Log in

View Full Version : Schnelltauchback?


kurfürst
12-09-09, 03:56 PM
Hello Kaleuns,

I was wondering if there is a talented Modder out there who could rework the hull of a type IX C/40 Uboat adding a "Schnelltauchback" to it.

The "Schnelltauchback" was a modification which enabled those larger boats to dive faster and, while submerged, stay on course easier.

Here are some pictures:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/9c40-04.jpg
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/UberTorpedo/u249_surrender_04.jpg
http://g.imagehost.org/0581/Schnelltauchback.jpg

and a technical drawing:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/9c40-03.jpg

I don´t have any idea how to modifiy the existing hull in SH III.
I would be happy if there is somebody out there who is able to do this modification, and would honour his (or her) work with a Gift Certificate from Amazon, worth 75€. The finished model will be available to the Subsim community for free, fully credited to the Modder. If somebody is interested reworking the original hull, please drop me a PM. I´ll provide you with all necessary technical drawings and photo material.

Beste Grüße, Kurfürst

Rapt0r56
12-09-09, 04:40 PM
Sounds interesting, i never saw a Picture of this Type.:o
Some Modders make the VIID playable with his mine bunk on the deck, or the Type XXIII for GWX 3.0. So it should be possible to do this. But i'm not a 3D Modder, only fixes some existing with S3D.
Hope someone get this to run, sound very nice.:ping:

[Edit]: Ich frage mich grad warum ich nicht in Deutsch geschrieben habe, ich hoffe du verstehst es auch in Englisch. :DL

gmuno
12-10-09, 02:49 AM
Der Hacken ist der, daß diese Bugform durch das Weglassen der Oberdeck-Torpedos erreicht wurde. In wie weit das im Spiel implementiert werden kann, ist die große Frage. Ist ne Sache für die Großmodder, ein Upgrade so ab Ende '43, welches die Änderung der Bugform sowie die Reduktion der Torpedos bewirkt.

The problem is, that this bowtype was reached by the reduction of the external torpedoes. How far it can be implemented in the game is a thing for the modders. An upgrade around end '43 which reduces the external torpedoes to nil and changes the bowtype.

Magic1111
12-10-09, 02:59 AM
Moin zusammen !

@ kurfürst: Erstmal muss ich sagen, sehr interessanter Vorschlag ! Gefällt mir !

@ All: Ein weiterer Haken ist dabei, dass es nicht möglich ist (Hardcoded), in SH3 zusätzliche U-Boote zu implementieren. Es müsste also ein anderes dafür weggelassen werden. Was natürlich umfangreiche Anpassungen an sämtlichen Dateien zur Folge hat. Nur mal so als Denkanstoß !

Viele Grüße,
Magic

Rapt0r56
12-10-09, 08:09 AM
@ All: Ein weiterer Haken ist dabei, dass es nicht möglich ist (Hardcoded), in SH3 zusätzliche U-Boote zu implementieren. Es müsste also ein anderes dafür weggelassen werden. Was natürlich umfangreiche Anpassungen an sämtlichen Dateien zur Folge hat. Nur mal so als Denkanstoß !Richtig, da Ubi das Sdk nicht rausrückt:dead:, müsste anstellen dessen ein anderer Boots Typ ersetzt werden, man könnte eventuell direkt das IX C/40 Boot dafür benutzen, da die IXC Boote mit dem C/40 identisch sind meines erachtens.
Von der Optik her zumindest, ich bin mir sicher dass aber spätestens bei den Super Mods wie WAC oder GWX änderungen an der Physik des Bootes vorgenommen wurden.:hmmm:
Aber das wäre ja nicht das Problem, man müsste ersteinmal damit anfangen die entsprechenden Teile eines IXC/40 Bootes am Bug zu entfernen, bessere tauchphysik oder weniger Torpedos kommen zuletzt.

Magic1111
12-10-09, 08:45 AM
Von der Optik her zumindest, ich bin mir sicher dass aber spätestens bei den Super Mods wie WAC oder GWX änderungen an der Physik des Bootes vorgenommen wurden.:hmmm:
Aber das w#re ja nicht das Problem, man müsste ersteinmal damit anfangen die entsprechenden Teile eines IXC/40 Bootes am Bug zu entfernen, bessere tauchphysik oder weniger Torpedos kommen zuletzt.

Richtig, von der Optik her sind sie gleich, es sind bei den Groß-MODs Änderungen vorgenommen worden (Stichpunkte Reichweite und Tauchtiefe), dass kann ich definitiv bestätigen. Was auch noch evtl. anders sein kann ist, dass man vielleicht beim IXC/40 im Gegensatz zum IXC einen anderen Turm auswählen kann, dieses weiß ich aber nicht genau.

Viele Grüße,
Magic

kurfürst
12-10-09, 08:59 AM
Hallo,

am Turm des IX C/40 habe ich mich schon "ausgelassen"; ich habe z.B die Flakschutzbügel, Munitionsbehälter, Zuluftrohr für den Schnorchel etc. geändert bzw. ergänzt.Ich werde heute abend mal ein paar Bilder hochladen!

Hello,

I´ve spend quite some work on the connig tower, changing the "Flakschutzbügel", ammunition-cannisters, etc.
I´ll post some pictures later!

kurfürst
12-10-09, 01:15 PM
Hallo,

hier einige Bilder von den Änderungen bzw. Ergänzungen am Turm, ist noch WIP:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/neu-1-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/neu-2-1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/neu-2.jpg

und das Original:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/39.jpg

Die Screens wurden in SH IV gemacht, die Modifikationen funktionieren aber auch in SH III. Wäre schön, wenn mir Jemand bei der Schnelltauchback helfen könnte!

Here are some screens of my recent modifications of the conning tower, still WIP. The pics had been made in SH IV, but the model works fine in SH III, too. Would appreciate it very much if somebody could help me with the "Schnelltauchback"!

Magic1111
12-10-09, 01:31 PM
Moin kurfürst !

Leider kann ich Dir zwar wg. nichtvorhandener Kenntnisse in dieser Richtung nicht helfen, aber die Bilder sehen ja mal richtig gut aus :D! Respekt ! :up:

Viele Grüße,
Magic

kurfürst
12-10-09, 01:53 PM
Moin kurfürst !

Leider kann ich Dir zwar wg. nichtvorhandener Kenntnisse in dieser Richtung nicht helfen, aber die Bilder sehen ja mal richtig gut aus :D! Respekt ! :up:

Viele Grüße,
Magic

Hallo Magic1111,

vielen Dank für die Blumen! :D
Bin seit einem Jahr "am Basteln". Den Rest bekomme ich mit ein wenig Hilfe auch noch hin!


Thanks for your kind words! Been working on this for a year now.
I´m sure to finish it, with a little help from others!

Magic1111
12-10-09, 02:54 PM
Hallo Magic1111,

vielen Dank für die Blumen! :D
Bin seit einem Jahr "am Basteln". Den Rest bekomme ich mit ein wenig Hilfe auch noch hin!


Thanks for your kind words! Been working on this for a year now.
I´m sure to finish it, with a little help from others!


Hi !

Ja, dass schaffst Du schon ! Du kannst ja über die Fortschritte immer mal wieder hier berichten, interessiert mich sehr !

Viele Grüße,
Magic

U-48Kriegsmarine
12-10-09, 05:08 PM
Is that what I think it is the thise screenshots - SH$ Crew!!! :O

Simply amazing!

(sorry if I missed somthin', I don't speak german)

U-48KM

Rapt0r56
12-10-09, 05:32 PM
Sind wirklich tolle Bilder, gute Arbeit kurfürst. :yep:

Madox58
12-11-09, 11:28 AM
Which Sub Hull would you like modified?
I need a break from my current Project.

kurfürst
12-11-09, 12:02 PM
Hello Privateer,

it´s the hull of the 9c.

Beste Grüße, Kurfürst

Madox58
12-11-09, 12:08 PM
Good.
I started on the 9C last nite.
:up:

Rapt0r56
12-11-09, 12:10 PM
Good.
I started on the 9C last nite.
:up:
Does you start the modding on the IXC 'Schnelltauchback'? :o

Madox58
12-11-09, 12:13 PM
Yes.
I have a bunch of pictures of this modification.
And it looks easy enuff to do.
:cool:

flakmonkey
12-11-09, 12:14 PM
Just thought id chime in and say this was done some time ago as a standalone mod. Although i cant find the link anymore, somebody modified the IXc model, i tried it out at the time and it looked pretty good although it was only an eye candy mod and had no effect on the subs dive times.

Rapt0r56
12-11-09, 12:17 PM
Yes.
I have a bunch of pictures of this modification.
And it looks easy enuff to do.
:cool:Simply amazing Privateer. :ping:
http://www.gifarchiv.net/grafiken/gifs/verkehr/uboote/uboot01.gif

kurfürst
12-11-09, 12:23 PM
Great news Privateer!
I´ve got a technical drawing of the "schnelltauchback".
Let me know if you need it!

Kurfürst

kurfürst
12-11-09, 12:58 PM
Here are two drawings of the type IX C/40, one "Generalplan" and a detailed drawing of the "Schnelltauchback", the modification of the hull:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/IXC40-Generalplan.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/arnd278/Schnelltauchback.jpg

Thanks for You help Privateer!! :yeah:

Magic1111
12-11-09, 03:23 PM
Yes.
I have a bunch of pictures of this modification.
And it looks easy enuff to do.
:cool:

Hi !

Wow, very, very good news ! :rock:

Thank you that you want to do that! :up:

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

Empty B
12-13-09, 06:13 PM
What was the IXC/40 "Schnelltauchback" diving time?
Similar to the IXB?
Can I suggest to make a mod where increase the range of the type IXB, reduce torpedo loadout, and with this hull and tower?
This way it would be like the IXC/40, with less diving time.

kurfürst
12-14-09, 02:14 AM
What was the IXC/40 "Schnelltauchback" diving time?
Similar to the IXB?
Can I suggest to make a mod where increase the range of the type IXB, reduce torpedo loadout, and with this hull and tower?
This way it would be like the IXC/40, with less diving time.


This modification shortened the crash dive time for 10- 15 seconds. Not much, but at the late stage of the war often the difference between being killed or getting away. Another positive effect was that those boats stayed on course and on periscope depth a lot better than those without the modification. This made travelling long distances submerged, using the "Schnorchel", possible. This is the reason why many of the U-boats which operated as the "Gruppe Seewolf" in US and Canadian waters in 1944/ 1945 had the "Schnelltauchback"; boats like U-805, U-858, U-190 and U-1232.

Rapt0r56
12-14-09, 11:44 AM
This modification shortened the crash dive time for 10- 15 seconds. Not much, but at the late stage of the war often the difference between being killed or getting away.
Richtig, gerade in den endzeiten des krieges sprich 44-45 gingen mehr Boote aufgrund von luftangriffen verloren als man jemals gedacht hätte, da sind 10-15 sekunden schon eine menge, gerade bei den doch sehr großen und schwerfälligen 9er booten.

Myxale
12-14-09, 04:20 PM
Looks really good!

I love the idea. Maybe making this an SH3 Commander Option ( just like Cobalts VIIC ) since we can't add subs.

But the Schnelltauch-Back looks really interesting :yeah:

nikbear
12-14-09, 06:42 PM
Looks really good!

I love the idea. Maybe making this an SH3 Commander Option ( just like Cobalts VIIC ) since we can't add subs.

But the Schnelltauch-Back looks really interesting :yeah:

That would be a great idea:03: Love the look of this modification:up:

Madox58
12-15-09, 10:46 AM
Here's a few shots from this weekends work.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Saturday_Test_1.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sunday_Test_1.jpg

And the "other" project.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Bathurst_1.jpg

:cool:

kurfürst
12-15-09, 12:29 PM
:woot:Wow! Wow! Wow! :woot:

"Gute Männer muss man eben haben!"

Privateer, that looks perfect! Great great work!
Can´t wait to get the type IX C/40 sailing!
Thank you so much! :yeah:

Kurfürst

kurfürst
12-15-09, 12:30 PM
What is the other boat you´re working on?

Looks a bit like a Minesweeper to me!

Kurfürst

Rapt0r56
12-15-09, 01:23 PM
:woot:Wow! Wow! Wow! :woot:

"Gute Männer muss man eben haben!"I only can agree with this, it looks awesome.:yeah:

nikbear
12-15-09, 01:24 PM
Now that is very cool! WOW :o Excellent work :salute::salute::salute:

Magic1111
12-15-09, 04:32 PM
Hi privateer !

This looks absolutely fantastic ! Wow, :o perfect work ! :up:

Best regards,
Magic

Myxale
12-16-09, 03:48 PM
I'm part of this community for some time now, and I still get surprised how cool the people here are. Not to mention talented!

Way to Privateer! :rock:

U-48Kriegsmarine
12-17-09, 02:27 PM
Great job, but what about the other stuff...

Like not having external torps, or increasing diving time. or for the time being is this simply cosmetic.

If this has already been answered, I don't know german. (its on my list!)

Anyway, seriously, Good Work!! :rock:

kurfürst
12-18-09, 01:01 PM
Great job, but what about the other stuff...

Like not having external torps, or increasing diving time. or for the time being is this simply cosmetic.

If this has already been answered, I don't know german. (its on my list!)

Anyway, seriously, Good Work!! :rock:

Hi U-48,

it hadn´t been answered yet; I guess that only Privateer can answer your question as he´s working on the Mod.

Beste Grüsse from bloody cold and snowy Germany,

Kurfürst

Empty B
12-18-09, 07:16 PM
I'm not an expert.
But I think that external torpedos can be changed modifiying the file Basic.cfg.
About diving time, I'm not sure if it is possible to change it.
If it is hardcoded, it is possible to use the IXB , with Schnelltauchback.
It has (at least) 5 seconds less for diving time.
But in this case it will be necessary to change the surface speed, submerged speed and range in the file NSS_Uboat9b.sim to meet the IXC/40 performances.
And the Basic.cfg for the equipment.
So once this mod is enabled the IXB will become a IXC/40 Schnelltauchback.
Well, it is just an idea.

Madox58
12-25-09, 04:03 PM
It's nearly complete.
Here's the newest shots.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_6.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_5.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_4.jpghttp://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_3.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_2.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_1.jpg

Just a bit more work on the UV stuff.
The reflects have been done also.
Along with an adjusted zon file.
I'll get it out ASAP.
Regards All.
And Merry X-Mas
:yeah:

Oh, the other project is a Bathurst Class Minesweeper.
A bit more work on it and I'll start posting in Game shots.
It's a real beauty with some very special extras!
Think new animation stuff if you need a clue.
Regards.

Rapt0r56
12-26-09, 03:09 AM
Wow, that looks awesome, with those four hatches it becomes to a really eye-catch.;)
The reflects have been done also. :woot::up:
Oh, the other project is a Bathurst Class Minesweeper.
A bit more work on it and I'll start posting in Game shots.
It's a real beauty with some very special extras!
Think new animation stuff if you need a clue.
Regards.
looking forward to some screens.

kurfürst
12-26-09, 04:00 AM
Privateer,

that looks fantastic!
I´m deeply impressed of your work and your eye on detail!
It will be a pleasure to see that modification in SH III.

Danke! Danke! :rock:

Merry X-mas, Kurfürst

nikbear
12-27-09, 04:59 PM
Just a thought,for those of us who use the water drain mod,would it be possible to get a modded version to use with this Fantastic looking U-Schnelltauchback:06: I can't remember off hand who originally created it,or how hard it would be to modify it to suit,but would really look great on this:yeah:

makman94
12-27-09, 05:09 PM
hello Privateer,
very nice your new sub but i have a question for you that is off topic

what happened with this mod that you announced long time ago about the dynamic shadows ?
you have said that your intentions were to release it .....so is there a possibility to see , at last, dynamic shadows at sh3 ?

bye

Magic1111
12-28-09, 06:15 AM
It's nearly complete.
Here's the newest shots.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_6.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_5.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_4.jpghttp://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_3.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_2.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Newest_9C_1.jpg

Just a bit more work on the UV stuff.
The reflects have been done also.
Along with an adjusted zon file.
I'll get it out ASAP.
Regards All.
And Merry X-Mas
:yeah:

Oh, the other project is a Bathurst Class Minesweeper.
A bit more work on it and I'll start posting in Game shots.
It's a real beauty with some very special extras!
Think new animation stuff if you need a clue.
Regards.

Hello Privateer !

Absolutely fantastic work !!! :yeah::up:

Best regards,
Magic

nikbear
01-06-10, 04:14 PM
Any news on how this wonderful work is going?:06:

kurfürst
01-07-10, 02:25 AM
Let´s wait a little until he has finished his work! :zzz:

I´m sure Privateer will come up with a perfect Mod of the "Schnelltauchback"!

Best regards and a Happy 2010!
Kurfürst

Magic1111
01-07-10, 04:06 AM
I´m sure Privateer will come up with a perfect Mod of the "Schnelltauchback"!

Best regards and a Happy 2010!
Kurfürst

Hello !

Yes, I´m sure too !!! :D

Best regards,
Magic

kurfürst
01-16-10, 02:28 PM
It has become a little bit quite here; hope that Privateer hasn´t lost interest in the "Schnelltauchback"! His WIP shots looked so impressive! :up::up:

But good things take time, and besides Silent Hunter, we all have other "engagements" in real live like job, family, children...

So lets be patient and wait until the work has been finished!

Best Regards,

Kurfürst

Madox58
01-22-10, 07:42 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates.
Been traveling for the last month on different jobs
and the laptop is no longer able to travel with me.

Still working to finish up now that I'm home again.

But here's some quick info.

Adjusting the Basic.cfg will remove the external storage areas.
Adjusting the Main Ballist flood time in the sim file will produce faster dive times.
I'd guess maybe the mass settings may need adjusted also.
Since there was a lot of bulk now missing from this Boat.
(Less Deck and Hull structure and no extra Torps)
I'm not sure if I have any good specs to look at,
but I'll dig through my "Adrian" Library. ;)
I may also adjust the Val file to get some sort of water
effect in the new area also.
Seems to me it should throw a spray much like the Bow area at times.
Adding a few nodes to the dat and new settings in the val files will do this pretty easily.
The water drain effect could be added with minor adjustments to the original placements.
The files I'm useing are GWX files so all ID's are intact.
This is your Mod.
I'm just a freelance Modder lending a hand to a great Idea.
So you may want to find someone who can adjust the Menu.ini stuff
so you get a proper loadout screen and damage screen to complete this.
That stuff is VooDoo to me.
My first thought would be to ask Danlisa for advise.
He's taught me much in the ways of Graphics.
And I know he's got a way with the Menu.ini stuff.
I also have the 'Turms Your Way' Type 9's nearly completed.
They'd make a great Sister release.

Alex
01-22-10, 07:53 PM
but I'll dig through my "Adrian" Library. ;)

Haha ! http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/GWXforum/Smileys/laughyork.gif :03:

Always a pleasure to see that you're still there J ! http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/3.gif :arrgh!:

If you ever need a book(s) from the library that you can't find on your HD ?
Ask for it, and you'll get some download link via PM in a matter of minutes. :up:

Take care ! :DL

Madox58
01-22-10, 10:41 PM
I'll take you up on that soon my Friend.
Know that I'm never far away and have a few other
neat things in the works also.

TarJak
01-22-10, 10:53 PM
I also have the 'Turms Your Way' Type 9's nearly completed.
They'd make a great Sister release.Great to hear you are still working on them. Can't wait to get me grubby mits on the IX turms. Have quite a lot of IX historical turms waiting for this mod.;)

Alex
01-23-10, 09:24 PM
I'll take you up on that soon my Friend.
Know that I'm never far away and have a few other
neat things in the works also.

Roger ! :up: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/attention.gif

Great to hear you are still working on them.

:yep:

kurfürst
01-24-10, 02:52 AM
[quote=privateer;1243759]
I may also adjust the Val file to get some sort of water
effect in the new area also.
Seems to me it should throw a spray much like the Bow area at times.
Adding a few nodes to the dat and new settings in the val files will do this pretty easily.
The water drain effect could be added with minor adjustments to the original placements.

Hi Privateer,

good to hear from you!
With all the adjustements, this Mod will not just be eye-candy but a great addition to the game. :yeah:
If you plan to adjust the water effects, this footage might be helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol0lDHZQ9FI

It shows U-858 and U-805, both equipped with the Schnelltauchback, surrendering to the U.S. Navy.

Beste Grüsse, Kurfürst

Rapt0r56
02-07-10, 04:46 PM
Any news on how the work is going on? :|\\

Magic1111
02-09-10, 08:52 AM
Any news on how the work is going on? :|\\


I'm also interested! :rock::yep:

Best regards,
Magic

kurfürst
02-09-10, 01:49 PM
Believe me, I´m looking forward to this one, too!

I´m sure that Privateer is still working on the Mod, but, as he mentioned previously, he is working on several other things in real life. So let´s wait patiently.


I had a very interesting e-Mail conversation with Werner Hirschmann, the former LI of U-190, a Schnelltauchback-equipped IX C/40. He described the effects of the Schnelltauchback as follows:

"Soweit ich mich erinnere, wurde dieser Umbau wesentlich damit begründet (wie auch in meinem Buch beschrieben), daß die breite Fläche der Back Schwierigkeiten hatte, die Wasseroberfläche zu durchbrechen. Sie hatte die Neigung an der Wasseroberfläche zu haften. Gibt es bei Euch das Wort 'Adhäsion' = Adhesion im Englishen)? Ganz ehrlich gesagt, kann ich mich nicht an sehr entscheidenden Unterschied in der Tauchzeit erinnern. Die Zeit die wir benötigten, das Boot auf sechzig Meter abzufangen, war sehr abhängig von anderen Faktoren, wie das zu der Zeit existierenden Gewicht und die Gewichtsverteilung, dem Seegang, mit Stärke und Richtung, das Funktionieren meiner Helfer, und vielleicht davon, mit welchem Bein ich zuerst aus meiner Koje kam. Glück und die Zusammenfassung der erwähnten Faktoren spielte wahrscheinlich auch eine Rolle. Die eingeschnittene Back hatte sicher einen positiven Effekt, aber mir war es dann, oder heute, nicht möglich, es in Sekunden zu definieren. Aber die Veränderung gab uns sicher ein gutes Gefühl. Einbildung hilft immer."

"As far as I remember, this modification was justified with the fact that the broad deck of the boat caused difficulties "cutting" the water surface while crash-diving. The deck had the negative effect of "being glued" to the surface due to adhesion effects. I can´t remeber the difference in diving time; this was more influenced by facts like weight, balance, wave heigth and direction, and of course the crews ability; not to mention my own.
The cut-away foredeck had of course a positive effect, but its hard to tell the advantage in seconds. But anyway, the modification gave us a good feeling. Imagination always helps."

Beste Grüsse, Kurfürst :salute:

Magic1111
02-09-10, 02:32 PM
"Soweit ich mich erinnere, wurde dieser Umbau wesentlich damit begründet (wie auch in meinem Buch beschrieben), daß die breite Fläche der Back Schwierigkeiten hatte, die Wasseroberfläche zu durchbrechen. Sie hatte die Neigung an der Wasseroberfläche zu haften. Gibt es bei Euch das Wort 'Adhäsion' = Adhesion im Englishen)? Ganz ehrlich gesagt, kann ich mich nicht an sehr entscheidenden Unterschied in der Tauchzeit erinnern. Die Zeit die wir benötigten, das Boot auf sechzig Meter abzufangen, war sehr abhängig von anderen Faktoren, wie das zu der Zeit existierenden Gewicht und die Gewichtsverteilung, dem Seegang, mit Stärke und Richtung, das Funktionieren meiner Helfer, und vielleicht davon, mit welchem Bein ich zuerst aus meiner Koje kam. Glück und die Zusammenfassung der erwähnten Faktoren spielte wahrscheinlich auch eine Rolle. Die eingeschnittene Back hatte sicher einen positiven Effekt, aber mir war es dann, oder heute, nicht möglich, es in Sekunden zu definieren. Aber die Veränderung gab uns sicher ein gutes Gefühl. Einbildung hilft immer."

:salute:

Very interesting ! Thank you for the information ! :yeah:

Best regards,
Magic

BillCar
02-09-10, 11:56 PM
So, I just stumbled across this now... and wow, am I ever impressed! This is a great idea!

I've never been sold on the Type IX boats. I feel too vulnerable in them, particularly when it comes to crash diving. I always wondered why there was no Schnelltauchback feature included before, since I knew of their existence (and I figured that if I knew, most others would too, as I am still learning about U-boats).

When this mod comes together, I will have the opportunity to sail to my homeland and sink some of my countrymen in the Gulf of St. Lawrence! I can't wait to fall in love with the Type IXC/40. It'll get me out of the Type VIIs for a change!

Oh, and kurfuerst – es ist unglaublich cool, dass Sie mit Herr Hirschman gesprochen haben. Gibt es weitere E-mails? Ich moechte gern mehr lesen!

kurfürst
02-11-10, 02:04 PM
Oh, and kurfuerst – es ist unglaublich cool, dass Sie mit Herr Hirschman gesprochen haben. Gibt es weitere E-mails? Ich moechte gern mehr lesen!

Yes, it is great to talk to somebody who experienced everything first hand.
I "met" Werner Hirschmann in a German Uboat forum; if you´re interested I´ll drop You a PM. German Uboats had been quite succesfull in your home waters during the end of the war, especially U-806 (Hornbostel) and U-1232 (Dobratz). Let me know if you want to read more about these two boats and their operations.

Beste Grüße, Kurfürst

P.S.: Your German is perfekt, mein Herr! :up:

BillCar
02-11-10, 03:20 PM
Yes, it is great to talk to somebody who experienced everything first hand.
I "met" Werner Hirschmann in a German Uboat forum; if you´re interested I´ll drop You a PM. German Uboats had been quite succesfull in your home waters during the end of the war, especially U-806 (Hornbostel) and U-1232 (Dobratz). Let me know if you want to read more about these two boats and their operations.

Beste Grüße, Kurfürst

P.S.: Your German is perfekt, mein Herr! :up:

Danke! I've spent part of each year in Berlin since 2003. Doch, mein Deutsch ist nicht immer perfekt. Someday, though – I am studying German here at university.

It'd be great if you could send me some of the emails if you have the time; a PM would be fantastic – I'd love to hear about Hornbostel and Dobratz, as well.

PS: While we're on the subject of first-hand accounts, my grandfather was in the Royal Canadian Navy. Here's a link to part of his memoirs, if you are interested – I posted them in naval discussion subforum: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160925

If you've got any questions after reading, I've offered anyone who reads it the opportunity to ask me questions that I can then ask him.

kurfürst
02-11-10, 03:53 PM
I´ll send You some Info tomorrow!

Gute Nacht, Kurfürst :yawn:

kurfürst
03-01-10, 04:23 AM
It has been a little bit quite here, hope that Privateer is still working on the "Schnelltauchback"!
The last screens looked absolutely fantastic!

Rapt0r56
03-01-10, 06:08 AM
I'm very interested in it.
:up:

A6Intruder
03-01-10, 12:31 PM
I'm very interested in it.
:up:

Me too! Please stay tuned and do not let this fantastic Mod die!!:yeah:
Best regards:salute:

Magic1111
03-01-10, 12:56 PM
Me too! Please stay tuned and do not let this fantastic Mod die!!:yeah:
Best regards:salute:

Yes, I totally agree this ! This MOD has to be come true and released ! :ping:

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

kurfürst
03-05-10, 09:06 AM
Maybe Privateer is working on other things at the moment and doesn't have the time to finish his Mod or post any updates.

Magic1111
03-05-10, 10:13 AM
Maybe Privateer is working on other things at the moment and doesn't have the time to finish his Mod or post any updates.


:wah::wah::wah::wah:

Madox58
03-10-10, 05:57 PM
Sorry Guys!
Due to a slow down in business, I was not connected to the Net
for nearly a year.
I popped in when I could from other peoples homes.
I'm re-connected again and business has improved.

I'll finish up the work this weekend and get a 1st version out by Monday.
I was thinking the color looked funny in places.
So I checked and found there are no caustics on Torp doors and rudder and dive planes.
So I've been adding them.

Monday!
I 'll have the 1st version out there for you.

Regards All!

JCWolf
03-10-10, 06:48 PM
Sorry Guys!
Due to a slow down in business, I was not connected to the Net
for nearly a year.
I popped in when I could from other peoples homes.
I'm re-connected again and business has improved.

I'll finish up the work this weekend and get a 1st version out by Monday.
I was thinking the color looked funny in places.
So I checked and found there are no caustics on Torp doors and rudder and dive planes.
So I've been adding them.

Monday!
I 'll have the 1st version out there for you.

Regards All!


Privateeeeeerrrrrrrr iiiiisssss baaaack!:D

kurfürst
03-11-10, 02:33 AM
Hello Privateer,

good to have you back! :up::up:

And also good to hear that your business is improving, it´s f.....g times we´re going through at the moment!

Looking forward to your release!

Beste Grüsse, Kurfürst

Magic1111
03-11-10, 03:04 AM
Monday!
I 'll have the 1st version out there for you.

Regards All!

Hello privateer !

That sounds very, very good ! :yeah:

I´m looking forward to release too.........BUT I can´t wait...:D

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

BUKER
03-21-10, 10:48 PM
It is a pity that things did not go ....

Magic1111
03-22-10, 09:02 AM
It is a pity that things did not go ....

Yes, I agree this ! :wah:

I would be happy with a release! :up:

Best regards,
Magic

kurfürst
03-22-10, 11:48 AM
No worries, it´s not too far away! :up::up:

grimes
04-01-10, 07:41 PM
Any update on this?

Magic1111
04-02-10, 04:31 AM
I am almost sure that nothing is more with the MOD..... :wah:

We wait, and wait........and wait..................and wait again....................:06:

BUT: Let us hope ! :D

Best regards,
Magic:salute:

kurfürst
04-02-10, 08:28 AM
Hello Kaleuns,

no worries, I´m sure Privateer will release his "Schnelltauchback" Mod.
It is a bit of waiting, sure, but don´t forget that he was disconnected from the internet for quite a while and as he´s self-employed may not have the time to work on his projects as others probably could.
If You check his "Work In Progress"-thread in this Forum You´ll see that he is still working on it. His Bangor Minesweeper looks also great. Can´t wait to sink that one!

Happy Easter to all!
Kurfürst

Madox58
04-02-10, 09:21 AM
I had to do a re-install on my system.
:nope:
But I still have all the files safe.
Got a long weekend so I'll do work on it.

Hitman
04-02-10, 09:43 AM
What's the current status, Privateer? What is still missing/needed of revision, so we can have an idea of the evolution of the mod and effort needed to completion? :DL From pictures in previous posts, I would say it is already very advanced, isn't it? But I know from own experience that once only some finishing touches are left, it becomes more and more boring to finish the job :haha:

Madox58
04-02-10, 09:54 AM
I just need to 'cut' the build object apart and place it on the 9C Hull.
The Hull I was useing to build the 3D objects lost some faces somewhere
along the line.

I've got to finish re-installing some 3D software to finish up.
I should be ready for release this weekend.

I'll set aside the SH5 and GR2/Granny stuff till it's done.

grimes
04-02-10, 10:36 AM
:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

This is as exciting as FM Interior 1.0 was. :yeah:

Madox58
04-02-10, 10:40 AM
Cutting is in process.
Thank Goodness I have 2 systems here to use for a day or so!
:yep:

Madox58
04-02-10, 11:38 AM
On the final 3D work stages for the first release now.
A few more hours and I'll release it.
:up:
It will need a bit more work to perfect but this release will allow
everyone to look at it and maybe spot issues I'm not aware of.

This release will be for GWX only at this time.
If other Mod groups wish this mod?
I'll be happy to provide the needed 3D objects.
And details for 3D work needed to use it.

grimes
04-02-10, 12:06 PM
A few more hours and I'll release it.<a

http://media.photobucket.com/image/jizz%20in%20my%20pants/hightymes123/qxt6q9.gif?o=24
http://s1.postimage.org/1fmWA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1fmWA)
http://media.photobucket.com/image/jizz%20in%20my%20pants/PACKKING10/TVMoviegifs/jimpjorma.gif?o=29

Madox58
04-02-10, 12:16 PM
Final assembly of all 3D parts in progress.
It's getting closer!
:D

Madox58
04-02-10, 12:48 PM
This thread is has done it's work!
Released Version 1 today!