Petition Ubisoft to exempt SHV from DRM?

[OakGroove]

^
Yepp, that pretty much describes the current situation. Well done :yep:

[NEON DEON]

I was a victim of this type of online solo game system in the past. The server went kaput and I could no longer play the game.

It is quite unfortunate that the developers chose this path and I firmly believe if they do not relent that this will be the end of the series.

After seeing the overwhelming negitive response in the poll that was run here, it sounds like they have pretty much alienated core gamers.

:wah::wah::wah:

The King is dead. Long live the King.

[Reece]

I personally think that after some months when the initial buyers have purchased the game a patch will come out, this will be like a second wave of sales, designed for the legitimate people that either haven't got an internet connection or only have dialup that is not good enough for permanent online use! that's a lot of potential buyers, as well as those like me who just plain hate the idea of being online for a single player game!:yep:
Well I hope so anyway!:oops:

[Méo]

legitimate people that either haven't got an internet connection or only have dialup that is not good enough for permanent online use! that's a lot of potential buyers

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0 :hmmm:

[Reece]

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0 :hmmm:It's actually a fact, I know many here in Australia that only have dialup available, less than 100km from the city center!:yep:

[Doctorduran]

My area is on a RIM. No high-speed internet. Had trouble with Totalwar when it was marketed through STEAM. Sometimes 5 minutes to start game. At times I could not connect at all. Support from these companies is useless. I have been playing some games such as Napoleon's Greatest Defeat for several years. Are these online games going to last that long? Will they supply discs for standalone play when the company folds or removes server support? I would like a guarantee form the company.

[jwilliams]

A lot of potential buyers with no connection or dial-up in 2010!!

Maybe, but I guess they were also in the impossibility to get the 1.33 GB GWX 3.0 :hmmm:


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[3Dfr34k2009]

I never trust in a "reliable Internet". No one can assure 24/7 connection at high speed, because is a lie. We need to consider the amount of the bandwidth only required to play SH5 continuously will be huge. I already canceled the pre-order and this is a sad decision because SH is one of my favorite submarine simulators since Silent Service. If UBISOFT continue with this policy, will be a financial disaster for them.

This picture shown what I think about UBISOFT Network maintenance team.
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5959/maintenanceb.jpg

Keep going SUBSIM guys and good hunting!:ping:

[U-Bones]

Signed.

[SodyM]

Signed

[Ducimus]

Not that threads like this do any good, but.....

/signed.

I love being late for the party. :haha:

[robbo180265]

Signed

[EgoApocalypse]

Signed.

PC format game only????

[Arclight]

I love being late for the party. :haha:
Fashionably late. :yep:

No point in showing up before the party get's rolling. :lol:



Didn't I sign this? :hmmm:

What the hey, signed again. Rather see it go.

[GuillermoZS]

Signed.

[Rockin Robbins]

Ubi doesn't care but /signed!

Until Ubi relents:

Refuse to buy SH5.
Refuse to play SH5.
Refuse to mod SH5.
Refuse to post videos of SH5.
Refuse to post tutorials for SH5.

It only encourages them.

[Maltro]

of course. Signed

[BlackSpot]

signed

[Hanomag]

Signed.. :hmmm:

there have been a few of these threads so I hope I didnt duplicate.

[Nisgeis]

This is a junk petition. There is another petition that actually links to a petition site, which may carry some more weight as it has 11k signatures. Putting /signed in this thread or any other thread has no effect whatsoever on anything.

[Madox58]

It will do almost as much good as getting the SDK for SH III Thread.
But OK,
I'm signed.
:)

[Filson]

Avid III & IV player. I would have bought V if I could have played it while on the road, but obviously continuous connection hampers that.

Signed.

[ddrgn]

Not signed.

[SurfnSea]

Dengis!
....Hey, Ubi got it backwards I'm allowed to get it ssa sdrawkcab too, right?

[Barosx2]

Signed.

[iron heart]

Give me my single off line game back u noob's

[U-Bones]

/signed
+1

[Noily]

Signed

[Juliano]

Signed

[fredm2002]

I really want to buy this game and due to DRM.......don't have a good internet connection all the time.

REMOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Consider it signed :)

[USSDorado]

/signed

[Chromius]

Signed


(Legit owner of 8+ Ubisoft Titles)

[KiwiVenge]

I will /sign as well.

I am not willing to take a chance I am one of the unfortunate ones that have problems logging onto (and staying logged on) the authentication servers. Get rid of the DRM and I would definitely buy a copy the minute it happens.
If they were smart they would do this before the purchase price is 25% of the original release price.

[Oscarkeeper]

signed This is no way to treat honest customers, Ubisoft.

[java`s revenge]

I am against piracy but ubi have to take other steps to avoid that.
Maybe only for starting a game that you have to make a connection to
confirm your legal copy.

So, my answer is signed.

[ceedub]

Signed.

Which is a shame, because I'm otherwise enjoying the game.
It has various shortcomings that are being corrected by the mod community and, hopefully, by future patches.
But there has got to be a better way for Ubisoft to protect their product from piracy.

Cheers
Ceedub

[NefariousKoel]

/signed

Don't think this'll do much but g'luck guys.

[FIREWALL]

Signed. I got a better chance of finding a chicken with lips. :-?

[SabreHawk]

Signed on here too mates, and I might add in talking to a resident of the apartments I work and live at, something really hit me. What about a great many of our war vets, like him are retired and on a fixed income and cant afford and internet connection at all but would love to have this sim and enjoy it. He said he could certainly afford the sim and even get his hands on a computer(and I could help him with that), but a good internet from comcast is out of the question.
And I thought how sad, that a war vet cant have and enjoy this.:cry:

And I wondered, if discrimination could come into play.

[YukonJack_AK]

No matter what you'll never completely stop theft/piracy... accept it, move on, and instead spend the money on actually releasing a game that doesn't have bugs! :-?

~SIGNED~

[arrow]

SIGNED

[mrfisse]

Signed!

[Phantom453]

Signed!!:damn:

[Adam84]

For what it's worth, signed.

[Placoderm]

Ubisoft, WAKE UP! Your loyal paying customer base is unhappy. I will NOT buy AC2, Settlers 7, or ANY future Ubisoft title with this invasive, 24/7 conntection DRM. :down:


SIGNED



(Isn't it interesting that Ubisoft made our first officer...the one we interact with the MOST...a pirate! Talk about odd choices...)

[patterchon]

SIGNED!

[Gilbou]

Signed

Won't buy unless DRM and online requirement is removed.

[Akula]

/signed and /signed again.

to be sure to be sure

/signed

[Barso]

DEFINATELY SIGNED but I think this petition will have about as much clout as a chocolate fireguard and trying to get ubisoft to acknowledge it will be like trying to pull hens teeth.
But you never know,I don't believe it! A pig has just flown by my house.
But then again, this is SUBSIM and the modders of subsim fixed their other silent hunter games.

[HansLanda]

signed.

[stoppro]

signed

[schurem]

signed

[FooFighters]

100% agreed & signed !

[RMN]

Signed.

[clayman]

Signed!

And we thought Starforce was bad! :D

[Exakt]

For those who would like to play SHV while traveling on their laptop and have Ubisoft use a less Draconian DRM at least.

SIGNED

[SabreHawk]

Signed!

And we thought Starforce was bad! :D

Yup and I think we'd all take it back now, gladly.

[meduza]

Signed.

[[ISI]tshock9325]

Signed, I really want to get this game, but not with DRM, I am a long time SH fan, hate to see something like this happen to a wonderful game, and after reading earlier posts, if trenken is still around, go http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa269/theshocktrooper9325/awesome.gif yourself with your pro drm trash

[ironkross]

Signed by a paying customer. If you want to keep this one remove DRM.

[Yak]

For those who would like to play SHV while traveling on their laptop and have Ubisoft use a less Draconian DRM at least.

SIGNED

+1

SIGNED

Honestly, I never gave a rats arse about Starforce or Secure Rom and I never had any issues.

[Kickbum]

I'm in

[Dueydueck]

Signed and double stamped!

[---Dagon---]

Signed !!!

[Chokwok]

SIGNED.
Remove SH5 always online DRM or lose customers!

[stalintc]

SIGNED!

[flamm]

Signed.

[col_Kurtz]

Signed, because DRM kill the game, waste my time.

http://naforum.zapodaj.net/thumbs/62c34daeccc1.jpg (http://naforum.zapodaj.net/62c34daeccc1.jpg.html)

[thyro]

Signed

I won't buy SH5 with online crap attached!

And I don't care either if SH series dies now, my point is my money won't go to UBI while they persist this dictator way... Less one customer for now and spreading the word.

[Eddy Lawson]

signed

[guasifox]

soy nuevo en este foro , y no se hablar ingles , pero estoy de acuerdo con todos vosotros, tengo toda la saga de silent hunter ademas de otros juegos para la playstasion y no compro ninguno mas mientras no quiten el DRM, conmigo han perdido un cliente.

[BlackDeep]

/signed

and if interessted please sign here

petition against Ubis Online-DRm (http://www.petitiononline.com/ew15dl94/petition.html)

[Catfish]

signed ..

gave the sim back after not being able to play for 3 weeks. It was not even 1 of ten times i wanted to play, that it worked.
I may reconsider the whole thing and buy it again when they completely remove the online requirement.
Catfish

[deacon211]

Signed.

Love this series but tired of increasingly hostile DRM schemes. I'm not paying $50 to rent a game. :down:

Deacon

[the_belgian]

SIGNED...:D

[13owman]

Signed

[Sub Marauder]

Online petitions are about as effective as a pig swimming. Holding out on buying the game is the best petition you can sign.

[IanC]

So when is Neal going to print all this out and send it to Ubisoft? :O:

[loerelau]

Signed!

Loerelau

[BamaFan67]

Signed!

I loose my connection if the wind blows to hard

[oradd]

Signed

[Sekure]

Signed.

I will not be purchasing SH5 until they have/offer less intrusive DRM.

[gile]

SIGNED

[General Tso]

Signed.

[louloupenalty]

Signed :salute:

[Takeda Shingen]

Signed

[byron]

signed

[Pteradon]

Signed.

[Feldpost]

signed

[ivank]

Signed.

[SteveW1]

Signed

[siebr00]

I sign too.:rock:

[SubV]

Signed.

[ddiplock]

Signed :D

[afzal]

so

SIGNED

[MMarques]

Signed

[Redlance88]

Bought the game, have a always on connection. can deal with the fact that it wants a stupid constant connection to its server. dislike that it has constant pop up screens that tell me it is saving games n the like ( just put it in the background) and leave me alone. do I think it frustrates and annoys people that bought the game? absolutely. do I think it stops pirates, few if any. If they really wanna do copy protection and use a constant connection, the send out messages to the radio room that changes your mission orders, if you don't have the connection then ya miss out on the juicy convoys. but seriously limit the drm to online play. for off line stuff turn it off, its dumb.

SIGNED !!

[morttheslayer]

Please Consider this signed

I don't think it will change policy fast - but it's a start. The DRM problem extends to many new releases now and I definately won't support this.
I'll keep the (DRM free) games I've got running as long as I can.

ATB - Mort

[Able72]

Consider this signed by me.

I don't think this thread will do any good. I think the only thing that may impact UBI's decision regarding the DRM is a drop in sales or Uncle Sam telling them to change it (anyone remember starforce?).

I'm in favor of financially supporting game developers. That way we have more games. That is why I pay for my games. Not so I can have the game I just bought (I could get that for free someplace on the net) but so that in the future more games will be made.

But this DRM is crap. Its frustrating and invasive to say the least. Get rid of it. It didn't work and the pirates proved they could crack it. They have proven time and time again that no matter what DRM you invest in they will break it and find a way around it. Lets all move on, stop wasting your money investing in new copy protection schemes that don't work and stop penalizing your honest customers with tyrannical DRM because someone else pirates your game.

[jpfx]

signed.
I won't buy this until it is DRM free.

[BULL]

Signed

I will not buy the game with the current DRM in place... I will just continue to play SH3 & SH4. (I bought those legit without UBI needing online DRM in place)

[Iron Budokan]

Signed.

[edu]

Signed, of course!

A customer, a legal gamer can´t be a dog in a leash.. :smug:

[Shoe]

signed

[wetwarev7]

signed

[Kptlt Thomsen]

DRM is crap :down:...consider the petition

Signed:salute:

[WarlordATF]

I said i wouldn't buy it as long as they keep the online connection requirement and i still have not bought it. I have bought 3 or 4 games since SH5 was released and i could have gotten SH5 any of those times but until the DRM is dropped i'll stick with SH4.

SIGNED

[-Pv-]

SIGNED.

I have bought every sub sim there is but V. I'm being disreguarded for my loyalty and honesty.
-Pv-

[Salvadoreno]

signed.

stupidest thing ubi has ever done, along with releasing unfinished games. :rock:

[deathwest]

Signed

I travel alot for my work and internet is not always an option.:damn:

[Moeceefus]

they will drop the drm soon enough, but it wont be on account of a petition or any sort of public outcry i suspect. worth another go though i suppose. :yeah:

[stoppro]

signed

[xxx4Dxxx]

I'm sure ubi is a bunch of "big enough boys and girls" to count their own numbers to figyer out what numbers they wanna hear. BUT... wtf..

signed.

[Urbijan]

signed...there is NO need to make business with a DRM. Its a pain only for the honestly Buyers.
And it is proofed, DRM does not prevent illegal copying. And because some people crack that game, to punish all the other with staying online by gaming, that is just not fair.
Are you guys at UBI not able, to make a game copy protected? Do you have to let pay the honest Buyers for that? That is just poor. No XBOX, Nintendo and other Video games are that ridiculous to do that, for certain reasons. ONE of them, you kill your own Business with such a action. Start thinking, UBI and forget DRM, there are better ways to go, don't you think?

[U-5000]

signed here also NO DRM

[Brag]

Ubi would sell a lot more games without the childish OSP/DRM/Uplay

Signed

[luiggi51]

Signed. Ubi lost another loyal customer... :nope:
But I still enjoy SH III !!!!

[severniae]

As much as I don't particularly oppose the DRM, I do believe that it does hurt sales, and as a subsim fan, I want more sales and many more SH titles to come so...

SIGNED

[Garion]

Signed :down:

Cheers

Garion

[rsslcs]

SIGNED

[TheElitePhoenix]

Signed

[RickC Sniper]

Signed

[Factor]

Signed. Even tho UBI does not give two shatz about this title anymore.

[BigBadVuk]

I tought starforce is bottom.Well DRm is even worst!

SIgned :damn:

[Paajtor]

Signed. Even tho UBI does not give two shatz about this title anymore.
That's precisely the reason I voted....if they don't care anymore, they're more likely to release a no-DRM patch. ;)

[GhengasCon]

Signed....twice if I could

[krashkart]

A one-time online activation should be sufficient. They can still tally up how many actually bought the game, including the folks with limited internet connections. Another bonus would be less money spent on server infrastructure; you'd only need authentication services. Less money spent on servers = more money for game development, more money for development of powerful and less obstructive protection methods, and also more money for prosecuting software pirates.

Signed.

Matt

[navair2]

I bought Settlers 7 just to see the updated graphics and enhanced gameplay...not to mention experience the online DRM, and it really didn't hamper me.

HOWEVER, after hearing about all the bugs, missing features and considering the fact that there are a lot of people out there who might actually want to play without an Internet connection (gasp!) including myself, I voted not to buy SH5...;)

SIGNED.

Dave.

[Spartan]

I get the feeling that lifeblood is being split here for nothing - it is Ubi after all but I'll sign nonetheless. :)

DRM is pure evil dont ever believe otherwise...

[Takao]

Since it is apparent that Ubisoft has already "abandoned" this game, add my name to this list.

Signed