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Gandalfi2005

03-23-10, 06:40 AM

[REL] Haramirs Escorts Self Awareness Mod 1.1

This Mod makes Escorts much more aggresiv and Convoy attacks much more harder then in Stock SH5. This has been archivied by adding some more realistic strategies and adding a new status model for escorts. For more information read the 'readme' or the information below.

This Mod doesnt include any modded sensor settings. I recommend to use a sensor mod additionaly like Ducimus 'RUB_AI_Sensor_Tweaks' or my
'Haramirs Sensor Mod V1.1' wich you can find here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=165675.

Here we go ...

Download Link V1.0: http://www.filefront.com/15908663/Haramirs%20Escorts%20Self%20Awareness%20Mod%201.0. 7z
Download Link V1.1: http://www.filefront.com/15956845/Haramirs%20Escorts%20Self%20Awareness%20Mod%201.1. 7z

cothyso have merged the V1.1 with BARF Damage Assessment v1.1. Wich is a great idea. HESAM will support BARF DA in the next version.
Download Link HESAM V1.1 + BARF DA V1.1 Download Link by cothyso : http://www.mediafire.com/?mj3m1glmmyj

Readme :

Warning !!!
THis Mod is a Script Mod. Scripts can have several side effects in the gameplay and can have logical errors. So be aware and do at least a copy of the Original Folder regarding to this Mod.
For this Mod this is ...SH5/data/scripts/ai or use the JSGME Mod Enabler.

1.1
Balancing issues for later war Convoys. During later war, the convoys will be heavily protected by escorts. Up to 35 and more escorts are placed in a circle around the whole Convoy. Gap between the Escorts is lower then 1000 meter. So with permanent Alert State they allways detect me, even if im in Silent Running Mode at Periscope depth with both engine off.
-Added a new State for Escorts (StateCruiseEscort). Escort Sensors are reduced to 70% during Cruise State (if they dont are aware of you).

1.0
- Ship Operation Strategy Follow :
Added a new Ship Strategy and syncronized with the existing ones wich cause the Escort to go for there contact with AK (full speed) above a Contact range of 800 Meters and Contact is submerged.
While Contact is sufaced they already do that. But now they will continue AK when you crash dive or even when they detect you above 800 Range while you are submerged. It only works for 'Ship Operation Follow' and Escorts that have a weight > 1000 kg for now. For the lighter escorts i will add a similiar strategy in a next version. THere are more Strategies for escort groups wich need some more investigation, debuging and testing activities from my side. And yes, we have now the power to develop our own strategies. I see great, great Mods on the horizon belonging to the AI.
- Ship State Model :
Added a new State just for Escorts and syncronized with the existing ones.
Now, all Escorts will use there Sensors with 100% effeciency belonging to their crew rating while they are on Cruise.
InStock SH5 only Elite and Veteran Ships have this privilege, all other are restrictied to 50% during Cruise State.
They will still have their normal crew rate restricition. In Stock this restriction were cutted once again in Cruise State. Maybe this leads to the poor Aggro Managment.
This Mod is still Beta and have to be tested under several conditions.
My Current test belonging to a small single mission with 2 VW Destroyer wich are escorting one freighter.
In addition this Mod will be expanded. But that takes some time.

Hope you enjoy it.

Greetings

reaper7

03-23-10, 07:05 AM

Now this sound Interesting, have you noticed if the dumbed down novice cruisers and destroyers stop just sailing on and start to search?
Thanks for AI Mod. :up:

Gandalfi2005

03-23-10, 07:22 AM

Now this sound Interesting, have you noticed if the dumbed down novice cruisers and destroyers stop just sailing on and start to search?
Thanks for AI Mod. :up:

Now every Escort above 1000 kg will go AK to the contact Spot until they reach the spot at 800 Meter. Then they change the tactic to Slow for better Sensor effectiveness to get an update on the contact. If they come closer then 200 meters, they go AK and f... you with Depth Charges. In theory .... lot of testing ahead :)
But there are more strategies for Hunter Groups etc.. I have to debug and test them to get an idea whats going wrong there. Takes some time

sergei

03-23-10, 07:27 AM

Sounds interesting, I'll be watching this one. :up:

Therion_Prime

03-23-10, 08:49 AM

Sounds good so far! :up:

When expanding your mod please don't doverdo it and keep in mind that the convoi escorts' main task was to bring the convoy to it's destination alive and not to go hunting U-Boats for hours.

You know, I had a bad experience in SH3 GWX, where I was hunted for over 12 hours by 4 escort DDs, while the convoi was left completely unprotected.
They should have driven me off or forced me to dive deep (and try to kill me for a SHORT time period), while calling in support (CAS / hunter killer group) and then resume protecting the convoi.

This totally unrealistic experience actually made me uninstall GWX.

But I'm sure you already knew this, so I'll just shut up. ;)

Bilge_Rat

03-23-10, 08:56 AM

sounds very interesting.

Gandalfi2005

03-23-10, 09:11 AM

The nice thing with SH5 Scripting mechanic is, you can take all that into account :yeah:

gimpy117

03-23-10, 11:11 AM

agreed they shouldn't be so bloodthirsty that they leave the entire convoy behind!

AOTD_Rhonen

03-23-10, 03:26 PM

Even if the destroyers are too devoted maybe a little bit or thirsty for blood, better than before it is.
Great Work :yeah:

before they have even ignored one. :har:
Damn AI :damn:

Great work. now it's tricky to stay alive or escaping.:rock:

PL_Andrev

03-25-10, 04:44 AM

Added a new Ship Strategy and syncronized with the existing ones wich cause the Escort to go for there contact with AK (full speed) above a Contact range of 800 Meters and Contact is submerged.
While Contact is sufaced they already do that. But now they will continue AK when you crash dive or even when they detect you above 800 Range while you are submerged. It only works for 'Ship Operation Follow' and Escorts that have a weight > 1000 kg for now.

1. What the "AK" is?
2. Are your sure about escort weight >1000 kg? My car have 1500kg...
Maybe do you mind "1000 BRT" ?

pcelt

03-25-10, 09:55 AM

Gandalfi--Apologies for directing this query at you but you seen the best qualified to notice. Have you come across in your script delvings any Escort/DD script the effect of which would be to get an escort/DD to simply shadow a Uboat keeping station with it at 10 Kilometres at a speed of about 14 knots for very long distances but never approaching or attacking.
This has happened to me twice in the last week and several others report similar bizarre behaviour.
It would be very helpful if this form of pointless Escort/DD behaviour could be terminated or better still modified to contain a credible point and purpose.
The pointless and rediculous nature of this particular behaviour can be illustrated by the fact that because the escort doggedly keeps station with you and does nothing else ,you can eventually navigate close to land in such a way that the Escort will crash into the land and wreck .
It would certainly contribute to game immersiveness and belief if this particular form of script (if that is what it is) could be eliminated/modified.
My apologies again and thanks in advance for any insights you have on this.

JotDora

03-25-10, 09:57 AM

May i help with the first question?

AK means "flank speed".

It is a shortcut for the german command "Äußerste Kraft" => flank speed!

PL_Andrev

03-25-10, 12:43 PM

New AI tactics for you: here few IIWW antisubmarine tactics was found like:
- Operation Plaster
- Beta Search
- Pineapple
- Raspberry
- Creeping Attack

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6539/watu.jpg

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/interactive/games/battle_atlantic/index_embed.shtml

Hope to help you...
:up:

Ablemaster

03-25-10, 01:03 PM

Gandalfi this is a very interesting mod, and esential to game play, the current ai are dumbed down and their reactions are not realistic, im watching this thread, have downloaded your mod and checking it out, any improvement and realistic step forward is great, thanks for the work mate.

Sgtmonkeynads

03-25-10, 01:26 PM

Once spotted, I mean once your sub enters the gray circle of a DD, It now V-lines for you.
It circles the last spot it saw you and then moves on to the place you should be at if you kept the heading you had when it saw you last.
The one that saw me also called in back up from Dover. They kept me pinned for about 12 hours, almost making me come up for air.
When I did finally have to come up, sonar shown that I was alone. I slowly came up from 70 meters, stopping at periscope depth just to make sure that I was alone.
Well, I wasn't. One had stayed behind at full stop, just waiting for me. Being empty, and out of battery from maneuvers to avoid depth charges,
I had to surface or suffocate.
I died, in a glorious shoot out.
This mod as is....is a keeper !
I say...the DD's now have a brain, and it is working very well.
Thank you.

Ablemaster

03-25-10, 01:33 PM

Sgtmonkeynads that sounds pretty good, looks like the AI have left school and gone to play in the grown ups world now. Juat going to check it out tonight.

Gandalfi2005

03-28-10, 11:49 AM

New Version 1.1 available. See first Post in the Thread.

Hope you enjoy it. :up:

cothyso

03-28-10, 04:20 PM

SteelViking

03-28-10, 11:13 PM

Thank you sooooo much for this mod. There is definitely still room for improvement of the AI's hunting ability, but this is a huge step in the right direction. I experienced my first actually tense escort evasion in SH5 right after installing this.:salute:

Gandalfi2005

03-29-10, 12:46 AM

Thank you for merging. I will check and implement this damage settings in my mod in the next version.
Reason why i didnt have it already is, that I havent checked the ship models (zones). My first thought was ... maybe we can handle that damage issues in the ship models like NYGM in SH3 did. But until there is no Mod belonging to this issue, i think its a good idea to handle the damage issues via scripts. :up:

ddrgn

04-01-10, 02:17 PM

Awesome work here, thanks! They really are more aware now ';]

ironkross

04-02-10, 04:48 PM

BARF Damage Assessment v1.1 merged with Haramirs Escorts Self Awareness Mod v1.1

I'd suggest you guys start working together on this.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mj3m1glmmyj/z_HESAM_1.1_ _BARF_DA_1.1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mj3m1glmmyj/z_HESAM_1.1_%20_BARF_DA_1.1.rar)
Thanks, and on the BARF thread it says you should start a new campaign.?. Is this necessary? If not I will use this combo mod now.

Gandalfi2005

04-03-10, 12:46 AM

New Campaign is not necessary. For Haramirs Mod you can start right up from your last save Game. I've tested this serveral times. Should be similiar with BARF.

PL_Andrev

06-18-10, 02:42 PM

siebr00

06-18-10, 02:56 PM

Dear TDW,

I can't get the Speech recognition 1.4 from Skwasjer working with your 3.0.0.4:wah:.
No problem with earlier releases of your mod.
Any idea where the problem is originating from?:hmmm:

Please keep your :yeah:invaluable work going. :up:

Cheers,
SiebR00
:salute:

mamlasraz

01-20-13, 02:25 AM

I would like to say hello and thank for this amazing mod!!!! very well:):):)

Trevally.

01-20-13, 04:37 AM

Have you tried TDWs IRAI:06:

This mod will not work if you use IRAI

Ost

09-26-18, 05:25 AM

[REL] Haramirs Escorts Self Awareness Mod 1.1

Download Link V1.0: http://www.filefront.com/15908663/Haramirs%20Escorts%20Self%20Awareness%20Mod%201.0. 7z
Download Link V1.1: http://www.filefront.com/15956845/Haramirs%20Escorts%20Self%20Awareness%20Mod%201.1. 7z

Sorry, we couldn't find that one!....

Someone can give the working link for downloading of Haramirs Escorts Self Awareness Mod, please?

Oby

10-04-18, 05:13 PM

Here you go:

Haramirs Escorts Self Awareness Mod 1.1
(https://mega.nz/#!WTwiXYyZ!nlRl5tPIFCk60AgzEuOGE444m2pS9yxo1GxyBYD _wDY)
https://mega.nz/#!WTwiXYyZ!nlRl5tPIFCk60AgzEuOGE444m2pS9yxo1GxyBYD _wDY

Haramirs Sensor Mod 1.1

https://mega.nz/#!XewwwC7C!eYmRSNJ5llDUAk5a9vT1h6XxhvNnW3QSgVRsHOR yFNM

:salute:

cpt blueballs

10-05-18, 10:35 AM

Is there a deptcharge chake effekt in this mod? Something a realy have been misssing?