[REL] Enhanced Recognition Manual

[reaper7]

Enhanced Ship ID Recognition manual V1.02

This is a version of the stock Silent Hunter 5 ship ID manual, with extra info on the Target displayed.

Info displayed is Length, Mast Height, Draft (Depth in water), Tonnage and last the max speed of target. (Length, Mast and Draft measurments are in meters).

V1.00: Inital conversion of the recon Manual to display ship info.
(JDSME Compatable - Place into MODS folder)
V1.01: Fixed mistake in in files lenght changed to Length.
Changed all entries for Speed to Max Speed.
Changed Font to a darker shade.
V1.02: Adds Missing info to NOL_T3Cimmaron

Stock Recon Manual

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Merchant-Standard-1.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Destroyer-Standard.jpg


Enhanced Recon Manual

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Merchant-Standard.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Destroyer-Enhabced.jpg


Download from Here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606

[VirtualVikingX]

Super nice!

[MaciejK]

Could it be moved away from the scope so that it doesnt block the view?

[TheDarkWraith]

Could it be moved away from the scope so that it doesnt block the view?

that is something I'm trying to find and do in my UI mods. I'm adding his great work to them.

[sergei]

Nice work :up:

EDIT: Just one thing. I may have spotted a typo
Should be 'Length'

[reaper7]

Nice work :up:

EDIT: Just one thing. I may have spotted a typo
Should be 'Length'

:doh: Guess I'm getting dyslexic these days, have them all spelt that way too. Will redo and update soon. Thanks for feedback.

Ok took a look at them, no easy way to fix, will have to restart them from scratch will take about 2 days to finish. If ye want to use current version for now (and just look at that spelling with one eye) and I will post in new version with all fixes.

[szultz]

Can you somehow enable the recognition manual for auto TDC mode? I'm more of casual player these times 'cause I have little time to play but would still like to identify ships, to get draft for obvious purposes.
Great mod though!

[Stormfly]

nice Thank You ! :DL

[piri_reis]

Nice :salute:

[Kromus]

Nice! :yeah:

[TopCat]

O my god! You guys are so quick! Thank you for this one. Why the h... these features are not in the game.
I'd rather give all the money I had to pay for this game to the mods than to ubi!

[coronas]

Nice! :yeah:

[reaper7]

Version 1.01 released see first post.

[krupp_88mm]

would be perfect if it would ad where to aim from with the stadimeter, i have noticed warships and troopships are generally from the superstructure, destroyers are from the mast, and some freighters are from the smokestacks.. annoying as hell makes the game unplayable for me because i will not use auto targeting auto mapupdate crap

[gutted]

Cool, thanks mang! :D

Since this is just texture tweaks, hopefully that data wont change in upcomming patches.

My advice:
Use my parser right now to fetch the data.
Save it to a text file, and store it away.
When patch comes fetch the data again and store it to another file.
Use a file compare (like winmerge) to see if (and what) changed.


I have a feeling some of these mast values might change when the stadimeter gets looked at.

:yeah:

[reaper7]

Cool, thanks mang! :D

Since this is just texture tweaks, hopefully that data wont change in upcomming patches.

My advice:
Use my parser right now to fetch the data.
Save it to a text file, and store it away.
When patch comes fetch the data again and store it to another file.
Use a file compare (like winmerge) to see if (and what) changed.


I have a feeling some of these mast values might change when the stadimeter gets looked at.

:yeah:

Thanks for the suggestion gutted. Have just backed them up. Hopefully they do get updated - would be great to have correct values for the stadimeter. :)

[reaper7]

Anyone know how to change the name on a posted thread or is it only moderators that can do it?
Wish to change this thread to [REL] Enhanced Recognition manual V1.0 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1315880#post1315880)1
to reflect the latest verion but can't figure it out. Have gone into edit and advanced but cannot change the name.

[gutted]

Dont know if you saw it or not, because the thread got shuffled off the front page pretty quickly... but i had uploaded the final version of the data fetcher (1.3) yesterday.

just a heads up.

Direct download link (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1602&act=down)

[rsvette12]

How can I turn on the recognition manual, asked on another thread said click on "WO" no idea what that means, thank you. Thanks for the hard work. :yeah:

Rich

[reaper7]

Dont know if you saw it or not, because the thread got shuffled off the front page pretty quickly... but i had uploaded the final version of the data fetcher (1.3) yesterday.

just a heads up.

Direct download link (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1602&act=down)

Thanks Gutted, Missed that alright. Hopefully the Dev's give us a reason to use it now - by fixing them values :03:.

How can I turn on the recognition manual, asked on another thread said click on "WO" no idea what that means, thank you. Thanks for the hard work. :yeah:

Rich

(By clicking on "XO") Means to click on the Picture of the XO in the bottom left of the Periscope screen. When you don't have a target locked - this gives you an option to switch TDC between Manual and Auto.
In auto mode you get the 3 circled numbers, in manual you have to imput figures manually one of which is shiptype.
By clicking on the shipclass name ie 'Merchant' the recon manual pops up.
Hope that works for you. :)

[vivieehk]

a very good one!
work perfecetly with the old TDC system mods!

thx

[raymond6751]

I am one of those unfortunate ones who bought the N. American version, the one with minimal docs.

I have been unable to find out how to get the ID Manual to open up in game, and of course, the docs are useless.

Kindly advise so I can view your mod.:timeout:

[Medzell]

If you click on the "active" page after you've got the info it disappears (or at least it did here)

[rsvette12]

HI Reaper:

Thank so much for the help but I am not seeing this xo in the corner would you mind snapping a screenshot for me, would appreciate it, thank you. :yeah:

Rich

[Disruptor]

Hi Reaper7,

Can you check your download link cuz all i get is a empty php file.

Thx in advance

JC

[sergei]

Click on the download link, don't try to 'save as'.

[Disruptor]

Thanks for the hint Sergei.

Regards,

JC

Happy hunting to all!

[reaper7]

HI Reaper:

Thank so much for the help but I am not seeing this xo in the corner would you mind snapping a screenshot for me, would appreciate it, thank you. :yeah:

Rich

If you look at the image at the start of this post you will a pic of him - across from where it says "'XO, following your last target".

[wildcards]

:yeah: Great Job Reaper7

Out of curiosity, where did you find the ship lengths? From a game data file or from an other source?

[rsvette12]

Ok thanks Pal. :)

Rich

[gutted]

:yeah: Great Job Reaper7

Out of curiosity, where did you find the ship lengths? From a game data file or from an other source?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1602

[rsvette12]

Gonna kill me Reaper I lock a target, then I click on the XO letters left of the officer and nothing happens hmm any ideas guys, thanks.

Rich

[reaper7]

Was doing some tests to confirm Draft depths and Mast heights.
As you can see draft from config file is bang on with that reported by the interface.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/PHCC/Silent%20Hunter%205/Draft.jpg


Just doing a rough test to measure distance from ship to see where stadimeter places itself on the scope.
At the 1250m distance the stadimeter lines up the Top of the Mast (Not including the Flag Pole), I wonder if the mast heights in game are without the flagpoles will do some more looking into this.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/PHCC/Silent%20Hunter%205/Distance.jpg

If I find this to be the case and that we have a common point to measure against in the different ship classes.
I shall do up a new release to include those points: Similar to this.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/PHCC/Silent%20Hunter%205/Recon-Manual-Destroyer-Stadimeter2.jpg

[reaper7]

New Verion Posted: V1.02 Adds Missing info to NOL_T3Cimmaron

Download from:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606&act=down

[TheDarkWraith]

New Verion Posted: V1.02 Adds Missing info to NOL_T3Cimmaron

Download from:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=edit&id=1606

I can't download it. Says insufficient privileges.

[rsvette12]

For now Wraith I will post it thru yousendit, it will be there for 7 days and it will be deleted, hope this helps. :up: here you go


http://www.yousendit.com/download/THE3ZGVRcG80b0NGa1E9PQ

Rich

[reaper7]

Strange went into My Uploads and file was not attached even though it had uploaded.
Anyway uploading again. Try agian should be ok now.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606&act=down

[gutted]

New Verion Posted: V1.02 Adds Missing info to NOL_T3Cimmaron

Download from:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606&act=down

And i was just coming to report that :D. Id'ed one, and to my surprise, no info.

[reaper7]

Ya some of the folder had 2 ship files with different names.
I edited both in most case but that one slipped through. :doh:
Hopefully thats them all.

[piri_reis]

Strange went into My Uploads and file was not attached even though it had uploaded.
Anyway uploading again. Try agian should be ok now.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606&act=down

Thanks for the bug fix!
But the link on the first page points to your mod w/ version 1.02, but the file it downloads is 1.01.

[reaper7]

Gonna kill me Reaper I lock a target, then I click on the XO letters left of the officer and nothing happens hmm any ideas guys, thanks.

Rich

Dont lock the target untill after clicking the XO pic and tunring Manual TDC on. Then lock the target, you should have some new options :up:

Thanks for the bug fix!
But the link on the first page points to your mod w/ version 1.02, but the file it downloads is 1.01.

File is 1.02 just forgot to rename it after finishing changes. Thanks for the notice will correct that. Rushed the fix after an omission was noticed. :)

[Onkel Neal]

title updated per request

[reaper7]

Thanks Neal. PM Sent.

[Vreith]

Dont lock the target untill after clicking the XO pic and tunring Manual TDC on. Then lock the target, you should have some new options :up:



File is 1.02 just forgot to rename it after finishing changes. Thanks for the notice will correct that. Rushed the fix after an omission was noticed. :)


Hi Reaper

I know you may have already goten this request, but is there any way you will alow this mode for lazy buggers like me who use the simple 1-2-3 fire line way?

I know Manual way is realistic n all but somtimes i like to just use 1-2-3 system to land 2 torps in the same hole on a ship quickly so she goes down, but with you system of identification i can beter solutions for where to place my shots for breaking there backs etc incl depth of torp for keel hits etc

Cheers in advance

[Maltro]

So you did it Reaper... Nice! :yeah:
Thank you ! I am downloading...

PS: did you received my mail?

[reaper7]

I know Manual way is realistic n all but somtimes i like to just use 1-2-3 system to land 2 torps in the same hole on a ship quickly so she goes down, but with you system of identification i can beter solutions for where to place my shots for breaking there backs etc incl depth of torp for keel hits etc
Cheers in advance

I haven't actually looked into that yet, it may require scripting to do that. And I'm afraid I have no skills in that department.

So you did it Reaper... Nice! :yeah:
Thank you ! I am downloading...

PS: did you received my mail?

??? Hi maltro sre you refering to the stadimeter issue as discused in your thread, if so alas no I havn't figured out that one. Previous update was just to update a tanker that had its info ommited.

I've been playing about trying with the editior and the XO page for the recognition manual trying to get thing to work but have had no luck.
Managed to kill my installation of SH5 though (Just reinstalled).:damn:

[vivieehk]

hi!

i want to know is the data accurate for the UK carrier is correct or not.
it seems the draft is around 7.7 to 8m, but it showed @ 8.2- 9.02m?

i am not sure if i choose a wrong ship :hmmm:

[reaper7]

hi!

i want to know is the data accurate for the UK carrier is correct or not.
it seems the draft is around 7.7 to 8m, but it showed @ 8.2- 9.02m?

i am not sure if i choose a wrong ship :hmmm:

All values are taking from the cfg file for each ship. At the moment we know that the stadimeter is not lining up with the mast heights shown, so there is a problem in game that the masts don't match the ones in cfg file, this could be true of the draft.
I have tried a few in game and the draft on the cfg file matches that as reported by the Torpedo dept selector in game.
I don't know if there's a way to export the models yet to get definitive measurements. :damn:

[Maltro]

Sorry Reaper, I thought you have released the mod you have told me (with the corrected manual wich show us where to do our statement)...

Happy to have this manual too, now I know the tonnage of my target before she sink! :D

So I continue to make my drawing waiting for better means... :arrgh!:

[gutted]

All values are taking from the cfg file for each ship. At the moment we know that the stadimeter is not lining up with the mast heights shown, so there is a problem in game that the masts don't match the ones in cfg file...

I bet they goofed the numbers in the cfg file myself. The height in the cfg for some ships may be more right than others.. which is why the location to take the reading from ship to ship is all over the place.

Thats my theory anyway.

[PL_Andrev]

Hi Reaper

My post is not criticism of your work - we are happy with your more helpful, better version of recognition book than previous (original) but you know, this book is not good readable (small, ugly), without solutions known in SH3/SH4 (standard view / other angles view.

My proposal is: maybe could you help AOTD_Rhonen for his version of recogition book? His version based on original idea known in SH4 and his solution is most most better than "original" small and ugly book.

Link to AOTD_Rhonen proposal: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164588

His version of book:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9281/recog2.jpg

[gutted]

Dude, you need to offer up that sweet scope mask as a mod. I'm tired of looking at the stock one.

[VirtualVikingX]

Its the "Return of the Asses"-mod from the german subforum ;)

[reaper7]

Sorry Reaper, I thought you have released the mod you have told me (with the corrected manual wich show us where to do our statement)...

Happy to have this manual too, now I know the tonnage of my target before she sink! :D

So I continue to make my drawing waiting for better means... :arrgh!:

Thanks Maltro, No that was just a mock up to show could be done to show the point on ship for correct stadimeter reading. This would have to be found for each ship.
Yes if you want to send me your drawings when done I could draw the points on to each ship page.
Have you noticed if the reading at 1x and 4x zoom are the same?

Hi Reaper

My post is not criticism of your work - we are happy with your more helpful, better version of recognition book than previous (original) but you know, this book is not good readable (small, ugly), without solutions known in SH3/SH4 (standard view / other angles view.

My proposal is: maybe could you help AOTD_Rhonen for his version of recogition book? His version based on original idea known in SH4 and his solution is most most better than "original" small and ugly book.

Link to AOTD_Rhonen proposal: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164588



No criticism take from that Antar. Yes I prefer the look of Book type from SH4/SH5. But not having scripting skills I gave up trying to get it to work in the editor - Just went the graphics route and added the info to each ship page in photoshop. :)
AOTD_Rhonen ran into difficulty with his recognition mod at the time, and so this mod was a way for people to have something better than stock.
I would be glad to help AOTD_Rhonen or anyone with there mods in any way I can.
After all its for the Benefit of us all. :up:

[Athlonic]

Nice work here.

Personnaly I prefer the Reaper7's one. I like the new filter option that is very usefull and saves time a lot.

Thank you.

[pca]

Enhanced Ship ID Recognition manual V1.02

This is a version of the stock Silent Hunter 5 ship ID manual, with extra info on the Target displayed.

Info displayed is Length, Mast Height, Draft (Depth in water), Tonnage and last the max speed of target. (Length, Mast and Draft measurments are in meters).

V1.00: Inital conversion of the recon Manual to display ship info.
(JDSME Compatable - Place into MODS folder)
V1.01: Fixed mistake in in files lenght changed to Length.
Changed all entries for Speed to Max Speed.
Changed Font to a darker shade.
V1.02: Adds Missing info to NOL_T3Cimmaron

Stock Recon Manual

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Merchant-Standard-1.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Destroyer-Standard.jpg


Enhanced Recon Manual

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Merchant-Standard.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/reaper7_bucket/Silent%20Hunter%205%20Recon%20Manual%20Mod/Recon-Manual-Destroyer-Enhabced.jpg


Download from Here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1606


How can i have access to the identification manual in the game ?

[Fifi]

Depends what interface you are using.
Stock vanillia, NewUIs, or Magui?
Stock, i think you have to lock target, then clic the type of boat in XO window.
NewUIs, you have to clic soan icon top right tool bar.
Magui, you have to call the captain icon bottom left, and then choose the manual in the list...

[pvtoloko]

: Roca: gracias

[Aktungbby]

pvtoloko!:Kaleun_Salute: You might check the 2 year old date of FiFi's and Roca's last response but welcome aboard!

[THEBERBSTER]

A Warm Welcome Back > pvtoloko :subsim:
You Will Always Find Someone Here To Help You :sunny:
New To Silent Hunter <> Need Help <> Click On My Thread Link. :salute:
Tonnage Bar Fix Here > Tutorial Post #188 For Those Not Using TWOS :/\\!! (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2284492&postcount=188)

[flyer102]

This doesn't have all information for all of the ships, just most of them, hopefully you can update this.

Or maybe its just me.