[WIP] H-39, H-44 and O Class

[Karle94]

I am making the H-39, H-44 classes battleships and the O class battlecruiser.

These ships are basicly enlarged versions of the Bismarck and Scharnhorst, with two smokestacks.

The H-44 and the O class has been scrapped becouse of lack of time and modelling skills.

Here`s the H-39:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2009-11-05_210301_531.jpg

and the O Class:
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2009-11-07_214511_453.jpg

And last the king of the battleships; the H-44

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/SH4Img2009-11-07_215124_078.jpg

Fell free to make any suggestions.

[Starforce2]

Enlarged version of the bismark? Are these planned german BB's that never came into exsistance, or did they come in a later post war era?

[Karle94]

These were all planned ships that was never build becouse of the urgent need for u-boats.

[Starforce2]

Got specs?

[Task Force]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H_class_battleship_(1939)
some stuff on the H class.

[Karle94]

here are some more pictures

This is the H-39
http://www.chuckhawks.com/hclass.jpg

Type:BattleshipDisplacement:55,450 tons design
62,500 tons fully ladenLength:872 ft (266 m)Beam:122 ft (37 m)Draft:32 ft 6 in (9.91 m) design
36 ft 6 in (11.13 m) fully loadedPropulsion:12 × MAN double-acting 2-stroke 9-cylinder dieselsSpeed:30 knots (56 km/h)Range:16,000 nautical miles (30,000 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h)Complement:2,600Sensors and
processing systems:FuMO 23 radar systemArmament:8 × 40.6 cm (16.0 in) Schnelladekanone C/34
12 × 15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 × 10.5 cm (4.1 in) AA
16 × 3.7 cm (1.5 in) AA
24 × 2 cm (0.79 in) AA
6 × 21 in (53 cm) torpedo tubesArmor:Belt: 295mm - 175mm
Main Deck: 80mm - 50mm
Armored Deck: 120mm - 100mm
Torpedo Bulkhead: 45mm
Armored Bulkheads: 220mm
Main Turrets: 380mm - 125mm
Secondary Turrets: 100mm - 40mm
Conning Tower: 400mmAircraft carried:One catapult with four aircraft, probably Arado 196 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_196) seaplanes

Hee`s the H-44:
http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/picturesu/e3.jpg

Type:BattleshipDisplacement:55,450 tons design
62,500 tons fully ladenLength:872 ft (266 m)Beam:122 ft (37 m)Draft:32 ft 6 in (9.91 m) design
36 ft 6 in (11.13 m) fully loadedPropulsion:12 × MAN double-acting 2-stroke 9-cylinder dieselsSpeed:30 knots (56 km/h)Range:16,000 nautical miles (30,000 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h)Complement:2,600Sensors and
processing systems:FuMO 23 radar systemArmament:8 × 40.6 cm (16.0 in) Schnelladekanone C/34
12 × 15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 × 10.5 cm (4.1 in) AA
16 × 3.7 cm (1.5 in) AA
24 × 2 cm (0.79 in) AA
6 × 21 in (53 cm) torpedo tubesArmor:Belt: 295mm - 175mm
Main Deck: 80mm - 50mm
Armored Deck: 120mm - 100mm
Torpedo Bulkhead: 45mm
Armored Bulkheads: 220mm
Main Turrets: 380mm - 125mm
Secondary Turrets: 100mm - 40mm
Conning Tower: 400mmAircraft carried:One catapult with four aircraft, probably Arado 196 seaplanes

Here`s the O Class:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/opq_clas.jpg

Type:BattlecruiserDisplacement:35,400 long tons (35,968 t)Length:256 m (840 ft)Beam:30 m (98 ft)Draft:8.02 m (26.3 ft)Propulsion:8 x 24 cylinder diesel engines, 60,000 shp
4 x Wagner boilers
1 x Brown, Boveri & Co. turbine set, 116,000 shpSpeed:35 knots (40 mph; 65 km/h)Range:14,000 nmi (26,000 km) at 19 kn (35 km/h)Complement:65 officers
1,900 menArmament:• 6 × 38.1 cm (15.0 in) SK C/34 guns
• 6 × 15 cm (5.9 in) SK C/28 guns
• 8 × 10.5 cm SK C/33 AA
• 8 × 3.7 cm SK C/30 AA
• 20 × 2 cm SK C/30 AA
• 6 × 53.3 cm (21.0 in) torpedo tubesArmor:Belt: 190 mm (7.5 in)
Deck: 80 mm (3.1 in)
Turrets: 210 mm (8.3 in)
Torpedo bulkhead: 45 mm (1.8 in)Aircraft carried:4 x Arado Ar 196 seaplanesAviation facilities:1 x double catapult, 3 hangars

[Starforce2]

Well those ought to be fun to watch.

[Karle94]

You misunderstand, these are playable. I am pretty much finished, just need some more tweaking. These are for OM. I don`t know if I am gonna make them for normal 1.5

[Karle94]

Give Yamato1 the credits for the ships.

[Lagger123987]

Man, feels like SH4 is becoming more like navyfield sooner or later...

[Starforce2]

You misunderstand, these are playable. I am pretty much finished, just need some more tweaking. These are for OM. I don`t know if I am gonna make them for normal 1.5

Aww man..I'd rather be the one trying to sink them. Playable surface ships don't much interest me. I hope someone makes them TF ships. With a few people working on various US vs germany in atlantic mods some theroretical timelines seem only natural.

[Karle94]

You really want to try to sink the H-44? Its has 20 inch guns witch would penetrate the Yamato with ease at any range.

[Travis Reed]

You really want to try to sink the H-44? Its has 20 inch guns witch would penetrate the Yamato with ease at any range.

That's only a problem if the H44 can see you... If they don't even know you're there...then it's a viable target...:lurk:

[Starforce2]

You really want to try to sink the H-44? Its has 20 inch guns witch would penetrate the Yamato with ease at any range.


It looks like u have it listed as 16 inch guns?

Besides, I'm not sure at close range they could train 20 inch guns on you, they'd have trouble moving the turrets fast enough. Secondary guns would still kill you quite quickly..probably one hit.

[Karle94]

Oh, sorry. I got the wrong ship. Here`s the H-44

Type:Battleship

Displacement:110,696 long tons design
131,088 long tons fully laden

Length:345.1 m (1,132 ft 3 in) (waterline)
359 m (1,177 ft 10 in) (overall)Beam:51.5 m (169 ft 0 in)

Draft:12.7 m (41 ft 8 in) design
13.5 m (44 ft 3 in) fully loaded

Propulsion:Inner shafts: 8 × 9-cylinder MAN diesel engines, 120,000 shp
Outer shafts: 2 × steam turbines driven by 6 oil-fired boilers, 150,000 shp
Combined power: 4 shafts, 270,000 shp

Speed:30.1 knots (55.7 km/h) maximum

Range:20,000 nautical miles (37,000 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h)

Complement:Unknown, but not less than 2,600

Sensors and
processing systems:Radar included, but not specified


Armament:8 × 50.8 cm (20.0 in) guns in twin turrets
12 × 15 cm (5.9 in) guns in twin turrets
16 × 10.5 cm (4.1 in) in twin turrets
28 × 37 mm (1.5 in) in twin mounts
40 × 20 mm (0.79 in) in quadruple mounts
6 × 533 mm (21.0 in) underwater torpedo tubes

Armor:Belt: 380 mm (15 in)
Armoured decks:
60 mm (2.4 in) top deck
140 mm (5.5 in) upper AD
130 mm (5.1 in)–200 mm (7.9 in) lower AD
Torpedo bulkheads:
45 mm (1.8 in) outer
30 mm (1.2 in) inner (depth of 11 m (36 ft 1 in))

Aircraft carried:one catapult with nine aircraft, probably Arado 196 seaplanes

[Karle94]

Uploaded the H-39 version 1 beta. Comments is wanted.
http://www.filefront.com/14900547/H-39_V1.0beta.rar

[Marka Ragnos]

Uploaded the H-39 version 1 beta. Comments is wanted.
http://www.filefront.com/14900547/H-39_V1.0beta.rar

Thank you for releasing this very nice ship!

You said comments are welcome so here we go:


- I can't use the AA gun or deck gun
- I can choose the boat for a campaign but when i try to start the mission it gives something like no objective found and i can only use the back button

And omg it can take a beating :D i like that lots of fun
At the moment the ship is going at about 33 knots


I'm looking forward to the H-44 :D

Very nicely done!

[Karle94]

Then you would like to know that this is for Operation Monsoon.

[Marka Ragnos]

Then you would like to know that this is for Operation Monsoon.


Okay i did not know that, i have tmo installed

[seaplate hitman]

i am appreciate your hard work

[nautilus42]

Then you would like to know that this is for Operation Monsoon.

H-39-beta is not :nope: compatible with Operation Monsoon, only with SH4_1.5_Stock, because OM has another CrewMembers.upc, Ranks.upc, etc.

[Karle94]

If you try it with 1.5 there`s no guns and career.

[Bartolomeus]

Looking forward to these Ships. Great work so far.

[werwil0]

:yeah:Uploaded the H-39 version 1 beta. Comments is wanted.
http://www.filefront.com/14900547/H-39_V1.0beta.rar
Das Schiff läuft bei mir hervorragend. Habe die Version 1.5. Ich habe die Geschwindigkeit auf 38 Knoten gesteigert. Sehr gutes Werk. Wann kommt die H 44-Klasse? Mit bestem Gruß.
(kann leider kein englisch)

[Karle94]

Mein Deutsch is nicht gut, aber die H-44 ist spielbar but nicht klar.

[werwil0]

Mein Deutsch is nicht gut, aber die H-44 ist spielbar but nicht klar.
Hallo, schön daß Sie Online sind. Kommt die H 44-Klasse auch mit den 50-Zentimeter Geschützen? Geht das technisch?

[Karle94]

Ja. Die H-44 kommt mit die 50cm kanonen.

[werwil0]

Ja. Die H-44 kommt mit die 50cm kanonen.
Prima, schönen Sonntag und viele Grüße nach Norwegen.

[yamatoforever]

Hey! Cool ship! :up:

Do I have your permission to convert to your ships to SH3?

Greetings
Yamatoforever Molke2005

[Karle94]

Yamatoforever you may use the H-39 for SH3. The O class and the H-44 when they are released.

[yamatoforever]

THANKS!!! :yeah:

[yamatoforever]

One of the funnel has texture error! It flickers!

[Karle94]

Is it the funnel nr.1?

[yamatoforever]

I think so.

[Karle94]

That`s becouse I placed a up-scaled funnel from the aircraft carrier Seydlitz on the original funnel.

[werwil0]

:o Guten Tag, wann ist mit dem Erscheinen der H 44 zu rechnen? Bin sehr gespannt! Grüße nach Norwegen.

[Karle94]

Die H-44 ist nicht klar. Ich arbeiten mit die Kampanie.

[Karle94]

I bring bad news. The H-44 and the O Class are cancelled.

[werwil0]

Das ist schade. Warum? Answer too in english. Mit freundlichem Gruß

[Karle94]

I reinstalled SH4. I didn`t kow that all the files in the mods folder also got removed. So the H-39, H-44, O class and Lion class are gone. But the H-39 is on the internett so there is still hope.

[werwil0]

:sunny:I reinstalled SH4. I didn`t kow that all the files in the mods folder also got removed. So the H-39, H-44, O class and Lion class are gone. But the H-39 is on the internett so there is still hope.

Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt! Freundliche Grüße nach Norwegen.

[mitchell300]

For the people that want to see the O project and h39 a bit better then on those black/white stuff.
O project class:
http://www.shipbucket.com/Never%20Built%20Designs/Germany/BBO-Klasse1.png
H39 class(stil working on it)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5503/h39opbouw.png
*this one doesnt has the credit's yet, converting it is no use yet*
H44 class (just started, like nothing done yet exept the main armament and the screws)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4743/kmsh44project.png
Please do not use these whitout proper crediting.
Always use (mitchell300 & *your name here*)
Arial black size=8.

Btw your o project playable has the wrong guns.
The o project has only 4 times the 5.9'' duals.
The rest are those 3'' duals but in a new turret.


Mitch :salute:

[deadman-814-]

just a quick question will the h44's 20" guns fire the larger rounds or like the Yamato mod only fire the 14" round.:salute:

[Karle94]

You obviously haven`t heard. I scrapped the H-44 and the O class.

[Wolfling04]

Karle, polite suggestion, I would edit the first post to say and briefly explain why the H-44 and the O class have been canceled. That way you don't or shouldn't have to repeat it a whole lot

Would this also be compatible with OM's Omegu?

[Karle94]

That`s a good idea. Thanks.

[Wolfling04]

No Problem,

Just tried 'er out that beautiful ship out and this is what I got,
No crew to start with
Watchman hanging off the bridge (will try and post a picture)
No damage model. (at least it was not working for me)

Mods:

OpsMonsun_705
OMv705_to_720
OMEGU_v300
OMEGU_v300_patch3
AOBF 16-9 Res
OM_Harder_Escort_L1
OM_SH3_Command_Keys

Will try later without running OMEGU

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh162/Wolfling04/SH4Img2010-01-10_082240_799.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh162/Wolfling04/SH4Img2010-01-10_082125_143.jpg

[tomhugill]

Its becaue your tryin to run it with OM which I would imagin the ship is incompatable with , also the ship havnt been properly damage modeled AFAIK

[Wolfling04]

You misunderstand, these are playable. I am pretty much finished, just need some more tweaking. These are for OM. I don`t know if I am gonna make them for normal 1.5

I ran these with OM has Karle said he made them for OM. I just have not got a chance to run them without OMEGU yet ( I work way to much).

BTW what does AFAIK stand for?

[Karle94]

I don`t think that the mod will work properly with OMEGU.

[tomhugill]

OMEGU will have no effect

[Comrade Kapitan]

Is there a link to the h44 mod? It looks really neat

[Karle94]

http://www.mediafire.com/download/gwaxibkkk0ia6gz/H-44_V1.0.rar

[kms bismarck]

Is there a link for the O class? I really want it...