Fader_Bergs Nomograph

[Fader_Berg]

A more handy version of Fader_Berg improved nomograph, (inomo). It shows km per minutes and meters per seconds, (for fixed wire).
modMerge compatible, makes it possible to merge with any mod or earlier setup.

http://www.skyffet.net/nomograph.jpg

Download here (http://www.skyffet.net/Fader_Bergs_Nomograph.zip).

Enjoy...

EDIT:
How to use it...
If you want km per minutes the time scale (Zeit) represents minutes and you'll read the left hand side of the middle scale (km/M). In the example above: 8 knots, 5 km, 20 minutes.
If you want to read meters per second, the time scale represents seconds and you should use the right hand side of the middle scale (m/s). Above... 8 knots, 80 meters, 20 seconds.

[Pisces]

There is something wrong with your scales, or atleast how you name them. You have a knots (knoten) scale on the left, but also a scale (middle) that shows kilometers/minute and meters/second. Both are speeds! Where is the distance scale? One of those should be it for the nomograph to work. Please explain which 3 distance, time and speed values you tried to cross with the line the picture. I can't make mathematical sense out of this.

[Pisces]

I looked some further into it. The km/M scale seems to be just the distance scale in km. But the /M part added to it makes no sense as shown above. It's a speed label that doesn't belong here. If you want to add a km/M and/or m/s scale it should be at the left one (with different colors than the knots) or add a forth line next to it that is properly displaced and strechted for the numbers to match. But the latter solution would require it to be a very long nomograph, probably to impractical for on the screen.

[Pisces]

Ok, it does work, but the labels are misleading. The time scale is both minutes (incase km/M) and seconds (incase m/s). I'm sorrt for all the fuzz, but I do think the lables should be made a bit more clearer. Loose the "/M" and "/s" under the middle scale but add the Min and sek(unde) under the time scale.

[Fader_Berg]

Loose the "/M" and "/s" under the middle scale but add the Min and sek(unde) under the time scale.
Hmmm... I've got to think about that. I didn't think of it, that they could be mistaken as speed. It's obvoius now that you mention it. But when you know their function, the labels couldn't be better...

[Rubini]

This is a great addition to everyone that not have it in the nav map as default. But please just make it as the one that we have on GWX nav map for example (the scales)...like Pisces said seems that something is not ok in the middle scale for now.:up:

[Fader_Berg]

This is a great addition to everyone that not have it in the nav map as default. But please just make it as the one that we have on GWX nav map for example (the scales)...like Pisces said seems that something is not ok in the middle scale for now.:up:
This one differs from the others because it lets you calculate meters per second too, which you can't do with the others. The scales are fine... I maybe should write instructions how to use it though. :hmmm:

EDIT: Done!

[Rubini]

EDIT:
How to use it...
If you want km per minutes the time scale (Zeit) represents minutes and you'll read the left hand side of the middle scale (km/M). In the example above: 8 knots, 5 km, 20 minutes.
If you want to read meters per second, the time scale represents seconds and you should use the right hand side of the middle scale (m/s). Above... 8 knots, 80 meters, 20 seconds.

Now i understood, isn´t velocity but the distance that a ship travel in a given minutes (in the example 20min running at 8knots=5km). OK!
Have it now on my WS basic GUI (for stock game).:up:

[CaptainNemo12]

As Pisces said, if you could re-label the scales to match the one in GWX it would be a great mod!

P.S: Is this nomograph also movable?

[Fader_Berg]

I realize that I've got to be wrong here. The labels have changed and the download is updated.

:salute:

[Pisces]

Another thing, between 0.1km and 1km, I think it could use some more marks. I haven't got a clue what that single small mark inbetween should represent.

But I guess you could also use the meter and seconds scale for this. Not a big issue.

[LGN1]

Hi Fader_Berg,

thanks for the mod. I like it :up:

Just two comments:

I cannot start the line on the map at the mark because the tool is on top of the map. I think it would be better if you move the scale to the boundaries of the texture. This way you can draw on the map close to the mark.

I think a version with longer times and larger distances would be more useful. I guess most player use the Speed-distance tables in the Nav map. These tables work fine for times < 120 min. It starts to get tedious for longer times (2h steps in the tables). Maybe two version would be great.

Cheers, LGN1

[Fader_Berg]

Another thing, between 0.1km and 1km, I think it could use some more marks. I haven't got a clue what that single small mark inbetween should represent.

But I guess you could also use the meter and seconds scale for this. Not a big issue.
It represents 0.5. As you already said. The precision is a whole lot better if using the meter scale in such cases.

I think a version with longer times and larger distances would be more useful.
You can use longer distances in this nomograph too. In the screenshot below, I could also been calculating 8 knots, 50km, 200 minutes. This might give a little distorted result, but works to some extent.
I draw a line first, then I position the nomograph after one end of it and adjust the line after that. I thought about to make the scales just at the edge of the tga for the reason you mention. But I got in to a aesthetic dilemma. It just didn't look good. :)

[Pisces]

The trick is to first draw a line on the map (a bit wider than the tool), and then move the tool over it so a known value of speed or time is over an endpoint. Then you can drag the other end of the line until the other value is crossed.

[LGN1]

Hi Fader_Berg and Pisces,

thanks for the tip. I created my own version with the marks at the border. Requires less clicks in the future :)

Cheers, LGN1

[makman94]

thats a very nice adding by you Fader Berg !
and also is very clever to add this new scale in the middle to represent meter-sec for using at fix wired method !
a really nice and clever adding :yeah:
well done !

[Fader_Berg]

Updated with a StrTactMap without the static nomograph to the right.