SH5 patch #2

[kylania]

There are campaign file changes in the patch from what the notes read like, meaning you'll have to start a new campaign since existing save games will be broken.

[SabreHawk]

Well alrighty then Admiral..........congrats on the promotion BTW!:O:

Just as well, im not so sure I really like the capatin's name I wound up with anyway. Think I'll make one up this time.:cool:
Will be fun to start over again, especially if they fix and do what I think they are.
I'll make a prediction that we'll be surprised, and happy seamen.:salute:

[Reaves]

And now some SH history on this topic

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and now for something completely different...

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[u-boatluc]

Is the patch out

[Reaves]

It's due today but being Australian my today is Europes tomorrow.

[u-boatluc]

ok thanks

[ingsoc84]

If its out, why didnt my US version autopatch?

[kylania]

If its out, why didnt my US version autopatch?

Because it's not out. :DL

[ingsoc84]

Crap, I misread the post "is it out" for "it is out"....freudian slip for sure:damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

[doomlordis]

If this patch doesnt arrive today, i am stopping playing and modding, whats the point if UBI (who make the money) cant stick to deadlines.
When i miss a deadline at work i get roasted , not sexually but told off..

[Sonarman]

whats the point if UBI (who make the money) cant stick to deadlines.

It's Ubi's "sticking to deadlines" that got us into this mess in the first place.

[Cap.Palla]

11.20am in italy...still no patch :damn::damn:

[Pumpkin]

Just run up my game again. Nothing so far...

[ingsoc84]

Darn....
:down:

[Sgtmonkeynads]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering. Just asking....

If this patch ends up breaking important mods, or just ends up being a joke, causeing more bugs or screwing with peoples saves, will there be any way to NOT have it update.
I'm worried they may not have had time to fully check everything as well as they did the original release of the game.

[Ragtag]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering. Just asking....

If this patch ends up breaking important mods, or just ends up being a joke, causeing more bugs or screwing with peoples saves, will there be any way to NOT have it update.
I'm worried they may not have had time to fully check everything as well as they did the original release of the game.

You will be asked of you want to update or not. It does NOT update automatically. The patcher downloads and asks.

[Cap.Palla]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering. Just asking....

If this patch ends up breaking important mods, or just ends up being a joke, causeing more bugs or screwing with peoples saves, will there be any way to NOT have it update.
I'm worried they may not have had time to fully check everything as well as they did the original release of the game.

i think that you can choose to install or not the 1.2...is not automatically installed. But i'm not sure,just read it somewhere in the forum...

[jwilliams]

You will be asked of you want to update or not. It does NOT update automatically. The patcher downloads and asks.


Yes but once you've updated to 1.2 and find it breaks mods etc. you CAN'T roll back to 1.15. You will be stuck with v1.2 :nope:

And if you uninstall and reinstall will it let you choose to download only patch 1.15 or will it just auto download 1.2 ?? im guessing it'll just download 1.2.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

Good, cause I don't remember it asking me the last time.
And the roll back thing is why I asked. I will not do it untill I read what you guys are saying about it.
If it sucks and causes any problems more than what were already included stock, then I'm done


Thanks, and by the way I'm not as negative about it as I sound. I just hope they actually fixed everything they mentioned and didn't just blow more smoke like they did in the pre release interviews.

[Pumpkin]

I'm worried they may not have had time to fully check everything as well as they did the original release of the game.
:D
What exactly did they fully check last time? :hmmm:

[Sgtmonkeynads]

One thing works fine .

[jwilliams]

DRM works fine Sir, everything else is FUBARED.

DRM works fine ???

was the game not cracked ????

DRM = Failed

:haha:

[Pumpkin]

DRM works fine Sir, everything else is FUBARED.

Sadly true. Here's hoping for something better this time.... :yep:

[captainprid]

I know the game asks you if you want to update but when this happens, can you then remove mods straight away or can you allow the update to install then remove the mods with JSGME after installation???


Basically what i'm asking is should I remove all my mods prior to turning the game on or does it not matter??

[Cap.Palla]

i uninstalled all mods and waiting for the patch release...Oh...and i finished my last patrol. :)

[Pumpkin]

It's a good question. I've removed my mods just to be on the safe side. Easy enough to install them afterwards if I need to.

Maybe there will be no need for any mods as the game will now be perfect! :DL

[Cap.Palla]

Hi guys...i'm just surfing the net and i find a link that allow to download the 1.1.5 patch.
So i guess that in case of problem we can rool back to 1.1.5... or am i wrong?

http://ubisoft-it.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_it.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13302&p_created=1267616391

[Sonarman]

Hi guys...i'm just surfing the net and i find a link that allow to download the 1.1.5 patch.
So i guess that in case of problem we can rool back to 1.1.5... or am i wrong?


You probably could do that but you would need to reinstall the game as the new patch will doubtless affect many files that the old patch did not.

[captainprid]

Probably you are right but why would you want to?? I think most of the modders will alter their mods when they know what files have been changed and hey....1.2 has to be an improvement over 1.15

[StinkiePoep]

DRM works fine ???

was the game not cracked ????

DRM = Failed

:haha:

The game has been cracked yes, but the cracked version has no missions, u cant d the campaign so i dont think its fun to play a cracked game.

[Ragtag]

The game has been cracked yes, but the cracked version has no missions, u cant d the campaign so i dont think its fun to play a cracked game.

That's been fixed afaik.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Not something that needs to be discussed here lads.

[kylania]

It's official: It's not coming out any time soon:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/1481024458%3Fr%3D5631097458&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjf6oIftQJM-DqGCC11ybhQHIM-RQ#5631097458

I'm hoping the "no longer being released" is a mistranslation of "not today"...

[ddrgn]

It's official: It's not coming out any time soon:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/1481024458%3Fr%3D5631097458&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjf6oIftQJM-DqGCC11ybhQHIM-RQ#5631097458

I'm hoping the "no longer being released" is a mistranslation of "not today"...

Garbage........

[CutMe]

I have seen in some post saying another week.....
why they are making us BEGGING!!!!!!!
damn
i hate to beg UBI

[M4XDmG]

Is this real? Can't find words how fustrated I feel now... I really like this game, even with it's flaws, but this patch bulls&#t is something I just don't understand. And this is the first time ever I've been actually waiting for a patch for any game. Feel so disappointed now... :down:

[John Channing]

Obviously they have found some issues with the fixes that make it inelligible for release. Do you really think they get up every morning thinking of ways to upset you? D

Both Subsim.com and the Ubi forums are already full of clever posters talking about how the new patch will probably be full of new bugs. So when they take some extra time to try to make sure this doesn't happen what is the reaction? People start complaining that they can't get a patch that clearly wasn't ready for release.

You can't have it both ways people. Either you can roast Ubisoft for rushing the game out in an incomplete fashion, or you can roast them for not rushing out a patch that would be in the same condition. Which is it?

Think it over and get back to me.

JCC

[captainprid]

Obviously they have found some issues with the fixes that make it inelligible for release. Do you really think they get up every morning thinking of ways to upset you? D

Both Subsim.com and the Ubi forums are already full of clever posters talking about how the new patch will probably be full of new bugs. So when they take some extra time to try to make sure this doesn't happen what is the reaction? People start complaining that they can't get a patch that clearly wasn't ready for release.

You can't have it both ways people. Either you can roast Ubisoft for rushing the game out in an incomplete fashion, or you can roast them for not rushing out a patch that would be in the same condition. Which is it?

Think it over and get back to me.

JCC


That is a fair point but when does patience run out and anger take it's place? I really am annoyed although I acknowledge, anger is going to get me nowhere. Quite frankly, the game should have come out complete, it shouldn't have been sold as a complete game when in reality we were charged for beta testing it.
I also understand that sometimes things can get missed so a patch is required but if it is promised on a certain time then it should be delivered. I'm a patient kind of guy so I can understand the fact that maybe something came up at the last minute last time but for it to happen again is either one of the following:
Incompetence
contempt for the customer
or both

In no other business on Earth would this kind of service be acceptable, it is as simple as that

[kylania]

Do you really think they get up every morning thinking of ways to upset you? D

Given the amount and quality of support for the US players with regards to their forums, website updates, fixes to the game and timely communication, yes. Yes I do think they get up every morning thinking of ways to upset me. :DL

[M4XDmG]

Oh well, I'm off to track down some convoys. At least this game is in playable state. I just wish the patch will be out someday...

[John Channing]

That is a fair point but when does patience run out and anger take it's place? I really am annoyed although I acknowledge, anger is going to get me nowhere. Quite frankly, the game should have come out complete, it shouldn't have been sold as a complete game when in reality we were charged for beta testing it.
I also understand that sometimes things can get missed so a patch is required but if it is promised on a certain time then it should be delivered. I'm a patient kind of guy so I can understand the fact that maybe something came up at the last minute last time but for it to happen again is either one of the following:
Incompetence
contempt for the customer
or both

In no other business on Earth would this kind of service be acceptable, it is as simple as that

Are those really the only two possibilites that you can think of?

Really?

JCC

[captainprid]

Are those really the only two possibilites that you can think of?

Really?

JCC


Well basically, yeah. There may be variations of those but they still come down to those two

[Athlonic]

Mmmmh, wait just a minute, so they have decided to make ONE good and polished patch to finish the game as it should have been when released ?

Let me think about it ... this will take months !! :o

Why not release a stable 1.2.5 patch this week along a list of known remaining issues.
So we "casual testers" can actualy help with more feedback for a next 1.3.5 patch rather than staying here without any informations on what's going on.

Personnaly I would be more than happy to help you guys out, I feel so lonely and useless and also I hate waiting in the dark not knowing where I am going?

If that is not possible, please be at least more communicative with us poor lonesome kaleuns.

Anyway keep up the good work.

[Baffman]

No matter about the new release date (one two or three weeks from now). That's the perfect way to loose customers. I don't understand why they released the game in march.
I seriously would have preferred to wait until may and have a better game, instead of being strung along by ubisoft delay after delay.
For the future i really hope that a REAL developer/publisher will make another subsim, we can only take advantage from a little competition.

[Kepler]

No matter about the new release date (one two or three weeks from now). That's the perfect way to loose customers. I don't understand why they released the game in march.
I seriously would have preferred to wait until may and have a better game, instead of being strung along by ubisoft delay after delay.
For the future i really hope that a REAL developer/publisher will make another subsim, we can only take advantage from a little competition.

Gotta agree, I'm pretty sure we'd all run screaming from UBI if we had a better alternative - better as in "hey guys, let's sell you something that looks and acts a bit more like a finished product". Would UBI release a game as unfinished as SH5 if they had any competition? I doubt it. So is customer care at the top of their priority list? Hardly.

As is, UBI's product is all we have, so they can pretty much do what they like, and we're left with this state of affairs, where people are either raging, losing interest, or conjuring up soothing excuses for what is basically an unacceptable state of affairs.

[nemo12]

It's official: It's not coming out any time soon:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/1481024458%3Fr%3D5631097458&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjf6oIftQJM-DqGCC11ybhQHIM-RQ#5631097458

I'm hoping the "no longer being released" is a mistranslation of "not today"...

the google-translation is not correct. In the german version it says the that the patch is no longer released today. In german it says "Leider muß ich euch mitteilen, dass der Patch heute nicht mehr released werden wird. " The keyword missing in the google-translation is "heute", meaning "today".

[Athlonic]

Personnaly, I am fed up with all of this !

Going back to Silent Hunter 3 ... err wait ... no it's too ugly

Going to play Assassin Creed 2 which is a blast and bug free, just have to ask Leonardo DaVinci to build me an Uboat.
Should do the trick.

See ja on next week guys ! :D

[Herodotus]

It's official: It's not coming out any time soon:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/1481024458%3Fr%3D5631097458&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjf6oIftQJM-DqGCC11ybhQHIM-RQ#5631097458

I'm hoping the "no longer being released" is a mistranslation of "not today"...
From what I understand, the Patch release date is now cancelled as the patch is not in a workable state. Ubisoft will henceforth let us know, I hope, when a workable Patch 1.2 will be available for release.
Whatever the case, it's not a very good state of affairs.:nope:

[ingsoc84]

Should have known, Santa and the Easter Bunny are also fiction, just as is the release of this patch anytime soon. I'll check back in six months, until then, a sunny summer awaits, and I'm not waiting around here for some guys in Romania to figure out what they can't figure out. I now 100 percent REFUSE to buy any game which I can not beforehand download and play a WORKABLE demo to see how it will run..otherwise, you might as well throw your cash to the wind, just as here.

[Lopo]

Should have known, Santa and the Easter Bunny are also fiction, just as is the release of this patch anytime soon. I'll check back in six months, until then, a sunny summer awaits, and I'm not waiting around here for some guys in Romania to figure out what they can't figure out. I now 100 percent REFUSE to buy any game which I can not beforehand download and play a WORKABLE demo to see how it will run..otherwise, you might as well throw your cash to the wind, just as here.

Totally agreed

[ggregoro]

That is a fair point but when does patience run out and anger take it's place? I really am annoyed although I acknowledge, anger is going to get me nowhere. Quite frankly, the game should have come out complete, it shouldn't have been sold as a complete game when in reality we were charged for beta testing it.
I also understand that sometimes things can get missed so a patch is required but if it is promised on a certain time then it should be delivered. I'm a patient kind of guy so I can understand the fact that maybe something came up at the last minute last time but for it to happen again is either one of the following:
Incompetence
contempt for the customer
or both

In no other business on Earth would this kind of service be acceptable, it is as simple as that

It is fairly evident that this company, or at least this business unit of the company, does not know how to run a software development project. Whatever happened to under promise over deliver? It's a good bet that they don't have the "A" team working on this patch and the project manager is pretty much clueless as to their capabilities.

The guiding principles of the Montgomery Scott School of Project Management:
1. When the client asks for a new project, even when the specs are clear, deny the possibility of the task being able to be accomplished.
2. If pressed, multiply by 4 (or 8) the amount of time you think it might take.
3. When it only takes you twice as much time as you originally estimate, you will come out ahead by a factor of two (or four).
Ben Adams
http://mouthyamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/montgomery-scott-school-of-project.html

[John Channing]

It is fairly evident that this company, or at least this business unit of the company, does not know how to run a software development project. Whatever happened to under promise over deliver? It's a good bet that they don't have the "A" team working on this patch and the project manager is pretty much clueless as to their capabilities.

The guiding principles of the Montgomery Scott School of Project Management:
1. When the client asks for a new project, even when the specs are clear, deny the possibility of the task being able to be accomplished.
2. If pressed, multiply by 4 (or 8) the amount of time you think it might take.
3. When it only takes you twice as much time as you originally estimate, you will come out ahead by a factor of two (or four).
Ben Adams
http://mouthyamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/montgomery-scott-school-of-project.html

I will see your "Space-Guys in their Jammies" quote and raise you one from the Ubisoft Q3 Financial statement...



Sales for the third quarter of 2009-10 came to €495 million


Clearly they don't have a clue about how to run a software development project.

And this Project Manager is an actual person (as opposed to a character on a bad 60's sci-fi program) and is a friend of mine so you might want to think twice about slandering someone who you have never even met.


JCC

[Reaves]

I will see your "Space-Guys in their Jammies" quote and raise you one from the Ubisoft Q3 Financial statement...




Clearly they don't have a clue about how to run a software development project.

And this Project Manager is an actual person (as opposed to a character on a bad 60's sci-fi program) and is a friend of mine so you might want to think twice about slandering someone who you have never even met.


JCC

Oh keep defending UBISOFT. We wouldn't expect any criticism from a subsim mod.. :down:

[hawk2495]

Oh keep defending UBISOFT. We wouldn't expect any criticism from a subsim mod.. :down:

That is a bit unfair.

[Reaves]

That is a bit unfair.

So is life unfortunately. A good example is paying US$49.95 for a game not worth playing. When it will be worth playing I could purchase it for $14.95.

I can only blame myself though.. Been through this with every SH release.. nothing new here.

[Reece]

@ JCC, Reaves is correct, UBISoft had not right to sell a product, eagerly collecting peoples money, in such a poor state as this!:nope:
SH3 1.4b stock was very playable with a few bugs, SH4 1.5 stock is playable with many bugs, but SH5 so far is hardly worth playing at all. Quality is going down hill fast! and sorry but Dan and the rest of the devs as well as the producers (both UBISoft) are directly responsible for this mess! This product should be recalled!!:x

[Sgtmonkeynads]

It's 4-20 so maybe the guy that was supposed to upload the patch was doing something else.

:woot:

[kylania]

@ JCC, Reaves is correct, UBISoft had not right to sell a product, eagerly collecting peoples money, in such a poor state as this!:nope:
SH3 1.4b stock was very playable with a few bugs, SH4 1.5 stock is playable with many bugs, but SH5 so far is hardly worth playing at all. Quality is going down hill fast! and sorry but Dan and the rest of the devs as well as the producers (both UBISoft) are directly responsible for this mess! This product should be recalled!!:x

... you're trying to compare Silent Hunter III's final patch with out of the box Silent Hunter 5? Really? Perhaps you forgot (http://silenthunteriii.com/uk/updates.php) all the changes that went into making Silent Hunter III playable? SH III was close to this buggy when it came out.

Last Week/Today's missed patch would have gone a long way in making SH5 playable, but to compare a final patch game with an out of the box game (with only one tiny day 1 patch) is just absurd.

[Reece]

... you're trying to compare Silent Hunter III's final patch with out of the box Silent Hunter 5? Really? Perhaps you forgot (http://silenthunteriii.com/uk/updates.php) all the changes that went into making Silent Hunter III playable? SH III was close to this buggy when it came out.

Last Week/Today's missed patch would have gone a long way in making SH5 playable, but to compare a final patch game with an out of the box game (with only one tiny day 1 patch) is just absurd.Not at all, SH3 at v1.1 still had nowhere near the bugs plus you had many U-Boat types and 1945 end (and no OSP/DRM), it was much more playable than this, I remember very well!, SH4 was abandoned with still far too many bugs, and no amount of patching will fix SH5, it may be slightly improved but never fixed.:-?
It doesn't matter which way you look at it, it should not have been released in the state it was/is.:x

[Kepler]

Also, I would suggest that it does not constitute a very good defence to point out the poor initial state of previous SH-releases as an excuse for the poor state of SH5 at release. SH5 was released in an unfinished state, without being marketed as such = basically unacceptable. Then you have the broken string of promises concerning the (perhaps?) upcoming patch, and an unsatisfying level of communication concerning overall plans for fixing the game. Again: Basically unacceptable.

Now I do not wish to sound unreasonable, I understand that I have not bought a space shuttle or an aircraft carrier, but a $50 computer game. Of course there is a limit to the service I can expect for that kind of money, but I do not feel that I am asking too much, really.

If you sell me a game that is far from finished and functioning in comparison to what it promises, you tell me. Anything else is dishonest.

If you happen to sell me a game that contains errors you did not know of and thus could not tell me about at the time of purchase, you tell me if and when you are going to fix said errors. At the very least you can say: "Sorry mate, that's what you get for $50". If you postpone fixes, I want to know why. Guessing why you did not fix errors before release, or what errors you might choose to fix, and when, should not be part of the purchase.

That's it. Honest communication. Doesn't have to cost a lot.

[tonschk]

:down: Silent Hunter 3 :down: ?? , no thank you , I already deleted :down: SH3 , and :rock: I love :yeah: Silent Hunter 5 :woot:

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http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7493/exterio.png (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/exterio.png/)

[Kepler]

Not at all, SH3 at v1.1 still had nowhere near the bugs plus you had many U-Boat types and 1945 end (and no OSP/DRM), it was much more playable than this, I remember very well!, SH4 was abandoned with still far too many bugs, and no amount of patching will fix SH5, it may be slightly improved but never fixed.:-?
It doesn't matter which way you look at it, it should not have been released in the state it was/is.:x

Also, in my personal opinion SH3 and 4 are what they are today thanks to modders. Even with the latest patches, both games have defects that you need mods to work around (and even that does not fix all problems).

[Eldarion]

I agree, Herodotus.
Been waiting for the 20th to the new patch to be released, and now we have to keep waiting! :damn:
I keep playing SH5, but it's a pity really to see british planes buzzing above my head without even noticing my u-boot, and to watch brave british sailors talking to each other, as in a sunday morning at hyde park, when their ship is being blowed up in pieces.
Not to mention my bold gun crew, glued to their cannon even underwater. That's german spirit!! :salute:
Anyway, I'm VERY disappointed, but I hope new patch will arrange everything.
See ya!

Eldarion

[Vreith]

That's it. Honest communication. Doesn't have to cost a lot.

Unless they been sitting on there asses, or got them selves in a position where it's hard to fix the issues they made and don't want to release a patch making it worse... ive had patches before making a game worse...

[ggregoro]

I will see your "Space-Guys in their Jammies" quote and raise you one from the Ubisoft Q3 Financial statement...Sales for the third quarter of 2009-10 came to €495 million

Clearly they don't have a clue about how to run a software development project.

And this Project Manager is an actual person (as opposed to a character on a bad 60's sci-fi program) and is a friend of mine so you might want to think twice about slandering someone who you have never even met.

JCC

So what are you saying here? The fact that the PM is a personal friend of yours qualifies his competence? I do not doubt that Ubisoft makes a lot of sales. However in this instance I have an issue with how they've done it. What was the profit on the sales number? If it will help get the software patched I'll apologize and withdrawn my comment.

[John Channing]

So what are you saying here? The fact that the PM is a personal friend of yours qualifies his competence? I do not doubt that Ubisoft makes a lot of sales. However in this instance I have an issue with how they've done it. What was the profit on the sales number? If it will help get the software patched I'll apologize and withdrawn my comment.

I thought that would be self-evident but OK.. I will explain.

It's basic physics. To every action there is an equal and oposite reaction.

See, this is supposed to be a forum for the mature discussion of submarine simulations. Subsim.com has always benefited from having a close relationship with the developers of submarine simulations (not just Dan and his team). We know some of these people personally and know that they are enthusiasts, are extremely knowledgeable and passionate about their craft, and possess more knowledge about submarines that any of us will ever have.

So when someone who has barely even bothered to participate in this community starts throwing terms like "clueless" around about someone they have never even met, and makes foolish statements about Ubisoft, one of the largest and most profitable game publishers in the world, not knowing "how to run a software development project", and then finishes off with a bad Star Trek analogy... well, you just gotta expect some kind of reaction.

JCC

[SteelViking]

John, thanks for putting some sanity back into threads like this. It takes a patient person to do what you do.:salute:

[Reaves]

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/7505/original/pumpkin_boat.jpg

Ubisoft have let the Silent Hunter series down once again, plain and simple.

It is not good enough to say "it's a genre with a small fanbase so we should be happy they even make the game."

No, we pay good money to beta test. Everyone complaining has every reason to do so. This is not immature, it is people getting frustrated and feeling dudded.

Microprose made Silent Service, which is the grand father of Silent Hunter. If UBISOFT were to not make another, someone else would. It might not be as good but it might be better. Ubisoft didn't make the genre, they didn't make the style. It is the same gameplay I had playing Silent Service, just with the technology of graphics and game engines available today.

I believe SH3 took ideas form Enigma Rising tide with being able to be inside the sub. Previous titles simply had nav maps, stations like periscope and deck.

Ubisoft owe US not the other way around.


-End of Rant. (For today)

[The General]

So when someone who has barely even bothered to participate in this community starts throwing terms like "clueless" around about someone they have never even met, and makes foolish statements about Ubisoft, one of the largest and most profitable game publishers in the world, not knowing "how to run a software development project", and then finishes off with a bad Star Trek analogy... well, you just gotta expect some kind of reaction.
Nice one JC :rock:

I think this delay means The Devs are kicking ass and taking names. I think, with the help of members of this very Community, they're having a bloody good go at fixing as much stuff as they can before Ubi says, 'STOP!'.

[Sub Marauder]

I think the patch was on it's way over but the delivery ship was driven by the captain of the Exxon Valdez and it was struck by a DRM torpedo.

[SeamanStaines]

Almost...the patch is stuck on the ship that ran aground on the barrier reef. DRM is killing the coral.

[captainprid]

Why is this becoming such an aggressive and personal issue. There are two sides to this argument and it is important both sides recognise and respect that. personal insults are simply not justified. I am annoyed the patch didn't come out on time as promised but after I calmed down I could understand there may be reasons we are not fully aware of.

To be quite frank, I am disappointed more with how UBI handled the delay, i.e. Not informing people but after seeing what has happened here since last Friday (and yeah before anyone points it out, I did have a go at them too) I am personally not suprised they didn't say anything on this board because to be honest, any statement no matter how credible would have had some people attacking it

[Ablemaster]

Havent said anything before, wasnt going to. I'm happy to wait as long as it takes, keeping the community informed should of been a high priority of UBI. That part is annoying, ive since deleted SH5 from my drive, was adding a new OS so thought would wait until something solid has happened before reanstaling SH5.
Anyway doing other things now, so can do without SH5 and all its problems, but like most am unhappy at the way UBI has handled things, but not using SH5 has made things better for me as im not bothered now either way what happens, guess like a lot im sick and tired of it all. Sure that SH5 will get better and hope so, but until then im back with Arma2 and SH4. Will keep looking and checking for that patch and really appreciate all the hard work our community has done to make SH5 a playable platform, i love the SH series and always have done, i just want a good playable SH5 so we can just forget about the past and look to the future. Happy sailing everyone.

[karamazovnew]

Since I'm stuck in another town with a 5 year old laptop, I'm not that bothered about the latest patch delay. But I do have a question.

How did we go from "localization problem" to "unworkable state" after one extra week of work? :hmmm:

Now, I think I can safely say that I've been quite impartial lately, neither slamming the devs, nor defending them. The main reason is that they don't read these comments anyway. The second reason is that I can only judge them by the quality of their product, which, at the moment is... well... uhmm... but it might become good after this patch if only they... well... uhmmm... release it. :shifty:

[SabreHawk]

Has anyone even considered that the delay could be something special they are cookng up?(a ward room perhaps?) Or that they simply are making sure it's bug free, and fixes as much as is possible and adds to the content.
Could also be they are revamping the entire UI.
Truth is all that is said here, even my comment is speculation. But I'd rather have positive speculation over negative any day.

Come on folks, you have to look at the world with better eyes than that.
You cant just keep seeing and speaking so negatively, life's too short.

[Nordmann]

Has anyone even considered that the delay could be something special they are cookng up?(a ward room perhaps?) Or that they simply are making sure it's bug free, and fixes as much as is possible and adds to the content.
Could also be they are revamping the entire UI.
Truth is all that is said here, even my comment is speculation. But I'd rather have positive speculation over negative any day.

Come on folks, you have to look at the world with better eyes than that.
You cant just keep seeing and speaking so negatively, life's too short.

The delay is likely caused by something they have screwed up, and thus need to fix before release.

I very much doubt they will be working on more content any time soon.

[Athlonic]

Has anyone even considered that the delay could be something special they are cookng up?(a ward room perhaps?) Or that they simply are making sure it's bug free, and fixes as much as is possible and adds to the content.
Could also be they are revamping the entire UI.
Truth is all that is said here, even my comment is speculation. But I'd rather have positive speculation over negative any day.

Come on folks, you have to look at the world with better eyes than that.
You cant just keep seeing and speaking so negatively, life's too short.

I agree !

Hopefully they added the toilets too !
It's a real pain to have to surface everytimes Bernard need to do his thingy.

Keep the faith ! :03:

[SabreHawk]

Yes I for one am feeling positive about the patch, especially because it's delayed.
The list of fixes is obviously larger than the one we already have seen, and thats a BIG plus. And I cant help but get this feeling that something special to us may well be in it.

But thinking positvely and always being hopeful is how I live, and I believe in what Pancho Barnes used to say.
"When you have a choice, choose happy."

[Sub Marauder]

Maybe they decided to remove DRM at the last minute because the game sales have choked.

[severniae]

my biggest hope is that they've included an AI 'difficulty' setting - Elite escorts are my want!

[OldFrenchy]

I find it amusing to see the rampant speculation as to why the patch is late; however, it shouldn't be a guessing game. Ubi announced that it was to be released on a certain date. If the patch gets delayed for release on that date (and it has) then Ubi should step up and at the least provide a new release date, or more respectfully to the 'investors' of the game, explain why there is a delay.
But to be silent and let the rage grow reveals poor support and a lack of marketing judgement.

[SabreHawk]

Seems to me they dont have to announce it, we've done a pretty good job of that.
And if they did, who thinks that would change the way folks talk?
Thats right, it wouldn't change a thing. People would still bitch, and still ask why.
And the same thing would be true, and even worse had they delayed the release of the entire game period.

People would still be in here whinning "Where's the game, you said March 4th, it's now April what are you ingrates doing?"

So why try to diffuse a bomb that has already gone off?
And besides the negative folks I've seen here and at UBI's forums will find something wrong with anything they say, and dispute and argue anything they say.
So thats why they dont say.

[longam]

Welcome to the internet.

[ERPP8]

:down: Silent Hunter 3 :down: ?? , no thank you , I already deleted :down: SH3 , and :rock: I love :yeah: Silent Hunter 5 :woot:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/74/16si8hhhh.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/16si8hhhh.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7493/exterio.png (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/exterio.png/)
YEAH!!!:rock:

[Reaves]

Seems to me they dont have to announce it, we've done a pretty good job of that. So it is now the paying customers that have to make announcements of delays in patches.

And if they did, who thinks that would change the way folks talk?
Thats right, it wouldn't change a thing. People would still bitch, and still ask why. You know what WOULD have stopped me bitching? A game where planes don't ignore you. A game where destroyers actually try to chase you. A game where I can't go into Scappa Flow at flank speed, spend my torpedo's and leave without issue.


And the same thing would be true, and even worse had they delayed the release of the entire game period. Not true. My complaint and many others who are ligitimately upset (not the usual BOYCOTT UBISOFT crowd) is the fact I paid full price for a game that is not worth playing. As I wait for patched I notice the price dropping. I also notice the reviewers giving the game a pathetic score due to the bugs. This would not have occured if it was released in a better state hence I wouldn't be here typing rubbish replies to posts that make me angry.

People would still be in here whinning "Where's the game, you said March 4th, it's now April what are you ingrates doing?"Yes people would be whinning that UBISOFT charge full price to a game yet obviously don't put full funding into development. Do you not feel you deserve to "GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR?"

So why try to diffuse a bomb that has already gone off?
And besides the negative folks I've seen here and at UBI's forums will find something wrong with anything they say, and dispute and argue anything they say.
So thats why they dont say.So the companies policy is to ignore upset customers? Are you a politician?

It's UBISOFT's responsibility to keep paying customers updated as to when the game will be brought to a standard where it's worth paying for and playing. To say they don't have to announce it because everyone here is doing it... I can't reply to that comment on this forum in the way that it deserves... I guess a company that due to it's lack of health and safety practices caused the death of an employee wouldn't need to comment as the media would do that for them as well. (Extreme comparison but the meaning is the same)

I don't mean any attack on you by the way. Simply expressing my view to the many people like you who remind me of this:

http://www.ruderfinn.co.uk/blogs/dotcom/files/2009/06/enviromental-head-in-the-sand.jpg

[SabreHawk]

I don't mean any attack on you by the way. Simply expressing my view to the many people like you who remind me of this:

http://www.ruderfinn.co.uk/blogs/dotcom/files/2009/06/enviromental-head-in-the-sand.jpg

Well ya could have fooled me, looks like an all out assult actually.
Nobody's ever dissected any post I've ever made, anywhere, on any forum like that. And then added something like the above to the end, wow.:nope:

But to be a good sport, I'll say if you changed that sand to virtual seawater it'd be closer to the truth.:smug:

[Reaves]

Well ya could have fooled me, looks like an all out assult actually.
Nobody's ever dissected any post I've ever made, anywhere, on any forum like that. And then added something like the above to the end, wow.:nope:

But to be a good sport, I'll say if you changed that sand to virtual seawater it'd be closer to the truth.:smug:

Welcome to the internet.

You must expect some kind of reply when throwing around words like "whinners" and "bitching".

I simply decided to put forth my thoughts on each part of your post. If you prefer I called have simply written one word.

FANBOY!!! :yeah:

Please just understand that people are simply fed-up of the gaming industry these days. Ubisoft arn't the only ones to release unfinished/unplayable games and it does get frustrating.

[SabreHawk]

Well no welcome needed, been out here many years, and thats how I know how it wont matter what or how they say it. They'll get flamed anyway.
I know how folks feel, but at the end of the day it's just a game, nothing more. So I just dont understand how folks can get so uptight over it, even if they are in the right.

[Reaves]

Well no welcome needed, been out here many years, and thats how I know how it wont matter what or how they say it. They'll get flamed anyway.
I know how folks feel, but at the end of the day it's just a game, nothing more. So I just dont understand how folks can get so uptight over it, even if they are in the right.

When I was in highschool.. a long time ago... I could purchase maybe 1 or 2 games a month.

It's just a game yes, but it's also something you buy. I spend time at work for my money, I work hard for it. I don't waste it. That is why I complain.

[kylania]

You know what WOULD have stopped me bitching? A game where planes don't ignore you (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164452). A game where destroyers actually try to chase you (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167682). A game where I can't go into Scappa Flow at flank speed, spend my torpedo's and leave without issue.

All of those things are in game now as mods, load them up and enjoy the game. But you'll probably just complain that you shouldn't have to load mods for that. :yawn:

[mobucks]

ahah looka this thread im glad patch stalled i like my mods. better than UBI if you ask me., they should recognize the modders community and just fix what we ask for... like Egosoft among others im sure.

[ReallyDedPoet]

they should recognize the modders community and just fix what we ask for... like Egosoft among others im sure.

This has been done in the past, SH4's water\environment later versions ( UBI's work ), was heavily influenced by leovampire's mod, a former member here :yep:

[Gato76]

All of those things are in game now as mods, load them up and enjoy the game. But you'll probably just complain that you shouldn't have to load mods for that. :yawn:
Remember,not everybody out there knows about subsim,and imho you should use a mod to improve a game not to fix all the bugs

[Reaves]

All of those things are in game now as mods, load them up and enjoy the game. But you'll probably just complain that you shouldn't have to load mods for that. :yawn:

Yeah I shouldn't have to.

Again, I'll pay full price to a game company so they can have community to fix it for free. Do you always allow people to treat you like rubbish or is it just for SH?

[ariel30]

In my opinion, now Ubi should share profits with moderami Forum :DL

[mobucks]

This has been done in the past, SH4's water\environment later versions ( UBI's work ), was heavily influenced by leovampire's mod, a former member here :yep:

yeah but with Egosoft they have a forum where the modders and devs have regular dialogue and work together to fix/improve the games. Even hired the best modders to help with sequels/expansions.

[LIONPRIDE]

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*whispers* - pssst - the sun is out ... go do something.

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[SabreHawk]

Ahhhh now Lionpride is a man, with a plan.:sunny:
I have barely touched SH5 this week myself(been working on my Tiger Moth) and this weekend I'll be out in the sunshine flying R/C.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/SabreHawk1/Cabinetdoors022.jpg

[ironkross]

yeah but with Egosoft they have a forum where the modders and devs have regular dialogue and work together to fix/improve the games. Even hired the best modders to help with sequels/expansions.

I'm back playing X3:TC (modded) until the patch is available. Yeah Egosoft recognized that the modders had reinvented their game.
BTW no DRM to deal with either. :woot:

[Eldarion]

Yeah, it's 24th (+4 days) and still no mod. My crew still stays on the platform underwater and my electric torpedos still leave a trail behind... And those are the minor issues... :shifty:

[ggregoro]

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*whispers* - pssst - the sun is out ... go do something.

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:DL Right on. It's only a game patch. It's not like ubisoft is working on a cure for cancer. In hind sight I should have bought a good bottle of scotch with the $50.

[Placoderm]

I'm back playing X3:TC (modded) until the patch is available. Yeah Egosoft recognized that the modders had reinvented their game.
BTW no DRM to deal with either. :woot:

:DL I was just thinking last night about playing that again. I had to walk away in the middle of my last "campaign" due to the incredibly addictive nature of the game...maybe it is time to go back and build up my fleet again.


I LOVE that Game! (and it's truly dynamic gameplay!)


:salute:

[SabreHawk]

What I keep trying to think about is the fact that the fix list will be much longer than what we have seen. And the fact that it also says in that post at UBI, is more things to be implemented as well, not just existing bugs fixed.
That to me says that some things will be in the game that were not before. Just what those things are is anybody's geuss. But I see and understand why they do not come forth with info on this. It's the sort of thing that only creates more speculation than what already is.
I wish they would of course. But then on the other hand, I do love surprises, and I'll say it again that I feel that we are in for some sweet surprises.

I think that the crew animations will be more robust and correct, and we know that the bridge watch will obviously behave differently, and will have rain gear for bad weather. Yes I know there is a mod for this, but what im hopng is that the rain gear the devs give us will be more in line with "proper" rain gear. Yes, the hats with the BIG rim like we had in SH3.
Actually im expecting a lot of SH3 to be implemented, cause we already know of a great deal of SH3 & 4 is in there but not in use.
I think they put all that in, so it would be there for them to work with in future patches but they just ran out of time to get it all working right for the game's release.
And I think that with these delays, they are simply trying to make damn sure it fixes and implements as many thing as possible, that it's working, and so as to shut as many folks up about it all as possible.

Im sure that they are as sick of hearing it, as we are of saying it.

[kylania]

Apparently localization worked, Russia has 1.2...

http://ipicture.ru/upload/100424/w94P4VzYYQ.jpg
http://ipicture.ru/upload/100424/kbbMW3TDsW.jpg

[Ragtag]

Apparently localization worked, Russia has 1.2...




When did they release it in Russia?

[kylania]

When did they release it in Russia?

No idea, yesterday some guy said he'd seen shots of it on a Russian forum. I said 'pics or it didn't happen', so tonight someone posted the pics. :)

[severniae]

So, has anyone been updated yet - Just wondering as I'm about to play some SH5 and was wondering if I should disable mods now or not.....

[Ragtag]

So, has anyone been updated yet - Just wondering as I'm about to play some SH5 and was wondering if I should disable mods now or not.....

No patch yet. Just tried the updater.

[Athlonic]

Strange, I would have bet the patch will be v1.2.5 and not 1.2.0 ...

Maybe still a joke, maybe not.

Anyway, restarting the game now every minutes till it updates :D

[Der_Kraken]

Keep the faith my friends....­­­­­­­.>>>>>

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[URL="http://subdd.fr/nacy/sh5/Patch%20SH5%20v.1.2.wmv"]http://subdd.fr/nacy/sh5/Patch%20SH5%20v.1.2.wmv (http://ipicture.ru/upload/100424/kbbMW3TDsW.jpg)
:arrgh!:

[Cap.Palla]

Just launched the game and i have a loader update :yawn:
For a moment i belived it....

[Thunder]

Yeah, i just had a loader update, it loaded and updated then dissapeared.
No game launch, no connection issues... nothing.:stare:
(all mods diabled)
Anybody else?

[SabreHawk]

Yeah I got the launcher update last night too, but the game ran just fine for me.

And hey thanks Kylaina for posting that shot, I see the compass you circled and that should be okay I guess but it appears one can only select a new course within the headings you can see on it but not from the entire range of a round compass.
Oh well at least we'll be able to see just what heading we are on any given momment anyway.
Looks like the WO is still hogging the UZO though.:shifty:

[ZeInfidel]

Apparently localization worked, Russia has 1.2..

Most probably its photoshoped fake.Just checked all major russian game sites, not even a hint about 1.2.

[The General]

Most probably its photoshoped fake.Just checked all major russian game sites, not even a hint about 1.2.Have you checked the Ubisoft Forum?

[ariel30]

Poland - no update, no patch.

[Leftydad]

Does the game automatically update witht the patch when you log on?

[Leftydad]

Is version 1.1.5 the most current?

[kylania]

Is version 1.1.5 the most current?

Officially, yup.

[Leftydad]

And when a new patch comes out, it automatically installs when I start the game? (I just want to make certain I don't have to hunt around for new patches.)

[kylania]

And when a new patch comes out, it automatically installs when I start the game? (I just want to make certain I don't have to hunt around for new patches.)

Yeah, it'll ask you want to download the new patch. If you say yes, it'll do so. At that point deactivate ALL mods you have running. Then it'll ask you if you want to install it, and off you go!

[Topo65]

In the offiical forum, they give some details about the patch (1.2 :hmmm:):

-Compass returned. Now, you can turn the sub at any direction you want.
-"Depth under kiel" command returned.
-Ship AI improved. No strange collisions anymore.
-Aviation still passive.

[spadix]

Most probably its photoshoped fake.Just checked all major russian game sites, not even a hint about 1.2.

I've just checked official forum of the company that represents UBI and sell UBI's games (Buka) in Russia, they sad that the game version is 1.2

[ariel30]

I've just checked official forum of the company that represents UBI and sell UBI's games (Buka) in Russia, they sad that the game version is 1.2

I confirm that version 1.2 is already. http://www.buka.ru/cgi-bin/show_more.pl?option=Show_news&id=1828

[Athlonic]

I confirm that version 1.2 is already. http://www.buka.ru/cgi-bin/show_more.pl?option=Show_news&id=1828

Thanks, here is quick translation of the changelog :


Corrections patch 1.2.0 Russian version :

Bug fixes:

- Fixed a bug where CO2 is not maintained properly
- Fixed morale of crew members
- Fixed a bug where after loading the weather changed
- Fixed an issue where crew members could be seen under water
- Fixed bug where ships exploded in ports or in contact with the shore
- Now you can not use the tool in the bunker plotting the course
- Some fixes in the manual authentication, ships
- Manning "The guns" now do not require morale points
- The crew of the burning ships no longer displayed
- Some fixes in the animation and the interaction of crew
- Fixed some performance issues inside the boat
- Fixed bug where character remain highlighted, when he was selected
- Fixed a bug where the moon was closer than it should be
- Fixed a bug where the Sun is below the clouds
- Fixed torpedo hatches
- Fixed a bug where the propeller on the torpedo did not turn
- Fixed the wake for electric torpedo
- Fixed some dials that did not work inside the boat
- Fixed a bug where player could get stuck, caught on the hatch
- Fixed a bug where the magnetic detonators didn't work correctly
- Fixed some problems in the German localization

Changes in gameplay:

- Compass added to the interface
- Added command "return to the course"
- Added command "depth under the keel"

Improved graphics

- Improved environment and the effects of light
- Improved handling of particles on single-core processors
- Fixed the differences in information about cards for online and single player

Campaign

- German ports in North Africa now occupied
- The Challenge "Supplies from South Africa" removed the ship, which looks identical to the goal, but such is not
- Fixed appearance of some convoys zone (previously could appear on the shore)


Also it has been said that the Sonar works correctly now.

[Athlonic]

Thanks for re-posting this Athlonic, this information has been available for some time though. Is there any Intel on how the game is playing with Patch 1.2?


Same things as the changelog announced here appart of :

- Fixed a bug where the magnetic detonators didn't work correctly
- and that the Sonar is fixed

Nothing about AI escort strategies implementation though ...

Well still have to wait. :-?

[The General]

@Athlonic

Thanks mate :salute:

I am keeping an eye on the Ubisoft forum too now :DL

'The Sonar is fixed', he could be a littel more specific? ;)

[Athlonic]

Some feedback from a lucky russian player :


Skonorev at ubisoft forum :

Some remarks after playing 1.2 ver (russian)
As it was mentioned before - compass, depth under keel and Return to course added.
But still there's no possibilities to set the specific amount of rudder.Compass looks great but difficult to use - impossible to change course from 0 to 180 in one click, have to make several turns ( IMHO )
Morale fixed. Information about ship mast,draft,tonnage added to recognition manual.
Performance is really improved, especially inside u-boat. Behavior of the ships is normal (no more collisions),electric torpedoes trail fixed etc...
About gameplay. Looks like they increased the power of the torpedoes and improved flooding system.Can't say something specific about a/c and AI because started new campaing.
My first impression was that the game became more playable.. yeah there're a lot of things to be changed, but still......game is becoming better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
p.s. sorry for my english

[The General]

Thanks for the update. I think the rest of us can expect the Patch tomorrow :up:

[ingsoc84]

I logged on the game and it downloaded (in german) as I have my menu/voice set to german a "download updater" I believe would be the term, but it did not download any patch, however it is something new from last time I logged on a few days ago, so it may be in preparation for the patch, not sure, just a guess, only time will tell.

[Arclight]

You mean the launcher? That has been updated almost weekly since release. :lol:

It was/is in rather poor shape; going through the syncing process while the feature is disabled (patched out 3-4 weeks ago) and possibly overwriting local saves with online ones, destroying progress made in last session. :nope:

[ingsoc84]

Hello, no this was not the typical launcher updater one see's with the double row/bars indicating update progress, this was something new, however, we shall see!:up:

[kylania]

No launcher update here in the States. I did get one on Thursday I think it was? Nothing over the weekend though.

[Arclight]

Could have been Thursday, dunno. Bit aggravating to see the thing updated every week. :doh:
Hello, no this was not the typical launcher updater one see's with the double row/bars indicating update progress, this was something new, however, we shall see!:up:
Normally you see the auto-updater flash by, I think you do mean the launcher. ;)

[Reaves]

Still no update realeased or any statement from Ubisoft.


This is a joke. 14th came and went as did 20th.

[kylania]

Still no update realeased or any statement from Ubisoft. This is a joke. 14th came and went as did 20th.

I had to pester the forum manager on the ubi forums to even update their patch thread saying there wasn't any ETA since GKane, the Community Developer, hasn't said anything since the 12th... (though to be fair, he's really said nothing since the game came out).

[Crécy]

Is the patch out now?

[kylania]

Is the patch out now?

Nope, not really. Russian players have access to a version of the 1.2 patch, but there's been no official world-wide 1.2 Ubisoft patch release

[ingsoc84]

Russian players have access to a lot of things, chief amongst them is pirated games of every sort, so I don't know yes or know if this patch would fall in this category, however the two years I lived there, it was next to impossible to find a REAL version of a western published game. I'm hoping its just been released for testing there, but would seem strange.

[Crécy]

Nope, not really. Russian players have access to a version of the 1.2 patch, but there's been no official world-wide 1.2 Ubisoft patch release

Ok, thanks. I just uninstalled SH5 because I had to manually input some of the mods and the new patch would not work then. I shall wait for the patch and then install it again.

[kylania]

Ok, thanks. I just uninstalled SH5 because I had to manually input some of the mods and the new patch would not work then. I shall wait for the patch and then install it again.

Yikes! Anytime you're using mods, always use JSGME to install them (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1309434&postcount=2). Makes changing mods out a breeze!

[The General]

I picture The Devs getting into work at 9am (Romania time) this morning, making coffee and then strolling over to their computer to hit a giant 'Enter' key that delivers us the Patch. So, I'm expecting it to hit our shores (UK) at 8:20am today! :D

[kylania]

I picture The Devs getting into work at 9am (Romania time) this morning, making coffee and then strolling over to their computer to hit a giant 'Enter' key that delivers us the Patch. So, I'm expecting it to hit our shores (UK) at 8:20am today! :D

There's two problems with that.

1. There's nothing to indicate that the patch is ready and most importantly:

2. Who in their right minds is up at 8 in the morning!?!? :D

[doomlordis]

So General any sign yet , it's 8:30 ? Maybe they are still having there coffee!

[eagle-eye]

I just want to know if we will ever be able to add more subs? Or add some SH4 user made subs?

[The General]

So General any sign yet , it's 8:30 ? Maybe they are still having there coffee!Nothin' yet :cry: Maybe they got fresh pastries in :DL

[The General]

I just want to know if we will ever be able to add more subs? Or add some SH4 user made subs?I've heard that it's a very real possiblilty, after Patch 1.2 :up:

[Zedi]

I'm sure that the patch will not be available today and not even this week. Maybe not even this month. This is Ubi we are talking about here, so don't get too optimistic ...

[ariel30]

When I called the Polish branch of the Ubi told me that I make a referral to lawyers and bring a process to me because I called them racists. Ubi Support is arrogance and ignorance. Fuj...

[Sonarman]

Did you accuse them of being racists simply because the Russian's got the patch first?

[The General]

I called them racists. Ubi Support is arrogant and ignorantBallsy ;)

[Anvart]

Russian players have access to a lot of things, chief amongst them is pirated games of every sort, so I don't know yes or know if this patch would fall in this category, however the two years I lived there, it was next to impossible to find a REAL version of a western published game. I'm hoping its just been released for testing there, but would seem strange.
:rotfl2:
Russian users have the same access to the internet as well as you...
except for some "your" sites closed for the russian users...

P.S.
... and russian users have received localisation of game from Buka much later...
than you have received the original version.
...
The citation from Buka's forum on April, 22nd :
"Привет из Ростова-на-Дону. Купил диск сегодня утром. Jevel.
Для всех интересующихся.

1. Игра действительно пропатчена до версии 1.2. Возвращены функции "компас" и "глубина под килем". Однако ряд функций по прежнему не работает (граммофон так и не вернули), посему ждём дальнейших обновлений.
2. Игровая озвучка представлена в трёх вариантах: русская, английская и немецкая. Эстеты будут довольны.
3. Проблем с U-play пока не зафиксировано."
...
~ Translated:
"Greetings from Rostov-on-Don. Has bought a disk this morning. Jevel.
For all interested.

1. Game really is patched to 1.2 version.
Functions "compass" and "depth under keel" are returned. However a number of functions on the former does not work (gramophone is not returned), therefore we wait for the further updates.
2. The game sounds is presented in three variants: Russian, English and German. Aesthetes will be happy.
3. Problems with U-play... it is not fixed yet."

[The General]

@Anvart,

you have Patch 1.2?

Has SH5 improved much?

[Don_D_Dwain]

Too bad there weren't two patches available when the game was on the shelf at the store....one for each eye.:O:

[Anvart]

@Anvart,

you have Patch 1.2?

Has SH5 improved much?
No.
I can't buy Buka's localisation, yet...

[ariel30]

I called them racists because of DRM, because Poland is a strange country where the most expensive free Internet access.

[kylania]

P.S.
... and russian users have received localisation of game from Buka much later...
than you have received the original version.

The point is, Buka is apparently selling, on disc, a non-released version of the game that has such critical features in it that without it the game is essentially unplayable out of the box.

If patch 1.2 had come out on April 12th as promised, there wouldn't be a problem with this. But we were told there was a localization problem with it which would take a week to fix.

A week passes and we're told the patch still isn't ready.

Another week passes and we find out a localized version is now available retail in Russia, but there's been absolutely NO communication about this vital patch to the rest of the world which is nearing 3 weeks overdue.

[Seeadler]

...but there's been absolutely NO communication about this vital patch to the rest of the world which is nearing 3 weeks overdue.

German Community-Manager Ubi_Marc has spoken to the devs and indicating a likely release in the second week of May
http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/7811038658

[SabreHawk]

I called them racists because of DRM, because Poland is a strange country where the most expensive free Internet access.

Now that made no sense at all mate. "Most expensive free internet"?

Also, I dont see where racisim comes into things.

[Bridger]

German Community-Manager Ubi_Marc has spoken to the devs and indicating a likely release in the second week of May

If this is the case, then how come it is already released in Russia?

[The General]

The devs are indicating a likely release in the second week of May Thanks for the Intel Seeadler :salute:

[Seeadler]

If this is the case, then how come it is already released in Russia?
The Russian customers are now the patch 1.2.0 beta-testers:woot:

[kylania]

German Community-Manager Ubi_Marc has spoken to the devs and indicating a likely release in the second week of May
http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/7811038658

I love being right (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1367534&postcount=413)... :cry:

[Susexx]

Yes, russian version 1.2 :woot:

[John Channing]

Annnnnnnnnd?


JCC

[Baffman]

Yes, russian version 1.2 :woot:
Well, that's really unfair :damn:
I'm tired of watching my limited edition metal box on the shelf :yawn:

[ariel30]

Now that made no sense at all mate. "Most expensive free internet"?

Also, I dont see where racisim comes into things.

Sorry for the mistake was to be paid access to the Internet 2MB / s 60z³

[Reaves]

Second week of May?


:rotfl2:


Oh I'm GLAD they are delaying. It just means more bugs fixed...

:rotfl2:

You suck UBI.

[SwampyUK]

OOPs No it aint forgot I had to reinstall the game earlier today plus with having no internet connection which has only just come back I thought it was the 1.2 update but it aint its the 1.01
Ah well lack of sleep as well

[kylania]

Launcher update more then likely, they announced earlier today that the 1.2 patch wouldn't be read till around the 2nd week in May now.

[Anvart]

The point is, Buka is apparently selling, on disc, a non-released version of the game that has such critical features in it that without it the game is essentially unplayable out of the box.

If patch 1.2 had come out on April 12th as promised, there wouldn't be a problem with this. But we were told there was a localization problem with it which would take a week to fix.

A week passes and we're told the patch still isn't ready.

Another week passes and we find out a localized version is now available retail in Russia, but there's been absolutely NO communication about this vital patch to the rest of the world which is nearing 3 weeks overdue.You want to say... in this case, russian users are RC testers... :rotfl2:lol.
...
Communique from Buka (fragments On April, 15th):
"Компания Бука рапортует об отправке симулятора Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic в печать
...
Бои на просторах океана начнутся с 22 апреля 2010 года.
..."
and
- Исправлены некоторые проблемы немецкой локализации
...
~ Translated:
"The Buka company reports about sending of Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic simulator in the press
...
"Fights on open ocean spaces will begin since April, 22nd, 2010.
..."
and
- Some problems of German localisation are corrected
...
And that's all.
Other communique was not...

[ingsoc84]

Second week of May?


:rotfl2:


Oh I'm GLAD they are delaying. It just means more bugs fixed...

:rotfl2:

You suck UBI.


I'll believe it when I see it..not holding my breath.

[Crécy]

Yikes! Anytime you're using mods, always use JSGME to install them (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1309434&postcount=2). Makes changing mods out a breeze!

Yes, I know. Some of the mods did not install when using that so I had to put them manually :(.

[John Channing]

Second week of May?


:rotfl2:


Oh I'm GLAD they are delaying. It just means more bugs fixed...

:rotfl2:

You suck UBI.

Here is a part of the Subsim FAQ that might interest you...


We do not want SUBSIM Review and the Radio Room forums to degenerate into a collection of *This game sux!!!!* and other immature rants.


or maybe not.

JCC

[Mr.Elendig]

I'm late to the party, so this have probably been mentioned before, but I remember a fairly high number of the same bugs being fixed in patches for sh3 too. Looks like ubi never learns :arrgh!:

Anyway, on to something slightly less constructive.

I love the SH serie and really hope that ubi will finally start to really listen to their community this time around.

[lorka42]

definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over the same way, and expecting a different outcome.
good luck with that.

[Arclight]

Doesn't work qualify as insanity then? :hmm2:

[Cal Dega]

Maybe the reason Ubisoft isn't releasing the patch for the U.S. is because they think we already fixed the problems ourselves with mods from sites like this one.

[basti107]

Maybe the reason Ubisoft isn't releasing the patch for the U.S. is because they think we already fixed the problems ourselves with mods from sites like this one.

so they can focus on the bugs the modders can not fix :)

[Don_D_Dwain]

Well, I hope they mean Second week of May in 2010.


P.S.
Just kidding. And enjoy this until then......http://www.uboat.net/gallery/

[lynx]

Hello to all; Second week of May, surely? , soon they will say to us that for the end of June:down:

[Seeadler]

German Ubisoft Support Center said: Patch postponed indefinitely!

Source (http://ubisoft-de.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_de.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13405)


ACHTUNG! Voraussichtlicher Patch-Release-Termin auf unbestimmte Zeit verschoben!

Translation:
Attention! Estimated patch release date postponed indefinitely!

[Ragtag]

German Ubisoft Support Center said: Patch postponed indefinitely!

Source (http://ubisoft-de.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_de.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13405)



Translation:
Attention! Estimated patch release date postponed indefinitely!

I'm not surprised at all. It's exactly what i expect from Ubisoft.

[Topo65]

But that's not the same as said before?

"Indefinitely" is better than ever, I suppose. :hmmm:

[Feuer Frei!]

German Ubisoft Support Center said: Patch postponed indefinitely!

That pretty much tells me that the focus for the game is going away.
This does not bode well for further patches.
Certainly the priorities are elsewhere, with more profitable ventures i would say.
That's life.
That's business.
*shrugs shoulders*

[The General]

It's not like Ubisoft are unwilling to fund another Patch, if sales were bad that would be understandable, but the work is already done. Patch 1.2 exists and obviously has done for some time, they have it in Russia don't they? Why postpone its release indefinitely unless there are some legal issues? What could they be? :hmmm: Is there any way to get the files from Russia? It sounds like a goddamned Cold-war conspiracy thriller!

[doomlordis]

Stop freaking out , the patch is coming. Its just bad translation.

[Feuer Frei!]

Stop freaking out , the patch is coming. Its just bad translation.
Nope, translation is spot on.
As for freaking out? Far from it.

[doomlordis]

WARNING! Estimated patch release date postponed indefinitely! We ask for forgiveness and thank you for your patience!

Ithink it just means they cant give an exact date , thats all.

If it Read :

WARNING! Estimated patch postponed indefinitely!

Then i would agree with you.

[SabreHawk]

Im still hopeful that the delay is due to more work being required, and that maybe a complete re-write of most everything is being done.
I mean given that most have indicated a problem with just about everything that a re-write of everything might be just what they are doing.
But I certainly don't think they have abandoned it, thats just silly.

If the devs are working it into what they im sure intended it to be at release, im sure that will take considerable time. Time they didn't have before, but now that the sim is bringing in cashflow the time and expense is availble to them.
In my mind it's the crew animations and routines that can take more time than any thing and may even require the entire team's efforts including getting motion capture actors into it to get the crew as active as originally intended, and much like what we see in the video demos. Im sure this can be very time consuming.

[Feuer Frei!]

Maybe the Russians are giving Ubisoft feedback on the 1.20 so that Ubisoft can release to us a better version of the 1.20!
Wouldn't that pee you off if you were a Russian SH 5 gamer? You got the beta 1.20 to test and keep, the rest of us get the proper 1.20 :haha:

[pythos]

I would not be in any way surprised if the patch has been shelved.

If I were Ubi devs, and saw the kinds of vitriol against the game, the "I'm not buying this game because", the "ubisoft sucks", and other such threads, I would not feel all that great or motivated to serve a niche market filled with jerks that hate my guts because my company rushed me and my crew on getting the game out. The last post was also not very nice or helpful. Being an sh player you already acknowledge that you are a tester, as far as Russia getting "stuck" with the beta patch, that is just mean spirited to say. The thread title "spread the love" was hijaked and turned into yet another, bash ubi and sh5 thread, how would you, as a dev feel about that Now take into that the fact Assassin's creed is selling well, and the audience is far more appreciative than we have been.

We have allowed DRM to virtually mortally wound SH.:nope: (every time someone decided to not get the game because of the protection scheme, one more nail was driven into the coffin no matter how righteous you thought you were.)

I certainly hope they are indeed completely re-doing the game though, and getting features that were to work, and are in the game, just not activated, to operate correctly.

[Buckster]

if there are no further patches I'll be looking to return mine

[Bilge_Rat]

I would not be in any way surprised if the patch has been shelved.

If I were Ubi devs, and saw the kinds of vitriol against the game, the "I'm not buying this game because", the "ubisoft sucks", and other such threads, I would not feel all that great or motivated to serve a niche market filled with jerks that hate my guts because my company rushed me and my crew on getting the game out. The last post was also not very nice or helpful. Being an sh player you already acknowledge that you are a tester, as far as Russia getting "stuck" with the beta patch, that is just mean spirited to say. The thread title "spread the love" was hijaked and turned into yet another, bash ubi and sh5 thread, how would you, as a dev feel about that Now take into that the fact Assassin's creed is selling well, and the audience is far more appreciative than we have been.

We have allowed DRM to virtually mortally wound SH.:nope: (every time someone decided to not get the game because of the protection scheme, one more nail was driven into the coffin no matter how righteous you thought you were.)

I certainly hope they are indeed completely re-doing the game though, and getting features that were to work, and are in the game, just not activated, to operate correctly.

:sign_yeah:

[Buckster]

this is the first game in ages - across any platform where I feel genuinely agreeved - I loved SH4 - but there are just too many bugs in SH5.

I for one will not be buying SH6 - unless its given free to SH5 owners

[Leftydad]

This hysteria goes on every time UBI releases a SH title, btw.

[Buckster]

Leftydad - don't remember SH4 being that bad out of the box ?

[Leftydad]

Oh....exact same stuff went on with that title.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Leftydad - don't remember SH4 being that bad out of the box ?

Not as bad as 5 for sure, but it had it's problems and plenty of naysayers at the time.

Seeing folks option of it now gives one hope for 5 if it is properly patched and continues to be supported with mods.

[Athlonic]

German Ubisoft Support Center said: Patch postponed indefinitely!

Source (http://ubisoft-de.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_de.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13405)



Translation:
Attention! Estimated patch release date postponed indefinitely!


Guys, I will make you feel better :


"Patch postponed indefinitely!" was already written on april 12 2010.
So the last info from the devs about the 2nd week of may is still "hopeable"

:03:

PS: here a snapshot cache of the page, dated april 26 2010 :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D9i3J09yjtIJ:ubisoft-de.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_de.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php%3Fp_faqid%3D13405+Wann+erscheint+der+P atch+1.2+und+welche+Anpassungen+werden+enthalten+s ein%3F&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

[Susexx]

I will try to take files from Russian version 1.2 and to collect the patch, but it long enough. I will lay out tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

[Bilge_Rat]

leftydad is correct, sh3 and 4 had as many bugs when released. Everyone now conveniently forgets about friendly escorts shooting each other, ships capsizing or sinking for no reasons, ships running aground, etc, etc.

just this weekend in SH4, I saw 2 IJN DDs blow themselves up with their own DCs:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3922/sh4dd001.jpg

...certainly simplifies your task when you are trying to escape...:rotfl2:

[The General]

Guys, I will make you feel better :


"Patch postponed indefinitely!" was already written on april 12 2010.
So the last info from the devs about the 2nd week of may is still "hopeable"

:03:

PS: here a snapshot cache of the page, dated april 26 2010 :

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D9i3J09yjtIJ:ubisoft-de.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_de.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php%3Fp_faqid%3D13405+Wann+erscheint+der+P atch+1.2+und+welche+Anpassungen+werden+enthalten+s ein%3F&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=frThanks for putting our minds at ease Athlonic :up:

[letterboy1]

I don't mind waiting for a patch, but at least provide updates that tell us what is going on.

[longam]

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

No match for domain "UBISOFT-DE.CUSTHELP.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 04 May 2010 00:35:38 UTC <<<

[kylania]

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

No match for domain "UBISOFT-DE.CUSTHELP.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 04 May 2010 00:35:38 UTC <<<


"Second week of May" - from Ubisoft employees on the 26th of April. (http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/7811038658)

[LukeFF]

This better be one hell of a patch that is released, given how long its been delayed now.

[Shiplord]

No match for domain "UBISOFT-DE.CUSTHELP.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 04 May 2010 00:35:38 UTC <<<

Ubisoft-de is a subdomain of the domain www.custhelp.com registered to "Right Now Technologies, Inc" a provider of cloud computing for customers support services

Many companies host their support service sites as subdomains on custhelp.com

examples:
Electronic Arts: http://eade-new.custhelp.com/
Activision: http://activision.custhelp.com
BT Group: http://bt.custhelp.com/app/
Flir Systems: http://flir.custhelp.com/

[Don_D_Dwain]

Well at least Olaf makes good coffee. Too bad that wont be in a patch. Anyway, while waiting for my coffee, I was talking to Olaf, and I asked him if he was ready for this Patch, and he replied that he was born ready, gamers have suffered long enough, time gamers bite back. I thought this was funny. I went to youtube and played this, while in the galley waiting for my coffee. This:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkiuCYIOqbs&feature=PlayList&p=72000B9D1189E079&playnext_from=PL&index=1 and waited a minute, and Olaf became the dancing cook. Hope you enjoy that. PS minimize youtube while in game, in the galley, watch Olaf for a minute.

[jwilliams]

It's almost the second week in May and still no news about the patch. :nope:

Not even a "patch is being worked on and is going well, should be released next week".

Will the patch ever get released?

The total lack of communication is really bad. You would have thought that Ubi would atleast give us regular updates on what is happening with the patch. Especialy considering that they said it was going to be released 12 April and then the 20 April.

I want to play this game!!! but am not able to play it as i would like... e.g. 100 % realism campaign ( dead is dead), but the bugs make it imposible to play like this. And would there be any point playing the campaign with the patch hopefully being released soon?

Guess i'll just have to keep hoping that the patch will be released soon.

http://www.ifonenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ist2_2087909-flight-information-delayed-hd-1080.jpg

[Shadowhunter]

As far as I have had experiences with UBI there is no real game support/patch when they have released a game unless they are threatened by their customers who want to get their money back and so are forced to react.
Waiting indefinitely and doing nothing is their favourite job when they have spit out their latest crap project.
They just go on to the next project and don't "waste" any ressources on their already released games.

In case of the SH series I think they just wait for the modding community to do their job. And look around at all those awful mods (thanks everyone for this)...it works! :nope::damn::cry:

Unfortunately it seems they aren't changing this with SH5. :cry:

But that was the last time I made the mistake of buying an UBI product. :down:

[doomlordis]

everyday the patch is delayed from now i am going to "boo" ubi.

Boo

[The General]

everyday the patch is delayed from now i am going to "boo" ubi.

Boo
I'm with you all the way. Boo Ubisoft!
Boo! :down:

[mattius]

The patch will release on Tuesday 11th May


Please find below the list of improvements to come in the release note below.

SH5 patch 1.2 will be released on the 12th of May.

Changes

- Fix for CO2 not being saved correctly
- Fix for crew morale
- Fix for weather being reset to clear weather after load
- Fixes for crewmen showing under water under certain conditions
- Fixes for ships exploding in ports or hitting the shore
- Now plot course tool is no longer accessible in the bunker
- Several fixes to ship recognition manual
- Man the deck gun / flak gun orders doesn’t cost morale anymore
- No more crewmembers on burning ships
- Several crew animation and interaction fixes
- Fixed some performance problems inside submarine
- Fixed selection contour being visible when a character was already selected
- Fixed a bug where the moon was closer than it should
- Fixed a bug where the sun disk would be visible underneath thick cloud cover
- Fixed torpedo doors
- Fixed torpedo propeller not turning
- Fixed electric torpedoes trail
- Fixed several dials that were not working inside the submarine
- Fixed a bug where the player can get stuck in the sub's outer hatch geometry
- Fixed a problem with magnetic detonators didn't work properly
- Fixed several localization problems on the German version

Features

- Compass added to the game interface
- Return to course order added
- Depth under keel order added

Improvements

- Environmental lighting and effects improvements
- Improvements on particle performance on single core processors
- All multiplayer maps will display the same map info as the map on the solo campaign

Campaign

- Ports in the North Africa in the German territory are under enemy occupation
- South Africa supplies: The existence of another ship that looks identically with the targeted one may generate confusion
- Fixed spawn radius for some convoys (previously spawned on the shore)

[robbo180265]

I don't believe it - the boo's worked:har:

[Athlonic]

I don't believe it - the boo's worked:har:

:haha:

So thanks to Doomlordis, The General and all others who have "Booed" Ubisoft !

:D

[The General]

Anytime :up:

[ingsoc84]

Lets hope the 11th it is!:up:

[Rip]

Well I guess that puts to rest the notion they were fixing more stuff. That is obviously the same sparse list of fixes we saw long ago.

[kylania]

I don't believe it - the boo's worked:har:

To be fair, while we're been waiting for this second required (and oft promised) patch Ubisoft has released Splinter Cell Conviction and patched it twice, released Settler's 7 and patched it four times, patched Assassin's Creed 2 and announced a sequel to both HAWX and AC 2... sooo... yeah. :hmmm:

Well I guess that puts to rest the notion they were fixing more stuff. That is obviously the same sparse list of fixes we saw long ago.

It's actually quite a bit shorter...

[Jack Davidson]

It's actually quite a bit shorter...


Yeah, I was sure I saw a more extensive list somewhere....:hmmm:

Maybe just reworded. :D

[kylania]

Yeah, I was sure I saw a more extensive list somewhere....:hmmm:

Here's the missing stuff from the original patch notes back in late March:


•Shadow optimizations
•Fixed very slow eye light adaptation after a lost device (alt-tab)
•Crewmen on deck change clothes during bad weather

Then all the "Sorry you've waited three weeks, but wait one more and you also get this!" stuff is missing too:


•SH4 ships can now be imported (useful for modders).
•Improvements in the reward system for U-boats in the dynamic campaign
•Improvements to the AI
•Changes to accommodate RU localization will therefore be present in patch 1.2, but will not affect players in a visible form.


Three weeks after the "wait one more week" (a month late from the originally promised release date) we're finally told it'll just be one more week and here's the new stuff we get (minus the old stuff listed above that's apparently been missed/removed/broke/whatever):


- All multiplayer maps will display the same map info as the map on the solo campaign

[Jack Davidson]

Yeah, that's it... they were the things I remember seeing.....

Just went to the Ubi SH5 forum myself and found the thread/list too....

[Feuer Frei!]

Well I guess that puts to rest the notion they were fixing more stuff.

To be fair, while we're been waiting for this second required (and oft promised) patch Ubisoft has released Splinter Cell Conviction and patched it twice, released Settler's 7 and patched it four times, patched Assassin's Creed 2 and announced a sequel to both HAWX and AC 2... sooo... yeah. :hmmm:


Can really only mean one thing:
Silent Hunter 5 is not their priority (anymore)...
I've said it before, as others have, this does not bode well for further support ie patches etc.
I think this may well be the last we'll see of patches and further support.
The orig. list has been shortened, a case of them saying: "hey, we're onto more important and popular projects, but we better get something out, since we communicated that a while back".
I've always been optimistic about this game and it's future...
I just hope i'm wrong.

[Placoderm]

Well I guess that puts to rest the notion they were fixing more stuff. That is obviously the same sparse list of fixes we saw long ago.


Actually,....it's even shorter.:cry:




:nope:

[robbo180265]

Can really only mean one thing:
Silent Hunter 5 is not their priority (anymore)...
I've said it before, as others have, this does not bode well for further support ie patches etc.
I think this may well be the last we'll see of patches and further support.
The orig. list has been shortened, a case of them saying: "hey, we're onto more important and popular projects, but we better get something out, since we communicated that a while back".
I've always been optimistic about this game and it's future...
I just hope i'm wrong.

I think you are probably right. Assuming that sales were not what they expected , they've probably decided to concentrate on other more popular games.

We'll just have to wait and see.

[MaciejK]

It seems they hate us.

[Danevang]

Was Silent Hunter ever a priority with Ubi? I remember every single patch, for every single SH game, being a struggle to get them to release. No one cares about the SH buyers, we're the freak gamers. :)

And about them patching and releasing other games in the mean time, the devs doing SH5 and its patches aren't really the same who patch those other games...so that's not an excuse, that they've been busy patching other games.

Personally I've had it with this game, and the devs. Too bad.

[Feuer Frei!]

It seems they hate us.
It's called business...
One thing i've pondered over though is, surely they were aware of the negative ramifications that were going to come with producing SH5, they knew in what state the game would be released, why produce the game if they weren't going to concentrate on supporting it fully down the track, why release a game that needs continued support, putting out a niche game, ie its support base limited, ie less sales ie less profits...
Rather than admitting their priorities do lie elsewhere, with much more lucrative markets/games :hmmm:
And perhaps not releasing SH5 at all and doing what they seem to be doing at the moment: focusing their attentions elsewhere.
Don't get me wrong, i am grateful for the release...

[ingsoc84]

Well, Im very grateful they are optomizing the game for single core users, being that they have absolutely no obligation to do so when they min sys requirements calls for duo core, despite being at times frustrated with the wait, at least they are doing (for single core users) more than they need to, however, I still find it strange that so many who have much faster systems are having graphic issues with the game, and that support should be quicker, that is a shame that those addresses were not addressed much earlier. Still, despite all the dev's do on any game, there are always people who have issues with its playability, thus making patches a necessity, its just been par for the course with the advent of the internet and even the ability to patch up games, before you had to wait for a copy of CGN to get a patch,and before that, there was no such thing as a patch, however, I think the pre patch games worked the best right out of the box, but they were much more simple and still fun to play, microprose Gunship for the commodore 64 was a really cool game back in 86/87 when a lot of todays gamers were not even born. I can date myself even further and say we were the first on my block to have "pong" way back in the early 70's and the "blip blip blip" of such a simple game was still fascinating for a kid of 13

[Anvart]

I have read at Buka's forum that russian users are disappointed by 1.2 patch...
The following patch is urgently necessary! :haha:

[doomlordis]

Russians did not get a patch, it came retail as 1.2.

[Anvart]

If you don't know...
Russian funs have SH5 since same time as the western players... :DL

[The General]

I think this may well be the last we'll see of patches and further support.I concur.

[doomlordis]

I am going to create a mod that transports 50 of us into the game for real (using a microwave i have modded with a modded molecular hairdryer) , i bags being on watch rotation!
Neil can be Captain.

[Cap.Palla]

I think this may well be the last we'll see of patches and further support.


I think SH5 is the end of the SH series :wah:

[Feuer Frei!]

I am going to create a mod that transports 50 of us into the game for real (using a microwave i have modded with a modded molecular hairdryer) , i bags being on watch rotation!
Neil can be Captain.
Why 50 and why would i want to be "in" the game?
It's hard enough from the outside :DL

[doomlordis]

50 cause i said so and if you dont get with the cause i will transport you into WOW!

[Feuer Frei!]

50 cause i said so and if you dont get with the cause i will transport you into WOW!
Hmm :hmmm:
SH5 and no women? Or...
WOW and women?
:salute:

[doomlordis]

There is a rather hot women who posts here....

[John Channing]

I am going to create a mod that transports 50 of us into the game for real (using a microwave i have modded with a modded molecular hairdryer) , i bags being on watch rotation!
Neil can be Captain.

Who is Neil?

JCC

[Feuer Frei!]

Who is Neil?

JCC
:haha: It's amazing...they still can't get it right.

[Arclight]

There is a rather hot women who posts here....
I don't care if she's sweating, does she look good?

[Anvart]

I will try to take files from Russian version 1.2 and to collect the patch, but it long enough. I will lay out tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
Binary files from root folder... not bad idea!
Where?

[robbo180265]

There is a rather hot women who posts here....


I don't care if she's sweating, does she look good?

I vote this post of the month:up:


:har:

[Susexx]

I have read at Buka's forum that russian users are disappointed by 1.2 patch...
The following patch is urgently necessary! :haha:


Russian users are disappointed by eternally something, it at us in blood. Here Europe groans because of a patch, and we have already played and have condemned. :haha:

[karamazovnew]

I don't care if she's sweating, does she look good?

She'll make you wanna scream!

- Image removed due to complaints from the dude and his 2 friends below the belt - :D

[Herodotus]

Oh man, I need a cold shower...

[SabreHawk]

Oh man, I need a cold shower...

Me and you both, not to mention a recent visual memory wipe.:dead:

[Feuer Frei!]

Looks are not as important as personality...
however
in light of that picture.............
personality is not applicable!