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FADM Gryphon
12-26-09, 09:09 PM
I my old computer put up a great fight but the motherboard gave up the ghost and is now dead so I bought a new pc which has windows 7 and I am unsure if SH4 will run on it.

Webster
12-26-09, 09:41 PM
yes, but im not sure if it has the same directory issues that vista had


someone with win 7 will come by and say for sure

Task Force
12-26-09, 09:48 PM
Will install in a bit.... , W7 64 bit here.:up:

Task Force
12-26-09, 10:22 PM
Ok, its installing fine... I find its easyer to just install stuff into a new folder (I install games to c\games\(Game name)

Webster
12-26-09, 11:55 PM
Ok, its installing fine... I find its easyer to just install stuff into a new folder (I install games to c\games\(Game name)

did you try letting it go to the default programs directory or did you tell it what to do

im very curious if it shares that vista tempermental thing with accessing games

Task Force
12-27-09, 12:01 AM
No, I install all my games In in a folder for just games...

But it still found its directory before I changed it...

FADM Gryphon
12-27-09, 02:52 AM
I have not installed it yet the reason for the question was to see if there where any know issues before I installed it.

skwasjer
12-27-09, 06:40 AM
It works fine. Just install outside of default "Program Files"-directory to make sure you won't run into problems with virtualization/permissions, ie.:

C:\Games\Silent Hunter 4

Webster
12-27-09, 10:14 AM
It works fine. Just install outside of default "Program Files"-directory to make sure you won't run into problems with virtualization/permissions, ie.:

C:\Games\Silent Hunter 4

so Windows 7 does have the same "permissions" issues as vista?


can anyone give me a definate and confirmed yes or no on that?

MadDog09
12-27-09, 11:45 AM
Works fine with Win 7 x64. No problems.

skwasjer
12-27-09, 12:41 PM
Didn't I just give you confirmation?
:hmmm:

Webster
12-27-09, 05:10 PM
Didn't I just give you confirmation?
:hmmm:

i just wanted to be certain i understood it correctly so thats why i asked the question

if i am to tell others you definately cannot install the game in your windows 7 programs directory then i want to be sure i know what im talking about is accurate

skwasjer
12-27-09, 05:52 PM
You can install it to Program Files, but it is not recommended due to similar security restrictions as Vista. Windows 7 is a little less strict as Vista (f.ex. UAC) but has the same features that prevent overwriting key system/program files. Thus, when installing mods (JSGME) and using mod tools (like S3D) you will have similar problems... (the need to run 'elevated'). To circumvent that, installation outside of ProgFiles is absolutely a must. Vanilla it works perfectly fine though in ProgFiles...

Webster
12-27-09, 11:35 PM
You can install it to Program Files, but it is not recommended due to similar security restrictions as Vista. Windows 7 is a little less strict as Vista (f.ex. UAC) but has the same features that prevent overwriting key system/program files. Thus, when installing mods (JSGME) and using mod tools (like S3D) you will have similar problems... (the need to run 'elevated'). To circumvent that, installation outside of ProgFiles is absolutely a must. Vanilla it works perfectly fine though in ProgFiles...

thank you very much for the info sir :salute:

jimbob
12-28-09, 12:03 AM
It works fine. Just install outside of default "Program Files"-directory to make sure you won't run into problems with virtualization/permissions, ie.:

C:\Games\Silent Hunter 4



thank you very much for the info sir :salute:

Ditto, thanks a punch for the info regarding Win7.

I got SH4 on my Visva-laptop now since my Xp-pc went tits up,
need a new mobo for it. I may want to upgrade it to Win7 before
SH7 comes about, this laptop that is. Not gonna stop using XP.

Im running everything out of Program Files.
Never install anything to default folder..
M$ quite effectively killed the use of that folder.

Too much automation is too much too much automation.

Webster
12-28-09, 12:37 AM
Ditto, thanks a punch for the info regarding Win7.

I may want to upgrade it to Win7 before
SH7 comes about, this laptop that is. Not gonna stop using XP.



just a heads up on a PITA issue with windows 7 is you can no longer change how files are arranged, only microsoft decides how that is done :down:

i havent installed windows 7 yet but my sister told me windows 7 takes away your ability to sort files by name, type, format or whatever so things are arranged the way microsoft wants them and thats it, YOU dont get to decide how to arrange your own files :06:

skwasjer
12-28-09, 07:43 AM
That's not true, you can sort files anyway you want. Probably she has a grouped view active or something.

Webster
12-28-09, 02:41 PM
That's not true, you can sort files anyway you want. Probably she has a grouped view active or something.


here is the info that says it is true:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614146

its called free file arrangement

skwasjer
12-28-09, 08:40 PM
Still, this quote:

i havent installed windows 7 yet but my sister told me windows 7 takes away your ability to sort files by name, type, format or whatever so things are arranged the way microsoft wants them and thats it, YOU dont get to decide how to arrange your own files
is not true. You can sort in dozens of ways, using grouping etc. MS does not decide how you display your files/items, you still choose yourself and all the sort features you mentioned still are available.

The feature you talk about is that Auto Arrange is no longer an option, it is on by default and you can't change that (although I'm guessing it probably is still available through a registry hack). But I don't miss it, in fact, I cursed it as of Win95... The fact that every single folder I would traverse would look differently is completely retarded (IMO ;)). I want my files in an ordered list, simple, with the exception of video's and photo's. They can have thumbs... but still be sorted by name

AOTD_MadMax
12-29-09, 03:28 AM
Works fine with Win 7 x64. No problems.

Same to me !

Greets

Maddy

TopcatWA
12-29-09, 06:07 AM
I have been running SHIV on Windows7 Ultimate 64-Bit with no problems.
Have got it installed on a seperate hard drive from the O/S hard drive as a pre-installed setup from my previous O/S WinXP 64-Bit. so I didn't have
to re-install on the new system.

Cheers

Webster
12-29-09, 12:05 PM
The feature you talk about is that Auto Arrange is no longer an option, it is on by default and you can't change that (although I'm guessing it probably is still available through a registry hack). But I don't miss it, in fact, I cursed it as of Win95... The fact that every single folder I would traverse would look differently is completely retarded (IMO ;)). I want my files in an ordered list, simple, with the exception of video's and photo's. They can have thumbs... but still be sorted by name

while the wording i used might not be correct you said it yourself that it IS true that windows 7 takes away your freedom to arrange files the way I want them to be.

just because you like it that way doesnt mean its a "good thing" that everyone else is forced into going along with microsofts idea of how files should be arranged

i found the ability to arrange files differently in ways that made more sense to me is very usefull to me and i find not being able to do this will definately be a very very big negative. having every file look different is of no concern to me as long as what im looking for in that file is easier on me to find or use what i want.

skwasjer
12-29-09, 03:19 PM
I can understand if you are used to it it is annoying to see it go. But this is with many things, new things, changes, scare people. S3D scared people too, ppl were so used to hexeditors and TT... But if I look today, it's a whole different story... :D

But still, it's not MS vs the world... They took out a feature that is more confusing than it is logical to the common user, and I thing it's wise they did. I've seen my share of "wtf, where is that folder/item" just to point the user to the fact that the item is placed outside the view. Let's say I remove a specific feature from S3D, as my judgement (and others) tells me it better is left out than in, some people will also complain. Perhaps I am right, perhaps I am not, but as the developer it's still my call. And you will just have to get used to it in the long run. And perhaps, realize afterwards, that it was a good thing... or not... whatever ;)

FADM Gryphon
01-01-10, 07:04 PM
Getting a Validation error so while waiting on Ubisoft support I am going to play SHIII