View Full Version : [REQ] Need feedback on wamphyri plane attack mod version 1.0
wamphyri
04-06-10, 12:30 AM
Topic sums it up. I've been doing more testing etc etc and have been able to reproduce that with version 1.0 planes that should attack aren't. Here's how to know what to look for. Near a small British airbase (almost all the ones around britain are these) you should get an avro anson with a speed of around 130kn and also a hurricane with a speed of around 230kn. The hurricane will be in groups of 2 and the anson by itself.
The anson shouldn't and won't fire on you. The hurricane should alter course and shoot at you. But i'm not seeing this. The only way to know the difference between the 2 is to check the speed of the plane or to go to external view and go and look up close.
I just need to know if others are getting the same results as me.
Sgtmonkeynads
04-06-10, 12:37 AM
I've been running your mod since day one and still have not been attacked.
I thought maybe I just wasn't being jumped by the right planes.
I tried changeing the settings to be like the mod I have for ship's AI, but that didn't work.
I will start keeping a log of which planes I see, and fly over me from now on. Once I see a pattern I'll let you know.
Guess I need to get out my set of Plane Identification cards !
:salute:
wamphyri
04-06-10, 01:05 AM
I've been running your mod since day one and still have not been attacked.
I thought maybe I just wasn't being jumped by the right planes.
I tried changeing the settings to be like the mod I have for ship's AI, but that didn't work.
I will start keeping a log of which planes I see, and fly over me from now on. Once I see a pattern I'll let you know.
Guess I need to get out my set of Plane Identification cards !
:salute:
Interesting .. what version did you start with? Did you install my mod during a campaign? I just need as much info so I can figure out what to test and fix. Thx sgtmonkey
kylania
04-06-10, 01:10 AM
I installed it during a campaign, but while in port. I've so far seen 5 planes fly over, hurricanes three times and biplanes twice. None attacked me or had external weapons.
Also they were all single flights, not two plane flights I'd always gotten before. This is during the Happy Times campaign, and all the contacts were in late evening into night just NW of Brest.
I'll take better logs from now. :)
Sgtmonkeynads
04-06-10, 01:17 AM
I used the very first one and the lattest. I installed both in port. The second at the begining of a career.
There is only one release, right ? All I have is 1.0
wamphyri
04-06-10, 01:40 AM
I used the very first one and the lattest. I installed both in port. The second at the begining of a career.
There is only one release, right ? All I have is 1.0
I started with 0.1 .. I replaced the downloads with each release.
Sgtmonkeynads
04-06-10, 02:02 AM
Alright, I've been up to date then. I will still give a report sometime tommorrow, if the R.A.F. cooperates. Maybe I will just sail around Britain and see what happens and right it down. Either way :up:
Oh on a side note : I am curently in late 1940 and saw a flight of probably ten B-17's comeing in from the west over the ocean at high altitude. Nothing wrong with that except the date.
wamphyri
04-06-10, 02:54 AM
Good info .. I need more variables to figure out what the dev's have done.
Sgtmonkeynads
04-06-10, 02:57 AM
Oh, we know what the devs didn't
So my orders for the day are to sail around britain useing your mod as normal, correct. Will Do.
This may be the first "mission" that will actually accomplish something !
Maybe this is the way we all should start playing from now on, playing to gather intel for moders !
Been away from SH5 for a little, but did instal your mod (mid campaign) and did get straffed by Hurricanes somewhere off Scotland. They did some light damage to the sub which was quickly repaired. Prior to your mod everything flew peacefully overhead!
Regards
I have seen patrol of 2 planes in version 0.5
Haven't time to test 1.0 yet :/
7thSeal
04-06-10, 05:00 PM
I've been using 1.0 since its release and have been attacked on just about every patrol. I find that its often when they're in pairs (hurricane) usually both of them will strafe me. I'm nearly always out of ammo when returning for a refill or ending a mission (AI hits them more often than I do :O:). I've recently started a new campaign and still have the VIIA so I'm not far at all currently.
I've also seen a fair share that will pass on by not bothering to attack... its always random if they'll attack you or not. :)
Edit\ Here's a shot I recently posted in the screenshot thread of me getting hammered.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6180/sh52010040418332672.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/sh52010040418332672.jpg/)
SteelViking
04-06-10, 08:40 PM
Same here with 1.0 Wamphyri. I have ran it for several months in game and have never been attacked by Hurricanes(pair of fast flyers). I have been attacked multiple times by some single planes, but I cannot confirm what they were, sorry......The second I see a plane turn towards me, things get kind of flaky.:arrgh!:
7thSeal
04-06-10, 08:51 PM
Try this area and see if you get buzzed by a pair of hurricanes, they seem to pay me visit whenever I take a shortcut through here. :)
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SteelViking
04-06-10, 09:55 PM
7thSeal, on your advice I patrolled the indicated area for 4 days, and though it is a prime area to see Hurricanes(a lot of them) I was never actually attacked by them. I know I have the mod installed right, for instance I almost never see planes at night with it, even in heavily patrolled areas. So I wonder what the difference is.
7thSeal
04-06-10, 10:08 PM
Were you already in a campaign when installing the mod? I've started a new campaign with the 1.0. That would be the only difference that I can think of that might affect it. If you're on a new campaign after installing it... I don't what else might cause a difference. :hmmm:
SteelViking
04-06-10, 10:17 PM
Aha! I started a new patrol, but not a new campaign. I bet that is why it is not working for me. I will try a new campaign and see for sure.
Edit: Nope, that's a negatory. Even starting a new campaign did not make it work. Once again, I saw tons of Hurricanes in that area, but no attacks.
Taurolas
04-07-10, 06:13 AM
I was already into a campaign & docked when i ran the v1.0 plane mod, since then i've had plenty of plane sightings of various types in various locations around the british isles but none have attacked me and we're talking over 30 sigthings... with 0.5 i was getting hammered nearly everytime a plane spotted me... talk about ****tin in my pants. Dont know what you've changed Wamphyri but it no longer seems to be working for me.
will start a new campaign later with 0.5 and then 1.0 installed and see what happens, will let you know.
keep up the good work.
stalintc
04-07-10, 01:33 PM
I concur, v1.0 has yielded no plane attacks for me so far.
Plenty of Anson bombers and Hurricane formations, but no attack.
I have shot at some of the ones that came close... oddly enough after hitting one of the Anson's and making it smoke from one of the engines, it continued its flight path but was also firing its machine guns along its flight path.
wamphyri
04-07-10, 09:12 PM
Fix Link (http://www.filefront.com/16059239/Wamphyri%27s%20Plane%20Mod%201.0%20fix.zip) Install using jsgme and tell it to overwrite
Give that a try. I think I have it figured out but I can't figure out why it was broken from such a simple change. It was because I had changed the planes that are spawned by the airbase. I'll be looking into it more because I want there to be some variety to the planes that you see instead of just hurricanes through out most of the war.
You probably won't see a change until you start a new patrol, I don't think you'll have to start a new campaign.
kylania
04-07-10, 10:13 PM
Fix Link (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation) Install using jsgme and tell it to overwrite
How is Yahtze's wonderful game reviews gonna help fix this? (wrong link pasted? :O: hehe Guess it could have been worse (http://www.google.com/search?q=martha+stewart+sunbathing) maybe...)
wamphyri
04-07-10, 10:26 PM
How is Yahtze's wonderful game reviews gonna help fix this? (wrong link pasted? :O: hehe Guess it could have been worse (http://www.google.com/search?q=martha+stewart+sunbathing) maybe...)
whoops .. usually I double check the links but didn't this time :rotfl2::har:
Its fixed
stalintc
04-08-10, 06:53 AM
Fix Link (http://www.filefront.com/16059239/Wamphyri%27s%20Plane%20Mod%201.0%20fix.zip) Install using jsgme and tell it to overwrite
Give that a try. I think I have it figured out but I can't figure out why it was broken from such a simple change. It was because I had changed the planes that are spawned by the airbase. I'll be looking into it more because I want there to be some variety to the planes that you see instead of just hurricanes through out most of the war.
You probably won't see a change until you start a new patrol, I don't think you'll have to start a new campaign.
Thats brilliant mate,
I will give it a try when i'm next in SHV.
Probably not starting a new patrol for a few days, (I stay in the lower echelons of time compression)
Will feedback with details if others have not once I do. Or even of course if it does work during the current patrol :DL
Cheers
Taurolas
04-08-10, 01:13 PM
Feedback on the Fix you posted W...
Deffinately works now :up: man i got my ass shot :D
Just installed at the end of my mods while in a current campaign, wasnt docked either... 1st planes that saw me filled the air with 20mm and had me yelling like a mad bugger to crash dive... yep the thrills n spills are back nice work, I :salute: u sir!
keep up the good work
wamphyri
04-08-10, 03:11 PM
Good Good. I still can't fathom why it was behaving the way it was.. I crossed all my T's and dotted all my i's but change one of the planes that appear from an airbase and suddenly sh5 isn't happy. Plus it's not bloody consistent either. Sometimes they would attack with the change.. sometimes they wouldn't. That's why I thought 1.0 was fine.
I"m only going to be making small changes here and there until the next patch. no sense going all out just to have to fix it all again.
7thSeal
04-08-10, 04:12 PM
Plus it's not bloody consistent either. Sometimes they would attack with the change.. sometimes they wouldn't. That's why I thought 1.0 was fine.
I"m only going to be making small changes here and there until the next patch. no sense going all out just to have to fix it all again.
Good call, they must hate me because I was getting zeroed in on with the 1.0 and now they hate me even more... lol you've nailed it with the latest version and I'm staying underneath more often now... :up:
wamphyri
04-08-10, 04:49 PM
Did anyone notice my little surprise that i added? It's nothing major but it'll make you want to stay under :arrgh!:
7thSeal
04-08-10, 04:58 PM
Did anyone notice my little surprise that i added? It's nothing major but it'll make you want to stay under :arrgh!:
I did... :DL
wamphyri
04-08-10, 05:02 PM
I did... :DL
That was my whole idea behind adding the other planes .. I intended on going the GWX route with the air war but sh5 didn't want to cooperate. Hopefully by the last patch it'll be like sh3.
Did anyone notice my little surprise that i added? It's nothing major but it'll make you want to stay under :arrgh!:
Now I'm curious. Hmm?:hmmm:
Taurolas
04-09-10, 01:32 AM
The only surprise i've had so far was when one of the 2 hurricanes above me dropped either a bomb or depth charge (dont really care what it was but it rattled my fillings!) that and the fact they also still pour 20mm into the sea around my position even when i've been dived to 30m or so 10 mins after they first spotted me. maybe i'm still in visual range?
i'll recheck the depth but i'm sure i was well below PD when i heard the rounds comming in!
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