[WIP] Playable South Dakota & Montana

[Karle94]

I am making both the South Dakota and Montana. Both are career playable. I know that the Montana has been made a couple of times before, but I have always wanted a Montana that looked more like how the Montana was supposed to look like.

If there`s any questions, just ask.

South Dakota Class:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_class_battleship_(1939)
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k00001/k00445.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/bb-57-line.gif

Montana Class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Class
http://www.wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Misc/NeverWeres/Montana.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h93000/h93912.jpg

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/us_navy_pages/us_navy_battleship_photos/uss_montana_bb67_class/01_uss_montana_class.jpg

Here are the download links

South Dakota V 1.2:
http://www.filefront.com/17458912/South_Dakota_V1.2.rar

Montana V 1.1:
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20577817/Montana_V1.2.rar

[Karle94]

Here`s a couple of pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162316_125.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162051_078.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162057_062.jpg

Any changes will be based on the comments I get, so please comment.

[Senor_Droolcup]

Can't wait for this; please keep up the good work!

[Karle94]

Can't wait for this; please keep up the good work!

Maybe you won`t have to wait very long couse the Montana is pretty much finished.

[Marka Ragnos]

Looks really really good love those textures

[Senor_Droolcup]

I wish someone could build a realistic battleship fire control system interface for use in SH4. It would be great to have a real battleship simulator with these gorgeous SH4 graphics/textures.....

[kiwi_2005]

Here`s a couple of pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162316_125.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162051_078.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-04-23_162057_062.jpg

Any changes will be based on the comments I get, so please comment.

That's beautiful!

Im taking a liking to playing BB in SHIV, nothing better than cruising round the pacific blasting convoys not one or two ships but the whole convoy! :rotfl2:

:up:

[Karle94]

Just got the South Dakota ready to sail. Here`s some pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-25_071520_632.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-25_071535_554.jpg

[kiwi_2005]

:rock:That ship is a beauty, can't wait to try it out. :yeah:

[Overkill]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! :yeah: Great work on them. :salute:

[Karle94]

These ships are ready for download in post #1.

[Karle94]

Corrected a texture bug. I would advice those that already have downloaded this mod to download the new version.

[kiwi_2005]

Downloading now, thanks! :yeah:

[Lionfish298]

When folks make ships such as these, do they have interiors at all?

[rein1705]

nope, too much work. Just fleet boat interiors.

[rada660]

Just got the South Dakota ready to sail. Here`s some pictures:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-25_071520_632.jpg


http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-05-25_071535_554.jpg

im sorry to say but you make a mistake with the south dakota ( or maybe im just very blind or its the camera angle which fail me ) but the south dakota only have 4 dual 5" turret on each side not 5, and they are set that way '. .' ( the ' is a turret over the . which is another turret 1 stage lower ) and if im not mistaken you set 5 turret this way '. '.-

so let me quote from wikipedia as in the secondary armement ( the dual 5" im talking about ) :
Because South Dakota was built as a fleet flagship, the extra command and control space needed for these duties necessitated that the secondary battery be limited to sixteen 5-in (127 mm) 38 caliber Mark 12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%22/38_caliber_gun) guns in eight Mark 28 Mod 0 dual mounts, four on either side of the superstructure.

Its was the USS massachusetts, USS Alabama and USS indiana which had 5 turret, but those where late version, the USS South Dakota was basicly made for Flagship operation so needed space for their control that why only 4 turret :) but correct me if im wrong :) no personnal harm intend :P

or if you want to keep 5 turret youll have to compact them a bit :P
here 1 linik to picture of the USS massachusetts secondary armement :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/5_inch_turrets_aboard_USS_Massachusetts_%28BB-59%29.jpg
and one of the indiana:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/USS_Indiana_%28BB-58%29.jpg

but if you cant make them more compact its nto a big deal, i dotn want too look like a nerd knowing everything, and i dont know how to mod, its was onyl some fact i was saying there :)

[Karle94]

im sorry to say but you make a mistake with the south dakota ( or maybe im just very blind or its the camera angle which fail me ) but the south dakota only have 4 dual 5" turret on each side not 5, and they are set that way '. .' ( the ' is a turret over the . which is another turret 1 stage lower ) and if im not mistaken you set 5 turret this way '. '.-

so let me quote from wikipedia as in the secondary armement ( the dual 5" im talking about ) :
Because South Dakota was built as a fleet flagship, the extra command and control space needed for these duties necessitated that the secondary battery be limited to sixteen 5-in (127 mm) 38 caliber Mark 12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%22/38_caliber_gun) guns in eight Mark 28 Mod 0 dual mounts, four on either side of the superstructure.

Its was the USS massachusetts, USS Alabama and USS indiana which had 5 turret, but those where late version, the USS South Dakota was basicly made for Flagship operation so needed space for their control that why only 4 turret :) but correct me if im wrong :) no personnal harm intend :P

or if you want to keep 5 turret youll have to compact them a bit :P
here 1 linik to picture of the USS massachusetts secondary armement :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/5_inch_turrets_aboard_USS_Massachusetts_%28BB-59%29.jpg
and one of the indiana:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/USS_Indiana_%28BB-58%29.jpg

but if you cant make them more compact its nto a big deal, i dotn want too look like a nerd knowing everything, and i dont know how to mod, its was onyl some fact i was saying there :)

Actually, the entire ship is modelled after the Massachusets.

[rada660]

Actually, the entire ship is modelled after the Massachusets.

oh i see hmm good point here, but now i got this little problem in texturing, maybe you could fix that for me

http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/13/87/48/89/sh4img10.jpg

as you can see the 2 main turret got a somewhat different texture, what i know that the turret we can use and shoot with have the correct texture you setted but the 2 other turret dont have the texture why? and how to fix :)

[Karle94]

oh i see hmm good point here, but now i got this little problem in texturing, maybe you could fix that for me

http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/13/87/48/89/sh4img10.jpg

as you can see the 2 main turret got a somewhat different texture, what i know that the turret we can use and shoot with have the correct texture you setted but the 2 other turret dont have the texture why? and how to fix :)

Do you have any mods that will change the textures of the stock 16 inch guns? if so run them before this mod.

[rada660]

here in order the mod i normally use right now :
TMO 1.9
Poul-sound ( for better sound )
EAX ( patch to poul-sound )
new ship + yamato AA fix
Shell splash mod ( bigger splash for bigger shell )
South dakota ( or what ever the ship mod i use )

yet its not only happen to the south dakota, its was happening to Iowa and north carolina and then samethnig for your other ship the montana

[Karle94]

here in order the mod i normally use right now :
TMO 1.9
Poul-sound ( for better sound )
EAX ( patch to poul-sound )
new ship + yamato AA fix
Shell splash mod ( bigger splash for bigger shell )
South dakota ( or what ever the ship mod i use )

yet its not only happen to the south dakota, its was happening to Iowa and north carolina and then samethnig for your other ship the montana

The only mods I see that can change the files are TMO and new ships + Yamato AA fix. Try it without them. If it doesn`t work, then open the Guns_Radar_03.dat in data/Library/ShipParts in the main SH4 folder with S3D and see if there is a cammo texture there. Also none of my mods are compatible with TMO, RFB and FOTRS.

[rada660]

you were right its was the new ship + yamato AA fix which make the gun texture messed up, thx, its fixed now :)

[Senor_Droolcup]

I've been using your excellent Montana mod: LOVE IT!

It seems to work fine with FOTRS v1.3? Why do you believe it is incompatible with that Supermod? Campaigns seem to work fine; missions with the Montana sometimes start with the ship underwater and unable to fire or move, but otherwise it works fine. I've been playing with it all morning in FOTRS v. 1.3.

[Karle94]

I've been using your excellent Montana mod: LOVE IT!

It seems to work fine with FOTRS v1.3? Why do you believe it is incompatible with that Supermod? Campaigns seem to work fine; missions with the Montana sometimes start with the ship underwater and unable to fire or move, but otherwise it works fine. I've been playing with it all morning in FOTRS v. 1.3.

Well the only way to know is to test it with all the supermods. I do believe that if you try it with RFB and TMO you won`t have any crew members.

[Noor]

Montana don't work in SH4 1.5 career mode. She does not show up in the list of subs. What is the problem? Help me.

[Karle94]

Montana don't work in SH4 1.5 career mode. She does not show up in the list of subs. What is the problem? Help me.

Are you sure you have only 1.5? If you have any mods such as RSRDC, TMO, RFB or FOTRS this mod will not work.

[Noor]

I am absolutely sure, i have only 1.5 + playable iowa.

[Karle94]

I am absolutely sure, i have only 1.5 + playable iowa.

That says everything. You can`t have two playable ship mods at the same time as the last mod will overwrite all the files enabled from the first. If you have the Iowa after the Montana then I will reccomend that you deactivate it.

[Mauser KAR98K]

I absolutely love the mod. But, I'm running it under RFB 2.0 mod, and everytime I get close to a large land mass, or like tonight, a large task-force, it either throws my puter in a loop, or crashes out right. Possibly be my graphics card?

Can I run the RFB Montana class without RFB engaged?

[Karle94]

I absolutely love the mod. But, I'm running it under RFB 2.0 mod, and everytime I get close to a large land mass, or like tonight, a large task-force, it either throws my puter in a loop, or crashes out right. Possibly be my graphics card?

Can I run the RFB Montana class without RFB engaged?

None of my mods are compatible with any super mods such as RFB, TMO, FOTRS, Battle for the Baltics and We dive at dawn etc.

[Mauser KAR98K]

Actually, there is a Montana Class that is suited for RFB. Check the download section. Adds better range and speed control of the ship.

Just wish it didn't take so many 16in shells to sink a small cargo ship.

[Karle94]

im sorry to say but you make a mistake with the south dakota ( or maybe im just very blind or its the camera angle which fail me ) but the south dakota only have 4 dual 5" turret on each side not 5, and they are set that way '. .' ( the ' is a turret over the . which is another turret 1 stage lower ) and if im not mistaken you set 5 turret this way '. '.-

so let me quote from wikipedia as in the secondary armement ( the dual 5" im talking about ) :
Because South Dakota was built as a fleet flagship, the extra command and control space needed for these duties necessitated that the secondary battery be limited to sixteen 5-in (127 mm) 38 caliber Mark 12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%22/38_caliber_gun) guns in eight Mark 28 Mod 0 dual mounts, four on either side of the superstructure.

Its was the USS massachusetts, USS Alabama and USS indiana which had 5 turret, but those where late version, the USS South Dakota was basicly made for Flagship operation so needed space for their control that why only 4 turret :) but correct me if im wrong :) no personnal harm intend :P

or if you want to keep 5 turret youll have to compact them a bit :P
here 1 linik to picture of the USS massachusetts secondary armement :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/5_inch_turrets_aboard_USS_Massachusetts_%28BB-59%29.jpg
and one of the indiana:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/USS_Indiana_%28BB-58%29.jpg

but if you cant make them more compact its nto a big deal, i dotn want too look like a nerd knowing everything, and i dont know how to mod, its was onyl some fact i was saying there :)

Nothing wrong to look like a nerd. Also you are correct about the secondary guns. That is why I made some big changes to the South Dakota. I have posted a few pics to present the changes I have made. Now she`s as compact as I could possibly make her without loosing any resemblance to the real thing.

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-08-09_190618_843.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-08-09_190631_187.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/5_inch_turrets_aboard_USS_Massachusetts_%28BB-59%29.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-08-09_190625_890.jpg

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/misc/ships/tmcmassd.jpg

http://www.hnsa.org/ships/img/bbma2.jpg

The original Massachusetts compared to mine
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-08-09_190705_593.jpg
As always feedback is wanted for any improvement.

[yamatoforever]

:up: As usual great work! Will convert them also sometime to SH3 - of course only with your permission!

[Karle94]

:up: As usual great work! Will convert them also sometime to SH3 - of course only with your permission!

You have my permission.

[Marka Ragnos]

The Montana is awesome just awesome.

Nice work on the texture and it's more powerfull then the iowa. :yeah:


10/10

[daones]

Im having the same problem as a previous poster, the ship doesnt show up anywhere in the play modes, looked under career, quick mission and war patrol.. i only have this mod installed, im running stock sh 1.5 with no mods.

[Karle94]

Im having the same problem as a previous poster, the ship doesnt show up anywhere in the play modes, looked under career, quick mission and war patrol.. i only have this mod installed, im running stock sh 1.5 with no mods.

Check if there`s a folder called Montana. If the folder Montana or has a folder called Data then there should be no reason for it to not work. See if there`s a data folder in the map you put in the mods folder. Maybe you put the Montana_V1.0 in the folder if so only put the Montana in the mods folder. If none of these work then we would have to turn to outside help.

[Karle94]

Okay here`s the new version of the South Dakota. Check the last posts for images and the Read Me for details.

http://www.filefront.com/17268153/South_Dakota_V1.1.rar

[I'm goin' down]

activated via JGSME and started a new campaign. I did not see the USS Montana as a boat i could choose. What did I do wrong?

[Schwieger]

Isn't the South Dakota the one that explodes violently after taking not that much damage :hmmm:

[Karle94]

Isn't the South Dakota the one that explodes violently after taking not that much damage :hmmm:

Tried her at the battle of samar against three kongos and the yamato. Sank two of the kongos and the yamato before the last kongo and cruisers got me.

[comotoasty]

Karle,

First I would like to thank you for this mod. I have been having so much fun blasting away at the convoys and escorts. I have a few questions regarding the mod.

-Is there anyway to know how much damage you have sustained?
-is there anyway to reduce the amount of jap airplanes? The career mod is almost unplayable because the planes don't stop coming. I run out of AA ammo before I can get to patrol area.

Thanks for your hard work and assistance.

[Karle94]

Karle,

First I would like to thank you for this mod. I have been having so much fun blasting away at the convoys and escorts. I have a few questions regarding the mod.

-Is there anyway to know how much damage you have sustained?
-is there anyway to reduce the amount of jap airplanes? The career mod is almost unplayable because the planes don't stop coming. I run out of AA ammo before I can get to patrol area.

Thanks for your hard work and assistance.

Press F10, there you should see the ship and all the systems. there is also a bar showing how much damage the ship has taken. Last time I engaged a jap BB I got hit maybe 4-5 times. The damage was 32%.

As for mods that reduces air traffic. I do not know many mods that do that, most have probably been deleted. I know that you have to change a few things in the Sim.cfg in the cfg folder.

[comotoasty]

Press F10, there you should see the ship and all the systems. there is also a bar showing how much damage the ship has taken. Last time I engaged a jap BB I got hit maybe 4-5 times. The damage was 32%.

As for mods that reduces air traffic. I do not know many mods that do that, most have probably been deleted. I know that you have to change a few things in the Sim.cfg in the cfg folder.


Thanks, I guess there is something wrong with my damage indicators. I can see that my ship takes damage (on fire), but there is no damage indicated on F10 screen.

I'm going to try to approach the patrol area from a different direction to try and avoid jap air patrols. If that doesn't work they I will just have to play without completing the mission. CO may not appreciate that!

Again thanks for your hard work on all these mods. I'm really liking the surface warfare!

[comotoasty]

I still don't take on any damage. I don't have any other mods running and I have version 1.4. Am I missing anything?

[Karle94]

I still don't take on any damage. I don't have any other mods running and I have version 1.4. Am I missing anything?

When using stock 1.4 or 1.5 the ship is kinda super ship. Try with OM. That works for me. For some reason when using OM the ship takes more damage than with stock.

[Karle94]

New versions out for both the Montana and the South Dakota. Download links in the first post.

[Marka Ragnos]

New versions out for both the Montana and the South Dakota. Download links in the first post.

Thanks Karle, is it possible to add the paint scheme of the previous version of the montana?

[Karle94]

Thanks Karle, is it possible to add the paint scheme of the previous version of the montana?

You mean the camo paint? Will add a texture pack when I have time.

[Marka Ragnos]

You mean the camo paint? Will add a texture pack when I have time.

No need used the paint from the previous version works like a charm :)


And Karle i have a small bug to report and a fix for it:

When you start a new career i always like to start inside the harbor
the montana starts on the peer not next to it.

The fix:

Open flotilllas.upc

Find


[Flotilla 1.Base 1]
ID= PearlHarbor
NameDisplayable= Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
ExternalBaseName=Pearl Harbor
AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL
DepartureDescription1= -18954728, 2562755, 45.918098 ; Enum of available points, choose one randomly each time a patrol is started
DepartureDescription2= -18954728, 2562755, 46.252201
DepartureDescriptionOut1= -18957616, 2548824, 242.189346 ; Enum of starting points for when the player selects the option to start outside the base


what you see above is the correct settings for a career start i coloured what needs to be changed

The result:


http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1595/sh4img20101101152803936.th.png (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/sh4img20101101152803936.png/)

[USSDorado]

If someone could upload the camo paint scheme for the Montana I would really appreciate it.

[chrysanthos]

for this class my love is north carolina;)

[Karle94]

New version of the Montana is out. New 3D model and some extra stuff. Read the read me for additional info. Sorry I don`t have any pictures of her as of now. Download link on page 1.

[Arma2_SH4_Fan]

Nice pics! Am curious sometimes....

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Karle94, Montana is great, I can't decide which is my favorite ship mod now. Been playing the Montana in career since you released the new version, and she seems flawless, I've had no issues. Once again great job!

Thanks
Captain Rockwell Torry:salute:

[Chrisi078]

you make the Nevada or Texas?

[Karle94]

you make the Nevada or Texas?

Not playable. I have made an AI rebuilt Nevada. As for the Texas, there are none for SHIV. The New York and Texas are included in SHV

[Marka Ragnos]

An attempt at painting my own Montana :)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150634_774.jpg


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150621_534.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150613_494.jpg

[Karle94]

An attempt at painting my own Montana :)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150634_774.jpg


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150621_534.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150613_494.jpg

Nice. Escorting Arctic convoys are we?

[Marka Ragnos]

no :)

Statiioned at pearl harbor just changed the start position near the exit :)

Easier to depart as don't like to start outside the harbor :p

[Soviet Creeper]

Its amazing how stealthy the montana seems to be in one of those storms that dont allow you to see anything. I snuck up on a task force and sunk all of the ships without really being "found" :P

[Karle94]

An attempt at painting my own Montana :)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150634_774.jpg


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150621_534.jpg

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/SH4Img2011-08-12_150613_494.jpg

I would reccomend that you use my new Montana. I made a new 3D model and overall improved the ship.

[Marka Ragnos]

I have used the new model and found a few bugs which are not on the first version.

The bridge is somewhere inside the ship and front cannons are too close to each other.

Also i have changed some values and that would mean i have to start all over again :p

Still you provide great mods karle and i hope you continue.
I hope one day i get the change to play with the iowa refit the one with the helicoper deck.

[Karle94]

I have used the new model and found a few bugs which are not on the first version.

The bridge is somewhere inside the ship and front cannons are too close to each other.

Also i have changed some values and that would mean i have to start all over again :p

Still you provide great mods karle and i hope you continue.
I hope one day i get the change to play with the iowa refit the one with the helicoper deck.

The new 3D model is in version 1.2 and it doesn`t look like the model you have in the pictures.

The bridge thingy must have been something I missed.

Iowa 1980`s refit will be included in my Cold War-Modern Warfare mod.

[Marka Ragnos]

I decided to take a second look at the new model and the crew compartments is in fact alot better.

Time to use the new model :p

[Marka Ragnos]

Hi Karle started playing around with the 1.2 version and i have changed a few minor settings.

I first lowered the ship (gc_height is now set at 2)
I also increased the drag so the ship is not moving around so much it should be heavy (up/down drag set to 1,0)

There is one thing that puzzles me the aft cannon is not centered like the others. Any idea which file needs to be edited?

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/aft.jpg

[Karle94]

Hi Karle started playing around with the 1.2 version and i have changed a few minor settings.

I first lowered the ship (gc_height is now set at 2)
I also increased the drag so the ship is not moving around so much it should be heavy (up/down drag set to 1,0)

There is one thing that puzzles me the aft cannon is not centered like the others. Any idea which file needs to be edited?

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/warlordcf/Silent%20Hunter/aft.jpg

USA_Montana.sim. Open the last obj_turret, open the traverse node and edit min and max traverse. It didn`t work beacuse I didn`t know, and still don`t know witch number to put in those two sections.

[Marka Ragnos]

thanks Karle i fixed it

I changed the 150 value to 360 and now it's correct

[Karle94]

thanks Karle i fixed it

I changed the 150 value to 360 and now it's correct

Nw the turret will fire at any ships within 360 degrees, meaning the aftermost turret shoot through the ship.

[JapLance]

You could copy the values from number 3 turret, but min=50 max=310 I think should be OK. They're degrees.

[Karle94]

You could copy the values from number 3 turret, but min=50 max=310 I think should be OK. They're degrees.

Thanks. It`s impossible tp find the turret you want among all those guns. I really need those numbers. I will apply them to the Montana and Vanguard.

[Karle94]

I`ve been working on a 1.3 version of the SoDak. Did some minor 3D adjustments and added an extra dusin AA guns. I tested her in the Battle
of Midway. Here`s some pics:

I took some damage. It ain`t no big thing.
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-10-0311-43-25-08.jpg

But then, it grew. Still ain`t no big thing, right? Wrong!
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-10-0315-19-40-24.jpg

She looks fine on the inside doesn`t she?

Look on the outside!
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-10-0315-20-54-84.jpg
The most creepiest thing I`ve ever seen.

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-10-0315-02-35-11.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-10-0314-52-15-42.jpg

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Guess now is a perfect time to say: "Boy, what I wouldn`t would give to sail on the Montana!"

[comotoasty]

Karle, you should be court martialed for allowing the USS Alabama to be damaged to such an extent.

As usual, great work!!:rock:

[Karle94]

Karle, you should be court martialed for allowing the USS Alabama to be damaged to such an extent.

As usual, great work!!:rock:

Guilty as charged. how can they court martial me if I`m dead? One battleship for three battleships, three carriers, five dstroyers. I`d say that`s a good ratio, it could even clear my name.