[WIP] Campaign files for VonDos' ships

[Wreford-Brown]

I've approached a number of ship builders and have received permission to use some of their ship models and script them into the campaign. The mod is stable and I'm waiting for further permissions to add the last few ships.

The list so far is:

VonDos - HMS Glorious, HMS Warspite, HS Dnepr, HS Gradisca, RHN Georgios Averof, RM Aquila, RM Caio Duilio, RM San Giorgio, RMS Aquitania, RMS Empress of Britain, RMS Laconia, RMS Queen Elizabeth, RMS Queen Mary, RMS Titanic, SS Arandora Star, SS Esperia, SS Normandie, SS Rex, USS West Point

jimbuna - Q Ship

Mikhayl - Luftwaffe Rescue Buoy, Maiale

rowi58 converted by yamatoforever - Large Old Merchant, Medium Old Oiler, Old Split Merchant, Small Old Oiler

rowi58 and trainer1942 converted by yamatoforever - USS Omaha, Old Composite Freighter, New Modern Composite Merchant, Old Composite Merchant

AOTD_MadMax converted by yamatoforever - USS Enterprise, USS Saratoga

AOTD_Rhonen converted by yamatoforever - HMS Queen Elizabeth

AH_Thor - Churruca Class

[Draka]

Like to try - not sure if my system is up to it. At least ya'll know if a minimal spec system will run it!

[Borgneface]

S! Wreford-Brown
I am ready to try...Running with GWX3....so just let me know what exactly needs to be done ...You can PM me if you prefer :)

For once that I can help a moder....Please not that I am a French Kaleun but with rather good English...I think...LOL

Amicalement

[Wreford-Brown]

Beta has been uploaded to my FF page.

It is password protected and passwords have been sent to volunteers.

Notes for Beta testers:
1. Please can you read the Readme for typos, any additional info required etc. etc.
2. When testing, you need to have 'GWX 3 St Naz and Schluese and other units V4' enabled through JSGME (per the attached Readme).
3. After enabling 'GWX 3 St Naz and Schluese and other units V4' you can enable this mod using JSGME.
4. During testing, the only other mods you should use are the official GWX ones. This mod appears to be stable with all official GWX mods but I need the ability to fault find with no complications from any other ones you usually use.
5. Locations and times to look for ships are included in the Readme in the documentation folder. Please let us know which ship you're looking for so we don't all end up looking for the same one!
6. If you suffer a CTD, can you please let me know when and where it happened so I can fault find.
7. When you see a ship can you post a screen shot onto this WIP thread.
8. Good hunting!

[Borgneface]

S! Been trying to download the beta but filles keep been unavailable!
Something blocked on FFront. :hmmm:

[Wreford-Brown]

Try the last link on http://www.filefront.com/user/WrefordBrown

[Wreford-Brown]

I've received a couple of requests to create campaign files for VonDos' ships for other supermods, notably WAC.

The base file I've used is GWX 3.0 and one of the major differences in supermods can be the campaign file, so there could be a massive effect in gameplay.

Once I've finished beta testing for GWX I can look at other mods/supermods as long as I get the permission of the person who created the base campaign file.

[Wreford-Brown]

I've received permission from HanSolo78 to add VonDos' ships to his WAC mod. Once the GWX additions are tested and released I'll be switching to WAC.

[Rothwell white]

Looks good but i dont think the RMS Titanic should be on that list as she sunk in april 1912 with the loss of 1500 souls

[VonDos]

RMS Titanic should be placed in Bermuda Triangle for me, joiniyng USS Cyclops :rotfl2:

[Wreford-Brown]

Greyed out ships in the first post have been seen in game so my testers no longer need to look for them.

As GWX is a realism mod I'm going to leave out the Titanic.

Q-ships existed IRL and jimbuna's Q-ship is the closest anyone has got to a working model. I'll be including the Q-ship in the initial mod.

Once I've sorted out the GWX and WAC versions I can revisit other requests.

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Titanic should be placed in Bermuda Triangle for me, joiniyng USS Cyclops :rotfl2:

I've been playing this game for a while and have never, ever found the Cyclops despite some absolutely solid direction from the guy who scripted it into the campaign. Scripting it myself would be cheating!

[mr chris]

Am looking forward to seeing this released. Will make firing up SH3 GWX alot easier.
Shame im going away for a month next week.:dead:
Was thinking of Firing up SH3 once again.

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Queen Mary in the campaign:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSQueenMary.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

SS Arandora Star:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SSArandoraStar.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

HMS Warspite:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/HMSWarspite.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Queen Elizabeth:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSQueenElizabeth.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

I'm looking for a WAC 4.1 user who can test this mod for the WAC campaign. You'll need to search for one ship on 19 Apr 1940 so it could fit in with your current career (albeit with a spoiler).

Volunteers?

[Wreford-Brown]

HS Gradisca:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/HSGradisca.jpg

[Jimbuna]

I've been playing this game for a while and have never, ever found the Cyclops despite some absolutely solid direction from the guy who scripted it into the campaign. Scripting it myself would be cheating!

Oh she be there alright http://www.haunted-adventures.com/expo/ghost_animated.gif

[Wreford-Brown]

Q Ship:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/Q-ship.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Aquitania:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSAquitania.jpg

[Hunter]

I am don't undestand much with campaign files, but if some who nows how to edit them accurately could remove doubles from GWX campaign returning capital ships to be used by classes insted of separate units to reduce CPU and memery use for adding new ships and planes?

[SquareSteelBar]

I am don't undestand much with campaign files, but if some who nows how to edit them accurately could remove doubles from GWX campaign returning capital ships to be used by classes insted of separate units to reduce CPU and memery use for adding new ships and planes?Hi Hunter,

use SH3 MissionEditor to edit campaign files. It's part of SH3 -> RTFM ;)

Cheers,
SquareSteelBar

[Wreford-Brown]

I am don't undestand much with campaign files, but if some who nows how to edit them accurately could remove doubles from GWX campaign returning capital ships to be used by classes insted of separate units to reduce CPU and memery use for adding new ships and planes?

The ships are scripted separately so that they follow their historic routes. If capital ships were scripted by class instead of name, you could see the Hood, Warspite or Rodney rather than seeing the right ship at the right time.

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Laconia:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSLaconia.jpg

[Draka]

1 Sept 1939, somewhere near England:

"Ship sighted!"
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5435/rmsqueenmary1.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/rmsqueenmary1.jpg/)

Closing ......
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/736/rmsqueenmary2.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/rmsqueenmary2.jpg/)

Binocs in Close:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6954/rmsqueenmary3.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/rmsqueenmary3.jpg/)

If only we were at war ... BOOM!
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2030/rmsqueenmary4.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/i/rmsqueenmary4.jpg/)

[Hunter]

The ships are scripted separately so that they follow their historic routes. If capital ships were scripted by class instead of name, you could see the Hood, Warspite or Rodney rather than seeing the right ship at the right time.
It is clear, but concidering that those ships don't have historicaly accurate models it would be enough to have a ship from a proper class in proper place and time, and more resources for additional warshipsand and merchants.

[Wreford-Brown]

It is clear, but concidering that those ships don't have historicaly accurate models it would be enough to have a ship from a proper class in proper place and time, and more resources for additional warshipsand and merchants.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one as I believe that VonDos' ships are exceptionally accurate.

Any ship that has been accurately modelled in GWX is already included in the base campaign file, so the Bismarck will appear when you expect the Bismarck to appear etc. The GWX team went to a huge amount of time and effort to research historical campaigns and ship movements and script them into the mod. All I'm doing is adding VonDos' ships to the already superb campaign.

Unfortunately, longer load times are the price you have to pay for an historically accurate campaign.

[Task Force]

Cool stuff...:up: Wish I would have checked this thread earlyer...:yep:

[Wreford-Brown]

RMS Empress of Britain:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSEmpressofBritain.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

Cool stuff...:up: Wish I would have checked this thread earlyer...:yep:

Do you want to join the hunt for ships with the Beta?

[Task Force]

Sure, Ill finish my current patrol ready to test.:up:

[Wreford-Brown]

HMS Glorious:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/HMSGlorious.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

SS Rex:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SSRex.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

RN San Giorgio:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RNSanGiorgio.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

I thought we were all good but then... CTD Hell!

The mod is working great with everything except the last two ships, SS Esperia and HS Dnepr.

Load with just GWX - no problems
Load with all ships enabled - no problems.
Load with all campaign files - CTD
Load with campaign files for all ships except above two - no problems.
Load just campaign file for HS Dnepr (no GWX campaign) - no problems.
Load just campaign file for SS Esperia - no problems.
Load with either campaign file merged - CTD.

There seems to be a conflict between the campaigns for HS Dnepr, SS Esperia and the GWX campaign file. I've even rewritten the Dnepr campaign to ensure it's not a ship selection issue and it still CTD'd.

I'll be spending the weekend fault finding, watch this space!

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Just found this thread. Just wanted to say keep up the good work WB!

I'll be installing after the bugs are worked out, AND I get GWX3 reinstalled.:up:

[Task Force]

ok, im instaling this mod today, and starting testing, since we have the weekend now.

[Jimbuna]

I thought we were all good but then... CTD Hell!

The mod is working great with everything except the last two ships, SS Esperia and HS Dnepr.

Load with just GWX - no problems
Load with all ships enabled - no problems.
Load with all campaign files - CTD
Load with campaign files for all ships except above two - no problems.
Load just campaign file for HS Dnepr (no GWX campaign) - no problems.
Load just campaign file for SS Esperia - no problems.
Load with either campaign file merged - CTD.

There seems to be a conflict between the campaigns for HS Dnepr, SS Esperia and the GWX campaign file. I've even rewritten the Dnepr campaign to ensure it's not a ship selection issue and it still CTD'd.

I'll be spending the weekend fault finding, watch this space!

That's a bugga....I'm off this weekend if there's anything you require http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Wreford-Brown]

All the ships open in the museum so it's not a problem with the ships. What's weird is that the separate ship _SCR files all open and play well in the campaign, but as soon as I try to merge them I get a CTD.

The issues only start in late '42 so I'm looking for a scripting issue or ship conflict around that time. I'm guessing that there's a problem with one of the original GWX liners conflicting with VonDos' and causing a CTD.

The usual reason for CTDs is for the campaign to have a ship scripted into it that doesn't exist in the Roster or Sea files, so I think there may be a drama with my mod over writing one of the original GWX ships or adjusting it to the extent that the original GWX ship isn't recognised :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

I haven't checked because I'm not sure which version I have but have you expanded both ships entry and exit times to coincide with the total length of the war?

[Hunter]

Anyone to upload GWX campaign files with merged VonDos ships?

[Wreford-Brown]

I'm working on a mod that doesn't include the two trouble ships and should be able to u/l tonight.

I'll keep working on the full mod when the working one is uploaded.

[Wreford-Brown]

Found out what the problem was and mod is back on track.

HS Dnepr:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/HSDnepr.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Found out what the problem was and mod is back on track.

HS Dnepr:



Well....are we to be kept in suspenders....what was the problem?

[Wreford-Brown]

The problem was with my Esperia campaign file. I had a legacy ship in there that's not included in GWX, St Naz or my mod so anyone trying to play after Aug 1941 would suffer a CTD. I didn't find it during Esperia testing as I wasn't using a fresh install but had rolled back to what I thought were the base files. Lazy :down:. It will probably be a problem with my Esperia add on as well and I hope people backed up their campaign_SCR files as the Readme suggests. The problem will be sorted for the release of this mod.

I'm just glad that I've taken the time to test properly rather than rush the mod out. No deadline!

RM Aquila:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMAquila.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

For my Beta testers, a fixed version of the Beta (1.2) is on my FF site. Five to go!

Password remains the same.

[Vermin]

Dear WB,

Unfortunately I'm mid-patrol so it will be a little while before I can opt-in.

I could never sink the West Point even if I found - I once sailed in it!

Rgds

Vermin

[Wreford-Brown]

The more the merrier when it comes to testing. All I ask for is a screenshot from the campaign, either external view or preferably periscope/UZO.

Password sent.

[Hunter]

I'm working on a mod that doesn't include the two trouble ships and should be able to u/l tonight.


Oh! It is greate!

[Jimbuna]

The problem was with my Esperia campaign file. I had a legacy ship in there that's not included in GWX, St Naz or my mod so anyone trying to play after Aug 1941 would suffer a CTD. I didn't find it during Esperia testing as I wasn't using a fresh install but had rolled back to what I thought were the base files. Lazy :down:. It will probably be a problem with my Esperia add on as well and I hope people backed up their campaign_SCR files as the Readme suggests. The problem will be sorted for the release of this mod.

I'm just glad that I've taken the time to test properly rather than rush the mod out. No deadline!

RM Aquila:



Well spotted mate....pleased your sorted/almost there http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Wreford-Brown]

SS Normandie:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SSNormandie.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

USS West Point:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/USSWestPoint.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

I got a surprise on my latest test mission. I picked up a ship on hydrophones going fast and decided to investigate. As the mod is meant to, there out of the blue was the SS Esperia. Sorry for the bad screenie - I couldn't catch her:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SSEsperia.jpg

And the ship I was after, the RHN Georgios Averof:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RHNGeorgiosAverof.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

The final two.

RMS Titanic:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMSTitanic.jpg

RM Caio Duilio:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/RMCaioDuilio.jpg

[RawJoh1]

So is this no longer a WIP? As in it's fully tested, works fine etc? If so, that's brilliant!

One question: When you identify a ship, does it say "New RMS Titanic" (like in the above screenshot) or have you changed it so it simply says "RMS Titanic" or whatever?

[Wreford-Brown]

Fully tested and available on my mods page.

The "New" designation was just for testing. You'll just see "RMS Titanic" etc.

[RawJoh1]

Sounds great! Downloading now. Thanks Wreford-Brown.

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Nice job WB. Good attention to detail putting this together. Makes it a no brainer install for the noobs, and slow people like me.:rock:

[Wreford-Brown]

Thanks for release, but I didn't like this part I saw in readme: You may therefore sometimes see two of the same ship in a convoy as the random scripting would call for two of the original liners. e.g. it is entirely possible that you may see two Queen Elizabeth's in the same convoy if it has randomly spawned.

That's the way the ships are designed and the way that you would see them if you enabled them but didn't use my mod.

When the random script calls for two liners you may see two of the same type, but I've only seen this once and only with an Italian liner. It is, however, a possibility so I thought I'd include the possibility in the Readme.

BTW, thank you for reading the Readme - most people don't!:yeah:

[Wreford-Brown]

I've only seen it once and that was an Italian convoy. Try the mod and if you come across the same you can then disable the mod.

The same will happen regardless of whether you have the mod enabled or not - you'll just end up with two Troop ships or Chatham-type troop ships rather than named units.

[Wreford-Brown]

I've received permission from Mikhayl to add a couple of his ships to this mod so the number of ships is currently up to 22 from the original 19. Testing is ongoing but the mod appears stable with just one ship still to find.

I've also sent PMs to a few ship makers to ask permission to add their ships to this mod and script their creations into the campaign. If permission is received it should allow the total number of ships to exceed 30.

Watch this space...

[Wreford-Brown]

Mikhayl's Maiale:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/Maiale.jpg

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Keep up the good work WB!:yeah:

[Wreford-Brown]

Mikhayl's Rettungsboje:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/LuftwaffeRettungsboje.jpg

AH_Thor's Churruca:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SPSChurruca.jpg

There may be some debate about the Churruca - those who've been around for a while will understand. I fully believe that this is work done by AH_Thor before he took things a little too far. If anyone knows differently or would like the Churruca removed they should PM me.

[sergei]

Wow - how did I miss this one?
Outstanding work Wreford-Brown.
Am starting a new career this weekend, so this will make an excellent addition.:up:

[Wreford-Brown]

Rowi58 and yamatoforever have kindly agreed to allow me to use some of their ship models - Rowi58 created them for SH4 and yamatoforever converted them to SH3.

The number of ships in this mod has now grown from 19 to 25 and I'm still waiting for a couple of ship builders to get back to me.

[Wreford-Brown]

Four of rowi58's merchants converted by yamatoforever


Small Old Oiler:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/SmallOldOiler.jpg


Old Split Merchant:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/OldSplitMerchant.jpg


Medium Old Oiler:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/MediumOldOiler.jpg


Large Old Merchant:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/LargeOldMerchant.jpg

[Wreford-Brown]

AOTD_MadMax's aircraft carriers converted by yamatoforever:

USS Saratoga:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/USSSaratoga.jpg


USS Enterprise:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/USSEnterprise.jpg

[Hunter]

Rowi58 and yamatoforever have kindly agreed to allow me to use some of their ship models -

It is really great news!

[melnibonian]

Good Stuff WB :up:

When can we expect the rest of the ships? (so far I have counted 18 without the Titanic and the Q Ship) Am I missing something?

[Wreford-Brown]

I'm waiting for two permissions. One is for a single warship, the other for three merchants and a warship.

I'll update the first thread with the list of 29 approved ships so far.

[Wreford-Brown]

AOTD_Rhonen's HMS Queen Elizabeth converted by yamatoforever:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/HMSQueenElizabeth.jpg

[melnibonian]

I'm waiting for two permissions. One is for a single warship, the other for three merchants and a warship.

I'll update the first thread with the list of 29 approved ships so far.

Thanks mate :up:

Much Appreciated :yep:

[Wreford-Brown]

rowi58 and trainer1942 converted by yamatoforever:

USS Omaha:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/USSOmaha.jpg

Old Composite Merchant:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/OldCompositeMerchant.jpg

Old Composite Freighter:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/OldCompositeFreighter.jpg

Modern Composite Merchant:

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Wreford-Brown/ModernCompositeMerchant.jpg

[tomfon]

Hello. It seems that i can't reach the filefront page to download the ''no-Titanic'' version of this mod. Any alternatives or help would be much appreciated.:yep:
Thank you.

[melnibonian]

I'm sorry if it's a silly question but I see that you have a new fix released named "22 Dec 09 - TMT fix for additional ships mod". Any idea where I can get it? I can't seem to be able to find it in your Filefront Page.

[Wreford-Brown]

@mel - Try here: http://www.filefront.com/15207045/WBs-additional-ships-TMT-fix.rar/
If that doesn't work I'll u/l to another place for you.

@tomfon - It seems to be MIA. I'll upload it back to FF as soon as I can.

EDIT: Both of these mods are available in the '23 additional ships' mod.

[Wreford-Brown]

The latest version of this mod is an additional 23 ships - I've posted the reasons for the seemingly retrograde step on my mod page.

Any further questions/requests should be posted on my mod page at: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137713

[tomfon]

Hello there.
This is a great update WB. Thank you.:up:
By the way, what is MIA? I'm sorry but its quite late here...
Also, i have some good news. Filefront seems to be working for me now. I've just downloaded the mod.

[Wreford-Brown]

Missing In Action.

[tomfon]

Missing In Action.

Hehe, not yet.:03: