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W_clear
02-26-10, 08:11 PM
I want to know that Which one is realistic color.


http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_c5314604ff83336.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_1dcf8960895f61a.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_ff2c286d1e8a0f6.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_7306c21b5b852f5.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_6e2c5463d4ed730.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_417df8a7b795af3.jpg



http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=154951&fpage=0&toread=&page=10

ETR3(SS)
02-26-10, 09:00 PM
All of the above. The color the ocean looks like is dependent upon the time of day, cloud cover, etc.

Galanti
02-26-10, 09:33 PM
Also, they will also look very different from machine to machine, depending on gamma, contrast, digitial vibrance settings, etc.

vergol
02-27-10, 12:24 AM
They're all wrong. There was less pollution 65 years ago.

;)

jmr
02-27-10, 12:47 AM
^^^^
Careful not to underestimate the potency of Bernard's farts.

W_clear
02-27-10, 02:28 AM
SH5 of the water color is wrong for at least.

PL_Andrev
02-27-10, 02:42 AM
Some other photos except sunny & not windy summer weather?

Now looks good:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1254/sh5contestscreenslittor.jpg

Alex
02-27-10, 04:38 AM
All of the above. The color the ocean looks like is dependent upon the time of day, cloud cover, etc.
:agree: totally.

The actual stock sea colour that we've seen in pre-release screenshots is fine, in my opinion. Making it a bit darker should fit the theater of operations perfectly.

Kaleun_Endrass
02-27-10, 06:13 AM
I visited the website W_Clear linked and as far as I could read between the lines, the photos were taken from fleets travelling from the Pacific Ocean to the Indian Ocean, the Red Sea, Japan and so on. Some were from the Mediterranean Sea. Only one group was practicing off the US East coast and the water looks like this:
http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0808/25_21725_9e4111487538531.jpg

Here's some other:
http://www.greatsitkin.org/60sCruises/NorthAtlantic64.jpg http://www.usskretchmer.org/Carver_NorthAtlanticInDec3.jpg

IMO SH5's water looks almost like this.

Decoman
02-27-10, 06:17 AM
Perhaps a clever camera lens trick could simulate the changes in environment colors?

I imagine that the North Sea should look like this:
http://www.decoman.net/linked/northsea.jpg

Or like this. The bright background/sky makes for the bright ocean (reflected I am sure).

http://www.decoman.net/linked/northsea2.jpg

THE_MASK
02-27-10, 06:22 AM
Something i observed while at work today . There was a ship about a kilometre away and there was light rain . Well it looked like the ship was in light fog so i guess light fog should imitate light rain .

JU_88
02-27-10, 06:23 AM
Your photos answered your own question, the Atlantic is not 'one colour' It can be any number of colours depending on the time day, light & weather, the angle you veiw it from etc etc, plus who know if those photos have had their contrast and saturation 'touched up'

Imho people obsess over the colour far too much.

OakGroove
02-27-10, 06:30 AM
What ETR3(SS) and Galanti said.
Different camera settings, angles, tod, sky cover, monitor calibration, compression ....

tonschk
02-27-10, 06:31 AM
:yeah: In my opinion this photo is the best colour of the mediterranean sea :yeah:

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0810/25_21725_6e2c5463d4ed730.jpg



In my opinion this photo is the best colour of the mediterranean sea

ichso
02-27-10, 06:50 AM
As long as it doesn't look light the brisk clear water of a coral atoll, I'm pretty much fine with it.

From the screenshots I've seen so far it also has an acceptable amount of clarity, too. But it is almost a bit too transparent, even in clear waters you hardly ever see the sub-surface part of a ship from above because of foam and shadows and so on.

Seeadler
02-27-10, 07:01 AM
I made these pics 1986 in the North Atlantic in the area of Newfoundland, Labrador, Grand Banks.
Depending on weather, location, time of day, ..., the water color is very different.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3962336434356439.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_6135363737626535.jpghttp://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3638383766663232.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3132373165636138.jpghttp://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_6361313436616166.jpg

Alex
02-27-10, 07:24 AM
@ Seeadler : Very cool pics, Sir, thanks for sharing. :yep:

What matters might not be water colour really, but the weather, in fact :hmm2:. That impacts water colour (probably not in the game though :hmmm:).
Can't wait to stare at my beloved shades of grey. http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8619/amour79.gif

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/51/54608230.jpg

W_clear
02-27-10, 08:36 AM
I know the water color is very different,But we must be unified one most people are recognized by color..

Hartmann
02-27-10, 08:41 AM
There are infinite combinations of colours and light , and itīs impossible representate it with a single colour set in a simulator . :hmmm:

The next step must be a realtime variation of colour and lights in combination with the weather

Galanti
02-27-10, 08:45 AM
There are infinite combinations of colours and light , and itīs impossible representate it with a single colour set in a simulator

I think that's why devs usually go with a more artistic interpretation of the colour, and so far in the Silent Hunter series I have preferred stock water colours. IMO modders may do better to focus on textures, efffects and water behavior than colours.

Armistead
02-27-10, 09:14 AM
I think the water is fine as you have it in real env..

go for that overall look

Seeadler
02-27-10, 10:23 AM
The question is how far in SH5 the ocean color is influenced by pixel shaders, and how far these shaders are customizable for modders?

Here are examples from my own little project, the look/color of the water here is influenced only by shaders. I can change according to the location, weather and other conditions the used shader files and this produced different aspects of the water.
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3133356135303463.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3339353931373036.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3831303337646562.jpg

The Enigma
02-27-10, 10:26 AM
This one looks great:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3831303337646562.jpg