from the start - a very active community, a lot of documented expectations - and they decided to turn most of it down.

I think, the main reason for this decision was the fear, that the community was too small to make it a commercial success. So they went for this egoshooter type approach in favor over the old style command driven UI. Unfortunately, they obviously got cut in their development time, because UBI needed to test its new DRM scheme - the result was a pre-alpha version of the game at full price and a lot of frustrated customers !

The situation now seems worse than in the beginning - a few patches did not do any real good, the communication between UBI and its - SH5 - customer base is not existing - and the Modders are left alone with an almost impossible task.

Even if it has been discussed over and over (and I heatedly participated myself in the past) - but I really think, that this type of DRM does not fit on this type of game. While it may be successful in hindering some pirates, it may fail as overall commercial success, as a lot of customers turned away.

Of course, we will never see some figures on sales by UBI. But just the fact, that UBI is not communicating and rushing out only the most basic patches to an alpha-stadium game, suggests to me, that it is not such a great commercial success.

So - UBI - if you want to show some dedication - then go back to the drawboards and bring us some of the promises, which many of us expected to become true - the basic contents of SH3 + wolfpacks + + +

A walkable interiour and nicer graphics as trade off for just one U-boat type, for a boring campaign setup like this, for the "online slavery" with no rights just duties, for a lot less ships and so on - is a poor show .... honestly.

:shifty:

scrapser
06-08-10, 02:27 PM
...to be put down. Why did Ubisoft bother? I would really like to know the answer from them instead of speculation.

The Silent Hunter franchise desperately needs a new sponsor who has a genuine interest and the ability to develop submarine simulations to a reasonable degree of completion.

Ducimus
06-08-10, 03:15 PM
Sh5 needs 43-45 and the type 9,and it needs them badly.
No one want to have to mod either of those.

Out of curiousity, how hard would it be to put in 43-45? Will the game support it natively or would it be a major hack job to put it in?

Hartmann
06-08-10, 05:51 PM
Sh5 needs 43-45 and the type 9,and it needs them badly.
No one want to have to mod either of those.

I think the same, but people want to wait to the final patch and then start to unscrew the cover and dig in the "engine"

With more units,ships and subs and a new campaign

Some modder tried to dig in the campaign to see if could be possible two years more ?or if not another alternative campaign starting in 1943 and finish in 1945

JScones
06-09-10, 06:00 AM
Out of curiousity, how hard would it be to put in 43-45? Will the game support it natively or would it be a major hack job to put it in?
Naively I would suspect that adding the years to the campaign is the easy part - the harder question is does SH5 include the equipment, technologies and advancements made during those two years? Or would they have to be added? If the latter, then add in a liberal sprinkle of 3D modellers before anything is complete.

krashkart
06-09-10, 06:51 AM
Naively I would suspect that adding the years to the campaign is the easy part - the harder question is does SH5 include the equipment, technologies and advancements made during those two years? Or would they have to be added? If the latter, then add in a liberal sprinkle of 3D modellers before anything is complete.

Cross our fingers and hope it's the former. Has anyone given the data files a look yet?

The General
06-09-10, 07:30 AM
I think the same, but people want to wait to the final patch and then start to unscrew the cover and dig in the "engine"There will be no 'final patch' so if you're waiting for it before you Mod, then you're waisting time.

Sailor Steve
06-09-10, 09:48 AM
There will be no 'final patch' so if you're waiting for it before you Mod, then you're waisting time.
So how many more will there be? SH3 had four, SH5 had five, though we had to pay for the last one.

If they wait forever and another patch doesn't come, you can laugh and say "See? I was right!". If, however, they start putting massive amounts of work into it only to find they have to do it all over again, they'll be less likely to want to do all that work twice, or three times.

Any more wisdom?

Egan
06-09-10, 12:30 PM
Naively I would suspect that adding the years to the campaign is the easy part - the harder question is does SH5 include the equipment, technologies and advancements made during those two years? Or would they have to be added? If the latter, then add in a liberal sprinkle of 3D modellers before anything is complete.

This is entirely the issue. I doubt that the basics of the campaign are that much more complicated than with the previous two installations - adding new convoys or bases and so forth was relatively straight forward and I imagine it's not that much harder now.

But for an extended campaign you would need new ships for all the main players and the new ordnance for them. How about radar, u-boat snorts? New playable boats would pretty much be essential. Later marks of the VII are probably not impossible to get in there but would people settle for a Type IX with a Type VII interior?

I think a basic, modded campaign is probably doable right now but a full user revamp will be some time away. I would say at least 2 years from now. With SH3 we already had - in the base game - virtually everything we needed. With SH5 a lot of it will have to be created from scratch.