View Full Version : And the band plays on . . . to no one?
schlechter pfennig
05-16-10, 10:57 PM
I'm not sure which of the mods I've added changed this; I've added so many! :oops:
But I'm leaving Lorient for the first time, and boy has it changed! :O: Whilst departing (and trying not to run into anything :oops:) I heard in the distance a familiar song. Soooo . . . heading off via external, I found the source of the playing. Yep, it's my old familiar berth, with a happy crowd of musicians, and some very pretty nurses tossing roses . . . into an empty berth.
Could an AI sub be docked there, maybe? It looks so wierd to see the crowd sending off empty space (unless they'd already submerged at dock?:O:)
Sailor Steve
05-16-10, 11:02 PM
The stock game has you leaving Kiel from the sub pen (which didn't even exist until 1944) while the band played merrily away just two docks over.
One thing you can do is ignore it, but when you return dock at the old pier. That way you sneak out unnoticed, but return to a royal welcome!:sunny:
schlechter pfennig
05-16-10, 11:12 PM
One thing you can do is ignore it, but when you return dock at the old pier. That way you sneak out unnoticed, but return to a royal welcome!:sunny:
And no one deserves that better than me! :O::D
Sailor Steve
05-16-10, 11:19 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=930511&postcount=2
schlechter pfennig
05-16-10, 11:29 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=930511&postcount=2
:rotfl2::rotfl2:
Jankowski
05-17-10, 12:55 AM
hangon, if you served on a submarine in ww1, then you must be around a hundred and 30 years old! there is something im missing here.........
schlechter pfennig
05-17-10, 01:04 AM
hangon, if you served on a submarine in ww1, then you must be around a hundred and 30 years old! there is something im missing here.........
What you're missing is part of the original OP post:
Post your memories, claims, and flat out lies here.
:D
Jankowski
05-17-10, 06:32 AM
(some time later)
OOOAAHH! now i get it!
Jimbuna
05-17-10, 07:53 AM
I've imported the WAC animated sub pens into my GWX installation and moved the starting locations of the U-boats into said pens so the band is usually far enough away for me to be unaware of them.....but I do take your point http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif
Sailor Steve
05-17-10, 10:05 AM
I've imported the WAC animated sub pens into my GWX installation and moved the starting locations of the U-boats into said pens so the band is usually far enough away for me to be unaware of them.....but I do take your point http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif
Which brings me to a question: I can move ships around with no problem, but how do you change the starting position of your own boat?
bigboywooly
05-17-10, 10:30 AM
Which brings me to a question: I can move ships around with no problem, but how do you change the starting position of your own boat?
Whole world of hurt you are getting into now Steve,
lol
OK,
The Flotilla cfg in data/Cfgs controls the subs start point,
Flotilla0=902
TO0=940
NbStartingDate0=6
NbDate0=6
Emblem0=data/Emblems/SubEmblems/Flotillas/1st flotilla.tga
NbBases0=2
Base0_0=750;Kiel
Date0_0_0=1939
Month0_0_0=8
Date0_0_1=1941
Month0_0_1=5
DeparturePointLong0_0=1218360.000000
DeparturePointLat0_0=6521927.000000
Heading0_0=89.000000
Base0_1=751;Brest
Date0_1_0=1941
Month0_1_0=6
Date0_1_1=1944
Month0_1_1=8
DeparturePointLong0_1=-534395.000000
DeparturePointLat0_1=5805818.000000
Heading0_1=180.000000
NbUboats0=2
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1
The highlighted parts are what interests you
Note the LND
[Unit 267]
Name=Kiel
Class=NavalBase
Type=407
Origin=German
Side=0
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
CfgDate=19380101
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false
DockedShip=false
GameEntryDate=19380101
GameEntryTime=0
GameExitDate=19451231
GameExitTime=0
EvolveFromEntryDate=false
Long=1218360.000000
Lat=6521927.000000
Height=-15.530000
Heading=89.000000
Speed=0.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
RandStartRadius=0.000000
NextWP=0
[Unit 276]
Name=Brest
Class=NavalBase
Type=407
Origin=German
Side=2
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
CfgDate=19380101
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false
DockedShip=false
GameEntryDate=19400619
GameEntryTime=1200
GameExitDate=19440918
GameExitTime=1159
EvolveFromEntryDate=false
Long=-534395.000000
Lat=5805818.000000
Height=-17.000000
Heading=180.000000
Speed=0.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
RandStartRadius=0.000000
NextWP=0
Coordinates must match for both files if you want the band there.
I found the easiest way to do it is use mission ed and dump a IXD2 where you want to be - you can either create a new mis file or addon to SCR ( delete after ) - if adding to SCR give the unit a name you can search for easily enough.
Once you have located your boat where you want save then open your mis or scr and find that sub.
Take those coordinates and paste onto LND and Flotilla cfg.
Simples
You have a few kilometer radius - from the LND coordinates - where game will still work ok,cant recall exact figure.
Thats how the start at sea files work - different co ordinates.
Remember to change ALL entries on the Flotilla cfg for a particular port.
More than one Flotilla for example uses Kiel and Lorient.
Or you could be really clever and put one flotilla starting from the dockside with band and another flotilla starting next to a tender.
So depending on what flotilla you choose governs your start point.
SH4 had an option to start in or out of base so effectively you had 3 or 4 different start points.
Ramdomized if you chose the out of port option so you could be at a tender or somewhere else in the port or out at sea.
SH5 has removed that function.
Phah
Sailor Steve
05-17-10, 10:51 AM
Cool! Thanks, Mark, especially for the hint about using an AI boat to find the position. I never would have thought of that.:rock:
Jimbuna
05-17-10, 03:38 PM
Great response BBW....but perhaps even quicker and simpler way would be to d/l this mod and 'pinch/copy' the co-ordinates from the Campaign_LND Mis file and Flotilla CFG File......all Flotillas and German bases have been covered.
http://www.filefront.com/16022477/Wac-Animated-Sub-Pens-interior-start-for-GWX.7z/
bigboywooly
05-17-10, 11:32 PM
Aye
But now Steve can have a play himself
:har:
Sailor Steve
05-17-10, 11:46 PM
And we all know how much Steve likes to...waitaminute.:shifty:
Actually I'm thinking now that I won't be operating out of any subpens until I get my first transfer to France, and by the time I'm back in Kiel they'll be built there, so maybe I'll just wait awhile and then install both mods when I need them for France.
That way I don't have to do any work.:D
Jimbuna
05-18-10, 02:45 AM
And we all know how much Steve likes to...waitaminute.:shifty:
Actually I'm thinking now that I won't be operating out of any subpens until I get my first transfer to France, and by the time I'm back in Kiel they'll be built there, so maybe I'll just wait awhile and then install both mods when I need them for France.
That way I don't have to do any work.:D
Great idea :yeah:
@BBW.....Should give us time to replace all the co-ordinates and put them on a piece of land somewhere :03::DL
bigboywooly
05-18-10, 08:57 AM
Great idea :yeah:
@BBW.....Should give us time to replace all the co-ordinates and put them on a piece of land somewhere :03::DL
:har:
Done that myself a few times
:oops:
Jimbuna
05-18-10, 09:35 AM
:har:
Done that myself a few times
:oops:
I know...stick one on the Moltenort memorial with a small plaque "This site is reserved for Steve in U-***" :DL
Anyway...no time for slacking....hows them tests going? :hmmm:
:O:
Sailor Steve
05-18-10, 10:15 AM
You guys are just big meanies!:cry:
Jimbuna
05-18-10, 10:19 AM
BBW may be but as you well know I'm small and lithe :DL
hangon, if you served on a submarine in ww1, then you must be around a hundred and 30 years old! there is something im missing here.........
Of course it is .... that old lier Sailor Steve was already 50+ when he served in WW1, so he can't be 130 years old :nope:
frau kaleun
05-18-10, 12:02 PM
Of course it is .... that old lier Sailor Steve was already 50+ when he served in WW1, so he can't be 130 years old :nope:
Oh, much older than that.
Before he was Sailor Steve, he was Army Steve, and served as General Sherman's personal cook during the infamous March through Georgia.
The burning of Atlanta was actually an accident brought on when Army Steve attempted to prepare his famous Flaming Fajitas* for dinner one evening and things got out of hand.
*A recipe he learned from the natives of Mexico during his time with the Cortes expedition. True fact!
Sailor Steve
05-18-10, 12:40 PM
That's an out-and out fable! I was never a cook! I was point man! Why, if it wasn't for me there wouldn't have been a...waitaminute, what am I saying? If the Atlaneans find out...:shifty:
schlechter pfennig
05-18-10, 06:12 PM
That's an out-and out fable! I was never a cook!
Now, now. Don't be shy. You were quite the famous cook . . . well, infamous, perhaps.
Way back during the Peloponnesian War history shows you were a cook for Athens abourd one of her war galleys. Your bisquits (overbiously the progenituer of hard tack) had a reputaion for being hard as rocks. One day you'd outdone yourself, and they were so dense and hard the Captain ordered them stuffed in a canvas sack and dangled in front of the prow, in the hope that, at least, they'd ward off krackens.
Alas, the helmsman had partaken some of your mutton surprise that day, and was feeling a little green at the gills. So much so that he accidentally steered right into the port beam of an enemy galley. The Captain, feeling the shock of impact, which was quickly followed by loud cheers, cried out, "What happened?"
Well, as it turns out, those bisquits banged right through the hull and sank that enemy galley. And in answer to the Captain the crew replied, "We 'Steve'd' her side in!"
Well, the Captain, being a learned scholar, quickly corrected them. "It's not 'Steve'd'," he'd scolded. "That's present tense. The correct term is 'Stove'."
And that's why when one ship caves in the hull of another it's called 'stove in'.
And that's also how we all know you were a cook Steve! :O::03:
Sailor Steve
05-18-10, 06:26 PM
And on that note, I'm going out for dinner.
At least nobody will ever ask me to cook again.:D
Sailor Steve
05-18-10, 06:28 PM
BBW may be but as you well know I'm small and lithe :DL
That's because you were a meanie to your wife and she stopped feeding you.
Now you're said, which I guess makes you a Blue Meanie.
Jimbuna
05-18-10, 06:37 PM
Probably more like a smurf :DL
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