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JU_88
12-04-09, 09:19 AM
At the Ubi forums: :yeah: woohoo!
linky.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/1801021018


NEW VIDEO HERE!! (3d engine Demo)
http://videos.uk.ubi.com/index.php?video=9w40cuh7




Scene polygon count was increased
- A large harbor with U-boats and ships present will have around 3.5 million polygons

Ship polygon count was increased
- Civilian ships - around 25k polygons
- Small and medium warships – 27-30k polygons
- Large warships – 45k-60k polygons

Ship detail improvements
- Added 1024x1024 textures
- The “normal” texture will be more detailed
- Two “diffuse” textures applied
- Weapons detail has been increased with 20% (compared with Silent Hunter 4)

U-boat model improvements
- Fully modeled and accessible interior
- Model exterior has a polygon count of roughly 2 million polygons
- Model exterior and textures are improved by 70% (compared with Silent Hunter 4)

Environment improvements
- Dynamic weather simulation, depending on climate zone, sea and season
- Ships, buildings, terrain, vegetation and precipitations change depending on season
- Illumination and colors depend on season/sea type
- Interior and exterior High Dynamic Range lighting
- Extensive color correction filters are applied for atmosphere tuning
- Volumetric clouds and light rays
- Harbors mimic real harbors in shape

Water improvements
- Realistic look
- Realistic water movement depending on weather conditions
- 3D water deformation
- Shore waves

But that’s not all. You don’t have to take our word on these; you can see for your own eyes some of the visual improvements in these brand new in-game screenshots: (see link)



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/851/sh5visualimprovement9.jpg
Improved rendering distance
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3741/sh5visualimprovement8.jpg
Water and sky
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1061/sh5visualimprovement7.jpg
Atmosphere and FPS view
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6555/sh5visualimprovement6.jpg
Terrain and ship models
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6499/sh5visualimprovement5.jpg
Visual effects and water
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2518/sh5visualimprovement4.jpg
Ship model & detail
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2537/sh5visualimprovement3.jpg
Atmosphere
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4024/sh5visualimprovement2.jpg
Atmosphere and rendering distance
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8637/64973989.jpg
This one doesn’t have any name, but… it’s from SH5 :)

mookiemookie
12-04-09, 09:35 AM
Can'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan't waitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitC an'twait

:yeah::rock:

AVGWarhawk
12-04-09, 09:45 AM
WOW, that is beautiful. I'm thinking this is the culmination of years of study and struggle to bring the best sub simulation. Well done UBI:yeah:

stabiz
12-04-09, 09:45 AM
I that really is ingame (particularly the explosion) I will loose my socks.

Ritmeister
12-04-09, 09:52 AM
:woot:WOW!!!! Just terrific!!!!

:salute: Salute UBI :yeah::yeah::yeah:

AVGWarhawk
12-04-09, 09:58 AM
Looking at this again I would say getting a fast computer is in order if you have not gotten one already.

Seeadler
12-04-09, 09:58 AM
just notice, the sun no longer shines through the tower ;)

JU_88
12-04-09, 10:07 AM
Volumetric Clouds... OOHHH YES!!! :rock:

karamazovnew
12-04-09, 10:08 AM
HOLY &$@)@~$%#@!!!!
I guess Christmas is coming late this year :haha:

PL_Andrev
12-04-09, 10:26 AM
At least... thanks UBI!!!
We wait for next film after Chrismas... :DL

But I see that my old graphic card is to weak for it...
:wah:

Short rating of SH5:
-----------------------------------
10% SH5 graphics: AMAZING
20% SH5 mechanics: UNKNOWN
30% SH5 bugs: UNKNOWN
40% SH5 playablity: UNKNOWN

SteamWake
12-04-09, 10:29 AM
So much for lack of info from the dev's they do it right in a coordinated and productive manner. :up:

Oh and thanks for the link. I havent been to the UBI site in a looooong time.

ichso
12-04-09, 10:37 AM
Looks like some solid graphical improvements to me.
I won't go overboard with enthusiasm right now, because nice graphics have lured me into medicore games some times too often.

Not that I except this game to fail, but as always I will wait for some dedicated reviews before I buy, especially if they aren't random reviews like most gaming sites put them up but coming from people who are really into this genre.

I liked the short interior scene btw - very immersive ;)

Thanks for the uploads

EDIT: one question though: why is everybody praising UBI soft for this ? I mean, they are just the publishers, not the developers or am I wrong there ? Maybe I misunderstand something in the development-selling hierachie there ^^

Schultz
12-04-09, 10:51 AM
Looks great , thanks UBI

Seeadler
12-04-09, 11:00 AM
EDIT: one question though: why is everybody praising UBI soft for this ? I mean, they are just the publishers, not the developers or am I wrong there ? Maybe I misunderstand something in the development-selling hierachie there ^^

Both, Ubisoft works with external, independent studios and just published their games and has as well own development studios with own devs, in Bucharest, in Montreal and other cities around the globe.

Faamecanic
12-04-09, 11:03 AM
Because the swastika is illegal to be displayed in Germany (and other countries?)

mookiemookie
12-04-09, 11:07 AM
Because the swastika is illegal to be displayed in Germany (and other countries?)

Very simple to be modded, as well.

Faamecanic
12-04-09, 11:08 AM
Is this ICE accreation I see on the boats in the Northern climates??? WOW! I hope the Devs are putting as much thought into gamplay as they are detail and graphics...if they are I do believe this will be the Sub Sims to beat all Sub Sims! :woot:

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2518/sh5visualimprovement4.jpg

Seeadler
12-04-09, 11:12 AM
How come they still have problems with historical signs ?
The Allied Control Council prohibited on Oct. 10. 1945, the swastika in Germany and Austria. These countries took over this law in their constitution.

In in the seventies, this law was modified in Germany. Swastikas are allowed to show for historical education in documentation or books and as well in artistic works such as pictures, movies.

Computer games are not considered by law as artistic works and swastikas are banned in computer games in Germany. Ubisoft would not get in these countries a permission to sell a game with swastikas.

JU_88
12-04-09, 11:35 AM
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6499/sh5visualimprovement5.jpg

:rock::rock:

Alex
12-04-09, 11:48 AM
**** ! :o :o :o :o

:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

Dowly
12-04-09, 12:00 PM
Nnnice! :rock:

Only one gripe, the volumetric light during casting shadow from the destroyer's mast when the sun was going down was abit silly. Correct me if I'm wrong but, shouldnt there be fog, pollution etc. in the air for the shadow to be visible? I know I've never seen that effect in real life in clear wearther. :hmmm:

Otherwise, it looks awesome. :yeah:

PL_Andrev
12-04-09, 12:03 PM
There is answer why is no FPP IIWW shooters with the German hero...
Swastika is nazi symbol, publishing this symbol is banned in many European countries.
This is no US.
:DL

So? What is the first mod for SH5? "SH5 real war symbols"?
:rotfl2::salute:


Correct me if I'm wrong but, shouldnt there be fog, pollution etc. in the air for the shadow to be visible? I know I've never seen that effect in real life in clear wearther. :hmmm:

OMG, now you have a problem...
Relax, to "real life" sim you will turn off this effect...
:rotfl2:

JU_88
12-04-09, 12:20 PM
So you think the people of Germany don't play COD ? If in Germany the law of swastika is still in force and games are not held as artistic works so basically there should be no games available to buy with WW2 theme ?

Somehow I'm finding this law outdated already. If there can be movies with swastika and there are games with swastika like COD, Brothers in Arms, etc. why should SH5 be an exception ? :doh:


Dont matter, You wil get swastikas, as they can be modded in - in about 15 minutes (by virtually anyone)
Export DDS files to Photoshop, copy and paste, save, re-import back to SHV & Done!
IMHO there are much bigger things to worry about.

HanSolo78
12-04-09, 12:23 PM
I made a shot from the video for those who wanna see how it looks in stormy bad weather conditions:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2599/stormpy.jpg

oscar19681
12-04-09, 12:26 PM
The only downfall is I NEED MORE!! no seriously i really must say (or am i the only one) that it looks too much like an upgraded sh-4 kindish. Really looks good and all but still i,m not convtinced what the major improvment is. But still many months to go..

JU_88
12-04-09, 12:29 PM
If soviet symbols aren't held as bad joke, why should swastikas be ? :)


Well my answer to that question would probably be GT forum material, so i better stop myself. :haha:

JU_88
12-04-09, 12:35 PM
The only downfall is I NEED MORE!!

You're a hardcore preview junkie you are!
You need to get you self down to 'Previewholics anonymous'
"Please Ubi, I just need one more hit to see me though, It will be the last one I swear" :rotfl2:
Mind you -the rest of us are not far behind you mate :)

SHV in snortable-powder-format anyone?

Méo
12-04-09, 12:41 PM
GREAT!!!!

We've been waiting so long for some in-game footage, looks so cool, i don't want to think about any pejorative thing for the moment.

EVERYONE at UBI ROMANIA, thank you! and keep up your great work! :rock:

JU_88
12-04-09, 12:43 PM
lol ok.. :)

I simply not thinking about swastika as a resident evil thing. Blame certain person, policy for all the bad things in life, but signs are just signs now. They have lost their meanings nowadays.

True, true...
Oh and I dont mean I would have had a go at you or anything, just that i would have bored you to death with my political jibber jabber. :DL

PL_Andrev
12-04-09, 12:44 PM
So you think the people of Germany don't play COD ?

As on German (Nazi) side? As German hero?
NO. I'm sure.

Shiplord
12-04-09, 12:49 PM
and there are games with swastika like COD, Brothers in Arms, etc. why should SH5 be an exception ? :doh:

German versions of COD, Brothers in Arms and other WWII games are without swastika, it cost the developer/publisher extra time and money to build these modified version only for the german market and the other countries where the swastika is forbidden in games. Ubisoft decided not to go this extra route!

ichso
12-04-09, 12:49 PM
Uh, stickied already! ^^
Maybe it's even not necessary because so many people will be posting their joy that it would stay on top either way :DL

JU_88
12-04-09, 12:50 PM
I made a shot from the video for those who wanna see how it looks in stormy bad weather conditions:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2599/stormpy.jpg


Cool shot Hans :up:,
I like these two screens as a comparision also... as they are of the same scene - someplace in the Med by the looks of the Italian warship. :)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/851/sh5visualimprovement9.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4024/sh5visualimprovement2.jpg

TDK1044
12-04-09, 12:53 PM
Nice, Ubisoft. Nice. :)

HanSolo78
12-04-09, 01:05 PM
@Ju88

Yeah, I had those twoe screenies also in my mind... they look like "La Spezia" to me! One in summer and one in autaumn/winter. If you have a look in SH3 at the big mountains in the background and compare...it seems this sceene only with fewer details. The environment is a lot better than in SH3/4... very very good. I hope they also add farms, villages, windmills and other european buildings or monuments.

GoldenRivet
12-04-09, 01:09 PM
Very Very Nice.

This update has exceeded my expectations.

Hats off to Ubisoft.

urfisch
12-04-09, 01:09 PM
yapp, the engine seems to work. BESIDE the fact they spend half of the video to show the sunray effect, which appeared first in crysis some years ago...the water looks nice. and the raindrops on the screen are very beautiful...landscape looks more detailled, which is nice too. but they still seem to use the crappy harbour kit. building the docks of cubes is not very realistic. even saw no explosions...or a fire from distance...

BUT

lets wait a bit longer...maybe this is gonna blow me too. otherwise, i am happy to have a full modable boat interior and nice crewmodels. the increasing of polycount is nice, too. opens up a lot of possibilities. modders, stay alert. we will have some new playground.

:88)

PL_Andrev
12-04-09, 01:18 PM
O my God!
This is real rain! Without high-density fog known in SH4...
Now it is ... perfect!

The water particle system is beautiful! Now attack on stormy weather or in rain will be a pleasure...
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4851/screenhunter21a.jpg

Now I believe that snowstorm will be just exciting...

makman94
12-04-09, 02:45 PM
congratulations ubi ! that can be called , at last , 'environment' ! :yeah:

totodog
12-04-09, 02:45 PM
This is simply amazing!

Hats off to everyone at ubisoft romania!

Sailor Steve
12-04-09, 02:58 PM
Can'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan't waitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitCan'twaitC an'twait

:yeah::rock:
HavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHaveto! :p2::rotfl2:

It is gorgeous, though. At first I was a tiny bit unhappy that the rain left drops on the screen. On the periscope and binoculars, sure, but not on my eyes. Now that I've looked at it a few times I notice that it doesn't stay there long, and it really is kind of cool.

I just hope the gameplay improvements are as good as the graphics. Overall - :rock::yeah::salute:

tonyj
12-04-09, 03:02 PM
fantastic. very nice job.

Wild_skipper
12-04-09, 03:04 PM
OMG me likes very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can i have ??? NOOOOOWW ??

rod_oil
12-04-09, 03:05 PM
:up:Hmmm... impressive... Bravo UBI!!! :woot:

(Let's hope that is in game all will looks similar)

wetwarev7
12-04-09, 03:21 PM
(drool)

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

narco1966
12-04-09, 03:53 PM
:DJust looked at the 3d engine video very impressive,love the rain i hope the game play will be a challange i have a machine built to play this(thanks mr tax man returns).No doubt there will be patches etc but then is'nt that why we play? without challanges it would be boring:damn:
multiplayer....hmmm all new play area cant wait


my pc runs with 4gb ram,500gb hard drive,geforce 9800gts (2x512 cards)
all running on a nice quad at 2.8gb overclocked to 3.1 thanks to my bud wizard for building it with more to happen in 2010

PL_Andrev
12-04-09, 03:57 PM
At first I was a tiny bit unhappy that the rain left drops on the screen. On the periscope and binoculars, sure, but not on my eyes. Now that I've looked at it a few times I notice that it doesn't stay there long, and it really is kind of cool.

You feel it, huh?

This effect does not disturb so much, but is very very climatic...
I feel this rain on my face...

Great idea, fantastic job!
:yeah:

THE_MASK
12-04-09, 04:43 PM
HavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHavetoHaveto! :p2::rotfl2:

It is gorgeous, though. At first I was a tiny bit unhappy that the rain left drops on the screen. On the periscope and binoculars, sure, but not on my eyes. Now that I've looked at it a few times I notice that it doesn't stay there long, and it really is kind of cool.

I just hope the gameplay improvements are as good as the graphics. Overall - :rock::yeah::salute:
Be careful what you ask for .
From the wishlist
As a first person player the weather should affect my and the crews vision . The screen should be my eyes so if its raining then there should be water getting in your eyes . I should be able to put a rain hat on and improve my vision. If its large seas then tie the bow wave to the action of sea water getting in my eyes . I should have the ability to put on a pair of goggles . I should be able to wipe water from the goggles by pressing a key and the same to wipe my eyes . The screen should be my eyes . If there should be water in my eyes then make the screen blurry etc etc etc :rock:

not a bad idea i thought .

gronbek
12-04-09, 04:51 PM
Nice is the word :)

Hoping for unlimited play sailing my ship :yeah:

Seeadler
12-04-09, 04:58 PM
A large harbor with U-boats and ships present will have around 3.5 million polygonshmm,:hmmm:
maybe I can finally convert my reference models of real subpen harbors of the Atlantic coast. This was impossible so far because of the polygon count of these models.

Ducimus
12-04-09, 05:01 PM
RE Swaztika's.

The problem with including swaztika's out of the box is because it's too much of a liability. Both legally, and socially. Other games like COD include them because your not playing as a nazi. (MP not withstanding). Your usually shooting nazi's. That's socially acceptable because Nazi's are accepted by most societies as emotionless inhuman bad guys who are out to do evil, and the swaztika is still considered an ominous symbol by most. (these days as FPS's go, Zombies are the new Nazi's but thats another story). When you start playing under the banner of the 3rd reich (as opposed to shooting at it), then the moral slope gets a little slippery by most standards. Ubi made the best decision by sidestepping the issue entirely.

RE SH5.

Look's pretty!

Webster
12-04-09, 05:03 PM
it looks great but i must agree with others on the water drops in your eyes :nope:

we are not looking at the world through a glass window so this must be limited to views with the scopes or uzo otherwise its an issue and the first thing on my list to remove with mods.

i also noticed as the sun went down the ship shadows were going skyward like light shafts so im hoping thats still "in process" and not where they leave it. im guessing and hoping its something a modder could fix it if we needed to.

i also think having ships that are still breaking in half is a mistake because IMO it was fairly rare and im sad to see it is modeled into the sh5 game. i dont mind seeing them crack and sink (cracking and splitting hulls is a good thing to see and its realistic) but they shouldnt be seperating into pieces, it just isnt something they should be doing and IMO it was a very rare occurance in real life for them to ever completely seperate. (at least not while still afloat)

even if you agree they should break apart it shouldnt be cleanly sliced sections, it should look splintered and ripped apart.


now that my nitpicking and complaining is done i must say, overall it looks fantastic :yeah:


now that ubi is showing us this, people will go even more bonkers wanting it now and not wanting to wait for it :O:

Cambaz
12-04-09, 05:09 PM
oh my I think it is time to rebuild a new powerful PC...

SH 5 will be ... beautiful

DedEye
12-04-09, 05:12 PM
wicked!!!!!! :rock:

I like the water on the view. A number of FPS games (eg Bioshock) have this feature.

Oberleutnant nederlander
12-04-09, 05:22 PM
:arrgh!:.....yargh !!!

this does look amazing ! can't wait to see if your uboat will have ice build up on it as it hunt's through the murmansk run...with a snowy blizzard to....oh :o...i can't wait...

but...

let's just hope that everything else fall's into place...

especialy a dynamic historicaly correct campaign..:know:

The General
12-04-09, 05:24 PM
I just hope the gameplay improvements are as good as the graphics.The graphic artists have done some beautiful work here. The model of the player's sub, for example, is a masterpiece (inside & out)! However, most of the problems with SH4 had nothing to do with graphics. While this particular update was concerned with the graphical improvements (understandable if you wanna quickly showcase the work done), I for one am most keen to see a list concerning improvements made to the dynamic campaign (all in good time). For example; one particular bugbear of SH4 was the deployment of aircraft in the dynamic campaign. As a matter of fact, half-written code exists in SH4 for both dynamic shadows and a far more elaborate aircraft deployment model. I just hope that this time the Devs get given a fair chance to finish their work...

Seeadler
12-04-09, 05:33 PM
RE Swaztika's.
The problem with including swaztika's out of the box is because it's too much of a liability. Both legally, and socially. Other games like COD include them because your not playing as a nazi. (MP not withstanding).
I remember an AddOn of "Medal of Honor" was shortly after the release taken off the market here in Germany because the publisher EA has left a swastika texture in the AddOn. The addon was re-released a few weeks later as modified version in Germany.

It's not that we are not allowed here in Germany to buy any games with swastikas. We can order them on an entirely private gain abroad via Amazon, Gamestop etc. if we proof we are age of 18 or older but just can't buy it in a public game store.

JU_88
12-04-09, 05:35 PM
even if you agree they should break apart it shouldnt be cleanly sliced sections, it should look splintered and ripped apart.

From what i saw in the video, the break IS jagged, I did not see a 'clean slice' as you mentioned. To me it looks fine as is.

I can tell you (as some one with a fair bit of 3d moddling knowlege) that adding ultra realistic splintering and debrise to the break, is royal pain in the ass in 3d, especially when you have to apply multiple breaks to 50+ ship models.
It is too much effort for too little reward, IMHO the moddlers time is better spent on some additional units instead.

Oberleutnant nederlander
12-04-09, 05:37 PM
:06:it's silly and annoying, but touchy subject..some one will mod it, no need to worry, seen it on many game's.

Alex
12-04-09, 05:40 PM
@ Seeadler : Moin, http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/Coucou.gif

maybe I can finally convert my reference models of real subpen harbors of the Atlantic coast. This was impossible so far because of the polygon count of these models.

Can you show some render of what you've been doing so far on this project ? ;)

Carotio
12-04-09, 06:05 PM
Well, I'm just going to say that I keep my positive attitude and await the game with interest and hope for a good outcome, which I'm sure I will appriciate as a good improvement over SH3 (and partly also SH4).
Because what I see in the new shots and in the video is quite fine.

Alex
12-04-09, 06:14 PM
BTW,

Environment improvements
- Ships, buildings, terrain, vegetation and precipitations change depending on season
[...]
- Harbors mimic real harbors in shape

Can't wait to see what the SH5 guys are going to come up with ! :hmm2: :hmm2: :hmm2: :hmm2:

QC01
12-04-09, 06:22 PM
Incredible !!! :o The dev's are in line for Sainthood , now where did I put the phone number to the Vatican ???????

oscar19681
12-04-09, 06:22 PM
You're a hardcore preview junkie you are!
You need to get you self down to 'Previewholics anonymous'
"Please Ubi, I just need one more hit to see me though, It will be the last one I swear" :rotfl2:
Mind you -the rest of us are not far behind you mate :)

SHV in snortable-powder-format anyone?

Oh man please man please man! i cant stand it no more. Dont you know a ubi dealer around town? I mean its been 2 months sins my last fix , Just got one today and it was good but the stuff is rare these days and i just need more! Please man i know you have some!!! Ill even play your silent hunter 3 for it.

longam
12-04-09, 06:36 PM
Some really great stuff DEVS. The game really has more environmental life to it now.

GimmiGimmiGimmi :D

rcjonessnp175
12-04-09, 06:51 PM
Looks awesome Devs!!! Nice to see it may finally have Dynamic shadows woohoo, and the sun/god rays look Uber:yeah:

Snestorm
12-04-09, 08:21 PM
Wow!
If there is as much improvement in How Things Work as there is in How Things Look, SHV is going to be some ride.

That bow on shot of the surface ship getting closer scared the heck out of me.
I tryed jumping out of my chair. Whew!

My computer is definately going to need an upgrade prior to installation.

As BDU says in SHIII:
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, UBI !

karamazovnew
12-04-09, 09:50 PM
Check out Gato76's post that Takeda just closed. It has a link for a high resolution movie download. actually here it is: http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/59297/PC/Silent-Hunter-V-Battle-Of-The-Atlantic/Trailer/3D-Engine-Demonstration-Trailer. I've just downloaded the 1280x720 one. Looks amazing.

The rooftop of the lighthouse during the rain looks wet. A "Wet" shader would be nice at the waterline of ships, overall in rain and on the sub after it surfaces.
The dynamic shadows on ships look very well but on one ship you can still see shadows under the water as it's sinking.
Since the sub has foamy water near it , the sinking ships should make a lot foam too, the water looks too shiny and perfect near them. Actually I can't see any foam near passing ships AND static ships and it's necessary to create the illusion of disturbed water near the hull. Otherwise it feels as if the water doesn't care one bit and goes straight through the hulls, breaking the illusion.
Explosions alter the overall lighting in the scene but don't alter the shadows at all. It would be cool if explosions and fire would also create light shafts. It would make looking at burning ships at night cool.
Sun Light shafts (i mean volumetric shadows) get very diffused at dusk and sunrise. I know because I need to drive with the sun in my eye for 2-3 hours every friday morning. In the game they're well defined but they should completely dissapear if you have ANY direct eye contact with the sun at those hours.

PS: I'm a Virgo otherwise I wouldnt have been able to see these issues while also picking my jaw on the floor :haha:

THE_MASK
12-04-09, 09:54 PM
Interior and exterior High Dynamic Range lighting.
Extensive color correction filters are applied for atmosphere tuning.
This is going to make SH5 look so good .

SubV
12-04-09, 10:01 PM
I'm not impressed with the graphics engine demo. It looks like they put a lot of bloom and HDR on the old SH4 engine. The water looks exactly like SH4, too (competely unrealistic).

W_clear
12-04-09, 10:18 PM
Looks so good:yeah:

longam
12-04-09, 10:27 PM
I'm not impressed with the graphics engine demo. It looks like they put a lot of bloom and HDR on the old SH4 engine. The water looks exactly like SH4, too (competely unrealistic).

I know what, let's have them shut down all the modification capabilities and pump out exactly what they want, then we can be reassured that this simulator sucks.

Ducimus
12-04-09, 10:35 PM
So much ado for eye candy.

THE_MASK
12-04-09, 11:46 PM
So much ado for eye candy.
The update is about visual improvements but i agree that the gameplay improvements should be just as good . Looking forward to your awesome modding skills for SH5 .

Task Force
12-04-09, 11:47 PM
Cool, suprised I passed this thread earlyer... Nice stuff...

Méo
12-05-09, 01:06 AM
here it is: http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/59297/PC/Silent-Hunter-V-Battle-Of-The-Atlantic/Trailer/3D-Engine-Demonstration-Trailer. I've just downloaded the 1280x720 one. Looks amazing.

Thanks for the info, the 1280x720 is a lot better. :up:

quad5
12-05-09, 03:22 AM
Hi all! All is fine, very cool:rock::rock::rock:...but turm the geometry is not correct. :yep:
Pay attention at what height the antiaircraft machine gun is located. The turm should be corrected. Compare to the original on drawings and archival photos! Sorry for my bad english.

kiwi_2005
12-05-09, 04:21 AM
O..M..G it looks beautiful!!! :rock:

Reece
12-05-09, 04:51 AM
I must say, it's starting to look really awesome!:yep: Good one UBI!:yeah:

Kavok
12-05-09, 05:45 AM
I know I'm impressed. I can't understand how anyone could have anything negative to say about these shots!

Boris
12-05-09, 06:06 AM
AMAZING!

Some of you guys are being way too nitpicky... what we're seeing is a great improvement over the predecessors!

What really bugs me is that people are passing this off as eye candy... in fact I hate the term "eye candy" because it is always used in such a dismissive way.
Graphics are an integral part of realism in my opinion. There is no way we could have the immersion we want with the wire-frame graphics of the early 90s.

And for Dowly, and any other doubters... the sunray effect in real life, with clear skies over Melbourne...

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5921/p1050323.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/p1050323.jpg/)

java`s revenge
12-05-09, 06:23 AM
WOW WOW WOW :rock:


But did you also seen the small detail?? Small raindrops on the screen.....

Such a raindrops i have also seen in Rise of Flight.

Tomi_099
12-05-09, 06:30 AM
At the Ubi forums: :yeah: woohoo!
linky.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/1801021018


NEW VIDEO HERE!! (3d engine Demo)
http://videos.uk.ubi.com/index.php?video=9w40cuh7






http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/851/sh5visualimprovement9.jpg
Improved rendering distance
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3741/sh5visualimprovement8.jpg
Water and sky
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1061/sh5visualimprovement7.jpg
Atmosphere and FPS view
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6555/sh5visualimprovement6.jpg
Terrain and ship models
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6499/sh5visualimprovement5.jpg
Visual effects and water
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2518/sh5visualimprovement4.jpg
Ship model & detail
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2537/sh5visualimprovement3.jpg
Atmosphere
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4024/sh5visualimprovement2.jpg
Atmosphere and rendering distance
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8637/64973989.jpg
This one doesn’t have any name, but… it’s from SH5 :)


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PL_Andrev
12-05-09, 07:39 AM
it looks great but i must agree with others on the water drops in your eyes :nope:

we are not looking at the world through a glass window so this must be limited to views with the scopes or uzo otherwise its an issue and the first thing on my list to remove with mods.

I think that UBI wants to show all new graphic effects in new SH5...

But I disagree with you about rain. Water drops hit in your eyes directly or from splashes - you must protect your eyes by hand, wink (see by very thin gap) and you visibility is more hardly... so it is impossible to show this effects on your "real" face.

Do not be too critical.
The best way is when UBI adds this effect (and you can turn off it) than UBI does not add this effect (and you cannot turn on).

I hope that we will have this effect not only when rainy but when fast speed and big waves like on this screenshot:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4267/rain0.jpg

Jimbuna
12-05-09, 07:42 AM
Come on JU...pull yer socks up this was nearly into its second day when you posted it :doh:

You didn't have a swift half yesterday did you? :DL

Malmer
12-05-09, 07:46 AM
Mwa...






:D

PL_Andrev
12-05-09, 08:02 AM
For ALL:

This film is not captured from the game, but this is "3D engine demo" only...
So please without hard criticism...

This demo is available at youtube as HD quality too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssaI9OJZ50

irish1958
12-05-09, 08:27 AM
WOW, very good.
Of course, it is a matter of taste, but I would place graphics at 50% or more. If a game doesn't look good, I find I loose interest rapidly. I hope the game has a lot of bugs and the developers give us the ability to fix them with mods. Realistic game play is important: 50%.

Alex
12-05-09, 10:08 AM
For ALL:

This film is not captured from the game, but this is "3D engine demo" only...
So please without hard criticism...

Uh ? :06: :hmph: :p2: :hmmm:
It's the real game's engine, man.

quad5
12-05-09, 10:34 AM
Stop, and where green Atantichesky water?:shifty:

cjbeattie
12-05-09, 10:54 AM
wow looks fantastic but when i seen video i knew time for a new graphics card has come :cry: i only have a 256 card at present... it ran sh4 ok-ish but them screens look amazing!:o

dam anyone know the min as in price and spec 512 graphics card that will run this?

cj

HanSolo78
12-05-09, 11:23 AM
wow looks fantastic but when i seen video i knew time for a new graphics card has come :cry: i only have a 256 card at present... it ran sh4 ok-ish but them screens look amazing!:o

dam anyone know the min as in price and spec 512 graphics card that will run this?

cj

Yes! The official specs from the devs are 512Mb Card like NVidia 8800gt/9800gt or ATI 4850 512MB. will cost about 80€ at the moment and expected 60-65€ in march 2010 ;)

JU_88
12-05-09, 11:35 AM
Come on JU...pull yer socks up this was nearly into its second day when you posted it :doh:

You didn't have a swift half yesterday did you? :DL

Why didnt you post it here then? :hmmm:
yer lazy basum!:haha:

Wild_skipper
12-05-09, 11:47 AM
Stop, and where green Atantichesky water?:shifty:

Well since there are Italian ships in the ports i believe this is in the med not the atlantic :)

HanSolo78
12-05-09, 11:57 AM
Well since there are Italian ships in the ports i believe this is in the med not the atlantic :)

I do agree... I am very sure that this is La Spezia... if you compare with Sh3 ad the landscape you might also come to this conclusion.

Méo
12-05-09, 12:07 PM
Lot of criticism here... :hmmm:

Of course it will never be perfect (graphically speaking) and will always have work for modders.

The way i see it, the glass is half full. :yep:

Decoman
12-05-09, 12:19 PM
Was it possible to use in-game or forced antialiasing with SH3? I am curious if SH5 can be played with antialiasing.

I remember the bloom option but I can't remember if there was any antialiasing with SH3.

Having bought a radeon 5850 recently, using just a little antialising would be really nice I think

Platapus
12-05-09, 12:24 PM
Nice graphics.... I hope there are equal improvements in the simulation aspects of the game also.

There is more to a simulation than glitzy graphics

Although I know thats what sells video games. :nope:

Webster
12-05-09, 01:08 PM
But I disagree with you about rain. Water drops hit in your eyes directly or from splashes - you must protect your eyes by hand, wink (see by very thin gap) and you visibility is more hardly... so it is impossible to show this effects on your "real" face.

Do not be too critical.


im not being too critical, its only natural to point out a few things here and there.

the rain hitting your eyes doesnt mean you dont blink and you "see" water drops running across your eyeballs, this is my objection.

i have been at sea in pouring rain and i never saw water on my eyeballs, no matter how bad it got i kept my head at a downward angle and never looked up or a simple cap on my head blocked the rain from my eyeballs so i dont want to see that water on the screen from "every" view. if you wanted to have it when on bridge then i could say ok maybe your wearing goggles on the bridge to have it on that view but in a free cam look you shouldnt see it at all IMO.

as to my comments on ships breaking cleanly i should clarify that while its true the break has a small zig-zag edge to it, it is still pretty well straight where i would prefer to see it look more like a 45 degree angle or something. as someone said thou, its aparently very hard to do so i think what they have done is a big improvement over the old look of seperated sections.

Sailor Steve
12-05-09, 01:24 PM
the rain hitting your eyes doesnt mean you dont blink and you "see" water drops running across your eyeballs, this is my objection.
I've already swung back and forth on this issue a couple of times. I will commit myself to saying that I agree with WEBSTER. One of the cool effects in SH3 was the 'sheening' or water running off the periscope lens when it was first raised and anytime it dipped under the water in rough seas. One of the biggest complaints about SH4 was that same sheening effect applied to the external views. Also the wavy shimmery look when seen underwater. Great for a cartoon but not something you see in real life.

Back in SH2 some modder made a binocular view with some water drops. Not particularly realistic since they were 'frozen' in place, but still cool as that was the best that could be done at the time. These raindrops are indeed quite cool to see, but should only be on the periscope and binocular views, including UZO of course. They should not be on the external views.

Méo
12-05-09, 01:26 PM
Nice graphics.... I hope there are equal improvements in the simulation aspects of the game also.

There is more to a simulation than glitzy graphics

Yep, 100% agree.

Now that we've seen how SHV looks like, the big question from now on is the gameplay? (let's hope they've learned from SH4)

BTW, i wonder how much time it takes once they stop working on the game and between the time the game is on the store shelves?

Assuming it will be out in mid-march, how much time they got to continue their work? (is the game in a finished state and they are only testing it ???)

Denson
12-05-09, 02:09 PM
i don't get it. Why already bahing the 3D engine?

It looks like sh4 but improved, yes very IMPROVED.
Most defaults of sh3/4 engine were fixed and some new features are on the way.

I like the rain drops - it reminds me 3Dfx voodoo card and godlike NFS III [OT]

Now i hope for AI improvement. DD's sonar effectiveness affectes by deepts and range to U boat.

And i'd like to see a decoy like in old silent service II, u know throwing jackets, pictures afted a DC run to fool the DD your'e sunk + the normal fluid decoy already in SH3\4

Jimbuna
12-05-09, 02:15 PM
Why didnt you post it here then? :hmmm:
yer lazy basum!:haha:

I'm too busy guarding the real pictures...as well you know :DL:03:

THE_MASK
12-05-09, 02:18 PM
im not being too critical, its only natural to point out a few things here and there.

the rain hitting your eyes doesnt mean you dont blink and you "see" water drops running across your eyeballs, this is my objection.

i have been at sea in pouring rain and i never saw water on my eyeballs, no matter how bad it got i kept my head at a downward angle and never looked up or a simple cap on my head blocked the rain from my eyeballs so i dont want to see that water on the screen from "every" view. if you wanted to have it when on bridge then i could say ok maybe your wearing goggles on the bridge to have it on that view but in a free cam look you shouldnt see it at all IMO.

as to my comments on ships breaking cleanly i should clarify that while its true the break has a small zig-zag edge to it, it is still pretty well straight where i would prefer to see it look more like a 45 degree angle or something. as someone said thou, its aparently very hard to do so i think what they have done is a big improvement over the old look of seperated sections.Its the outcome it gives thats important . A bit harder too see in rain conditions and for immersion . I am sure you will be able to turn it off so whats the problem . Better to turn it off or mod it out for people that dont want it than not to have it at all . I think its great .

Malmer
12-05-09, 02:18 PM
Yep, 100% agree.

Now that we've seen how SHV looks like, the big question from now on is the gameplay? (let's hope they've learned from SH4)

BTW, i wonder how much time it takes once they stop working on the game and between the time the game is on the store shelves?

Assuming it will be out in mid-march, how much time they got to continue their work? (is the game in a finished state and they are only testing it ???)
It won't be out until September...






:woot:

Jimbuna
12-05-09, 02:18 PM
I've already swung back and forth on this issue a couple of times. I will commit myself to saying that I agree with WEBSTER. One of the cool effects in SH3 was the 'sheening' or water running off the periscope lens when it was first raised and anytime it dipped under the water in rough seas. One of the biggest complaints about SH4 was that same sheening effect applied to the external views. Also the wavy shimmery look when seen underwater. Great for a cartoon but not something you see in real life.

Back in SH2 some modder made a binocular view with some water drops. Not particularly realistic since they were 'frozen' in place, but still cool as that was the best that could be done at the time. These raindrops are indeed quite cool to see, but should only be on the periscope and binocular views, including UZO of course. They should not be on the external views.

Careful Steve....the mention of cartoon and SH4 in the same post has brought about some varied reactions from folk in the past :DL:03:

Sailor Steve
12-05-09, 03:35 PM
i don't get it. Why already bahing the 3D engine?
Not really bashing. I think it looks great, and from the replies so far so do most of us. The raindrops thing is just a minor quibble. It's not going to affect whether I buy the game - not by a long shot. But I still get to whine, don't I?

Sailor Steve
12-05-09, 03:38 PM
Careful Steve....the mention of cartoon and SH4 in the same post has brought about some varied reactions from folk in the past :DL:03:
And I'm the one who said SH4 didn't...:oops:

I didn't say it looked cartoonish - I just said that the wavy part looked like something you would see in a...

Ohhh, I got a bad feeling about this...Dan's gonna jump all over me. I'll be peelin' taters the rest of my born days.:cry::wah::rotfl2:

Jimbuna
12-05-09, 04:13 PM
And I'm the one who said SH4 didn't...:oops:

I didn't say it looked cartoonish - I just said that the wavy part looked like something you would see in a...

Ohhh, I got a bad feeling about this...Dan's gonna jump all over me. I'll be peelin' taters the rest of my born days.:cry::wah::rotfl2:

I guessed you'd figure it out :DL


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/18/img20060814215651mw4.gif

DanCanovas
12-05-09, 04:36 PM
very exciting! :yeah:

Jimbuna
12-05-09, 05:34 PM
very exciting! :yeah:

Long time no see/hear Dan :hmmm:

THE_MASK
12-05-09, 05:45 PM
The sequence in the submarine is obviously FREECAM and not FPS .

EgoApocalypse
12-05-09, 05:46 PM
SWEET!!!!..........................and looks like I got my lights in docks.:woot:

difool2
12-05-09, 05:52 PM
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You should know better than to quote all those pics again (to be kind to those with slow connections)...

JU_88
12-05-09, 05:59 PM
So much ado for eye candy.

Which is a problem - why? :06:

mookiemookie
12-05-09, 06:11 PM
Which is a problem - why? :06:

It's not. The video is doing exactly what Ubi marketing is intending it to do. Snazzy graphics create more buzz than a list of gameplay features. This shouldn't be taken as a sign that gameplay is being forsaken due to graphics....yet. We'll have to see what comes on release day.

Webster
12-05-09, 06:12 PM
Its the outcome it gives thats important . A bit harder too see in rain conditions and for immersion . I am sure you will be able to turn it off so whats the problem . Better to turn it off or mod it out for people that dont want it than not to have it at all . I think its great .

i never said not to have it at all, quite to the contrary im thrilled to have it and its great but i do not want to see it for the free cam view, thats all.

TarJak
12-05-09, 06:39 PM
I'm with Webster and Steve. This is one of those minor things that will piss off some people but not others. For me it is about taking screenshots. I don't want water droplets all over my screenies so all I want is the ability to remove the sheening effect from free cam. I'm more than happy for it to be there on binoculars, UZO and periscope views because that is where these effects would exist in RL.

karamazovnew
12-05-09, 06:49 PM
C'mon guys stop crying about the water drops. If the camera config file will resemble the cameras.dat file of SH4, you'll be able to delete the CamerEffects node and take all the screenies you want :D

John Channing
12-05-09, 06:58 PM
I'm with Webster and Steve. This is one of those minor things that will piss off some people but not others. For me it is about taking screenshots. I don't want water droplets all over my screenies so all I want is the ability to remove the sheening effect from free cam. I'm more than happy for it to be there on binoculars, UZO and periscope views because that is where these effects would exist in RL.

Clearly you don't wear glasses!

JCC

THE_MASK
12-05-09, 07:43 PM
i never said not to have it at all, quite to the contrary im thrilled to have it and its great but i do not want to see it for the free cam view, thats all.
Your the main fixer , so i will be waiting for your SH5 fixers .

SubV
12-05-09, 10:47 PM
C'mon guys, don't you see that? The graphic engine is EXACTLY the same that was used in SH4, with an addition of god rays, bloom and HDR.

Same plankton as that we seen in Indian Ocean, same 'oily' water with quite unrealistic look. From my POV, nothing major was improved in 3D engine since SH4.

And I must say, these beautiful promo screenshots differ from real 3D engine video too much.

Webster
12-05-09, 10:56 PM
Your the main fixer , so i will be waiting for your SH5 fixers .


famous last words i know, but i dont think i will do much modding for sh5

TarJak
12-06-09, 01:18 AM
C'mon guys stop crying about the water drops. If the camera config file will resemble the cameras.dat file of SH4, you'll be able to delete the CamerEffects node and take all the screenies you want :D
I'm far from crying about it. Simply stating my likes or dislikes of what I've seen just like every other bugger here. I'd prefer not to have to mod the thing out if it was posible simply to drop it from the config screen. If not then it will get modded out for those that don't like it. I'm more than happy for the effect to be there in the right context, just not the FP or external cameras.

Clearly you don't wear glasses!

JCC
Correct, I never have; except sunglasses, but those, not very often in the rain.:D

quad5
12-06-09, 01:50 AM
C'mon guys, don't you see that? The graphic engine is EXACTLY the same that was used in SH4, with an addition of god rays, bloom and HDR.

Same plankton as that we seen in Indian Ocean, same 'oily' water with quite unrealistic look. From my POV, nothing major was improved in 3D engine since SH4.

And I must say, these beautiful promo screenshots differ from real 3D engine video too much.

That's it!:up:

Adriatico
12-06-09, 02:40 AM
It's not that bad to have SH4 improved engine... SH4 was not bad graphic engine - but sort of unpolished one, with lot of space for improvement

3D fire, smoke and clouds would be "main homework" for a sim to be played 2010 - 2014...

Still waiting to see storm waves video...
:hmmm:

JScones
12-06-09, 04:05 AM
Dont matter, You wil get swastikas, as they can be modded in - in about 15 minutes (by virtually anyone)
Export DDS files to Photoshop, copy and paste, save, re-import back to SHV & Done!
IMHO there are much bigger things to worry about.
Not even that - if it's anything like SH3 then all one needs to do is delete the "censored" image files from the textures folder and voila...the uncensored images stored in the .dat files automatically display.

It is gorgeous, though. At first I was a tiny bit unhappy that the rain left drops on the screen. On the periscope and binoculars, sure, but not on my eyes. Now that I've looked at it a few times I notice that it doesn't stay there long, and it really is kind of cool.
It is kinda "glass screen in front of the eyes", but I guess it's hard to simulate rain in the eyes otherwise - so I don't mind it. Besides, I remember from my military days how annoying and distracting rain in the face could be. And now I wear glasses, it's even more annoying.

In any event, if it's not an option of some sort then it will take a modder about 10 minutes to remove. :up:

PL_Andrev
12-06-09, 04:40 AM
The good news is that the graphics engine is already made. In such a case currently underway to work on improving game mechanics and (I hope) eliminating big bugs.
:yeah:


and - I hope - bugs known on SH3/ SH4...
:smug:

Decoman
12-06-09, 05:20 AM
I thought the water drops on the screen was a nice touch. It seem obvious to me that this effect is not made for sake of realism, but for the gameplay.

The General
12-06-09, 06:28 AM
It's not that bad to have SH4 improved engine... SH4 was not bad graphic engine.Sh4's engine is very inefficient in terms of it's use of system resources and has lots of flaws. I am currently playing DCS's Blackshark (Russian helicopter sim, it's amazing!), it's much more advanced graphically (it should be, it came out this year!) than SH4 but runs much more smoothly. If they've simply tacked-on yet more graphic tweeks like; post-processing filters, bloom, volumetric fog, light-rays etc. without a major software rewrite, then it's gonna run really badly on all but a super-computer. There was talk some time back of te Devs dowing a major rewrite of the engine, so it could be ok :hmmm:

Navarre
12-06-09, 06:49 AM
C'mon guys, don't you see that? The graphic engine is EXACTLY the same that was used in SH4, with an addition of god rays, bloom and HDR.
What did you expect, a complete new graphics engine?

The Ubisoft studio in Romania, uses for all their games, the game engine called 3D GDS System.

Reece
12-06-09, 07:25 AM
I'm with Webster and Steve. This is one of those minor things that will piss off some people but not others. For me it is about taking screenshots. I don't want water droplets all over my screenies so all I want is the ability to remove the sheening effect from free cam. I'm more than happy for it to be there on binoculars, UZO and periscope views because that is where these effects would exist in RL.Agree 100%:yep:

karamazovnew
12-06-09, 07:58 AM
I don't get it... "It has water, it has ships, hey! it's the SH4 engine WTF?!!!". C'mon guys ofc it will look similar at some aspects. But the clouds, the terrain, those are new. You can't blame it all on HDR and light shafts. It looks damn good :shucks:

Kaleun_Endrass
12-06-09, 08:17 AM
Did anyone found versions of the new screenshots in higher resolution then in this thread that aren't so heavy compressed like these http://www.pcgames.de/m,browser/Bildergalerie/?entity_id=218712 ?

Kaleun_Endrass
12-06-09, 08:26 AM
I don't get it... "It has water, it has ships, hey! it's the SH4 engine WTF?!!!". C'mon guys ofc it will look similar at some aspects. But the clouds, the terrain, those are new. You can't blame it all on HDR and light shafts. It looks damn good :shucks:
Agree 100%... The terrain looks very good. The volumetric clouds look stunning. Can't wait to get my hands on it. The water color and underwater view need to be tweaked but the basics are excellent.

Tomi_099
12-06-09, 08:31 AM
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7015/battlestationmidwaypinu.jpg

I don't get it... "It has water, it has ships, hey! it's the SH4 engine WTF?!!!". C'mon guys ofc it will look similar at some aspects. But the clouds, the terrain, those are new. You can't blame it all on HDR and light shafts. It looks damn good :shucks:
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> It looks damn good <:up:

Yes, my friend, it become really good. Please do not forget that it is here mainly to Engin and second places to look at it.
When Engin the promise that so you can still add half performance.
Emitting need to optimize the UBIS it all yet.
And as a whole,
I think that can be described this project as successful.:yeah:

But damn, I still like the SNOW had experienced.:hmmm:

http://www.psd-tutorials.de/images/membertutorials/1174-big.gif

... An absolute renewal!
( A diesel mechanic at the place of the leaking valves Fixed! )
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2158/mvc013f19.jpg
und SO ETWAS ( wenn Frensen Pfurtzt ( Zitat : Das Boot ( Film )

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4508/030808n0000x0019cu.jpg
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...or ..
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Engin from the seagulls where the Z axis goes into the minus (twisted)
http://www.greenpeace.de/typo3temp/GB/879765bb12.jpg


..


Or I have no patience yet!... ... ... .. . .. ..!!

... SORRY !!!

...I'm going back to my work!..

... Look This !!

.http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3778/33013965.jpg


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http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6341/89066216.jpg



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All this is possible !!
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sergbuto
12-06-09, 01:40 PM
Sh4's engine is very inefficient in terms of it's use of system resources and has lots of flaws. I am currently playing DCS's Blackshark (Russian helicopter sim, it's amazing!), it's much more advanced graphically (it should be, it came out this year!) than SH4 but runs much more smoothly. If they've simply tacked-on yet more graphic tweeks like; post-processing filters, bloom, volumetric fog, light-rays etc. without a major software rewrite, then it's gonna run really badly on all but a super-computer. There was talk some time back of te Devs dowing a major rewrite of the engine, so it could be ok :hmmm:

I think that devs have chosen not the best 3D-engine-design ideas for SH4 and consequently for SH5 in terms of graphics representation and 3D model, environment renderings versus optimal use of computer resources. When compared with some other games, SH4 is by far not a winner in this respect while it even lacks some things, such as very-high-poly water, dynamic shadows, etc. However, it is probably not easy to rewrite the 3D engine completely for every new sequel.

Webchessie
12-06-09, 01:49 PM
Great start and a nice tease during the holidays. Hopefully UBI will be working on offering us a "bug free" game that will satisfy those who love eye candy and those who love realism.

InFlames666
12-06-09, 03:27 PM
well i just jizzed my pants, can't wait to be running around the sub to prep for an attack.

one thing i noted tho, looks like you can see pritty far under water.

Jimbuna
12-06-09, 03:53 PM
It's not. The video is doing exactly what Ubi marketing is intending it to do. Snazzy graphics create more buzz than a list of gameplay features. This shouldn't be taken as a sign that gameplay is being forsaken due to graphics....yet. We'll have to see what comes on release day.

Precisely http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

TDK1044
12-06-09, 03:56 PM
Silent Hunter V appears to be in much better shape prior to its release than either SHIII or SHIV.

I think the Devs have learned valuable lessons from the earlier versions of the game. We have to understand though that no game/sim can be all things to all people, and we also have to factor in the non negotiable demands undoubtedly put on the Devs by Ubisoft.

Put all of this together and what have you got? I think what we have is a high quality sim that will be a lot of fun to play whether you are a novice or an expert.

I'm sure that it will require patching, but I think it will be much more playable at release than either III or IV.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He's currently playing with his SHV Beta while his elves continue to work hard on the game in Bucharest.

The rest of us will have to wait until March to play the game. :DL

Able72
12-06-09, 05:42 PM
Wow, the eye candy is fantastic. I agree with another poster, I hope they are working as hard on the game play as they have obviously done on the eye candy so far.

I also hope that Ubi will make this game easy to mod so we can quickly and easily add the historically accurate markings for all ships and aircraft.

CDR Resser
12-06-09, 09:09 PM
I am very impressed with what I see so far. It looks quite promising. Hopefully it will be successful enough for UBI to contemplate a similar treatment for the Pacific. I will most certainly be purchasing.

Respectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

Lord Justice
12-06-09, 10:21 PM
Utter brilliance, cannae wait, just hope certain blah blah fixed, but tell you what troops, if the sim play is on par wae all this razz, then iam personally going to buy the train tickets for the wife and kids and send them down too england to vist relatives for a week. why drive when i could be leaving port waiting for the delivery boy with ma dinner to cut dow time. to sum it up, Ya Dancer:D

PL_Andrev
12-07-09, 03:16 AM
The game engine is not perfect but it is not so bad. We have not seen a large warships, and announced '3D water effect deformation'. There were no effects of explosive torpedoes, depth charges, mines.
Thing more important than water appearance is game's modability (see water in the TDM 1.9)

Even the best graphics does not help if the mechanics are badly done or full of bugs (of course I do not believe that I get a game with no bugs, but I hope that UBI will not duplicate those known from the previous parts).

One last thing: gameplay - essential for good playing (see the excerpt from the film, when the captain attempts to go after swinging ship), the attacks on the surface, short waiting time to find another target, stress free and enjoyable game in multiplayer mode...

jaxa
12-07-09, 08:09 AM
These screenshots look amazing :o
I have to save money for new GPU & CPU :hmmm:

Uber Gruber
12-07-09, 08:56 AM
As a demo of the 3D engine I have to say i'm not as jumping up and down as some here. I like the idea of volumetric clouds but have sad memories of how fog was implemented in SH4. I hate the sun shadow effects - they look really Naff, and I see the water tileing problem is still there which is a real immersion killer. How can one feel he is at sea when the sea is like a patchwork quilt ?

I don't actually see much difference between SH4 and this engine to be honest. And I suspect a lot of the extra graphical features, such as ice build up, will be binary - i.e. on or off.

It does look a little less like a comic book now, but only a little.

Still, it's early days.

Now let UBI tell us about the NEW features in SH5.....and no more of this "well we'd like to implement that well sought after feature called Wolfpacks but, you know, were busy making the sun turn the right shade of pale at the moment".

JUST SAY NO TO MORE OF THE SAME:arrgh!::arrgh!:

Zoomer96
12-07-09, 09:54 AM
I think the game is looking just great! Can't wait for it to get released! I, too will be purchasing SH5 when it comes out!! Come On Ubisoft!! Give us some more!!! I'd like to see a Patrol Video, man! I mean things are looking good over at the Silent Hunter Studio!!! Seriously guys it is looking fantastic!!

kapitan_zur_see
12-07-09, 10:04 AM
Graphics are a mixed bags of up and downs, I'd say...
It sure looks pretty good so far, but I cannot say I'm this impressed. Just as I guessed earlier prior to this news, it's basically too much of SH4 engine coupled with nice shader effects. Now volumetric clouds and all, with higher polygon res, I still like it a lot as I consider graphics and depicting of weather effects to be an at least 50% immersion factor. Now since water looks so close to SH4, I'm a bit worried with how larger waves during storm and the like will be shown... SH4 water modded already looks very good at 4knot windspeed, but anything higher and it looked pretty crappy and highly unrealistic. So basically, one sea state was mastered as modelling a stormy ocean is pretty difficult (it's not just about larger waves but foams and etc.).

Coast line & harbors is a massive improvement, no doubt about it, well done dev! just remember we spend 90% time in open ocean, 10% in coast line ;). But very nice job!

The interior looks certainly a bit behind, looks very much like in SH3/4, though better because of dynamic lights and shadows but lacks in details compared to exterior (probably due to optimization, mind you). And I fear it's gonna be less lively than in the trailer (though of course ,this one is probably entirely scripted, animations wise...), especially since there seems to be only officers modelled. But can't really judge so far...

The shaders such as sun god rays, rain drops and etc. I'm quite pleased with! It sure doesn't really looks "realistic" but who should care as long as it fits in and looks nicer!

I hope it's gonna be highly moddable though, especially shaders wise, as underwater still looks ridiculously way behind what can be done today! it's almost exact copy of SH4!! :damn: it's also a submarine game, you know, and subs goes underwater... :nope:
Perfect clear, no good looking impurity particles coupled with depth of fields (they're even still that horrible greenish color lol), bottom of the ocean still looks like crap, and damn that horrible gradient edges in the background!!!! still there!!! It's still way behind those PHOTOSHOPED SH4 underwater pictures... Volumetric fog should be used underwater to mimic how lights goes through water, it doesn't follow a perfectly horizontaly gradient aligned path :nope: We'll have work to attend to! :salute:

All in all, I really like the improvement on atmosphere,still.

TDK1044
12-07-09, 10:21 AM
One man's treasure is another man's trash. It's all so subjective.

I just want the game to be finished when they release it, and less buggy than previous versions.

Seeadler
12-07-09, 10:49 AM
Ships are moored at the pier, but still have bow waves :cool:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3036336166393939.jpg

PL_Andrev
12-07-09, 12:11 PM
Ships are moored at the pier, but still have bow waves :cool:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1680_3036336166393939.jpg

RIGHT!
What the hell is this?


@ Seeadler
Very very thanks for identification this bug!
If more bugs we find now, the less will be in the final version, I hope.
Or I go back to SH3.
:down:

mookiemookie
12-07-09, 12:23 PM
And it begins already. :roll:

PL_Andrev
12-07-09, 12:48 PM
And it begins already. :roll:

Give them chance! Give them chance!

This is only 'SH5 engine demonstration' (bugs included), not 'final SH5 demonstration'...
:D

tonschk
12-07-09, 03:10 PM
Yes ,I can see the Dynamic Shadows , congratulation Well done UBISOFT
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/shadowok.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/shadowok-1.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/shadowok-2.jpg

Lord Justice
12-07-09, 06:40 PM
[quote=Seeadler;1215108]Ships are moored at the pier, but still have bow waves. Bravo old chap, splendid observation, but one does begin to anguish, i implore such error be ammended.:down:

Reece
12-07-09, 07:06 PM
We must remember it's still 4 months or more from release day, I don't think the same bugs will be present (just a new lot!:haha:), they do read our posts and note things, maybe it would be a good idea for someone to post a "Bugs found so far" thread and have it stickied for the Devs to peruse!:yep:

The General
12-07-09, 07:12 PM
Silent Hunter V appears to be in much better shape prior to its release than either SHIII or SHIV.Um, that's 'cos SH5 is based on the SH3 engine, which is roughly 6 years old. Plenty of time to get things ready doncha think? :hmmm:

Webster
12-07-09, 07:14 PM
and did anyone notice the splash from the bird crap went in the wrong direction the wind was blowing
:o:o:o OMG !

like reece and antar said we must remember these are early clips from an unfinished game at god knows how many different stages of developement depending on the files being worked on at the time. :yep:

hey, i'm guilty of nitpicking too but lets do it while giving ubi the benefit of the doubt that these minor issues will all be fixed.

we should look at the totality of it in general overall picture and its way too early to stress over bow waves on docked ships that can be very easy to fix.

THE_MASK
12-07-09, 07:37 PM
and did anyone notice the splash from the bird crap went in the wrong direction the wind was blowing
:o:o:o OMG !

like reece and antar said we must remember these are early clips from an unfinished game at god knows how many different stages of developement depending on the files being worked on at the time. :yep:

hey, i'm guilty of nitpicking too but lets do it while giving ubi the benefit of the doubt that these minor issues will all be fixed.

we should look at the totality of it in general overall picture and its way too early to stress over bow waves on docked ships that can be very easy to fix. You know the old , once bitten twice shy . However one should not be critical of a game until release , then go for it .

Seeadler
12-07-09, 09:25 PM
Um, that's 'cos SH5 is based on the SH3 engine

see here:
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,63104/

I assume the 3D GDS System was also used for SH4.
I know it was used for the action flight game HAWX and perhabs also for SH5, because why should they reinvent the wheel again and again?
The engine seems to be so flexible that you can in parts customize and expand it for each game.

misfitdreamer
12-08-09, 12:58 AM
i don't know what you guys are thinking. sh5's water looks leaps and bounds better than sh4's - particularly in the rendering and modeling of waves. i'm sure it will continue to improve also, and those graphical nuances will be tweaked too. for the gameplay we will have to wait.. but if this is to be the heir to sh3 i have high hope.

Kaleun_Endrass
12-08-09, 02:32 AM
maybe it would be a good idea for someone to post a "Bugs found so far" thread and have it stickied for the Devs to peruse!:yep:
I started one here http://174.133.66.250/radioroom/showthread.php?t=157134

TDK1044
12-08-09, 06:28 AM
Um, that's 'cos SH5 is based on the SH3 engine, which is roughly 6 years old. Plenty of time to get things ready doncha think? :hmmm:

I don't care if it's based on the declaration of independence. I want it to work out of the box and look great.

Sky999
12-08-09, 08:52 AM
I don't care if it's based on the declaration of independence. I want it to work out of the box and look great.

Exactly.

Arclight
12-08-09, 09:36 AM
From what I understand it's a brand new engine. All they did was maintain the familiar file-structure, so modders will be able to find their way around easily.

But yeah, would be nice if it worked out of the box. :yep:

PL_Andrev
12-08-09, 09:53 AM
Um, that's 'cos SH5 is based on the SH3 engine, which is roughly 6 years old. Plenty of time to get things ready doncha think? :hmmm:

:rotfl2:
GPU and CPU are now more opportunities than 6 years ago.
Efficienty of cards designed for SH3 were 10x less than today...

OG Hase
12-08-09, 10:32 AM
That new trailer is mouthwatering! :salute: Really I'm awaiting a real cool game at this point - and if it will be modable then - that would be it! :woot: God how I'm looking forward on that game ! :yeah: :rock: But a new graphic-card will be needed or do ya think my 8800 GTX will do!? :hmmm:

Arclight
12-08-09, 10:51 AM
Yes, a GTX will do nicely.

Honestly, any game that needs more than a 8800GT to run decently is gonna fail, just because everyone would need to upgrade. :nope:

Kaleun_Endrass
12-08-09, 01:48 PM
do ya think my 8800 GTX will do!? :hmmm:
I guess you'll be fine with your GTX and SH5 if you're not aiming fullHD and max details and full AA + AF. I've got a XFX GTX O.C. version and won't upgrade just in case.

Archangel
12-08-09, 02:49 PM
Sigh, my Ubisoft boycott will be temporarly lifted for this game as there is no way that I would want to miss this, it looks great.

longam
12-08-09, 05:07 PM
Yes, a GTX will do nicely.

Honestly, any game that needs more than a 8800GT to run decently is gonna fail, just because everyone would need to upgrade. :nope:

New features will always need a newer GPU and drivers that are developed to show these new technologies. Other then that you can still run the game just with lower settings. If you video card is real old, its safe to say that your system could be the same.

It will always be the catch game in the PC world and DriectX

mw2000
12-08-09, 06:00 PM
Can I run the game with these specs on low settings?

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
320GB IDE hard drive
256MB 7600GT graphics
400W Emermax PSU
Vista Home Premium x86 SP2

Lord Justice
12-08-09, 06:07 PM
It is not my intention to the bearer of bad news, but i suggest you upgrade sorry my friend.

Reece
12-08-09, 09:11 PM
Can I run the game with these specs on low settings?

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
320GB IDE hard drive
256MB 7600GT graphics
400W Emermax PSU
Vista Home Premium x86 SP2I'm not sure of your motherboard but you may be able to upgrade your CPU to something like mine (AMD X2 550 Phenom II), my CPU clock speed is 3.8ghz, check your manufacturer for a bios update assuming your board can take AM2+ processors, also up your ram to 4gb and your graphics card to a 512mb. Hmm might actually be better to upgrade to a new system as 4Para suggests!:hmmm:

InFlames666
12-08-09, 09:43 PM
Can I run the game with these specs on low settings?

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
320GB IDE hard drive
256MB 7600GT graphics
400W Emermax PSU
Vista Home Premium x86 SP2

you i would beef up your gpu, and if you do that you most likely going to need a higher out put power sup.
but you cpu and ram will pass as long as you keep most the settings on low

Lord Justice
12-08-09, 10:53 PM
you i would beef up your gpu, and if you do that you most likely going to need a higher out put power sup.
but you cpu and ram will pass as long as you keep most the settings on low How extraordinary, i assure you this may still have dire results. Is motherboard up to par? will the older cpu and ram have a decent data transfer rate? no sir i do believe they will still create some slower bottlneck, therefor lagging the cards full potential, even with the card easing some of the burden off the cpu. What speed are the older ram modules? :hmmm:

Méo
12-09-09, 12:29 AM
Sigh, my Ubisoft boycott will be temporarly lifted for this game as there is no way that I would want to miss this, it looks great.

I know a lot of people feel the same as you do.

Even for myself, i'm not sure if i would keep such interest in SHV if it would have been only of vanilla SH3 with few patches released by UBI.

All mods made by the GWX Team through the years really gave a new breath to SH3 and largely contributed to the success of the game & expansion of the community, IMHO.

I think a lot of people feel the same as i do, the excitement & anticipation of SHV is in part due to the modding community and particularly to the GWX Team.


I've said it before and i'll say it again:

THANK YOU ALL GUYS!!! :salute:

Arclight
12-09-09, 01:07 AM
New features will always need a newer GPU and drivers that are developed to show these new technologies. Other then that you can still run the game just with lower settings. If you video card is real old, its safe to say that your system could be the same.

It will always be the catch game in the PC world and DriectX
Well of course, but at this particular point in time a 8800GT should still do nicely. :yep:

My GTS512 still allows me to run, for example, Dragon Age maxed out. Admittedly, it's a game designed to run on consoles as well, so it isn't the most graphically demanding. But I'm confident this card will last another 6-12 months, at least, giving very decent performance. I haven't seen a game yet that I have to run with everything set to medium.

Though that might change with SH5, apparently, perhaps. :hmmm:

JScones
12-09-09, 01:42 AM
Do we have to turn every thread into a "will my computer run SH5?". Don't we have a sticky to avoid this? :hmmm:

Méo
12-09-09, 01:54 AM
Do we have to turn every thread into a "will my computer run SH5?". Don't we have a sticky to avoid this? :hmmm:

I rarely do, but I agree with you on this.

Arclight
12-09-09, 02:48 AM
You're right, wild speculation about possible bugs in an unreleased game in it's beta stage is so much better. :D

JScones
12-09-09, 04:17 AM
You're right, wild speculation about possible bugs in an unreleased game in it's beta stage is so much better. :D
Do we have to turn every thread into an SH5 bug fest? We already have this dedicated bug thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=157134). :O:

:D

Arclight
12-09-09, 04:19 AM
:rotfl2:

:salute:

PL_Andrev
12-09-09, 05:02 AM
Even for myself, i'm not sure if i would keep such interest in SHV if it would have been only of vanilla SH3 with few patches released by UBI.

All mods made by the GWX Team through the years really gave a new breath to SH3 and largely contributed to the success of the game & expansion of the community, IMHO.

:up::up::up:
That's right:
What condition must have a game that was extremely popular?
- highly modable
- heavy bugs free
- mission editor
- no paid patches

All these things = success of SHV

sav112
12-09-09, 07:36 AM
No offence to everyone who posted views etc, but could we not delete every post except the main one on this thread and only have it for new media and not comments that we have all read before and wont influence anyone.:yawn:

Cheers

oscar19681
12-09-09, 11:42 AM
Do we have to turn every thread into a "will my computer run SH5?". Don't we have a sticky to avoid this? :hmmm:

I was wondering will this run sh-5 with all settings to max?

http://mybroadband.co.za/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/old_computer.jpg

Vader 1
12-09-09, 02:42 PM
No offence to everyone who posted views etc, but could we not delete every post except the main one on this thread and only have it for new media and not comments that we have all read before and wont influence anyone.:yawn:

Cheers
Here here:yeah:

Vader

Chef
12-09-09, 08:12 PM
I was wondering will this run sh-5 with all settings to max?

http://mybroadband.co.za/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/old_computer.jpg
I don't know, how many gigs are the two steering wheels? :D

Brag
12-10-09, 03:38 PM
This looks pretty satisfactory :DL

Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic 3D Engine Video | GameShadow.com (http://www.gameshadow.com/gamepedia/11481b/silent_hunter_5_battle_of_the_atlantic/trailers/silent_hunter_5_battle_of_the_atlantic_3d_engine_v ideo/?utm_source=nl131&utm_medium=email&utm_content=top&utm_campaign=newsletter&newsletter=131)



The original UBI video: http://ubitv.de.ubi.com/?vid=601 (http://ubitv.de.ubi.com/?vid=601)

Undefined
12-10-09, 03:46 PM
Holy ****balls! DAMN! Especially 2:02 ..

Early 2010 !!! Yayy!!!1

GoldenRivet
12-10-09, 03:46 PM
Brag... you're a day late and a dollar short... but We love you anyway.

Brag
12-10-09, 03:51 PM
Brag... you're a day late and a dollar short... but We love you anyway.

:stare:Ummm, sort of bummeroony. Grease the torpedoes anyway :cool:

kapitan_zur_see
12-10-09, 05:18 PM
Do we have to turn every thread into a "will my computer run SH5?". Don't we have a sticky to avoid this? :hmmm:

Damn if I agree on that one!!
Especially if we can avoid the inevitable morons that like to show off, those we often find during these... you know the type:

"Pleaaaaze, Can i run the game at least at medium?
quad-core
2x Crossfire HD 5870 2gb
6GB
2 terrabyte hard drive
bla bla..."

Hate those lol :damn:


Once and for all! whatever...
It was designed to run max on a TO7, so stop asking if it will on every thread except on the stickied one!! :O:
definite proof:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/47/to72.jpg

trashman
12-10-09, 08:05 PM
I don't know, how many gigs are the two steering wheels? :D

Where do you Plug in the mouse:damn:

TarJak
12-10-09, 08:39 PM
Bummeroony!:har:

looney
12-11-09, 03:06 AM
Bohooo my rig wont run that I reccon :(

Rothwell white
12-11-09, 03:37 AM
Wow that looks brill

sav112
12-11-09, 04:48 AM
Booooooo I thought it was a new one:down::down::down:

karamazovnew
12-11-09, 05:23 AM
Where do you Plug in the mouse:damn:

Wireless... duh.

Alex
12-11-09, 05:48 AM
@ kapitan_zur_see : Haha ! :haha: :D

JU_88
12-11-09, 07:38 AM
Damn if I agree on that one!!
Especially if we can avoid the inevitable morons that like to show off, those we often find during these... you know the type:

"Pleaaaaze, Can i run the game at least at medium?
quad-core
2x Crossfire HD 5870 2gb
6GB
2 terrabyte hard drive
bla bla..."

Hate those lol :damn:


Once and for all! whatever...
It was designed to run max on a TO7, so stop asking if it will on every thread except on the stickied one!! :O:
definite proof:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/47/to72.jpg


LOL SHV Loading: "please insert tape cassette 24,803 side A" :rock:

Yeah I hate the attention seeking show offs too, its as if they want people to say somthing like:
'Oh SHV will fly on your Monster of PC!, In addition you must have a very large penis
and we all want to be best friend"
:D

Kaleun Klink
12-11-09, 02:30 PM
I'm disappointed: No footage of the cook's soup! I want to know how well the chunks of sausage will render! Will we see the globules of oil on the soup's surface?!


Apart from that omission: :rock:.

Undefined
12-11-09, 02:41 PM
I'd really like to try that soup on early 2010. I just cant wait to taste it.

Sailor Steve
12-11-09, 04:32 PM
Please, will THIS run SH5 for me?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/3319730327/

Webster
12-11-09, 04:39 PM
Please, will THIS run SH5 for me?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/3319730327/

sorry but no, not without a major upgrade of the whole system and at least two hooters girls working round the clock keeping it polished and shiny

Sailor Steve
12-11-09, 04:41 PM
hooters girls
Is that a free download or do I have to pay for that 'patch'?

Webster
12-11-09, 04:43 PM
Is that a free download or do I have to pay for that 'patch'?

that depends on weather your a friend of tiger woods or not :D

Sailor Steve
12-11-09, 04:46 PM
that depends on weather your a friend of tiger woods or not :D
:o:rotfl2:

kapitan_zur_see
12-11-09, 06:04 PM
Please, will THIS run SH5 for me?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brewbooks/3319730327/

No... they obviously ommited to put a screen and a video in on that rig...
Better luck next time! That's how you waste lots of money :haha:
Or it's supposed to run SHV version for the blind-hearing-impaired-handless-people :)

sav112
12-11-09, 07:15 PM
No... they obviously ommited to put a screen and a video in on that rig...
Better luck next time! That's how you waste lots of money :haha:
Or it's supposed to run SHV version for the blind-hearing-impaired-handless-people :)


See your missing the point, its that much of a Super Computer it just plays the game for you and tells you if you would have had a good time.:yeah:

conus00
12-11-09, 07:59 PM
The screen shots in the post #1, does anybody know about link to their hi-res versions?

arkroyal
12-12-09, 04:24 AM
:)Just watched the Video WOW!!!!!!!!!! can'nt wait for the real thing,
Let's hope it's very soon:up:

klh
12-12-09, 08:10 AM
It looks like I'll be needing a new PC soon. :D

kriller2
12-12-09, 01:53 PM
Video looks good, nice work devs! :salute:

Sailor Steve
12-12-09, 03:24 PM
No... they obviously ommited to put a screen and a video in on that rig...
Better luck next time! That's how you waste lots of money :haha:
Or it's supposed to run SHV version for the blind-hearing-impaired-handless-people :)
:rotfl2:

See your missing the point, its that much of a Super Computer it just plays the game for you and tells you if you would have had a good time.:yeah:
:rotfl2::rotfl2:

I was just going to go for "No, it plugs directly into your brain and makes you feel like you're really there".

I like yours better.:rock:

Gabucino
12-12-09, 04:28 PM
Okay, now this was really something.

Bartolomeus
12-13-09, 01:40 PM
Great video! The graphic looks awesome!

kvbrock82
12-15-09, 12:06 PM
i see the reason for me to upgrade my computer heavily has finally come along.. :yeah:

vgautham_91
12-15-09, 04:21 PM
Just hoping to see the game released on time:yep:

kemeri
12-15-09, 04:26 PM
Just hoping to see the game released on time:yep:

And I hope it will be delayed ... :cool:

V.C. Sniper
12-15-09, 08:50 PM
Just hoping to see the game released on time:yep:
but then there will be a load of bugs and not enough 1337 features

Hanomag
12-16-09, 05:42 PM
It looks fantastic..I really cant wait!!! :arrgh!:

Myxale
12-17-09, 09:02 AM
Talk about sharpening the appetite! :rock:

Uber Gruber
12-17-09, 09:03 AM
but then there will be a load of bugs and not enough 1337 features

:rotfl2::stare::rotfl2:

PL_Andrev
12-17-09, 02:23 PM
Hey, where is Markus????
Trailer on SH5 main UBI site (www.silenthunter5.com) was changed. Soup scene deleted...
:woot:

totodog
12-17-09, 03:14 PM
I took a look at that new trailer and compared it to the old one, and they improved a lot of stuff with it. It looks better, and it demonstrates the new graphics engine. Compare it yourself with a youtube video of the old one.

Phoenix3000
12-17-09, 04:33 PM
Hi guys,

I'm just wondering (and hoping) if the animated characters we see in the new trailer will exist in the sub when walking through it's length?

It would be nice to have crewmen walk through the command room, or go running to the fore torp room when crash diving.

I've not posted in the SH5 forums yet, but I was interested after seeing that new trailer.

Cheers all! :up:

Px3000

FIREWALL
12-17-09, 04:44 PM
This is my power supply :http://www.nukeworker.com/pictures/displayimage-136-6.html


Or do you think I need a bigger one for SHV ?

zepo
12-17-09, 04:46 PM
I just don't know if i want an early release with some bugs just to take a taste before some patches-mods etc fix the problems ,or a late release (1 or 2 months later) with almost no bugs at all....:damn:.The only thing that i am certain is that i cannot wait!!!!!!!!!

Jimbuna
12-17-09, 05:49 PM
This is my power supply :http://www.nukeworker.com/pictures/displayimage-136-6.html


Or do you think I need a bigger one for SHV ?

You might want to get a spare...just in case :hmmm:

badaboom
12-17-09, 07:05 PM
Lookin good!!!

Uber Gruber
12-18-09, 08:37 AM
I wish they would replace the US actors with UK ones, or at least tone down the corny script.

Sgtmonkeynads
12-18-09, 08:48 AM
Cool. I sounded like R. Lee Ermey there for a second. probably just a generic "Guy shouting ordders"

Sky999
12-18-09, 02:23 PM
I wish they would replace the US actors with UK ones, or at least tone down the corny script.

Lol I know what you mean....

'Hell no!'

:-?

It made me cringe.

gimpy117
12-18-09, 05:11 PM
i can already see my radeon starting to sweat.

those drain holes better be modeled this time around...with 2,000,000 polys :shifty:

Elder-Pirate
12-18-09, 05:51 PM
OH GEE thanks UBI, now I have to change the tires,overhaul the engine,put in a new heavy duty transmission, new rear end, etc.............well OK at least all new computer parts.:D

Man this computer will have to really rock now judging by those videos.

Outstanding UBI SH5 Devs. :yeah: :salute: :woot:

brett25
12-22-09, 03:57 AM
the day this game comes out is the day i'll be gettin' it

Gotmilk
12-23-09, 11:45 AM
http://gamervision.com/gamer/coop/blog/article/preview_silent_hunter_5

Arclight
12-23-09, 12:20 PM
http://gamervision.com/gamer/coop/blog/article/preview_silent_hunter_5
Thanks! :salute:

Fire
12-23-09, 12:33 PM
Uh oh. This Preview doesn't sound good.

At first he speaks from the simulation aspect, and then this:

[...]An easily understandable radar shows off the exact range of opponents' views, and while it might look like a convenient gameplay element, the basics are grounded in reality. Go too fast and the engines are loud, allowing enemy ships to easily locate the sub. Rise up to the surface, and the scouts standing atop the ships might actually be able to see you with their bare eyes.[...]

This is cheating, not realism in my eyes ;)

And no real dynamic campaing either? There's this mission-thing coming up again:

[...]Those battles, which will take place at different locations and times in the war, aim to be more meaningful thanks to an enhanced campaign. Ubisoft wants to tell a story, instead of just dropping players into u-boats and asking them to blow some stuff up. Each mission will be given context, allowing players to not only live the largest naval battles of World War II, but know why they were important.[...]Doesn't sound good to me at all.

totodog
12-23-09, 12:37 PM
Uh oh. This Preview doesn't sound good.

At first he speaks from the simulation aspect, and then this:



This is cheating, not realism in my eyes ;)

And no real dynamic campaing either? There's this mission-thing coming up again:

Doesn't sound good to me at all.


I wouldn't be so worried. In that other thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159421) about the new video from ubisoft-tv, someone posted a response from developer, which I quote, "SH5 can be played in different dificcult settings. These settings have an influence on Interface, display, accessibilitiy and difficult level. Therefore, we ask you not to judge too early."

Also, in another interview, found here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159298), Dan says that we will still have a dynamic campaign, in addition to the new missions.

Fire
12-23-09, 01:18 PM
I know, I have posted the translation. But I'm sceptic since Ubisoft promises much, but delivers a little.

elanaiba
12-23-09, 02:16 PM
Yeah, unlike all others submarine sim developers out there.

LukeFF
12-23-09, 02:31 PM
Yeah, unlike all others submarine sim developers out there.

Don't let 'em discourage you, Dan. :)

Hitman
12-23-09, 02:32 PM
Yeah, unlike all others submarine sim developers out there.

:haha:

*break appart, break appart*

*OK, I said it before the start of the fight, will repeat it again: No low blows, right? right?*

*OK ... ready ... go!!!!*

JJ Good one Dan :up:

P.S. did you get the dossier I sent you per PM long ago about german periscopes? :hmmm:

Kapitanleutnant
12-23-09, 02:44 PM
Cheer up super daniel man. I'm sure SH5 is going to be kickin rad.

Sailor Steve
12-23-09, 03:52 PM
Go Dan!:rock:

kemeri
12-23-09, 04:37 PM
.....
The only remaining limitation is the PC exclusivity, which Dimitrescu said might change.
.....

It's not good i would say :shifty:

Arclight
12-23-09, 04:48 PM
Might change.

In the future.

And even then they could make 2 versions.

Too quick to judge, mate. ;)