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Anton88

11-10-09, 04:59 PM

The problem with the IXC sub has been solved.
With Gunfix Mod v1.0 you many now use the IXC, with tower1 & 37mm canon.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3408/gunmod.jpg

The u-boats are now configured this way:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9290/ubootviic1942.gif
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4333/typeixc1942.gif

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2208/typeixc401942.gif
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4492/typeixc401943.gif
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8966/ubootixc401944.gif
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8039/typeixd21942.gif
(notice the corrected bow on the IXD2) - this mod will soon be uploaded. Stay tuned
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All guns now are working and firing properly

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2559/ixc.jpg
<- That's a type IXC U-boot, in 1942 !

This mod is Jsgme compatible.
Read the instructions.
Enjoy.

v1.1 is here!
DOWNLOAD:
http://www.filefront.com/14901911/GunFix%20Mod%20v1.1.rar

Gumpy

11-10-09, 05:34 PM

This is a good one.Thanks:salute:

Anton88

11-10-09, 05:46 PM

Type IXD2 bow fixed!

IXD2 correct Hull mod v1.0

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6660/typeixd1.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4252/typeixd2.jpg

The type IXD1 & IXD2 were distinct in shape. They were different than the IXC in appearance. Not only they were much larger, but their bows were very much different, much rounder.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8039/typeixd21942.gif
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5865/utek.gif
Notice the difference between the IXC (top), and the IXD (bottom).
This mod changed the correct front section of the IXD2 uboat.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3240/ixd2.jpg
How it looks in game.

(ps: how come nobody noticed until now.. or is it just me) :wah:

Jsgme compatible.
questions and comments welcome:

Important: Enable this mod only when playing with the type IXD2, or else the other big boats will look like this in the loading & damage menu.
-peace-

DOWNLOAD:
http://www.filefront.com/14902045/IXD2%20correct%20Hull%20mod.rar

Anton88

11-10-09, 06:10 PM

Bonus loading screen! awesome! (included with the mod above)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3804/kickassuboatloadingscre.jpg

Reece

11-10-09, 06:58 PM

This is good,:yep: never noticed it was broken, is this suitable for all installs (GWX, Stock, NYGM etc)?:hmmm:

Anton88

11-10-09, 07:12 PM

It works with GWX and WAC4.1, I suppose it works with the others as well.
try it.

all it changes is the basic.cfg file as well as some tga image files. i dont see why it should not work.

ps: never noticed it was broken? ok. without installing my mod, select the type ixc uboot or ixd2 and try to mount the 37mm canon together with the tower 1.. you wont be able to.

with this mod, you may use these, but you still wont be able to purchase them. you start with them in 1942, as you should. you may remove them and put something else if you want.
this mod is historically correct.
many people had issuses with this bug. I think i partially fixed it
let me know how it works for u

Reece

11-10-09, 10:18 PM

My Basic.cfg file has been modded extensively, could you print the relevant lines & I will edit mine manually?:yep:
Thanks.

Anton88

11-10-09, 11:11 PM

My Basic.cfg file has been modded extensively, could you print the relevant lines & I will edit mine manually?:yep:
Thanks.

Far too many changes were made. It would take a long time to explain and its hard.
why dont you use the mod-enabler, and try this one out. I dont think it will hurt your game much. Make a backup of that file first.
If you dont like it, ill take some time to write here what you need to change.
try it out first
;)

Weiss Pinguin

11-10-09, 11:28 PM

Kpt. Lehmann

11-10-09, 11:30 PM

Attention ALL GWX players.

After reviewing the code, the above "gun fix" and "Type IXD2 correct hull" mods BOTH break NUMEROUS important/integral changes in GWX installations... and are most certainly NOT compatible with GWX.
(Broken elements resulting from use of these mods to name a few are: Award structure, other weapon loadout, crew fatigue model, U-boat damage model elements etc. Additionally, anyone using the GWX late-war U-boat snorkel sensors will likely suffer CTD's and/or "equipment destroyed" results on the crew management screen.)

Though your installation may continue to function, the above mods WERE NOT BUILT USING GWX FILES AS BASE MATERIAL.

Furthermore, for clarity's sake... no change to the IXD2 hull 3D model is made using the above file. It is GUI based only and contains what appear to be extraneous/unecessary files for the Type II, Type VII, and Type XXI U-boats.

Anton88, if you'd like to use a few files from GWX to do a bit of mod-work, all you have to do is ask myself or Jimbuna. Please read the modding etiquette sticky thread above beforehand.

I imagine you'll feel that I've come across as harsh or territorial. My only intention is to be direct. However, you must understand that 'functional' and 'compatible' are two entirely different animals... and we are often called on for user support matters relating to externally built mods that have nothing to do with GWX... but are stated as being compatible with GWX without basis or proper testing.

Anton88

11-11-09, 12:38 AM

Kpt. Lehmann

11-11-09, 01:15 AM

Its your choice not to use it. I have GWX installed and it works great.
You can go into it and delete whatever you like to keep your original settings.
I choose to always use it, since it solves some major bugs, and "adds flavor" to the game.
The IXD2 hull has been corrected for the load out and damage menu. For every sour apple out here who does not like it, im sure there is one that does.

The 3D sub models are from WAC 4.1. I corrected the armament based on historical accuracy and pictures from ww2. GWX standard equipment was wrong.
The TIV torpedo "Falke", the very first torpedo to come out, is wrongly installed on the IXD2 long range u boat in 1944, for example.
In reality that torpedo was only briefly used in early 1943, then replaced by the TV, (the Gnat) which we all know.

If you don't like it, nothing i can do. Just to let you know there are plenty of pointless mods out there. At least this one solves a few issues we had with this game previously.
Thanks for your constructive criticism

You are welcome. It was indeed an attempt at giving you constructive criticism and to correctly inform GWX users of potential problems without delay. It was not my intent to shoot down your modwork... but to point out the need for a reconstruction of your work instead.

I wasn't being sarcastic... but since it appears that you are being exactly that: What you have done is careless modding. Based on your above statement, you don't appear to care in the slightest how you damage GWX filework... and you have not offered GWX users anything resembling a full disclosure of what your mods break in GWX installations.

Furthermore, U-boat weapon loadouts were VARIABLE AND DEBATABLE... GWX weapon loadouts were well researched via reliable sources such as U-boat.net, Clay Blair's works, and Eberhard Rossler's works. These are all good, and arguably definitive sources that on occasion conflict with each other. (Am currently recalling a long debate over Type II torpedo loadouts.)

Once again you also imply that you've changed the 3D model of the IXD2... but your mods to not contain the necessary files to modify any 3D model... The included .tga files are GUI alterations only.

Do as you will by all means. Anton88, your stuff breaks very important elements of GWX user installations... and I'm simply too tired to assist someone who doesn't seem to care.

Anton88

11-11-09, 07:31 PM

Once again you also imply that you've changed the 3D model of the IXD2... but your mods to not contain the necessary files to modify any 3D model... The included .tga files are GUI alterations only.

Do as you will by all means. Anton88, your stuff breaks very important elements of GWX user installations... and I'm simply too tired to assist someone who doesn't seem to care.

Who says I changed anything 3D? Where did you read that? Stop putting words in my mouth. I only changed the 2D boat. What have you been sniffing?

The .tga files are from WAC 4.1, - if you dont like them, talk to the producer.
Its funny how you accuse me bad modding, ..when when I see the crappy torpedo loadout in GWX3.0, I cant help but lough. I already told you the IV type 4) torpedo was only used on 3 boats in early 1943,.. and then abandoned. You put it as Standard equipment on large IXD2 1944 uboats.
This kind of error one can get away with in GWX v0.1, but not the latest version,...shows how much a guy from the Republic of Texas knows about German submarines
Need I quote from Uboat.net?
Falke, the first homing torpedo, was fitted with a passive acoustic homing device. It was introduced in March, 1943 and used by U-603 (http://uboat.net/boats/u603.htm) (Oblt. Bertelsmann), U-758 (http://uboat.net/boats/u758.htm) (Kptlt. Manseck) and U-221 (http://uboat.net/boats/u221.htm) (Kptlt. Trojer) against convoys HX-229 and SC-122. Few were used as it was replace by the T5 which was faster, had a greater range and could be used with either magnetic or contact detonators. And nobody asked for assistance,.. but thank you.. I appreciate it just as much as you seem to appreciate my mod

makman94

11-11-09, 09:14 PM

Commander Gizmo

11-11-09, 11:12 PM

Far too many changes were made. It would take a long time to explain and its hard.
why dont you use the mod-enabler, and try this one out. I dont think it will hurt your game much. Make a backup of that file first.
If you dont like it, ill take some time to write here what you need to change.
try it out first
;)

anton88 ....you have to relax a little .people are right on their suggestions to you but you don't 'seem' to listen at all

basic.cfg is controling not only the parts that you have altered so is possible to cuase errors if you used as base the wac's basic.cfg and run it on gwx .
i don't know what basic.cfg is controling but you have to know exactly all the parts that been controled by basic.cfg in order to follow the path you choose.do you really know all the basic.cfg ?if yes...then forget anything i said

Anton88, if you will send me the original base file you used I can advise on the appropriate changes required for others to adopt this without all the worries about breaking GWX and such. Let me know if you desire such assistance.

Kpt. Lehmann

11-12-09, 02:24 PM

Who says I changed anything 3D? Where did you read that? Stop putting words in my mouth. I only changed the 2D boat. What have you been sniffing?

The .tga files are from WAC 4.1, - if you dont like them, talk to the producer.
Its funny how you accuse me bad modding, ..when when I see the crappy torpedo loadout in GWX3.0, I cant help but lough. I already told you the IV type 4) torpedo was only used on 3 boats in early 1943,.. and then abandoned. You put it as Standard equipment on large IXD2 1944 uboats.
This kind of error one can get away with in GWX v0.1, but not the latest version,...shows how much a guy from the Republic of Texas knows about German submarines
Need I quote from Uboat.net?
And nobody asked for assistance,.. but thank you.. I appreciate it just as much as you seem to appreciate my mod

Type IXD2 bow fixed!

IXD2 correct Hull mod v1.0

The type IXD1 & IXD2 were distinct in shape. They were different than the IXC in appearance. Not only they were much larger, but their bows were very much different, much rounder.

Notice the difference between the IXC (top), and the IXD (bottom).
This mod changed the correct front section of the IXD2 uboat.

questions and comments welcome:

I guess that "questions and comments welcome" only applied to people who don't point out problems with things you haven't taken into account.

Where did you claim to 'correct a 3D model?' Just look at the quote above and read it from the standpoint of a new or inexperienced user.

The only thing crappy here is your coprophagic bad attitude and total inability to accept a statement that is completely USEFUL.

You have indeed created a bad mod given that you've claimed it is compatible with GWX when it most certainly is not. Your mod as it stands can create SERIOUS problems for individuals using GWX.

You've adjusted one element but have broken numerous others that may cause CTD's in the right circumstances. THAT is why you need to begin with GWX filework as your base if you intend to claim 'compatability' with GWX... and THAT is why GWX devs such as myself may step in where overall/greater functionality is concerned. Historical accuracy in a simulator comes SECOND to stability. (...and you asked what I'm sniffing.)

Furthermore, the T5 Zaunkonig becomes available IN-BASE at the appropriate time in GWX, allowing GWX users to employ T5's WITHOUT a mod!!! (October 1943)

At any rate, if you aren't happy about our "crappy" torpedo loadout for ONE SUB on ONE YEAR in GWX... you can always sue to get the money back that you paid the GWX team to download it.

This guy from the Republic of Texas... that apparently doesn't know diddley about U-boats... only had several thousand other elements to be concerned with that were required to be FUNCTIONAL in-game with GWX relating to the ENTIRE U-boat war. If the torpedo loadout for one boat and one year... that users can SELF CORRECT... fell through the cracks... BIG DEAL.

Anton88

11-12-09, 08:40 PM

anton88 ....you have to relax a little .people are right on their suggestions to you but you don't 'seem' to listen at all

basic.cfg is controling not only the parts that you have altered so is possible to cuase errors if you used as base the wac's basic.cfg and run it on gwx .
i don't know what basic.cfg is controling but you have to know exactly all the parts that been controled by basic.cfg in order to follow the path you choose.do you really know all the basic.cfg ?if yes...then forget anything i said

alright... no problem at all. Thats different. I'll make one for GWX, no big deal. The one I have works just fine... and it does not take much to make it compatible with one mod or the other.

Another error from stock SHIII was the incorrect heavy AA canons. They were reversed. Take a look at the above photos and you'll see that they are now correct.
Make any changes you want,.. this mod is not copyrighted. ill release another one just so this guy stops whining

makman94

11-12-09, 09:25 PM

.... I'll make one for GWX, no big deal. The one I have works just fine... and it does not take much to make it compatible with one mod or the other.

now you are 'talking' Anton88 ! if you use as base the gwx's basic.cfg ( and take as given that your personal tweaks are correct) i think that there will be no problem at all. one version for wac and one for gwx ( and don't forget the great nygm also ,if you have some time make one version for each)

Another error from stock SHIII was the incorrect heavy AA canons. They were reversed. Take a look at the above photos and you'll see that they are now correct.
i have never look at guns of subs...etc so my opinion has no value at all

Kpt. Lehmann

11-12-09, 09:57 PM

Make any changes you want,.. this mod is not copyrighted. ill release another one just so this guy stops whining

LOL! Your just mad because you were called to account for shoddy work.

You may not respect all the work here that came before your little 'adjustments' to various mods... but you will be called on to face it when you act like the bull in the china closet.:shucks: That methodology won't work for you here and it will only burn bridges you may need later.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1195448#post1195448

Anton88

11-13-09, 06:50 PM

LOL! Your just mad because you were called to account for shoddy work.

You may not respect all the work here that came before your little 'adjustments' to various mods... but you will be called on to face it when you act like the bull in the china closet.:shucks: That methodology won't work for you here and it will only burn bridges you may need later.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1195448#post1195448

Bull in the China closet? Is that an expression from "the republic of Texas"?
Never heard it before. Can most people over there even find China on the map?

I appreciate your hard work and dedication with the GWX project, but even you, the expert was not able to come up with the solution for the gun-problem...solve it, and release it in one of your super mods.
You know everything about the Basic.cfg file and how to edit it..
then why didn't you -the U-boot expert- fix this bug, and instead let a mod newbee like me do it? Why didn't you realize the uboat hull was incorrect,..why didn't you notice the guns were reversed .. (tga images).
Why don't you make corrections to the Deck gun, and Periscopes so that they have that twisty thing that's wrapped around them.. (like it has in WAC 4.1). You should work on things like these that make the game more historical collrect and realistic,..instead of criticizing the hell out of someone who tries to improve it.
You said my mod screws up your late-war sensors stuff..

The mod I did makes the IXC uboot look like this: Thats for 1942 and 1943 period.. after that you no longer need it. Having late war sensors together with this mod is kind of pointless, dont you think?
You want to install a schnorchel on the boat below? In 1942?? :wah:
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/InfHistorica/UBoatsBrasil/U507Black03.jpg

Kpt. Lehmann

11-14-09, 01:34 AM

Bull in the China closet? Is that an expression from "the republic of Texas"?
Never heard it before. Can most people over there even find China on the map?

I appreciate your hard work and dedication with the GWX project, but even you, the expert was not able to come up with the solution for the gun-problem...solve it, and release it in one of your super mods.
You know everything about the Basic.cfg file and how to edit it..
then why didn't you -the U-boot expert- fix this bug, and instead let a mod newbee like me do it? Why didn't you realize the uboat hull was incorrect,..why didn't you notice the guns were reversed .. (tga images).
Why don't you make corrections to the Deck gun, and Periscopes so that they have that twisty thing that's wrapped around them.. (like it has in WAC 4.1). You should work on things like these that make the game more historical collrect and realistic,..instead of criticizing the hell out of someone who tries to improve it.
You said my mod screws up your late-war sensors stuff..

The mod I did makes the IXC uboot look like this: Thats for 1942 and 1943 period.. after that you no longer need it. Having late war sensors together with this mod is kind of pointless, dont you think?
You want to install a schnorchel on the boat below? In 1942?? :wah:
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/InfHistorica/UBoatsBrasil/U507Black03.jpg

Not once in all my days here, have I ever claimed to be a "U-boat expert." I'd really like to be, but I'll never claim it.

Hell, I've never even SEEN an actual submarine and I am land-locked for hundreds of miles in every direction.

So count all the rivets you wish. Armchair "experts" like you are a dime a dozen anyway. With anything under the sun... if you look deep enough, you'll find a bit of tarnish or rust.

I didn't have the luxury of total focus on any one aspect of the mass of material that is covered in GWX with the intent to engineer the entire U-boat War...

... apart from one thing that I do claim to have pushed harder for than anything else....

STABILITY

Without it... EVERY detail of every mod is pointless and wasted.

Surely, even genius Romanian guys like you understand that. (Unlike you, I don't feel the need to imply that 'stupidity' is geographically sensitive. ... and speakin' fer us dummmb Texans... I seem to recollect that one 'o them there dumb Texans owns this here site. Yup he beeult eeyut ahll bah hiself he deeyud! So ahh reckun he's a purdy smart Texan... Ah think that maybe he's even studied books an' stuff. Ain't that uhhhmayzin'? Gyuk gyuk! :88) He even lets them wierd Ruhmayneeans from up north o' Canuhduh type stuff on here. Cuz they're all smart ya know? Deeud yoo know thayut they eeet their babehs up thar in Ruhmayneea? They shore do.)

Furthermore, if you've followed matters concerning GWX... you'd know that we have made our final release.... right, wrong, or indifferent. You haven't the foggiest idea, just how difficult that has been to execute.

... and YEP... this dumb 'expert' from the Republic of Texas... thinks the whole team did a damn fine job in uncountable ways.

So you can keep showing your ass and mocking the land I live in, me, GWX, being defensive, whatever. You wouldn't have the courage to say it all to my face anyway.

GWX has TWO basic.cfgs at any rate. Think about that. Since you are so sharp. I'm sure you can help yourself. In the meantime, GWX users shouldn't employ your works because until you've followed the recommendations already stated to you... they can expect serious problems with their installations.

Your thread was initially interesting to me... because I hate missing details, but now I just don't give a rip. You're a common, run-of-the-mill jerk. (The kind of guy I'd have kicked off of the team in a heartbeat, regardless of whatever you might know.)

I'm done talking to you. So enjoy having the last word. I'm sure it will be scathing and oh-so-nasty.:|\\

Venatore

11-14-09, 07:20 AM

Sooooo......hows them Dallas Cowboys :yeah:

http://www.dallascowboys365.com/uploaded_images/Dallas-Cowboys-Cheerleaders-774956.jpg

http://www.girlroster.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/dallas-cowboys-cheerleader1.jpg

mookiemookie

11-14-09, 10:27 AM

Bull in the China closet? Is that an expression from "the republic of Texas"?
Never heard it before. Can most people over there even find China on the map?

I don't know about finding China on a map, but we certainly know how to take constructive criticism without throwing a temper tantrum.

Jimbuna

11-14-09, 11:55 AM

Anton (putting aside the differences between you and KL for a moment).

You have been cordially advised by the GWX Project Manager that your work IS NOT COMPATIBLE with GWX.

Whether you agree or not is it not sensible to make further efforts in investigating the true position.

At the very least is it not wise to warn people there are concerns in some quarters that the work you have created may have a detrimental impact on their GWX installation.

I'm confident you'll reconsider and agree with me when I say "The community deserves nothing less"