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Paul Riley
03-09-10, 02:30 PM
One question I have always asked myself ever since I got serious about SH3 was "does having the scopes fully extended impede UBoat performance at all?" Example,I am ploughing through a 15/mps storm,waves are spilling right over the top,its pissing it down and there is a medium fog (what do you expect,I am in the North Sea :up: )and I am chasing a previous sound contact.Now these are not optimal conditions for even considering such an attack never mind actually carrying it out,but I am quite an aggressive player and like to attack in all conditions and adapt the attack accordingly.In this particular scenario the PS is fully raised allowing me to keep my eyes fixed in front of me all the time,so as not to miss the moment the target appears as the UBoat dips beneath the surface momentarily.Does this negatively affect performance in ANY way by creating a 'drag' effect,thus slowing me down?
I have watched my speed for about 30 mins now and cant seem to detect any obvious change other than the sea current slowing me down 1-2 kts.
If it DOES affect performance would the same hold true for submerged operations?.
For the record,I will shadow the contact until nightfall and attack surfaced from a range of approx 2-3km (if the storm doesnt clear that is)

I remember reading about real UBoats in such conditions and I think it did affect performance somewhat,and I know they used to fully lower the scopes before submerging,to prevent the off chance they broke off from the force of submerging at speed.

Thanks.

Panser
03-09-10, 03:24 PM
'Tis a good question, and for a definite answer on whether or not it affects in-game performance I think you'd need to ask one of the "supermod" devs.

I'll say one thing I can definitely answer though - If you're cruising around with your scopes fully raised, you will be a whole lot more noticeable to the enemy.

I think in the real world it would also be heavily discouraged as keeping one or both scopes fully raised would raise the centre of gravity of the boat. This would effectively act as an inverted pendulum stuck on the top of the boat and make it roll a lot more in a heavy seas. I should imagine this could likely damage the periscope(s) by bending or twisting them if the sea was rough enough or they were kept fully extended for excessive periods of time.

Paul Riley
03-09-10, 03:45 PM
I'll say one thing I can definitely answer though - If you're cruising around with your scopes fully raised, you will be a whole lot more noticeable to the enemy.


Oh I know that,I only ever sail like that in rough seas that are coming over the top and ideally in low vis.The low profile would be cancelled out with having the scopes fully extended,and I wouldnt dream of doing it for any length of time on a clear day.

Cheers Panser :up:

HundertzehnGustav
03-09-10, 04:37 PM
no the periscopes and snorkel are independant of sub performance.

especially s snorkel woul be torn off by water resistance at high speeds, yet, in the game, nothing happens.

no performance drop. simple as that :)

Paul Riley
03-09-10, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the replies :know: