[REL] Emblems for OM 705 uboats

[othr]

Current version 0.4

This implements emblems for OMEGU210 boat types: IIB, IIC, IID, VIIB, VIIC, VIIC/41, VIID, IX, IXB, IXC, IXC/40, IXD2, XXI.


Prerequisites

OpsMonsoon_V705
OMv705_720
OMEGU_v210
OMEGU_v210_Hotfix3


Selecting an emblem

- predefined or your custom emblem can now we be selected from the equipment management menu, by default there is no emblem.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5040/40897505.th.png (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/40897505.png/)

Making your own emblems

- they need to be DDS or TGA files, 256x256 pixels.
- transparency in your emblem image file will work.
- examples included with the mod, they were converted from SH3 (basically transparency added) they're not perfect but I'm sure your emblem will be!
- place your emblem in your game folder under Data\textures\TNormal\tex\emblem.tga or .dds and that's it.


Issues and problems

- the emblem model is a basic cube 1px deep, this can cause issues with conning towers that lack in flat areas such as type II subs. The emblem will not 'stick' well. As a result these boats get a smaller emblem and only the 'custom' one.
- if there is no emblem even if after you selected one from the menu, that means it hasn't been implemented for the boat, unless it's one of the boats mentioned at the top of this document, then it's probably a bug.
- type XXI emblem will disappear at certain angles, also looking for help with this one.
- adding emblems to an existing campaign requires some manual work, unfortunately, here is how: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showpost.php?p=1198033&postcount=29 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1198033&postcount=29)

Tweaking placement

I have provided a placement kit for emblem positions in Support\OM U-Emblems\Placement Kit. Because S3D will not display external models associated this way, the kit will help with obtaining those coordinates. You can use those dat files to place emblems in whatever fashion and then copy the coordinates to the appropriate conning tower .dat file.


Enjoy.


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9651/portg.th.png (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/portg.png/)http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5674/stbd.th.png (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/stbd.png/)


Credits:

lurker, for making OM
Ducimus for this wonderful Licenses and Perimissions section
uboat.net for historical flotilla information
etheberge - IXD2 and XXI Turm skins without embedded emblem and lots of help with getting this thing up to snuff


Download link

http://www.mediafire.com/?nmumtwimmx5

Changes 0.2 to 0.3

- equipment.upc fix
- coordinates tweaks
- custom emblem fix
- small emblem for type II's
- placement kit added
- tweaked IXD2 and XXI skin by etherberge

Changes 0.3. to 0.4

- fixed XXI not displaying an emblem just a messy texture
- IID works again, thanks Etherberge
- readme.txt section on how to add this to an existing campaign, thanks lurker and Etherberge

[lurker_hlb3]

I did a quick test and found that this mod works well with OMv720. I would recommend this mod to all users of OM.

Only problem noted is that a version of this mod needs to be made that works with OMEGU.

[othr]

I'm working out some kinks but eventually you will be able to pick predefined emblems or a custom one from the equipment menu.

Maybe you will want to include with OMEGU. I should have it done by tomorrow and here is what it will look like


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6153/45923483.th.png (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/45923483.png/)

[lurker_hlb3]

I'm working out some kinks but eventually you will be able to pick predefined emblems or a custom one from the equipment menu.

Maybe you will want to include with OMEGU. I should have it done by tomorrow and here is what it will look like


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6153/45923483.th.png (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/45923483.png/)


I will look into it. I would need to see all the related files before I would integrate into OMEGU

By the way, good job

[othr]

OMEGU 210 doesn't include VIIC conning towers with it, maybe they're omitted by mistake? The mod, as it is in the original post, should work with OMEGU.

[lurker_hlb3]

OMEGU 210 doesn't include VIIC conning towers with it, maybe they're omitted by mistake? The mod, as it is in the original post, should work with OMEGU.


However if you plan to expand this project to other uboats then there would be a requirement for changes over the original .dat files

[othr]

Here it is, with emblem selection enabled for OMEGU.

Boats with little square area on their conning towers are troublesome. I will deal with that by either using a part of the tower's mesh (laborious) or make emblems for those boats smaller.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/media/reviews/image/dosbootwave.jpg

MUCH Fanfare given. THANK YOU !!!

[etheberge]

Hey Othr,
With this latest version I can't get the custom emblem to show up on any of the boats. The flotilla emblems work fine. It's possible it could be just my install. Also there's this issue with some of the boats, looks like the placement just needs to be tweaked a little bit.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=103&pictureid=728

Your mod is a big breakthrough Othr, congrats! Also check your pm's.

[othr]

Yes that is a rather odd paint job :)

As I mentioned before, this boat is one of the ones with little flat area on the conning tower too. But yes that definitely is not placed well, thanks.

[lurker_hlb3]

Was just doing a code review of your latest work. Your need to download OMEGU_v210_Hotfix3 and use the "Equipment.upc" in this mod. Your current "Equipment.upc" is stepping on a "high priority" fix.

[etheberge]

Yes that is a rather odd paint job :)

As I mentioned before, this boat is one of the ones with little flat area on the conning tower too. But yes that definitely is not placed well, thanks.

Ah, ok I get what you're saying now, you can't "bend" the object on a round surface, it has to be flat. Roger that.

[othr]

It would be possible to 'bend' it, but that would complicate things somewhat. Except using just one flat model for the emblem you would have to have multiple models that would match conning tower curvature for each tower. Unfortunately it is not possible with S3D to bend the model itself (or maybe?).

That means a fixed area where the model goes, the flat model is more flexible because you can move it around provided there is enough flat surface for it to stick well.


To lurker:

The mod is using OMEGU_210_Hotfix3 Equipment.upc file

[othr]

Hey Othr,
With this latest version I can't get the custom emblem to show up on any of the boats.

Found the issue and fixed it, I'll upload the new version in a few.

[lurker_hlb3]

othr

Please check your PM

[othr]

othr

Please check your PM

Thank you lurker, issue corrected in 0.3

[Onkel Neal]

Current version 0.3

This implements emblems for OMEGU210 boat types: IIB, IIC, IID, VIIB, VIIC, VIIC/41, VIID, IX, IXB, IXC, IXC/40, IXD2, XXI.



Added to SUBSIM downloads here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1412)


FYI, just checking to make sure, can some of you look and see if the images show up in the post here? (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1412) Please PM me yes you see them, or not, thanks! :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

I see them!:yeah:

[Akula4745]

Hey othr,
Any idea why this wouldn't be showing up in port when added to an existing career?

OpsMonsun_V705
OMv705_to_V720
OMEGU_v210
OMEGU_v210_Hotfix3
OM_Arct_Env
Csengoi's EnemiesOfGermany
Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
German Map Labels v1.0
Real Clothes V_2
CeilingFanRemover
OM U-Emblems-0.3

BTW - nearing completion of a historical U-boat emblem package - each on an individual layer in a PSD file. Should be around 230-250 emblems when completed.

[othr]

Hey othr,
Any idea why this wouldn't be showing up in port when added to an existing career?

OpsMonsun_V705
OMv705_to_V720
OMEGU_v210
OMEGU_v210_Hotfix3
OM_Arct_Env
Csengoi's EnemiesOfGermany
Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
German Map Labels v1.0
Real Clothes V_2
CeilingFanRemover
OM U-Emblems-0.3

BTW - nearing completion of a historical U-boat emblem package - each on an individual layer in a PSD file. Should be around 230-250 emblems when completed.

Hey,

I'm sure there is a workaround for it but I just don't know what that is :(

Great news about the emblems, that's a lot of working adding them all :)

[lurker_hlb3]

Hey,

I'm sure there is a workaround for it but I just don't know what that is :(

Great news about the emblems, that's a lot of working adding them all :)

I'll look into this later today.

Also since you have been kind enough to let me roll your mod into the next version of OMEGU I've begun porting over "Evil Jester 76's Emblem-Mod" to run with the OM-Emblem mod. This one has 188 historical correct emblems and are all ready in the required format. The only problem I've seen is the "alpha channels" need some rework and I'm planning to fix it so they can all be selected from the "equipment page".

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Edit

Akula4745 did you "scroll down" to access the Uboat Emblems ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/lurker_hlb3/emble-down.jpg

[othr]

Sounds great! There is a mod out there as well called Conus' Historically Accurate U-boat Emblems 1.3 that I've been looking at. Quite a bit of good stuff there too.

If you use GIMP it's quite easy to convert those, they all use a certain colour to represent alpha channels for how it was done in SH3. Use the colour picker to select that colour and then Colours->Colour to alpha, done.

In the meantime while I was working on porting over boats from SH3 I improved the VIIC to include some bilge action and even diesel exhaust.

It still needs a bit of work but here is what it looks like so far

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4499/11868247.th.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/11868247.png/)

[Akula4745]

Also since you have been kind enough to let me roll your mod into the next version of OMEGU I've begun porting over "Evil Jester 76's Emblem-Mod" to run with the OM-Emblem mod. This one has 188 historical correct emblems and are all ready in the required format. The only problem I've seen is the "alpha channels" need some rework and I'm planning to fix it so they can all be selected from the "equipment page".

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Edit

Akula4745 did you "scroll down" to access the Uboat Emblems ?


Lurker - there was no scroll provided. I can see the mod in a new career... but not my current one.

http://www.jimdeadman.com/images/noscroll.jpg

Nov. 29, 1942
7th flotilla
St. Nazaire
VIIC

Same mod load:

OpsMonsun_V705
OMv705_to_V720
OMEGU_v210
OMEGU_v210_Hotfix3
OM_Arct_Env
Csengoi's EnemiesOfGermany
Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
German Map Labels v1.0
Real Clothes V_2
CeilingFanRemover
OM U-Emblems-0.3

Also - you are welcome to use anything I may have that is not in "Evil Jester 76's Emblem-Mod"

[lurker_hlb3]

Lurker - there was no scroll provided. I can see the mod in a new career... but not my current one.

Go to c:\Documents and Settings\xxxxx\My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\SaveGames
And your most current import save


Edit ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc

Fine the following:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 10]
ID=TarnmatteSlot
NameDisplayable=Tarnmatte Schnorkel Head Coating
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=No
ExternalNodeName3D=TAR
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=28
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

And insert this right after it

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 11]
ID=EmblemSlot
NameDisplayable=Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
ExternalNodeName3D=EMB
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=-1
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

Save and restart the game and the emblem addon should be there

[lurker_hlb3]

Sounds great! There is a mod out there as well called Conus' Historically Accurate U-boat Emblems 1.3 that I've been looking at. Quite a bit of good stuff there too.

Got the ok from Conus to use his stuff. After code review I'm going to go with his stuff vice "Evil Jester 76's Emblem-Mod"

[Akula4745]

ARGH... still no luck. Edited exactly as specified - below is copied directly from \My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\SaveGames\XXXXXX\ActiveUser PlayerUnits.upc (includes entry before and after added data) - with XXXXXX being the most recent save:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 10]
ID=TarnmatteSlot
NameDisplayable=Tarnmatte Schnorkel Head Coating
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=No
ExternalNodeName3D=TAR
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=28
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 11]
ID=EmblemSlot
NameDisplayable=Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
ExternalNodeName3D=EMB
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=-1
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_WatchW1L
NameDisplayable=Deck Watch 1st Leader
Type=Officer
IDLinkCrewMemberLoaded=LT-Watch
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D=WCS_05_dummy
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D=WCS_03_dummy
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=Binoclu_WCS
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects=Binoclu_WCS
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects=NULL

No scroll bar or option for conning tower emblem - same as before.

Just to confirm... I did not want to edit \My Documents\TBD\data\cfg\UPCInitial\ActiveUserPlayer Units.upc
Correct?

[lurker_hlb3]

ARGH... still no luck.


Sorry to here that it didn't work.

[Akula4745]

Lurker - Thank you for your help, sir. Tonight I will create a brand spanking new clean install - add the mods and save folder - then try again. If I am the only one with the problem it must be something on my end...

Can someone verify this has been added to an existing career and is working on a type VIIC... late 42'?

[etheberge]

Go to c:\Documents and Settings\xxxxx\My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\SaveGames
And your most current import save


Edit ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc

Fine the following:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 10]
ID=TarnmatteSlot
NameDisplayable=Tarnmatte Schnorkel Head Coating
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=No
ExternalNodeName3D=TAR
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=28
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

And insert this right after it

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 11]
ID=EmblemSlot
NameDisplayable=Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
ExternalNodeName3D=EMB
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D=-1
IDLinkEquipmentLoaded=NULL

Save and restart the game and the emblem addon should be there

Lurker, Akula and everyone else that wants to add this mod to an existing career,

I had the same problem as Akula, after adding the extra section as described above it still wasn't showing up in the selection screen.

It turns out there a second section that needs to be added.

Find the last section with the header [UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.UpgradePackSlot xx] --->the number here may vary depending on type of boat and time period, look for the last one.

Immediately below that section copy this new section:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1.UnitPart.UpgradePackSlot xx+1]
ID=UpgEmblem
NameDisplayable=Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=utypEmblemSmall
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkUpgradePackSlots=EmblemSlot
CurrentUpgradePack=
IDLinkUpgradePackSlotsLoaded=NULL

Be sure to replace xx+1 with the number appropriate in your new case.

This should work, it was tested with IIB in Sep. 1939.

[Akula4745]

Yer da bomb, big E! Will try it as soon as I am home from work.

WoO-HOo!

[etheberge]

Othr,

Found the problem with the emblem not showing up on the IID. There's a typo in UnitParts11IID.upc.

Change:
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 9]<------
ID= EmblemSlot
NameDisplayable= Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, NULL
ExternalNodeName3D= EMB
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1

to:
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 1.EquipmentSlot 8]<------
ID= EmblemSlot
NameDisplayable= Conning tower emblem
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=NULL
UserCustomizable=Yes
IDLinkEquipmentIntervalDefault1= NULL, NULL, NULL
ExternalNodeName3D= EMB
ExternalDamageZoneTypeID3D= -1

That did the trick for me. Tested with IID 1st Flotilla/Sept.1940.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=103&pictureid=771

[othr]

Thanks a bunch, most issues now fixed in 0.4.

[Akula4745]

Works like a champ now. My thanks to all who helped get me working!!

I played around with a few emblems and this method does not flip the image - so it works great for non-directional emblems like shields and such - directional emblems like the snorting bull, smiling sawfish, and leaping devil will be aiming forward on the port side... and to the rear on the starboard side. Risking a stupid question... is there a way to flip the image for opposing sides?

[etheberge]

Othr,

I think the 0.4 archive may be corrupted. I tried downloading twice from filefront but no joy.

Akula were you able to get the new version?

[lurker_hlb3]

Othr,

I think the 0.4 archive may be corrupted. I tried downloading twice from filefront but no joy.

Akula were you able to get the new version?

I can confirm that it is corrupted

[othr]

Uploading again

[othr]

Works like a champ now. My thanks to all who helped get me working!!

I played around with a few emblems and this method does not flip the image - so it works great for non-directional emblems like shields and such - directional emblems like the snorting bull, smiling sawfish, and leaping devil will be aiming forward on the port side... and to the rear on the starboard side. Risking a stupid question... is there a way to flip the image for opposing sides?

I'll look into that, if it means doubling the amount of entries in the .dat files and the UPC files I probably won't do it.

[Akula4745]

Not yet sir. Download was no good... but figured it was me.

[othr]

Is there a half decent file hosting site? Getting failures from filefront. I think I'll cut the placement kit out of this and offer it as a separate download to reduce the size of the archive.

[Akula4745]

http://depositfiles.com/en/

http://www.filefactory.com/

http://uploading.com/en/usignup.php

[othr]

OK thanks for that list, I used mediafire this round. Hopefully that works.

[etheberge]

You could also request access to add files in the Subsim downloads section. In the mean time one of us could also put it there for you as well.

[othr]

I'll try to get access to the download section here.

New url updated in the 1st post or here http://www.mediafire.com/?nmumtwimmx5

[othr]

Works like a champ now. My thanks to all who helped get me working!!

I played around with a few emblems and this method does not flip the image - so it works great for non-directional emblems like shields and such - directional emblems like the snorting bull, smiling sawfish, and leaping devil will be aiming forward on the port side... and to the rear on the starboard side. Risking a stupid question... is there a way to flip the image for opposing sides?

As etherberge pointed out this would be really easy to do, however, any emblems with text in them will get the 'mirrored' effect on one of the sides. That is a problem and there really is no easy way to approach this other than creating duplicates of already created emblems.

I guess there could be an addon on top of this addon to make what you want happen, pretty dirty and I don't like it but there really isn't much else we can do.

[etheberge]

I suppose it would be possible to include two versions of the .dat files, one with the emblem facing backwards on one side but not mirrored and the other with both sides facing forwards but one side mirrored.

Leave it up to the users to choose which one they want by manually copying the files or through JSGME. This way everyone could have their cake and eat it too.:woot:

[jaxa]

Two questions about this mod:
1. Is it included in the newest version of OMEGU V300 or V300 Patch 7?
2. If not where can I found it, because download link seems to be dead?

[Sailor Steve]

Yes, it is included in OMEGU v300. :sunny:

[jaxa]

Thanks Steve, you are reliable as usuall :up:

Another question about emblems in OM - in SH3/GWX I can choose favourite emblem from list and can see all available emblems. In OM there aren't any emblems to see, only "U-xxx emblem" info.
Is it normal or is it something wrong with my installation?