[WIP] Lexington class battlecruiser

[Karle94]

I have been working on the Lexington class for a long time now.
She`s playable with a career based at Pearl.

Here`s a couple of pictures:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/H41961.jpg

This is the 41-43 configuration

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-01-03_031238_984.jpg

and the 43-45 configuration

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2010-01-03_031740_671.jpg

She`s available here:
http://www.filefront.com/15424005/Lexington_V1.5.rar/

[yamatoforever]

IT`S GREAT!!! :yeah:

[Karle94]

I uploaded the Lexington. You can get it in this link.
Old link, check post 1 for the new one. http://www.filefront.com/15301707/LexingtonV1.0.rar

[Celloplayer5]

vry nice. could u maybe make the new carrier version of the lexington?

[Karle94]

My motherboard is broken. When I get a new one I will take a look at this.

[Wolfling04]

Beautiful, quick question though,

Is she compatible with any of the super mods?

[Karle94]

Unfortunetly she`s not.

[Ships-R-Us]

Thanks for your hard work Karle........

[Karle94]

As some of you might have noticed, the ship is very unstable in calm sea. I am making a patch to remove this problem.

[Karle94]

Since my theme for the moment is battlecruisers I decided to finish my remake of the Lexington class. She is now built up to her original specs and lines with the addition of some decent AA capability. Here`s a couple of pics:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-06-02_133950_820.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-06-02_134002_594.jpg

[Gerald]

Nice, :up:

[colonelCJ]

Since my theme for the moment is battlecruisers I decided to finish my remake of the Lexington class. She is now built up to her original specs and lines with the addition of some decent AA capability. Here`s a couple of pics:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-06-02_133950_820.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2011-06-02_134002_594.jpg

dude that is FREAKIN NICE! :salute: :yeah:

[danny60]

Great peice of kit!
Theres a few bugs though,
1. when you sound battle stations the alarm is stuck on ad will not turn off no matter what, although the men stand down from battle stations
2. You can only fire the main guns when the sea becomes rough, Non of the other armaments will fire.
3. the guns (AA, the secondry turrets and the main turrets) fire through the ship, So for example if your shooting at a ship on your stbd side the guns on your port side will fire aswell
4. No smoke out the funnels
5. It also looks a bit plasticy?
Apart from that this ship :rock:

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Just got my SH4 out of storage and fired up and wanted to post what a fine job you've done on these ships. However though the Lexington, N3 battleship, South Dakota and Montana have worked with no problems, the G3 battlecruiser is missing A and C 16" main gun turrets. I'm currently running these ships on vanilla SH4 1.5 and every other ship of yours I've tried works fine, but not the G3. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks:
Captain Rockwell Torry

[Karle94]

Just got my SH4 out of storage and fired up and wanted to post what a fine job you've done on these ships. However though the Lexington, N3 battleship, South Dakota and Montana have worked with no problems, the G3 battlecruiser is missing A and C 16" main gun turrets. I'm currently running these ships on vanilla SH4 1.5 and every other ship of yours I've tried works fine, but not the G3. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks:
Captain Rockwell Torry

Maybe Vanilla is causing the problem. I have absolutely no idea what Vanilla does so I can`t really help you. All my mods are made for either 1.5 only or 1.5 + Operation Monsoon.

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Sorry, Vanilla is a reference when you are running a game without any other mods. What I meant was I am running SH4 1.5 with no other mods active at the time I was testing out your G3 battlecruiser. Hope this explains.

Thanks:
Captain Rockwell Torry

[Karle94]

Sorry, Vanilla is a reference when you are running a game without any other mods. What I meant was I am running SH4 1.5 with no other mods active at the time I was testing out your G3 battlecruiser. Hope this explains.

Thanks:
Captain Rockwell Torry

Try with OM. I get varied results from time to time.

[sidslotm]

Exceptional :up:

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Just to let you know, Karl94, no luck with operation monsoon either. Also
tried Hood, P-class and O-class. Hood no main turrets, O-class only B turret, P-class has turrets but the funnel cap on the aft funnel is offset to starboard. H-39 and H-44 both worked ok, except H-44 main turrets black. Admiral Hipper didn't have any main turrets either, but I wasn't sure if you made this one. Now don't take this as critisism, I'm only pointing out the problems I'm having and hope it might be fixable. I sure couldn't build ships like this and the ones that have worked ok are exceptional models, even the Hood without main guns is a sweet model.

Thanks
Captain Rockwell Torry

[Karle94]

Just to let you know, Karl94, no luck with operation monsoon either. Also
tried Hood, P-class and O-class. Hood no main turrets, O-class only B turret, P-class has turrets but the funnel cap on the aft funnel is offset to starboard. H-39 and H-44 both worked ok, except H-44 main turrets black. Admiral Hipper didn't have any main turrets either, but I wasn't sure if you made this one. Now don't take this as critisism, I'm only pointing out the problems I'm having and hope it might be fixable. I sure couldn't build ships like this and the ones that have worked ok are exceptional models, even the Hood without main guns is a sweet model.

Thanks
Captain Rockwell Torry

Several persons have reported these problems, but I haven`t got these problems. That makes it extra hard for me to find a solution to the problems.

[peabody]

Nice job. I did notice someone mentioned no smoke. The funnels in the sim file are not linked to the funnels (cos1 and cos 2) in the .dat file.

The other thing I noticed is the 5in_Double_base_US guns use the stock guns and only have 250 rounds. The game is so inaccurate in shooting, I find you run out of ammo for these guns very quickly.

Peabody

[Karle94]

Nice job. I did notice someone mentioned no smoke. The funnels in the sim file are not linked to the funnels (cos1 and cos 2) in the .dat file.

The other thing I noticed is the 5in_Double_base_US guns use the stock guns and only have 250 rounds. The game is so inaccurate in shooting, I find you run out of ammo for these guns very quickly.

Peabody

I took the crew coefficiency from my H-39 and applied it to allied vessels. What are the results? Before the crew didn`t spot enemy ships until they were 5000-7000 meters away and couldn`t hit anything at that range. With new coefficiency the crew spots ships at 15000-20000 meters distance and 5 inch rounds hit all around the ships around that range, main arnament is a different story.

[comotoasty]

How can you add extra ammo to AI controled weapons?

[Karle94]

How can you add extra ammo to AI controled weapons?

Open the weaponname.sim with S3D. Find the weapon you want, open the node ammo_storage and change the numbers there to your liking.

[comotoasty]

I tried that, but it didn't seem to work. The only ammunition I am able to increase are the playable guns. All of the AI controled weapons are still running out of ammo quickly.

[Karle94]

I tried that, but it didn't seem to work. The only ammunition I am able to increase are the playable guns. All of the AI controled weapons are still running out of ammo quickly.

How much ammo did you give them?

[comotoasty]

For the Cleveland:
Main 6'' Deck guns: 250
Aux 5'' Deck guns:400
Twin AA guns: 5000

[Karle94]

For the Cleveland:
Main 6'' Deck guns: 250
Aux 5'' Deck guns:400
Twin AA guns: 5000

That explains everything. Put an extra 0 on the first two guns. That should brighten your day.

[comotoasty]

That explains everything. Put an extra 0 on the first two guns. That should brighten your day.

Thanks Karle, but I think its the enemy thats going to get the brightness. :salute:

[noobplayer]

That explains everything. Put an extra 0 on the first two guns. That should brighten your day.

Hmm i changed the reload speed of Sovremenny... but only the playable gun was affected... the AI controlled gun was still the same...

[comotoasty]

Hmm i changed the reload speed of Sovremenny... but only the playable gun was affected... the AI controlled gun was still the same...

I added the extra 0 as Karle suggested, but I still get the same result. The AI controled weapons are out of ammo after just two minor engagements. The main guns only fired about 120 shots before they ran out. I know this because I checked the main gun I can control and it still had 9870 rounds remaining. :cry:

[noobplayer]

I added the extra 0 as Karle suggested, but I still get the same result. The AI controled weapons are out of ammo after just two minor engagements. The main guns only fired about 120 shots before they ran out. I know this because I checked the main gun I can control and it still had 9870 rounds remaining. :cry:

Looks like when we changed the file, only the playable gun was affected...

[chrysanthos]

about the AIcannons i have the same question.....and what weaponsim...i did not find anything in library to change ammo

[USS Drum]

hi i'm new on subsim but when i clicked the link i got file not found you will be redirected to gamefront can some on please help:help:

[Karle94]

hi i'm new on subsim but when i clicked the link i got file not found you will be redirected to gamefront can some on please help:help:

The file has been deleted.

[USS Drum]

The file has been deleted.Ok i have downloaded some more of your mods and i found that the the G3 battlecruiser has missing texures in the guns

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

What happened, Karl94? The Lexington was a great ship. I'm sorry its no longer available. It's a great match up for some War Plan Red scenarios against the G3, or War Plan Orange against the Kii.

Captain Rockwell Torry:cry:

[Karle94]

What happened, Karl94? The Lexington was a great ship. I'm sorry its no longer available. It's a great match up for some War Plan Red scenarios against the G3, or War Plan Orange against the Kii.

Captain Rockwell Torry:cry:

It was a very old mod. If she was still there, the oldest mod available. I am working on a new version. This one has the original lines with the original anraments + extra AA guns.

[Karle94]

A preview of the rebuilt USS Constellation. Instead of basing the superstructure on the SoDak like the rebuilt battleships, I based it on the Iowa with some modifications. The reason for this is cause the SoDak and the old battleships were quite small. The Lex is actually only 5 meters shorter and 1 meter thinner than the Iowa. Therefore the Iowa superstructure, all of it, fits quite nicely on the Lex.

New:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-12-2215-49-47-42.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-12-2215-49-52-26.jpg

Old:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-11-1422-00-07-06.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-11-1422-00-36-06.jpg

[USS Drum]

A preview of the rebuilt USS Constellation. Instead of basing the superstructure on the SoDak like the rebuilt battleships, I based it on the Iowa with some modifications. The reason for this is cause the SoDak and the old battleships were quite small. The Lex is actually only 5 meters shorter and 1 meter thinner than the Iowa. Therefore the Iowa superstructure, all of it, fits quite nicely on the Lex.

New:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-12-2215-49-47-42.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-12-2215-49-52-26.jpg

Old:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-11-1422-00-07-06.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/mm3d2011-11-1422-00-36-06.jpg

Great work as always!!!:up::up: Do you have a release date?

[Karle94]

Great work as always!!!:up::up: Do you have a release date?

No release date yet. I am going to update some of my older mods before finishing any other and/or starting on anything new.

[USS Drum]

No release date yet. I am going to update some of my older mods before finishing any other and/or starting on anything new.

Are you going to re-upload the U-571 mod?

[Karle94]

Are you going to re-upload the U-571 mod?

Updated, yes. It`s actually called USS S-33.

[USS Drum]

Are you ever going to release this?
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-09-2121-51-25-45.jpg

And since I notice you have a lot of ships that where never laid down I recommend this for you:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_class_battleship_%281920%29

[Karle94]

Are you ever going to release this?
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-09-2121-51-25-45.jpg

And since I notice you have a lot of ships that where never laid down I recommend this for you:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_class_battleship_%281920%29

I`ll have to update it, before I release it. About the first SoDak, you mean this one?

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2221-10-51-90.jpg

I`ll have to update that one too.

[USS Drum]

I`ll have to update it, before I release it. About the first SoDak, you mean this one?

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2221-10-51-90.jpg

I`ll have to update that one too.


Yeah that one but you really need to work on the stacks because it looks like you just squished a Mogami stack.:rotfl2: Now I can look forward to a lot of new ships on your Gamefront page. You could also make a refit of both of those.

[USS Drum]

Look how big the IV-2 is I found this image while looking the ship up on Google:
http://www.steelnavy.com/images/2003%20March/Tillman1916SuperiorA126JO4a.jpg

Is that the Lexington in the center?

[Karle94]

Look how big the IV-2 is I found this image while looking the ship up on Google:
http://www.steelnavy.com/images/2003%20March/Tillman1916SuperiorA126JO4a.jpg

Is that the Lexington in the center?

The Tillman Maximum battleship study was designs on battleships that was the maximum size that the Panama canal docks could support. It is indeed the Lexington class in the middle and the Colorado class above

[USS Drum]

Any ideas about making this ship? It has the same caliber guns as the H-44.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Design_A-150.jpg/250px-Design_A-150.jpg

[Karle94]

Any ideas about making this ship? It has the same caliber guns as the H-44.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Design_A-150.jpg/250px-Design_A-150.jpg

It has been made for SH3 as an AI ship. All it takes is a simple conversion. Or I could modify the playable Yamato mod. The A-150 was basicly the Yamato with 6 or 8 20 inch guns, depending on source.

[USS Drum]

It has been made for SH3 as an AI ship. All it takes is a simple conversion. Or I could modify the playable Yamato mod. The A-150 was basicly the Yamato with 6 or 8 20 inch guns, depending on source.

It would of most likely been 6 since I've never seen a source that said 8.

[USS Drum]

Are you going to make these ships AI too, because I would like to make a war plan orange single mission with Kii Vs South Dakota and Lexington Vs Kongo.

[Karle94]

Are you going to make these ships AI too, because I would like to make a war plan orange single mission with Kii Vs South Dakota and Lexington Vs Kongo.

If so, they won`t show up in campaign unless you go into a harbor. You`d have to make single player missions of you want to see them hammer at each other. Also I have redone the SoDak funnel:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2222-50-54-62.jpg

Also I am replacing the aft three tier lattice mast on both the SoDak and Lexington with the late war tower on the Colorado.

[USS Drum]

Hmmmm... wouldn't that make it look unrealistic?

[USS Drum]

Now I'm getting to hate this promotion system.

[USS Drum]

Yes I know I can edit this to make it one post but I really want to get promoted so back to the topic what do you mean by replacing the aft three tier lattice mast can you show me what it is going to look like?

[Karle94]

Yes I know I can edit this to make it one post but I really want to get promoted so back to the topic what do you mean by replacing the aft three tier lattice mast can you show me what it is going to look like?

In her original configuration she would have a hyperboloid lattice mast with a three riered platform on top. Like all American BBs (except the new ones.) The Tennessee and Colorado class had them from the start, while the older ones got them during refit. They recieved tripod mast instead of hyperboloid lattice mast they were original built with. The Maryland had her aft lattice mast removed and replaced with a new platform for FCS and AA guns. The Colorado simply had hers shortened about midway to the large platform. On that platform she had AA guns. For the SoDak and Lexington I am leaning in the Maryland like platform. This picture will demonstrate what I mean:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2301-31-28-31.jpg

[USS Drum]

In her original configuration she would have a hyperboloid lattice mast with a three riered platform on top. Like all American BBs (except the new ones.) The Tennessee and Colorado class had them from the start, while the older ones got them during refit. They recieved tripod mast instead of hyperboloid lattice mast they were original built with. The Maryland had her aft lattice mast removed and replaced with a new platform for FCS and AA guns. The Colorado simply had hers shortened about midway to the large platform. On that platform she had AA guns. For the SoDak and Lexington I am leaning in the Maryland like platform. This picture will demonstrate what I mean:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2301-31-28-31.jpg
You mean for the the early war configuration won't that be kinda unrealistic judging that all the pictures I saw clearly had TWO lattice mast and not one.

[Karle94]

You mean for the the early war configuration won't that be kinda unrealistic judging that all the pictures I saw clearly had TWO lattice mast and not one.

Unrealistic, no. As built, she would have had two lattice masts.

Here is the Maryland with her mast removed:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/n60000/n65057.jpg

Here`s the Colorado with her shortened mast:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/ref/aamr/images/aamr_bb46_d2.jpg

[USS Drum]

What I'm asking is there going to be a version with two latice mast?

[Karle94]

What I'm asking is there going to be a version with two latice mast?

Nope.

[USS Drum]

Nope.

:wah::wah::wah::wah:Those where pics of the Colorado and Maryland AFTER the refit before it the had two mast.
So if the Lexington and South Dakota where build they would have had 2 mast.

[Karle94]

:wah::wah::wah::wah:Those where pics of the Colorado and Maryland AFTER the refit before it the had two mast.
So if the Lexington and South Dakota where build they would have had 2 mast.

The SoDak and Lexington would have been built with two lattice masts. But they would have been removed and replaced, or shortened like the aft masts on the Colorado and Maryland in 42-43.

The same happened to the Pennsylvania:
http://www.usmilitaryart.com/BB-38_PA_1943.jpg

[USS Drum]

Well you should do it with the South Dakota but not the Lexington since she gets a full blown total refit in 43'.

[Karle94]

Well you should do it with the South Dakota but not the Lexington since she gets a full blown total refit in 43'.

One of them gets rebuilt like the Tennessee, California and West Virginia. The other two gets refits like the Pennsylvania, Colorado and Maryland.

[USS Drum]

One of them gets rebuilt like the Tennessee, California and West Virginia. The other two gets refits like the Pennsylvania, Colorado and Maryland.

So let's say I start a career in 41' with a Lexington class how many masts will I get?

[Karle94]

So let's say I start a career in 41' with a Lexington class how many masts will I get?

One and a half.

[USS Drum]

So that answers my question and now that I think of it the Lex and South Dakota would have most likely been refited before Pearl harbor because they would hav been the pride of the American fleet, right? but I have a few more simple questions:

1. Will these be released by Christmas

2. After these can you make a playable Pennsylvania and possibly a playable New York?

3. Well not really a question but, MERRY CHRISTMAS:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Party:

[Karle94]

So that answers my question but I have a few more simple questions:

1. Will these be released by Christmas

2. After these can you make a playable Pennsylvania and possibly a playable New York?

3. Well not really a question but, MERRY CHRISTMAS:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Party:

1. Possibly
2. The Pennsylvania, yes. New York, maybe.
3. It`s a little early for that.

[USS Drum]

Well than with that done I wish you luck.:yeah::up::up:

[USS Drum]

Deleted.

[FightingSteel1]

So that answers my question and now that I think of it the Lex and South Dakota would have most likely been refited before Pearl harbor because they would hav been the pride of the American fleet, right?



I know you really like the Lexington, but probably not. The older BBs were not updated by that time, so why would they have redone their newest ships (had they existed)? If we let those vessels get that behind technology wise, than all of them would have been in similar shape.

The Hood was the pride of the Royal Navy, the same general age, much more famous and even it wasn't up to standard for the war.

[USS Drum]

I know you really like the Lexington, but probably not. The older BBs were not updated by that time, so why would they have redone their newest ships (had they existed)? If we let those vessels get that behind technology wise, than all of them would have been in similar shape.

The Hood was the pride of the Royal Navy, the same general age, much more famous and even it wasn't up to standard for the war.

Actually the US navy was having a re-fitting program going on at the time example:
Pennsylvania before:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/USS_Pennsylvania_1925_SLV_Green.jpg/220px-USS_Pennsylvania_1925_SLV_Green.jpg
Pennsylvania after:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOL5MejixSpyMKs1yxkUlC0XUSf2Q87 QnMvHv49h8NR_REQRHWnQ

[Karle94]

Actually the US navy was having a re-fitting program going on at the time example:
Pennsylvania before:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/USS_Pennsylvania_1925_SLV_Green.jpg/220px-USS_Pennsylvania_1925_SLV_Green.jpg
Pennsylvania after:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOL5MejixSpyMKs1yxkUlC0XUSf2Q87 QnMvHv49h8NR_REQRHWnQ

All of the American ships from Nevada to New Mexico recieved a refit from 1927-1931. New superstructuere, tripod masts with three tiered GFC platform instead of hyperboloid lattice cage masts, removal of some of the casemate guns, increase in elevation of the guns from 15-30 degrees, anti-torpedo bulges and extra AA guns.

[Karle94]

Here`s the USS Constitution and USS United States:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-32-28-59.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-32-36-60.jpg

USS Constellation 1943 rebuild:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-25-18-79.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-25-06-25.jpg

[USS Drum]

Here`s the USS Constitution and USS United States:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-32-28-59.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/sh42011-12-2315-32-36-60.jpg




Don't you think 1941 would be a little early for the double 5 inch turrets because if I remember correctly none of the ships at Pearl had them. Although you could try this I remember in the American sub career your sub would eventually get a refit in 42' that said the aft fairwater was removed so you could possibly do the refits that way?

[USS Drum]

Well here's what Wiki says the Lexington's armament would be in 41' to mid 42' It clearly does not state Double 5 inch turrets



4 × 2 - 16-inch (406 mm)/50 cal guns
14 × 1 - 6-inch (152 mm)/53 cal
4 × 1 - 3-inch (76 mm)/50 cal anti-aircraft guns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aircraft_gun)
8 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_tube), 4 submerged


This is how the South Dakota would have probably looked in 41'
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Model_of_South_Dakota_class_battleship.jpg/800px-Model_of_South_Dakota_class_battleship.jpg

[Karle94]

Well here's what Wiki says the Lexington's armament would be in 41' to mid 42' It clearly does not state Double 5 inch turrets



4 × 2 - 16-inch (406 mm)/50 cal guns
14 × 1 - 6-inch (152 mm)/53 cal
4 × 1 - 3-inch (76 mm)/50 cal anti-aircraft guns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aircraft_gun)
8 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_tube), 4 submerged

This is how the South Dakota would have probably looked in 41'
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Model_of_South_Dakota_class_battleship.jpg/800px-Model_of_South_Dakota_class_battleship.jpg

That`s because they were never built to recieve 5"/38s in a 42 refit. Wikipedia doesn`t say in that bar that the Pennsylvania had 16 5"/38s, but in the 1942 section is says that the Pennsylvania recieved 5"/38s, replacing the 5"/51s. That`s the South Dakota as they would have looked like when completed in 1923-1924.

[USS Drum]

That`s because they were never built to recieve 5"/38s in a 42 refit. Wikipedia doesn`t say in that bar that the Pennsylvania had 16 5"/38s, but in the 1942 section is says that the Pennsylvania recieved 5"/38s, replacing the 5"/51s. That`s the South Dakota as they would have looked like when completed in 1923-1924.

Wow than that must be a fast refit aft cage mast removed and twin 5 inch guns added in just a couple days after Pearl.:eek::eek:

[Karle94]

Wow than that must be a fast refit aft cage mast removed and twin 5 inch guns added in just a couple days after Pearl.:eek::eek:

It took the grease monkeys at Pearl three days to do three months work on the Yorktown after she was bombed to pieces in the battle of coral sea.

[USS Drum]

It took the grease monkeys at Pearl three days to do three months work on the Yorktown after she was bombed to pieces in the battle of coral sea.

Actually all they would need was super glue and duct tape.

[Karle94]

Actually all they would need was super glue and duct tape.

That they used when she was bombed and torpedoed again at the battle of Midway.

[USS Drum]

So can you show me some pics of the Tillman design and South Dakota?

[Karle94]

So can you show me some pics of the Tillman design and South Dakota?

There will only be minor changes to the Tillman IV-2 3D model. I have already posted a picture of the definet South Dakota. I am pondering of the idea of adding 5"/38s to her as well.

[USS Drum]

Can you post some better screenshots of the USS S-33 because the ones on it's thread weren't that good.

[Karle94]

Can you post some better screenshots of the USS S-33 because the ones on it's thread weren't that good.

I don`t have any better pictures and the S-33 is way down my worklist.

[USS Drum]

Hey I have some names for the South Dakota (yes they are copied and pasted):


BB-49: South Dakota (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-50: Indiana (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-51: Montana (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-m/bb51.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-52: North Carolina (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-n/bb52.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-53: Iowa (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-54: Massachusetts (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)

[Karle94]

Hey I have some names for the South Dakota (yes they are copied and pasted):


BB-49: South Dakota (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-50: Indiana (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-51: Montana (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-m/bb51.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-52: North Carolina (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-n/bb52.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-53: Iowa (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)
BB-54: Massachusetts (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/usnshtp/bb/bb49cl.htm) (cancelled 1922)


Did that work many months ago.

[USS Drum]

Are you going to refurbish your HMS Hood and refit because I've noticed MANY bugs in it are you also going to do some work on your ships of the Z-plan because I really want to play as that awesome Admiral Hipper you have if not can you tell me how to make the gun textures not black. I've done the same thing with the H-44 but it seems that the Admiral Hipper's cannons are not linked to a AO map only the playable one is.

[Karle94]

I have a new version of the Hood with a remade refit. I might update the Hipper, H-39 and H-44. All of these ships could need a little updating, especially in guns and radars. In the meantime, here`s a video of the SoDak in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJKO9eslqA&feature=plcp&context=C337f848UDOEgsToPDskK-rkR7uybRfQ1NRWOCXJtY

[USS Drum]

Will these be ready for release by tomorrow? Also one of the Tillman battleships would be called USS Rhode Island.

[Karle94]

Will these be ready for release by tomorrow? Also one of the Tillman battleships would be called USS Rhode Island.

I have a list for the five most likely names for the Tillman. For me, tomorrow is only 20 minutes away.

[USS Drum]

:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Party:MERRY CHRISTMAS Karle94!:Kaleun_Party::Kaleun_Cheers:

[Captain_Rockwell_Torry]

Love that new South Dakota! She really looks great. I play Matrix games War Plan Orange, and have all these ships in the game. I even made a follow on class to the Lexington's called the Port Royal class with a single funnel like the South Dakota and four triple 16" 50's for main armament. Once again Karl94 you've done a great job. If I can figure out how to show a picture out here, I'll post the picture of the Port Royal from WPO.

Regards:
Captain Rockwell Torry

[Karle94]

:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Party:MERRY CHRISTMAS Karle94!:Kaleun_Party::Kaleun_Cheers:

Merry christmas!

Love that new South Dakota! She really looks great. I play Matrix games War Plan Orange, and have all these ships in the game. I even made a follow on class to the Lexington's called the Port Royal class with a single funnel like the South Dakota and four triple 16" 50's for main armament. Once again Karl94 you've done a great job. If I can figure out how to show a picture out here, I'll post the picture of the Port Royal from WPO.

Regards:
Captain Rockwell Torry

Something like the one on this page? http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Misc/NeverWeres/united.htm

[USS Drum]

Any ideas about when your going to release them?

[USS Drum]

I bought something off the Internet a while ago and it was plans of a Lexington class battlecruiser and it came today I can post some pics if you want.

[Karle94]

I bought something off the Internet a while ago and it was plans of a Lexington class battlecruiser and it came today I can post some pics if you want.

A few extra reference pictures would´t hurt.

[USS Drum]

Here are the pics:
Armament:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/002.jpg?t=1324843451
Names and length:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/001.jpg?t=1324843491
Whole thing:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/003.jpg?t=1324843532
(note that to get that shot I had to stand on the couch)

[Karle94]

Here are the pics:
Armament:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/002.jpg?t=1324843451
Names and length:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/001.jpg?t=1324843491
Whole thing:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/003.jpg?t=1324843532
(note that to get that shot I had to stand on the couch)

Try taking pictures of parts of the ships instead of the whole ship. That way I can concentrate on one area at a time.

[USS Drum]

I don't really think you need any pictures because you'v done a OUTSTANDING job on these ships but could you release the Lex in two parts one for pre-war with no double 5 inchers and two cage masts and one for the one with 1 and a half masts with double 5 inch turrets?

[USS Drum]

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[USS Drum]

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[USS Drum]

Any progress?

[FightingSteel1]

Any progress?

Hopefully this doesn't come off as being too rude, but I don't think you have to inquire every single day, or even multiple times a day, about what is going on with this mod. Didn't he just communicate with you a few days ago? Hasn't he shown you screenshots of things?

It's possible the guy has other things to do you know. Be patient.

[USS Drum]

Well Karle here are the pics you wanted:
Bow:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/002-1.jpg?t=1325140988
Mid Section:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/001-1.jpg?t=1325141016
Stern:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/003-1.jpg?t=1325141057
Bow from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/007.jpg?t=1325141104
Mid from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/006.jpg?t=1325141143
Stern from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/005.jpg?t=1325141196
Bow:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/008.jpg?t=1325141239
Props:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/004.jpg?t=1325141278

[Karle94]

Well Karle here are the pics you wanted:
Bow:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/002-1.jpg?t=1325140988
Mid Section:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/001-1.jpg?t=1325141016
Stern:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/003-1.jpg?t=1325141057
Bow from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/007.jpg?t=1325141104
Mid from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/006.jpg?t=1325141143
Stern from above:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/005.jpg?t=1325141196
Bow:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/008.jpg?t=1325141239
Props:
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z480/silenthunter2/004.jpg?t=1325141278

Thanks.

[USS Drum]

Your welcome, but what's the point of that 3D pack you uploaded?

[Chrisi078]

bitte mit einer schönen Brücke und Ruderhaus,und ein guten schardensystem

[USS Drum]

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[USS Drum]

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[Sailor Steve]

Or maybe he's grown tired of giving daily updates on demand.

[FightingSteel1]

Hopefully this doesn't come off as being too rude, but I don't think you have to inquire every single day, or even multiple times a day, about what is going on with this mod. Didn't he just communicate with you a few days ago? Hasn't he shown you screenshots of things?

It's possible the guy has other things to do you know. Be patient.

Or maybe he's grown tired of giving daily updates on demand.

So my earlier advice was not heeded?