The SUBSIM NFL 2009 thread

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens pull one from the Squeelers. :yeah::D

Farve...he is having a great year and is making some of his team mates pro-bowl players.

[mookiemookie]

Tonight we find out if the 'Aints are for real! Can't wait! :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

My money is on the Saints! :03:

[nikimcbee]

Who dat?:salute:

[geetrue]

Generals keep making mistakes 4th and 2 in one game and 4th and 4 in this one ... :hmmm:

The Saints blew them away 38 - 17 :yeah:

[mookiemookie]

Miserable game. My opinion of the Saints has gone up a bit.

[AVGWarhawk]

You know what I liked best about the Saints/Pats game....the Saints kept on scoring and did not relent. The same method the Pats use and have been criticized on. I'm glad to see the Saints crush the Pats into the ground. :yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

So Neal, do you still love Peyton?

Team subsim torpedoed by Manning:doh:

Haha, yeah, I forgive him. The Texans did it to themselves.

The Saints are for real. I'm crossing my fingers for a Saints-Colts 16-0 Superbowl.

[AVGWarhawk]

That would be an exciting Super Bowl. Much more exciting if the Ravens make it. :O:

[nikimcbee]

Haha, yeah, I forgive him. The Texans did it to themselves.

The Saints are for real. I'm crossing my fingers for a Saints-Colts 16-0 Superbowl.

Minor type-o, you mean Vikings-Colts in the superbowl.:yeah:

[ReallyDedPoet]

My opinion of the Saints has gone up a bit.

:yep:

They can score at will and their defense is not that shabby either.

[RickC Sniper]

Minor type-o, you mean Vikings-Colts in the superbowl.:yeah:


I'd like to see the Vikings play the Saints in the playoffs, but the Vikes need to get better at their pass defense sometime between now and then.

[nikimcbee]

I'd like to see the Vikings play the Saints in the playoffs, but the Vikes need to get better at their pass defense sometime between now and then.

You are totally correct!

[RickC Sniper]

Just thought I'd share this. I found it posted at Thehuddle ffl website. I thought it was pretty funny.


Brett Favre (http://www.thehuddle.com/nfl/player/1025/) - QB - Minnesota Vikings Posted 12/3/09 11:33am et http://www.thehuddle.com/images/twitter_thumb2.gif (http://www.twitter.com/?status=@TheHuddle.com+Brett+Favre+-+Favre+named+NFC+Offensive+Player+of+the+Month+-+http://www.thehuddle.com/fantasy_football_news.php)The Minnesota Vikings announced QB Brett Favre has been named NFC Offensive Player of the Month for November. Favre was 91-for-130 for 1,193 yards with 12 touchdown passes and zero interceptions in four games.
Huddle Up: It's all Favre, all the time in Minnesota. In addition to his stellar stats, Favre has patched up the Liberty Bell, righted the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and cured the common cold. He's also walked on water, though in Minnesota most lakes are frozen year-round so that's not as impressive as it might sound. Oh, and Favre's penchant for the touchdown pass has taken a big bite out of Adrian Peterson's scoring potential. See, he's not perfect.

[geetrue]

Brett Favre (http://www.thehuddle.com/nfl/player/1025/) - QB and the Minnesota Vikings go together real good.

They always were a passing team and then they got that great running back to make them even better (who just got caught speeding 109 mph)

Now they have Brett Favre and they are thinking superbowl

I think a lot of people around here owe Brett Favre with a, "I'm sorry I thought your were all washed up Brett"

Like a good hambuger vs a fast food one ... you just need the right ingredients and a lot of love.

[gutted]

Saints win super bowl... thread over.:)

[Onkel Neal]

I don't know if I thought Favre was ever washed up, I did say he was a serious self-absorbed drama queen. I will say he is playing the best football ever currently. I'm still waiting to see if he "Favre's Up" the Big Game in the playoffs with a slew of up-for-grab passes that end up getting picked off.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens/Packers this weekend! Were are the Packer fans? :hmmm:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ravens/Packers this weekend! Were are the Packer fans? :hmmm:

Present :DL

http://i.packers.com/images/fans/gforce_banner.gif

[AVGWarhawk]

I knew I would call you out of the bushes sir! Head to head Monday! Prepare for a spank'in! :O: Poking eyes out of dead carcasses since 1996.


http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/ravenman4/ravens.gif

[Pacific_Ace]

Saints win super bowl... thread over.:)

I watched them dismember the Pats last weekend.
As a Colts fan this made me very happy :woot:
As a Colts fan this made me very sad as well. I was deeply impressed with the Saints on both sides of the ball. I can see a Colts/Saints Super Bowl coming and if we don't have our defense back in place it could be a long day for Peyton. If we do have our defense back healthy it is likely to be one of the best Super Bowls that will ever be played.

[Onkel Neal]

Wowwee! Texas is in the BCS Championship game. Man, that was cutting it too close.

Tomorrow, I'm gonna record the Raiders-Stellers game to watch later and watch the Colts-Titans live, that will be a great game.

[nikimcbee]

Wowwee! Texas is in the BCS Championship game. Man, that was cutting it too close.

Tomorrow, I'm gonna record the Raiders-Stellers game to watch later and watch the Colts-Titans live, that will be a great game.

You're actually going to watch a raiders game:o. I heard Davis is going to make Russell his fanchise QB for evah!:har:

[nikimcbee]

I knew I would call you out of the bushes sir! Head to head Monday! Prepare for a spank'in! :O: Poking eyes out of dead carcasses since 1996.


http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/ravenman4/ravens.gif


Here AVG, here are some condiments for your lunchmeat Rodgers sandwich:har:. There should be more than enough cheese there. White or wheat:hmmm::har:

Now if everybody wears (on the Ravens D) a Jared Allen jersey, Rodgers will just curl up in a ball to avoid the painful sack, like an aardvark.:har:

[nikimcbee]

Ravens/Packers this weekend! Were are the Packer fans? :hmmm:

What happen to all the bears fans? Have they gone into hibernation?

[Onkel Neal]

:()1: OHHH! I changed my plan and watched the Raiders game live, taped the Colts. Glad I did, Raiders beat the Steelers in the last 09 seconds on a 25 yd TD pass! :yeah:

[gutted]

OMG Saints game was a heart stopper!

Good showing by the skins, but we never gave up and won in OT.

12-0 baby!!!

[Pacific_Ace]

Wowwee! Texas is in the BCS Championship game. Man, that was cutting it too close.

Tomorrow, I'm gonna record the Raiders-Stellers game to watch later and watch the Colts-Titans live, that will be a great game.

As much as I am in favor of the Horns getting a shot, I would have loved for them to lose so that a small school like Cincy got a shot. I think its sad that Congress has to take time to deal with BCS, but its beyond clear that BCS is bullsheet and needs to go away in favor of a playoff system.

[mookiemookie]

Texans fans should feel like Rhianna: We keep getting beaten by Chris Brown. What a loser that guy is.

There's always next year, I guess.

[nikimcbee]

As much as I am in favor of the Horns getting a shot, I would have loved for them to lose so that a small school like Cincy got a shot. I think its sad that Congress has to take time to deal with BCS, but its beyond clear that BCS is bullsheet and needs to go away in favor of a playoff system.

Wha? when did they meddle in the BCS?:shifty:

[nikimcbee]

Pizza...check:woot:
Buffalo wings... check:woot:

Rocky McBee on couch ready to help me eat buffalo wings...check
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3414/rockyvike2ds3.jpg

Hot wing sauce for roasted AZ cardinal wings.... check:woot:

Ready for launch:salute:

[Pacific_Ace]

Wha? when did they meddle in the BCS?:shifty:
This coming week they begin meddling.

[Onkel Neal]

Texans fans should feel like Rhianna: We keep getting beaten by Chris Brown. What a loser that guy is.

There's always next year, I guess.


Yeah, last few games their kicker Kris Brown blew it, now their running back Chris Brown blows it twice... they should purge all Kris/Chris Browns from their team.:cool:

[nikimcbee]

So much for the win:shifty:, but the party was fun!:woot:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1341/footballparty004.jpg


My new best friend... buffalo wings:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9427/footballparty005.jpg

[DeerHunter UK]

So much for the win:shifty:, but the party was fun!:woot:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1341/footballparty004.jpg


My new best friend... buffalo wings:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9427/footballparty005.jpg

How do you manage to type, do you have big keys for your paws or what?

[Onkel Neal]

So much for the win:shifty:, but the party was fun!:woot:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1341/footballparty004.jpg


My new best friend... buffalo wings:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9427/footballparty005.jpg

Where's the alka-seltser? For the wings and for Favre, who I see is throwing the ball wildly again...I guess it's that time of the year again (sez the trash-talkin' Raider fan, lol)

[ReallyDedPoet]

I knew I would call you out of the bushes sir! Head to head Monday! Prepare for a spank'in! :O: Poking eyes out of dead carcasses since 1996.


http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/ravenman4/ravens.gif

For a preview: Here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009120700/2009/REG13/ravens@packers#tab:preview)
Here (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-previews/09000d5d814aeab1/Week-13-Ravens-vs-Packers-Preview)
Check out the poll as well :)

[ReallyDedPoet]

So much for the win:shifty:, but the party was fun!:woot:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1341/footballparty004.jpg


My new best friend... buffalo wings:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9427/footballparty005.jpg

Yeah, what happened to the Favvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvray :O:

[AVGWarhawk]

For a preview: Here (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009120700/2009/REG13/ravens@packers#tab:preview)
Here (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-previews/09000d5d814aeab1/Week-13-Ravens-vs-Packers-Preview)
Check out the poll as well :)

Meh...the Packers are going down baby! :rock:

[nikimcbee]

Meh...the Packers are going down baby! :rock:

So, are yousa guys going to pull it off? 1 quarter to go:hmmm:

[Aramike]

So, are yousa guys going to pull it off? 1 quarter to go:hmmm:Looks good from where I sit!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Meh...the Packers are going down baby! :rock:

:O:

[AVGWarhawk]

Typical flag-fest for the Ravens! If the Ravens were selling apple turnovers that would be one thing but unfortunate the Ravens were selling football turnovers and the Packers were buying. :shifty: These are the two things that kill the Ravens game after game. They make a career out of it! I called it a day at the half because I knew were the game was going and there was a second set of goal posts I wanted to get between before bedtime :shucks:. Oddly enough, we are still in the wild card hunt. Real long shot.......real looooooooooooong..........did I mention reeeeeaallly llloooonnnngggg :shifty: Flags for everyone!

[ReallyDedPoet]

I called it a day at the half because I knew were the game was going and there was a second set of goal posts I wanted to get between before bedtime :shucks:.

To much information :D

And yes it was an ugly game, by both sides, but a win is a win :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

Yes, a win is a win in football. Not like baseball were there are three games played against the same team. Not once but several times during the season. Funny thing about football, the Saints could win all season but lose the very first playoff game ending the run. Baseball, World Series, seven games if needed. Makes a difference when you can say, "We will get'em tomorrow." That is the only thing I hate about football. For the players, physically, I can understand. Imagine a if they played as many games as the baseball players do. :o Football is sudden death. One play, one foul, one mistake and it could be all she wrote.

[Onkel Neal]

Yes, a win is a win in football. Not like baseball were there are three games played against the same team. Not once but several times during the season. Funny thing about football, the Saints could win all season but lose the very first playoff game ending the run. Baseball, World Series, seven games if needed. Makes a difference when you can say, "We will get'em tomorrow." That is the only thing I hate about football. For the players, physically, I can understand. Imagine a if they played as many games as the baseball players do. :o Football is sudden death. One play, one foul, one mistake and it could be all she wrote.


Haha, game on! That's the thing I love about football. :D Let's argue about the nature of sudden death in football. I have always supported the concept that the stakes are paramount in every game, and even more so in OT. There ain't no tomorrow in football, it's kill or be killed, sudden death is awesome. :yeah: "One play, one foul, one mistake and it could be all she wrote. " Thaaat's right :) You better deliver when it's crunch time, cause there ain't no do-overs or second chances, like in the more relaxed and forgiving baseball. This is war! One play, one yard--a game-winning catch with one toe dragging in the corner of the endzone with no time remaining--can be all that separates greatness from despair.

Now, rebuttal please. :)

[AVGWarhawk]

Haha, game on! That's the thing I love about football. :D Let's argue about the nature of sudden death in football. I have always supported the concept that the stakes are paramount in every game, and even more so in OT. There ain't no tomorrow in football, it's kill or be killed, sudden death is awesome. :yeah: "One play, one foul, one mistake and it could be all she wrote. " Thaaat's right :) You better deliver when it's crunch time, cause there ain't no do-overs or second chances, like in the more relaxed and forgiving baseball. This is war! One play, one yard--a game-winning catch with one toe dragging in the corner of the endzone with no time remaining--can be all that separates greatness from despair.

Now, rebuttal please. :)

I can not volley fire when I agree 100%! It is now or never in football. That is what drives me nuts. Like I said, the Saints could win every game in the regular season and then find themselves packing (no pun Kevin :O:) in the first round of playoffs. It is wild no doubt.

[Onkel Neal]

Oh. :06:

I did find it refreshing that the coach, Sean Peyton of the Saints says they are not taking their foot off the gas all the way through the season, as opposed to the strategy the Colts employ annually, of securing HFA and resting their starters. I don't know if I am sold on that being the best way to reach the SB... will be interesting to watch dem Saints openly go for 16-0.

[AVGWarhawk]

Patriots did it but lost to the Giants...two years ago. That is what sucks for a team who kicks butt all season and then have one off day...just happens to be super bowl day. :x

[Pacific_Ace]

Oh. :06:

I did find it refreshing that the coach, Sean Peyton of the Saints says they are not taking their foot off the gas all the way through the season, as opposed to the strategy the Colts employ annually, of securing HFA and resting their starters. I don't know if I am sold on that being the best way to reach the SB... will be interesting to watch dem Saints openly go for 16-0.

Hopefully this will change this time since Tony is gone. What would be completely awesome is two undefeated teams in the SB.
How epic would that be? :rock:

[AVGWarhawk]

The kicker for the Red Skins has been dismissed. Wonder why :hmmm: :har:

[CaptainHaplo]

Keep dreaming. The Panthers will beat the Saints in the last regular season game.

Many reasons for this.

#1 - No Jake Delhomme to gift wrap turnovers for the Saint's D - Go MATT MOORE!

#2 - Division games are always tough - but we will be going in to that game likely 5 and 9. They will overlook us - thinking of that week of rest they will get during wildcard week.

#3 - Ron Meeks, Jeff Davidson and MANY Panther players will be fighting for their jobs - either with Carolina or with other teams in the league. The Saints will have ONE thing to play for - a shared record.

#4 - NFC South teams historically play spoiler on each other - whether it be playoff hopes, HFA or in this case a "perfect" season.

#5 - Did I mention no Jake Delhomme playing for the opposing team????

[Pacific_Ace]

I forgot Carolina had a football team. :zzz:
The Saints will still win it, simply because they can.

[nikimcbee]

Damn, the steelers are sinking faster than the Lustitania:o.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Damn, the steelers are sinking faster than the Lustitania:o.

:yep:

0-2 against Oakland and Cleveland....:nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

Damn, the steelers are sinking faster than the Lustitania:o.


Good for me! :D

[ReallyDedPoet]

Good for me! :D

My Packers http://www.stlouisrams.com/MediaContent//4/9/small_packers_41540.gif as well :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

One more game under the belt. We might make the play-offs but that is where it will end I'm sure.

Detroit....I never felt so sorry for a team as Detroit. They do not play as a team. The players are just kind of out there without any management. The need some structure.

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2009/09000d5d814eb7ab_gallery_600.jpg

:DL

[AVGWarhawk]

That is a big boo-boo bandage on his elbow. :hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I ask again, where have all the bearz fanz gone?
everybody sing along:woot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxEv...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxEvv4_8Mk&feature=related)

[AVGWarhawk]

Dem Bears can still keep on sucking. We see them in Baltimore this weekend.

[ReallyDedPoet]

That is a big boo-boo bandage on his elbow. :hmmm:

:D:D

[mookiemookie]

In what is no doubt a confidence inspiring move for JaMarcus Russell, the Raiders have signed JP Losman as an insurance policy for the hurt Gradkowski:

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/895602.html

[ReallyDedPoet]

In what is no doubt a confidence inspiring move for JaMarcus Russell, the Raiders have signed JP Losman as an insurance policy for the hurt Gradkowski:

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/895602.html

Russell dug his grave at least for this season with his earlier lackluster efforts.
He needs to do a Vince Young and realize he is in the NFL. Young seems much more focused
since his stint on the bench.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, man. Al Davis is not done screwing the Raiders, it's pretty likely JaMeatLoaf was his darling, and DHB as well this year. Together, they rep two very high draft picks totally gone to waste. :wah:

[geetrue]

I'm thinking about buying the Oakland Raiders for a reduced price and then moving them to Yuma, Arizona ...

That's when I will rename them the Johnny Yuma's :yeah:

[nikimcbee]

Yeah, man. Al Davis is not done screwing the Raiders, it's pretty likely JaMeatLoaf was his darling, and DHB as well this year. Together, they rep two very high draft picks totally gone to waste. :wah:

Good thing you have the Texans:o.

[DeerHunter UK]

J.P. Losman has been brought in by the Raiders. A question arose over whether he might get the start on Sunday against the Donkeys. Obviously he won't start but this was my favourite quote over on the NFL UK forum...

"Still a hell of a lot better than Fatboy, and he will know more of the playbook than Fatboy by Sunday." :DL

[nikimcbee]

breaking news: Chris Henry, WR Bungles, dead! WTH?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CL7AMG0&show_article=1

[nikimcbee]

I'm thinking about buying the Oakland Raiders for a reduced price and then moving them to Yuma, Arizona ...

That's when I will rename them the Johnny Yuma's :yeah:
:har:

[RickC Sniper]

"Still a hell of a lot better than Fatboy, and he will know more of the playbook than Fatboy by Sunday." :DL

ROFL

Wait.......did you say Donkeys? :nope:


;)

[AVGWarhawk]

So much snow here in Baltimore I'm not sure if the Bears can make it in!

[GoldenRivet]

Cowboys Destroy the Saints hopes of a perfect season :rock::rock::rock::rock:

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=303040

[Onkel Neal]

Cowboys need to dump that kicker!

[CaptainHaplo]

While I was pulling for the saints to win out of division loyalty - this loss helps my Panthers. We won't make the playoffs - but the Saints will have little reason to play hard in 2 weeks now....

[Aramike]

So Chad Ochocinco wants to wear Chris Henry's jersey number - and NFL rules prohibit it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4756880

You know, to be completely honest with you, for most any other player I would believe they should just go ahead and do it, and incur the fines. But really, doesn't anyone TRULY believe this stunt is about a memorial to Chris Henry?

To be honest, given his history I think this is all about Chad 85. Which would make it one of the most tasteless stunts in NFL history.

[nikimcbee]

Poor cheezheadz:haha::haha:

...not:haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ochocindo is a showboater. The entire team should wear a sleeve patch.

[Onkel Neal]

Whoooo! Raiduz went through QBs today like crazy, we even had JP Losman in for one play, and he just joined the team Thursday :haha: No matter, Raiduz win in another last second upset of a playoff contender:woot:

[nikimcbee]

Speaking of down cheezheadz, how are you doing Mike, since your accident? Anything new? Hope you're feeling better.:shucks:

[mookiemookie]

To be honest, given his history I think this is all about Chad 85. Which would make it one of the most tasteless stunts in NFL history.

Actually, from what I've heard, they were very very close. He's been taking Chris Henry's death very hard. So I don't think it was about Ochocinco, but one can be forgiven for thinking that.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, probably true.

How about them Vikings? Is Favre still going strong? I tuned in for the last couple minutes to see him wing an INT. He looked really good early-mid season, wondering if he is starting to fade, though.

[nikimcbee]

Yeah, probably true.

How about them Vikings? Is Favre still going strong? I tuned in for the last couple minutes to see him wing an INT. He looked really good early-mid season, wondering if he is starting to fade, though.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t9D_ovmGhQE/SumWbufJXDI/AAAAAAAAbnM/bh21MrukK28/s400/Charlie+Brown+Lucy+football.jpg

WTH happen to their defense? And what happen to their offensive 1-2 punch?:shifty:

On a side note, for FF, I think I'd have just has much luck picking players by flipping a coin as opposed to looking at data:shifty:. And, if the the vikes gave up another score, I would have won my ff game.:shifty:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens, Greenbay still in the wildcard hunt :up::D

The Ravens control their own destiny.

[Onkel Neal]

And my Raiders helped my Texans!

So, let's see, who do you think will make the AFC wildcard cutoff over the next two weeks? Wanna make some predictions? :DL

Indy has won the South, SD has won the West.

Division Leaders:
Pats is leading East Division by two games; 9-5 & plays home to JAX, then at Hou
Bengals leads thr North Division by one game, No. 4 seed still up for grabs; owns head-to-head tiebreaker with Ravens; 9-5 * plays KC, at NYJ


Wild Card Hopefuls:
Ravens (control their own destiny; 8-6 / at Pit, at Oak);
Broncos (control their own destiny; 8-6 / at Phi, KC)

Outside Looking In, But Sill Alive: Just about everyone (except Oakland:wah:).

Jaguars (best standing among the six teams; 7-7 / at NE, at Clev)
Dolphins (need to win out; 7-7 / HOU, PIT)
Jets (need to win out and hope 9-7 is good enough to get in -- not looking good; 7-7 / at Indy, CIN)
Steelers (alive, but barely; 7-7 / BAL, at Mia)
Titans (need to win out to even have a chance ... and a slim chance at that; 7-7 / SD, at Sea)
Texans (it's not looking good, even if they win out, buncha peeps gotta lose; 7-7 / at Mia, NE)

Great article http://www.outsports.com/os/index.php/component/content/article/53-2009-nfl/283-nfl-week-15-its-all-about-the-playoffs

Love the following bits :D

The Broncos started the season 6-0, yet are now clinging to a playoff spot after losing 20-19 at home to the Raiders and the hideous QB JeMarcus Russell. Losing to Russell is like losing a game of darts to a blind man with no arms

Brett Favre suddenly looks like a 40-year-old quarterback and the Vikings have some real problems. Their defense was shredded in the fourth quarter by unknown QB Matt Moore and the Carolina Panthers, 26-7, in a game that saw Favre harassed all night and led to the Vikes' lowest point total of the season. This game was on national TV, as was the 30-17 loss two weeks ago to Arizona, in another game where Favre did not play well. Last week, the Vikings blasted the Bengals, but Favre threw for only 191 yards.
Coach Brad Childress tried to yank Favre Sunday night, even though Minnesota was leading Carolina, 7-6. This was to prevent Favre from becoming a pinata for Panthers rush demon Julius Peppers, who was abusing anybody the Vikings sent to block him.
“Brad wanted to go in a different direction. And I wanted to stay in the game,” Favre said. “It’s not 70-6, but we were up 7-6. I said I’m staying in the game. I’m playing.” Favre the drama queen strikes again.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Squealers will be the Ravens undoing. :dead:

[RickC Sniper]

The Broncos are pretenders. When they look bad, they look REALLY bad.
I can't see them beating Philly.

[Aramike]

Speaking of down cheezheadz, how are you doing Mike, since your accident? Anything new? Hope you're feeling better.:shucks:Aye, doing well, I was just about at, say, 80%. Then the Steelers scored as time expired. Now I'm back to 50%. :doh:

Appreciate the inquiry though! :rock:

[Aramike]

This game was on national TV, as was the 30-17 loss two weeks ago to Arizona, in another game where Favre did not play well. Last week, the Vikings blasted the Bengals, but Favre threw for only 191 yards.Okay, so this is more anecdotal than anything else, but it always *seemed* that Favre struggled in national TV games late in his GB career.

[Onkel Neal]

And my Raiders helped my Texans!

So, let's see, who do you think will make the AFC wildcard cutoff over the next two weeks? Wanna make some predictions? :DL

Indy has won the South, SD has won the West.

Division Leaders:
Pats is leading East Division by two games; 9-5 & plays home to JAX, then at Hou
Bengals leads thr North Division by one game, No. 4 seed still up for grabs; owns head-to-head tiebreaker with Ravens; 9-5 * plays KC, at NYJ


Wild Card Hopefuls:
Ravens (control their own destiny; 8-6 / at Pit, at Oak);
Broncos (control their own destiny; 8-6 / at Phi, KC)

Outside Looking In, But Sill Alive: Just about everyone (except Oakland:wah:).

Jaguars (best standing among the six teams; 7-7 / at NE, at Clev)
Dolphins (need to win out; 7-7 / HOU, PIT)
Jets (need to win out and hope 9-7 is good enough to get in -- not looking good; 7-7 / at Indy, CIN)
Steelers (alive, but barely; 7-7 / BAL, at Mia)
Titans (need to win out to even have a chance ... and a slim chance at that; 7-7 / SD, at Sea)
Texans (it's not looking good, even if they win out, buncha peeps gotta lose; 7-7 / at Mia, NE)

Great article http://www.outsports.com/os/index.php/component/content/article/53-2009-nfl/283-nfl-week-15-its-all-about-the-playoffs

Love the following bits :D

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Ok, I'll take a crack at this :doh:

Week 16
Chargers at Titans - Chargers
Texans at Dolphins - Texans
Jaguars at Patriots - Patriots
Chiefs at Bengals - Bengals
Ravens at Steelers - Steelers
Broncos at Eagles - Eagles
Jets at Colts - Colts


Week 17
Jaguars at Browns - Jags
Bengals at Jets - Bengals
Patriots at Texans - Texans
Steelers at Dolphins - Steelers
Titans at Seahawks - Titans
Ravens at Raiders - Ravens
Redskins at Chargers - Chargers
Chiefs at Broncos - Broncos

So, if these predictions play out, when the dust settles,

Colts will win the South 16-0
Chargers win the West 13-3
Patriots win the East 10-6
Bengals win the North 11-5

That leaves
Broncos 9-7
Ravens 9-7
Texans 9-7
Steelers 9-7
Titans 8-8
Jags 8-8
Dolphins 7-9
Jets 7-9

Meaning (if I have the tie breakers right), Ravens and Broncos go in as wildcards.

But if KC can upset Denver, Houston should be in!

[AVGWarhawk]

Good predictions Neal. However, each game is a throw down do or die.

Here is a question on teams that are out of the running....do you think they drag their feet when playing because in the end the game is meaningless to them or do you believe they go all out?

[ReallyDedPoet]

do you think they drag their feet when playing because in the end the game is meaningless to them or do you believe they go all out?

I think most relish being in the spoiler position. Preventing another team from winning\moving on to the playoffs can make up for a season of failures.

[Onkel Neal]

Drew Brees! The coolest 5 minutes on youttube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4&feature=related) :o

[AVGWarhawk]

I think most relish being in the spoiler position. Preventing another team from winning\moving on to the playoffs can make up for a season of failures.

Possibly. If I were a coach I would play my other guys on the team. Set up for next year type deal.

[Onkel Neal]

Good predictions Neal. However, each game is a throw down do or die.

Here is a question on teams that are out of the running....do you think they drag their feet when playing because in the end the game is meaningless to them or do you believe they go all out?

Hard to say, I think they start the game trying 100%, out of professionalism, job security, and pride. But if their team gets behind, they are more likely to quit and just get it over with. In the next two weekends, about the only teams out of it in the AFC chase are the Chiefs, Browns, and Seabirds.

Okay, so this is more anecdotal than anything else, but it always *seemed* that Favre struggled in national TV games late in his GB career.


Yeah, and I heard reports today that the Vikes coach is extremely pissed at Favre for unbenching himself. Oh my, this is gonna be good. :dead:

[geetrue]

Possibly. If I were a coach I would play my other guys on the team. Set up for next year type deal.

I think that's what the Indy Colts did last year, took it easy for the last couple of games and then lost to San Diego in the AFC playoffs first game.

In fact the last time Indy lost was in the AFC playoffs last year after it was already determined that the MVP was Manning who was also voted to the pro bowl and then they got beat by San Diego and remember Rivers was not voted to the pro bowl.

Same this year it's all about the undefeated Colts and how good Manning is, but in fact there is a good chance that the same thing will happen to Indy again this year on the way to the Super Bowl and get beat by the San Diego Chargers in the playoff AFC title game.


Week 16
Chargers at Titans - Chargers
Texans at Dolphins - Dolphins
Jaguars at Patriots - Patriots
Chiefs at Bengals - Bengals
Ravens at Steelers - Ravens
Broncos at Eagles - Broncos
Jets at Colts - Colts


Week 17
Jaguars at Browns - Jags
Bengals at Jets - Bengals
Patriots at Texans - Patriots
Steelers at Dolphins - Steelers
Titans at Seahawks - Titans
Ravens at Raiders - Ravens
Redskins at Chargers - Chargers
Chiefs at Broncos - Broncos


I changed a few of them mostly Texans and Ravens, but I don't know what that comes out to for the playoffs.

I see a lot of them struggling at seven losses, but remember San Diego won the last four games last year to finish 8-8 and went to the playoffs.

[AVGWarhawk]

You got the Ravens beating the Steelers!!! Good man, good man! :yeah:

[mr chris]

Anyone think Chris Johnson will beat the all time rushing yards in a season?

[Onkel Neal]

No, I don't think he can do it in 2 games. He would need something like 190 yards per game. It's possible... but who knows.

[Onkel Neal]

This is a nice toy! Playoff sorter online. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=WinningPct) :yeah:

Charger looked primed for the playoff, they manhandled TT.

[nikimcbee]

Wow, I found the ravens playbook on-line:

1. Get pistol.
2. insert round
3. aim at foot
4. pull trigger
5. repeat as necessary
:o

[Aramike]

Packers just annihilated the Seahawks on their way into the playoffs. So good they were, Rodgers sat out the 4th quarter - killing my fantasy football team. :x:yeah:;):smug::ping:

[Torplexed]

Wow, I found the ravens playbook on-line:

1. Get pistol.
2. insert round
3. aim at foot
4. pull trigger
5. repeat as necessary
:o

Same as the Seahawks playbook. Just substitute head for foot. :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

Wow, I found the ravens playbook on-line:

1. Get pistol.
2. insert round
3. aim at foot
4. pull trigger
5. repeat as necessary
:o

Ravens=Implosions R Us! :shifty:

[Onkel Neal]

.

Ok, I'll take a crack at this :doh:

Week 16
Chargers at Titans - Chargers
Texans at Dolphins - Texans
Jaguars at Patriots - Patriots
Chiefs at Bengals - Bengals
Ravens at Steelers - Steelers
Broncos at Eagles - Eagles
Jets at Colts - Colts


Week 17
Jaguars at Browns - Jags
Bengals at Jets - Bengals
Patriots at Texans - Texans
Steelers at Dolphins - Steelers
Titans at Seahawks - Titans
Ravens at Raiders - Ravens
Redskins at Chargers - Chargers
Chiefs at Broncos - Broncos

So, if these predictions play out, when the dust settles,

Colts will win the South 16-0
Chargers win the West 13-3
Patriots win the East 10-6
Bengals win the North 11-5

That leaves
Broncos 9-7
Ravens 9-7
Texans 9-7
Steelers 9-7
Titans 8-8
Jags 8-8
Dolphins 7-9
Jets 7-9

Meaning (if I have the tie breakers right), Ravens and Broncos go in as wildcards.

But if KC can upset Denver, Houston should be in!

Ok, so looks like I missed one,

Week 16
Chargers at Titans - Chargers
Texans at Dolphins - Texans
Jaguars at Patriots - Patriots
Chiefs at Bengals - Bengals
Ravens at Steelers - Steelers
Broncos at Eagles - Eagles
Jets at Colts - JETS :o Stupid Indy coach, would you have pulled the starters and let an undefeated season go down the drain? Sheesh!

[RickC Sniper]

Stupid Indy coach, would you have pulled the starters and let an undefeated season go down the drain? Sheesh!

I probably wouldn't have, but in truth I don't know how many nagging injuries those guys have been playing with and it's logical to want them healed up for playoffs.

If I wanted to rest\heal up my studs I wouldn't have started them in the first place. To yank them in a tight game makes little sense to me.

[RickC Sniper]

Packers just annihilated the Seahawks on their way into the playoffs. So good they were, Rodgers sat out the 4th quarter - killing my fantasy football team. :x:yeah:;):smug::ping:

Yup, your Rogers and my Clark! :down:

What was worse is Maroney fumbling at the one yard line and never getting to set foot on the field again in a game where lots of rushing yards were to be had.

If he scores on that play it's +6 points for me plus he plays all afternoon. Instead, he's a total bust. :nope:
Then the Giants are so far behind they go for it on 4th down in the redzone twice late in the game and fail....Easy fieldgoals for Tynes but he never gets the opportunity.

Sometimes I hate that game. :damn:

Good luck with Longwell tonight. The Vikes are overdue to light up the scoreboard.

[Aramike]

Yup, your Rogers and my Clark! :down:

What was worse is Maroney fumbling at the one yard line and never getting to set foot on the field again in a game where lots of rushing yards were to be had.

If he scores on that play it's +6 points for me plus he plays all afternoon. Instead, he's a total bust. :nope:
Then the Giants are so far behind they go for it on 4th down in the redzone twice late in the game and fail....Easy fieldgoals for Tynes but he never gets the opportunity.

Sometimes I hate that game. :damn:

Good luck with Longwell tonight. The Vikes are overdue to light up the scoreboard.Yeah, it was a strange week, and is going to be an oddly low scoring championship game.

Who would have thought it would come down to a kicker? :doh:

[AVGWarhawk]

Who would have thought it would come down to a kicker?


A lot of teams live and die by the kicker. I know the Raven's have quite a few times. I do not know why the canned Stover. Dumb move IMO.

[Aramike]

A lot of teams live and die by the kicker. I know the Raven's have quite a few times. I do not know why the canned Stover. Dumb move IMO.Oh, for sure. I'm talking about the Torpedo Bowl Championship though. :cool: The only player left to play is Ryan Longwell tonight.

[RickC Sniper]

Yeah, it was a strange week, and is going to be an oddly low scoring championship game.


Agreed, both of our teams pretty much laid an egg this week.
:salute:

[Pacific_Ace]

@ Neal. You would not believe the amount of anger in Indy over pulling the starters. I think it is because they all played last week, and last week was just as pointless as this week was. So everyone thought they were going to go for 16-0. I think even letting them play until start of the 4th might have been all it needed. People are PISSED here.

[geetrue]

It's just a matter of time before the San Diego Super Chargers take on Indy/Manning in the up coming AFC playoff game scheduled for Jan 24th 2010.

One week later on Jan 31st 2010 will be the Pro Bowl in Maimi the week before the Super Bowl on February 7th. First time this has happened like this ... it is usually in Hawaii after the Super Bowl

Manning will be in the Pro Bowl instead of the Super Bowl while Rivers will just show up to be cheered by all of the fans for taking the Super Chargers to the Superbowl so LT can get his ring.

Way to go Neal ... you only missed one game and it was the one no one else picked.

What I think is funny is no one is fighting for the wild card in the NFC :salute:

[Onkel Neal]

@ Neal. You would not believe the amount of anger in Indy over pulling the starters. I think it is because they all played last week, and last week was just as pointless as this week was. So everyone thought they were going to go for 16-0. I think even letting them play until start of the 4th might have been all it needed. People are PISSED here.


Yeah, I don't blame them. I don't know if pulling starters is the way to go. Sure, you minimize the chance they can get injured, but that seems to be offset by breaking their rhythm. Plus, to go for an undefeated season, that's an awesome goal. Sure, if you take a loss in the regular season, well, that happens, but to lay down and let the game go up in smoke... wow.

It's just a matter of time before the San Diego Super Chargers take on Indy/Manning in the up coming AFC playoff game scheduled for Jan 24th 2010.


Way to go Neal ... you only missed one game and it was the one no one else picked.

What I think is funny is no one is fighting for the wild card in the NFC :salute:

Thanks. That one miss does not seem to change the playoff picture a great amount, still looks like the Raven and Broncos as wildcards. But, I am really leaning toward KC upsetting the Broncos...though I'm not so sure the Texans can play two full halves of football and beat the Patriots after they slacked off the 2nd half at Miami... :hmmm: in that case, the Steelers might sneak in.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Ravens just need the win and they are there. Now, if the Ravens could just STOP penalties that amount to 100+ yards/game they just might have a fighting chance. :doh:

Welcome to do or die, sudden death, now or never, it's gotta happen, no screwing around football. :nope:

[nikimcbee]

The Ravens just need the win and they are there. Now, if the Ravens could just STOP penalties that amount to 100+ yards/game they just might have a fighting chance. :doh:

Welcome to do or die, sudden death, now or never, it's gotta happen, no screwing around football. :nope:

It does help to catch the ball with you hands, instead of your helmet:oops:.

All the big teams lost this week. The vikes have picked a great time to stumble:dead:. Hopefully they can work out their issues before it's too late.:shifty:

[nikimcbee]

yay, vikes are back from Christmas break:03:

[ReallyDedPoet]

yay, vikes are back from Christmas break:03:

Don't get to excited. A high school football team could have beaten the Giants today :yep::O:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ravens are in. Next week will be the end though we meet the Patriots. However, the Raven's Super Bowl victory of last they came in as a wild card. :03:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Packers as well, though next week will be the real deal with all starters
playing :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

.




Week 17
Jaguars at Browns - Jags Browns won
Bengals at Jets - Bengals Jets won
Patriots at Texans - Texans
Steelers at Dolphins - Steelers
Titans at Seahawks - Titans
Ravens at Raiders - Ravens
Redskins at Chargers - Chargers
Chiefs at Broncos - Broncos Chiefs won

I am really leaning toward KC upsetting the Broncos...



Argh, damn Bengals. I hope the Jets bust them wide open again next week. If the Raiders could have scored 9 more points or the Bengals has shown up and won, Texans would be in, cuz the Broncos did a complete collapse. I really was surprised to see the teams with playoff spots cinched lay down so blatantly. Colts lost two in a row and Saints are on a 3 game losing streak.

[AVGWarhawk]

I suspect the Colts and the Saints are laying low awaiting the playoffs. In short, rest your first line guys if you can. At least this is how I would run my club if I were in that situation. In all reality, getting to the big show negates any last game losses. Getting to the big show and winning is what it is all about. If you take a few remaining games in the shorts to save your good players from possible injury then I call that smart money.

I put my money on the Saints. I believe the Ravens will be done next week. Flacco is not of the same league as others her will be playing against. Remember, this is only his second year at the helm. Although a good quarterback with good situational awarness, the others who are in the playoffs proper are much more seasoned.

[AVGWarhawk]

Packers as well, though next week will be the real deal with all starters
playing :yep:

Yes sir! This is were they separate the men from the boys. Good luck! :yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, playoffs are set, now is the time to log your official Super Bowl 44 predictions.

Dallas Cowboy vs New York Jets, Cowboys will win by less than 8. :cool:

[DeerHunter UK]

I told my mates before the start of the season that my predictions for the Super Bowl champions are the Baltimore Ravens.

[mookiemookie]

Green Bay vs the Colts with GB taking home the trophy.

[AVGWarhawk]

I told my mates before the start of the season that my predictions for the Super Bowl champions are the Baltimore Ravens.

That would be sweet but Flacco is not in the same league as the quarterbacks that have gotten into the playoffs proper. Also, the defense has won the Ravens a lot of games but they has also lost a lot of games with flag-fest penalties. If the defense can get off that kick of penalty taking then perhaps there is a chance. It is a long shot. What makes you believe the Ravens can take it to the big show and take the big show home?


I got the Pats going all the way. :03:

[AVGWarhawk]

Green Bay vs the Colts with GB taking home the trophy.

If it came down to this I would put my money on the Colts. Sry RDP:oops:

[ReallyDedPoet]

If it came down to this I would put my money on the Colts. Sry RDP:oops:

wtf ..... :D:D

If it does happen the Colts will be very tough :yep:

[DeerHunter UK]

That would be sweet but Flacco is not in the same league as the quarterbacks that have gotten into the playoffs proper. Also, the defense has won the Ravens a lot of games but they has also lost a lot of games with flag-fest penalties. If the defense can get off that kick of penalty taking then perhaps there is a chance. It is a long shot. What makes you believe the Ravens can take it to the big show and take the big show home?


I got the Pats going all the way. :03:

A lot of good defensive teams have won the superbowl without having a top rated quarterback, Tampa Bay for instance. I'd even go as far as suggest New England with Tom Brady the year previously.
Everything changes in the playoffs, just ask the Cowboys and Pats fans. Both looked like winning in recent years and neither have.
Speaking of the Pats, they're banged up at the moment a bit aren't they? The Ravens are certainly going to test them, so if the Pats are going to win they'll need to play at their best to beat them.
Why do I think the Ravens will take the lot? They're a great defensive team period and I think they have someting to prove. They have had a bad season by their standards and I think they'll be very strong in the playoffs as a result.

[AVGWarhawk]

A lot of good defensive teams have won the superbowl without having a top rated quarterback, Tampa Bay for instance. I'd even go as far as suggest New England with Tom Brady the year previously.
Everything changes in the playoffs, just ask the Cowboys and Pats fans. Both looked like winning in recent years and neither have.
Speaking of the Pats, they're banged up at the moment a bit aren't they? The Ravens are certainly going to test them, so if the Pats are going to win they'll need to play at their best to beat them.
Why do I think the Ravens will take the lot? They're a great defensive team period and I think they have someting to prove. They have had a bad season by their standards and I think they'll be very strong in the playoffs as a result.

I like your optimisim! I would love to see the Ravens go all the way. Defense has been the Ravens bread and butter for a long time. Ray Lewis is the back bone of the defense squad and does fire them up to crush skulls. The seats I see the game are right by the locker room tunnel were the flame pots and smoke are made. Ray comes flying out like a mad man. It is really cool actually. But, as I stated, penalties kill them. If they can stay away from penalties then there is a fighting chance. Even if we do not make it I'm still please with the season because the Steelers are done.....:yeah: I love the Ravens and any other team that is playing against the Steelers. :D Flacco is cool under pressure but for some reason he seem unsure as of late. Just something I noticed. I could be imagining it also. I hang my hat on the likes of Reed, Rice, McGhee, well...the whole lot of them!

I just read Brady has 3 broken ribs. Poor guy....:har::O:

[August]

I just read Brady has 3 broken ribs. Poor guy....:har::O:


Brady ribs are ok. His broken finger too. It;s the loss of Wes Welker thats gonna hurt our game a lot more.

[AVGWarhawk]

Brady ribs are ok. His broken finger too. It;s the loss of Wes Welker thats gonna hurt our game a lot more.


Yes sir! A pats fan in my office said the same thing. Plus Moss has been a bit late for work on a few occassion.

[geetrue]

San Diego Chargers are not knew at this playoff thing ... they just have had a hard time of making it all the way to the Super Bowl and when they did back in 95 they lost to Minnesota.

Chargers all the way to the Super Bowl and win it too, but I don't know against who. Perhaps New Orleans with Rivers/Breeze shoot out. Breeze use to play for the Chargers you know?

Looks like an AFC play off game between Indy and the Chargers unless Indy gets beat in the first round after their bye week :salute: :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm going with Deerhunter UK prediction! :D:O:

[ReallyDedPoet]

It's not the Patriots year, they seem to be on a bit of a downward spiral, where as the Ravens have been fairly resilient all year.

I pick them as well :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

To me it seems like lately there is some wildcard underdog that makes it to the show and wins it all. I know it's crazy, but I think the Jets have a chance to be that team.

[mookiemookie]

To me it seems like lately there is some wildcard underdog that makes it to the show and wins it all. I know it's crazy, but I think the Jets have a chance to be that team.

I used to just hate the Jets. Now I loathe and despise them. So I hope you're wrong.

[AVGWarhawk]

To me it seems like lately there is some wildcard underdog that makes it to the show and wins it all. I know it's crazy, but I think the Jets have a chance to be that team.


The Ravens did years ago. 2001 :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

It's not the Patriots year, they seem to be on a bit of a downward spiral, where as the Ravens have been fairly resilient all year.

I pick them as well :yep:


Yes sir! Some real problems cropping up for the Pats.

[AVGWarhawk]

I used to just hate the Jets. Now I loathe and despise them. So I hope you're wrong.

I'm the same way with the Steelers. I hate that friggin terrible towel crap. One of my bosses buddies came over his house for a Christmas party. His buddy is a Steelers fan. He secretly placed a Steelers Christmas ball on his tree. :har: Man, is that funny or what? My bosses wife got pissed. :har: It was hanging right by the Ravens Christmas ball. :haha:

[nikimcbee]

To me it seems like lately there is some wildcard underdog that makes it to the show and wins it all. I know it's crazy, but I think the Jets have a chance to be that team.

Must be that gas leak in your furnace:doh:. Jets? :har:
Neal, you should go open a few windows.:D

[AVGWarhawk]

Let me get this in here now in case I forget later....


GO RAVENS!


http://www.netnax.net/imgs/sports/baltimore-ravens1.png

[Onkel Neal]

Patriots are slowly dying... 3 minutes in the 3rd, down 20 points, and they are still tossing 5 yd passes... Looks like Deer was right.

[Onkel Neal]

Must be that gas leak in your furnace:doh:. Jets? :har:
Neal, you should go open a few windows.:D

Heh, they are one step closer, crushed Cincin on the road.:hmmm:

[RickC Sniper]

Flacco is 4 out of 10 for 34 yards passing and they are leading 27-14 and they are 6 yds from scoring again.

If Flacco was 100% healthy or just plain better the Ravens would be the team to beat, but I cannot see them winning the superbowl being that one dimensional.

[AVGWarhawk]

Flacco is 4 out of 10 for 34 yards passing and they are leading 27-14 and they are 6 yds from scoring again.

If Flacco was 100% healthy or just plain better the Ravens would be the team to beat, but I cannot see them winning the superbowl being that one dimensional.


Sure you can!

I love watching Brady sulk. Next to the Steelers the Patriots are my next most hated team. Now, if the Ravens can stop the penalties they have the potential to go to the big show. Today was a perfect example. Penalty free day=win! Now, it was obvious that Baltimore reviewed the patriot play tapes last week. It paid off. This week they watch more play tapes.

Rice/McGahee/Entire defensive line :rock:



GO RAVENS!

[August]

Now, now, AVG don't be a hater. My New England Patriots will be back to give you a real reason some day. :salute:

[nikimcbee]

Now, now, AVG don't be a hater. My New England Patriots will be back to give you a real reason some day. :salute:


Yeah, gawd what a hater:haha:. I'm just glad Brady waited until after the FF season to self-destruct.:D

[AVGWarhawk]

Now, now, AVG don't be a hater. My New England Patriots will be back to give you a real reason some day. :salute:

I have a coworker who is a Pats fan....now understand why the Pats are on my hit list! :O:

[August]

I have a coworker who is a Pats fan....now understand why the Pats are on my hit list! :O:

Well you're not alone. If I could convert even 1% of that hate into heat energy I could keep warm all winter! :D

[Takeda Shingen]

Brady ribs are ok. His broken finger too. It;s the loss of Wes Welker thats gonna hurt our game a lot more.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/everyone_at_hospital_already_hates

[AVGWarhawk]

Packers/Cardinals was a wild one!

[Onkel Neal]

No kidding! At middle of the 3rd, with the score 31-10, I gave in and let my daughter play Guitar Hero. After 20 minutes I checked back and it was 38-38!

[nikimcbee]

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/everyone_at_hospital_already_hates

So, what happen to the Eagles?:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

No kidding! At middle of the 3rd, with the score 31-10, I gave in and let my daughter play Guitar Hero. After 20 minutes I checked back and it was 38-38!

Natasha: 1 Neal:0 :D

[magic452]

They though the game was on Sunday. :D

Magic

[ReallyDedPoet]

Packers/Cardinals was a wild one!

:yep::oops:

[AVGWarhawk]

The Packers fought and clawed for sure Kevin! Good season! As for the Ravens, next week will be the end of their season for them. Manning/Colts....class act. However, having the Steelers on the sidelines in street clothing watching the playoffs, beating the Patriots, makes my season complete! :yeah:

Hey, my wife got me a new Ravens sweatshirt! So it's all good! :D

[ReallyDedPoet]

The Packers fought and clawed for sure Kevin! Good season! As for the Ravens, next week will be the end of their season for them. Manning/Colts....class act. However, having the Steelers on the sidelines in street clothing watching the playoffs, beating the Patriots, makes my season complete! :yeah:

Hey, my wife got me a new Ravens sweatshirt! So it's all good! :D

I was pleased they did not roll over in the second half. That should bode well for them going forward. As much as it sucks now, there is always next year to look forward to.

Massive win for the Ravens, I was not surprised as they are on the upswing. Should be interesting when they play the Colts, they will be in tough, but it's one game & anything can happen.

[AVGWarhawk]

Manning is a great QB. Very hard to beat and he runs his own squad. If they are at the opposing teams stadium the fans can scream as loud as they like attempting to screw up the hike of the ball. It does no good. Manning uses hand signals. He just has a good squad. Our regular season game was close however. 17-15 I believe. Flacco is not up to snuff with what looks to be a hip and ankle issue. The throwing game with the Pats was not there. Fortunate for the Ravens Ray Rice is small and runs under everybody getting lost in the crowd with the ball. When the whistle blows everyone finds he has gotten yet another first down. The Colts will know this and be looking for Rice. Other than that if the defense pressures Manning like they did Brady they might be able to pull it off.

[Onkel Neal]

Second time this week I've seen the blind side blitz decide the game. First in the Texas-Bama game, now in the Packers-Redbirds game. That's a powerful weapon if it's not used until a crucial situation.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Other than that if the defense pressures Manning like they did Brady they might be able to pull it off.

This will be key, if Manning has time in the pocket he has a lot of weapons to
give the ball to.

[Onkel Neal]

Also, was it me or was the officiating in the Packers game REALLY bad?

I love Fitz but two of his TDs came right after running over a DB.

And what about this?
http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/0111-rodgers-grid.grid-6x2.jpg

Sheesh! Call that obvious foul and Packer retain the ball and get a first down? Or does the ball come out before the foul, so the ball goes to the Cards, with a penalty? Video here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCbmc0IIM4)

Rodgers overthrew Jennings in the first play of the overtime. Had that pass been completed it would have ended then and there.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Also, was it me or was the officiating in the Packers game REALLY bad?

I love Fitz but two of his TDs came right after running over a DB.

And what about this?
http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/0111-rodgers-grid.grid-6x2.jpg

Sheesh! Call that obvious foul and Packer retain the ball and get a first down? Or does the ball come out before the foul, so the ball goes to the Cards, with a penalty? Video here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCbmc0IIM4)

Rodgers overthrew Jennings in the first play of the overtime. Had that pass been completed it would have ended then and there.

Yeah the Jennings overthrow hurt :yep:

Good question regarding the above play. I am not sure? If it was called, I am thinking the Cards still keep the ball ( ball is stripped first, then the face mask ), but are moved back 15 yards because of the penalty. Which still puts them within FG range with a fresh set of downs to get even closer.

[AVGWarhawk]

This will be key, if Manning has time in the pocket he has a lot of weapons to
give the ball to.

That is why pressure needs to be applied. You will note that the Ravens defense knew the plays of the Patriots. The tapes were studied well in advance concerning formations and what was coming. For a better part of the game the defense was ready for Brady and what was coming. Brady was offered quite a bit of time on a few plays. His players kept dropping the ball. They had plenty of opportunity to score and did not. It was a nail biter with the Colts in the regular season. This time I expect a nail biter. I hope the Ravens will be on top when the grass settles after 60 minutes.

Once again the Ravens will have to depend on the entire defensive staff and one short stocky guy by the name of Ray Rice. :D

[AVGWarhawk]

Billicheck has not eaten yet today. He said he had enough Rice yesterday. :D

[nikimcbee]

playoffs round 1:

colts 24-10

Chargers 42-17

vikes 27-24

saints 95-92:haha:

[Aramike]

Also, was it me or was the officiating in the Packers game REALLY bad?

I love Fitz but two of his TDs came right after running over a DB.

And what about this?
http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/0111-rodgers-grid.grid-6x2.jpg

Sheesh! Call that obvious foul and Packer retain the ball and get a first down? Or does the ball come out before the foul, so the ball goes to the Cards, with a penalty? Video here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCbmc0IIM4)

Rodgers overthrew Jennings in the first play of the overtime. Had that pass been completed it would have ended then and there.You're telling me ...

... or how about the Roughing the Passer called on the Pack, after the guy was thrown into Warner by an illegal hold, AND still hits him BEFORE the ball was even let go? What should have been a 10 yard holding penalty against Arizona instead was a 15 yard RtP against Green Bay!


Or what about the helmet to helmet hit on Rodgers the play BEFORE the fumble that just happened to be missed?

It should be pretty easy to win when you don't have to follow the rules... yet it still took 51 points.

I'm disgusted. :damn::dead::doh:

[Aramike]

Yeah the Jennings overthrow hurt :yep:

Good question regarding the above play. I am not sure? If it was called, I am thinking the Cards still keep the ball ( ball is stripped first, then the face mask ), but are moved back 15 yards because of the penalty. Which still puts them within FG range with a fresh set of downs to get even closer.Yeah, it was stripped first but the key is whether or not the Cardinals had possession first, which I don't think they did.

[DeerHunter UK]

Patriots are slowly dying... 3 minutes in the 3rd, down 20 points, and they are still tossing 5 yd passes... Looks like Deer was right.

Have I ever steered you wrong Neal? Oh ye of little faith. :D

BTW admission time, the only game I called wrong was the Cardinals-Packers game...but it was so close it could of gone either way.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs175.snc3/20232_1347014678034_1311304051_1013374_5713439_n.j pg

[AVGWarhawk]

GO RAVENS!!!!

[geetrue]

Go Chargers

Pre-approved to beat Manning/Indy for the AFC Championship game :yep::yeah::yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Go Chargers

Pre-approved to beat Manning/Indy for the AFC Championship game :yep::yeah::yep:

You mean Raven's! We will allow one mis-que. :03:

[geetrue]

I almost picked Arizona instead of the Saints:

Saints 21
Arizona 7

in the first quarter no less :woot:

[NEON DEON]

WHO DAT?

WHO DAT?

WHO DAT SAY DAY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS?

Not the Cardinals. :D

The Saints get to host the championship for the first time in the history of the franchise.

:woot::-j:()1::()1::woot:

[AVGWarhawk]

Payton out in fine fashion. Can't beat that passing game! Two quarters to go! :o

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Payton out in fine fashion. Can't beat that passing game! Two quarters to go! :o

Ah, that is why I saw so many Ravens jerseys when I went out, today.

I'm actually happy that the Redskins bombed so badly. Dan Snyder is such a dick.

[AVGWarhawk]

Game over for the Ravens. Nice run! No Steelers and beat the Pats. Good season :up:

[RickC Sniper]

Have I ever steered you wrong Neal? Oh ye of little faith. :D

BTW admission time, the only game I called wrong was the Cardinals-Packers game...but it was so close it could of gone either way.

Sorry Rich, but Flacco just isn't ready yet for a Super Bowl, or he is banged up and his play is reflecting that. Also, the Raven's D just isn't as dominating as in the past.

[nikimcbee]

Game over for the Ravens. Nice run! No Steelers and beat the Pats. Good season :up:

So at what point did you change the channel?

[nikimcbee]

playoffs round 1:

colts 24-10

Chargers 42-17

vikes 27-24

saints 95-92:haha:

score check:
http://www.nfl.com/

almost spot on with the colts game.:shucks:

[DeerHunter UK]

Sorry Rich, but Flacco just isn't ready yet for a Super Bowl, or he is banged up and his play is reflecting that. Also, the Raven's D just isn't as dominating as in the past.

I quote the sportscaster Smooth Jimmy Apollo from The Simpsons:

"Well, folks, when you're right 52% of the time, you're wrong 48% of the time."

And for my next kiss of death, I'm predicting that the Vikings will beat the Cowboys and the Chargers will beat the Jets.

[AVGWarhawk]

So at what point did you change the channel?


Never did brother. Sat there with my twin nieces to the bitter end. :salute:

[nikimcbee]

Deputy dawg! Deputy dawg! Da Mississippi Swamp Fox is in da endzone again!:woot:

Well, look at the bright side, just think of how much time Romo can spend with Jessica Simpson now:har:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1006/pg2_g_favre1_300.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

The Cowboys went down? Wow. I'm not a Farve fan only because he retires to start a new career in football all the time. But hey, good on them.

Jets coming on strong I see!

[RickC Sniper]

Onkle Neal is looking pretty smart right now with that Jets prediction.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yes he is! :yep::know:

[August]

Vikings at N.O. is gonna be a really good game i'm thinking.

My call though is for a Saint's/Colts superbowl.

[AVGWarhawk]

Vikings at N.O. is gonna be a really good game i'm thinking.

My call though is for a Saint's/Colts superbowl.


I would say you are correct. I would favor the Colts. Manning is very good and his squad is even better.

[geetrue]

It was rigged ... did you see that kicker miss 3 field goals

Never give up ... now we join the defeated

Jets vs Vikings Superbowl

Thats my final answer

[Onkel Neal]

Onkle Neal is looking pretty smart right now with that Jets prediction.

Lol, but I got the other three wrong :wah: &%#^*@ cowboys!

[ReallyDedPoet]

My call though is for a Saint's/Colts superbowl.

:yep::up:

[nikimcbee]

Fav-ray's secret weapon:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4833852

...Canadian tuxedo:har:

Jorts:haha::har:

Buna in a pair of jorts:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har: :har::har::har:

[TarJak]

Vikes looking good in the 3rd Qtr! Niki looking excited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8H8opcF_NE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C93LkrHzzrM

[nikimcbee]

Vikes looking good in the 3rd Qtr! Niki looking excited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8H8opcF_NE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C93LkrHzzrM

That will be me if the vikes win!:haha::yeah:

[mookiemookie]

J-E-T-S! SUCK SUCK SUCK! :yeah::rock::sunny:

[August]

Farve is sure taking a pounding! How much more can he stand?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Farve is sure taking a pounding! How much more can he stand?

Hopefully not much :DL

[August]

Hopefully not much :DL

It's looking more and more like it just might be enough! The Saints are letting it slip out of their hands.

[ReallyDedPoet]

It's looking more and more like it just might be enough! The Saints are letting it slip out of their hands.

Overtime, Saints ball.

[nikimcbee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRG1DSpEg0k&feature=related

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/p_thomas_012410_QT.jpg

Saints :rock:

Sorry mcbee, your boys had a good run :yep:

[nikimcbee]

The Vikings dominated in every statistical category but the Saints kept the game close by forcing six fumbles and two interceptions.

:damn:

[GoldenRivet]

Congratulations Saints, you deserve the win.

Next year... Cowboys all the way.:D

[ReallyDedPoet]

:damn:

The penalty at the end of regulation, to many man in the huddle, c'mon, in this big of game. They were in a position to kick the field goal for the win.

Anyway, hopefully this is the end of Favvvvvvvvvvvvvray :yep:, but :damn::damn:

[nikimcbee]

...and I thought the Ravens had the market cornered on self destruction. I knew it was lights out when they went to overtime.:-?

[Onkel Neal]

I was wrong about Dallas.

I was wrong about the Jets.





But I was right on the money about Brett "throw it up for grabs on the last play of a big game" Favre. :O:

Now, the endless tabloid news about his retirement/coming out of retirement. Favre brings the pro wrestling element to the NFL.

[CaptainHaplo]

The vikings tried to give away the game on the last few plays of regulation, then again in overtime. The Saints refused to take it.

Finally, the refs gave it to the Saints on the "completed pass" call. That ball was moving around and hit the ground. By rule, with the ball moving thats an incomplete pass.

[Ships-R-Us]

I was also wrong about the Jets. I lived in Upstate NY in the late 70's and my wife to be had 'ol #12 on the ceiling over her bed. I felt used, :haha:. I was just reminiscing...........

[gutted]

OMG!

Everyone at my house was in tears. Fireworks were going off outside, and when i stepped out the back door.. all you could hear was people yelling all across the city for miles.

speechless.

[Aramike]

The vikings tried to give away the game on the last few plays of regulation, then again in overtime. The Saints refused to take it.

Finally, the refs gave it to the Saints on the "completed pass" call. That ball was moving around and hit the ground. By rule, with the ball moving thats an incomplete pass....only if that moving isn't in control of the reciever. That's one of the new rules this year.

[August]

The penalty at the end of regulation, to many man in the huddle, c'mon, in this big of game. They were in a position to kick the field goal for the win.

Anyway, hopefully this is the end of Favvvvvvvvvvvvvray :yep:, but :damn::damn:

How come you don't like Farve? He got his team to the championship game. That's something my Patriots were unable to achieve this year. Not bad at all for a forty something...

[AVGWarhawk]

I was wrong about Dallas.

I was wrong about the Jets.





But I was right on the money about Brett "throw it up for grabs on the last play of a big game" Favre. :O:

Now, the endless tabloid news about his retirement/coming out of retirement. Favre brings the pro wrestling element to the NFL.

:har: Farve needs to let it go and make commercials selling jeans. I think the Colt got this one all the way. :03:

[fred8615]

I've been deliberately avoiding posting in this thread for fear of somehow jinxing the team. But now I have to.

THE SAINTS ARE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!


THE SAINTS ARE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!

I'm so happy! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[AVGWarhawk]

You just ruined you chances of winning the Super Bowl! :o Good luck!

[Aramike]

How come you don't like Farve? He got his team to the championship game. That's something my Patriots were unable to achieve this year. Not bad at all for a forty something...It takes a Packers fan to understand... :cool:

[fred8615]

You just ruined you chances of winning the Super Bowl! :o Good luck!
Don't care, cause at least they're in it! :woot:

Now when they go back next year I'll be expecting them to win then. :DL

[August]

It takes a Packers fan to understand... :cool:

If he had acted like Roger Clemmons did to the Red Sox then i'd understand for sure but did Farve get tired of Green Bay or did Green Bay get tired of him?

[Buddahaid]

All that needs to be said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLjbMBpGDA

[AVGWarhawk]

Don't care, cause at least they're in it! :woot:

Now when they go back next year I'll be expecting them to win then. :DL


Should be a good game but watching Manning and his crew pick it up when they were behind yesterday was astonishing. It was like no one else was on the field but the Colts. The Colts just threw and threw until it was in the end zone. Manning runs a great offensive squad.

[Aramike]

If he had acted like Roger Clemmons did to the Red Sox then i'd understand for sure but did Farve get tired of Green Bay or did Green Bay get tired of him?This was mostly about him sticking it to GM Ted Thompson, really.

Personally I think it was more of an ego-trip than anything.

Ted Perry from Milwaukee's local Fox affiliate newscast did a PHENOMENAL piece on Favre last night, on his opinion segment. Watch "No Ordinary Citizen" here:
http://www.fox6now.com/news/tedstake/

[August]

I'll have to watch it when I get home. This work machine doesn't run videos very well.

[nikimcbee]

Damn, at work today.:cry:

[ReallyDedPoet]

It takes a Packers fan to understand... :cool:

:yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Are you ready for some footballllll?!!

I'm starting the fryers now, 20 pounds of buffalo chicken strips coming right up!

Go Colts! Peyton Manning.

[Aramike]

Are you ready for some footballllll?!!

I'm starting the fryers now, 20 pounds of buffalo chicken strips coming right up!

Go Colts! Peyton Manning.You know, the Colts are my favorite team in the AFC. That being said, I would love to see the Saints come out on top.

Here's to a good game, and being happy no matter who wins.

[Ships-R-Us]

My wife's doing 5lbs of hot wings for me with Jalapeno poppers.

Go Saints and I'm giving 2 points

[Torplexed]

Are you ready for some footballllll?!!

I'm starting the fryers now, 20 pounds of buffalo chicken strips coming right up!

Mmmm. Can almost smell them frying from the other side of the country. :sunny:

[Weiss Pinguin]

Nachos and spaghetti (???... don't ask why, I don't even know lol) cooking out here. Because everyone eats spaghetti and nachos in Texas.

To be honest I don't really favor either team, but at the moment, I'm pulling for the Saints. By the 2nd half I'll probably change that to whoever's losing lol

[Pioneer]

Tbone steaks.
Knockwurst sausages.
Garlic potatoes in the jacket.
Honey beans.
Pickled onions.
Tomatoes.
Pineapple.

All cooking away on the grill while I dabble in the 5 layer dip and drink straight bacardi.:up:

[nikimcbee]

any thoughts so far? Can't watch yet, just hit the refresh button on the score:dead:

[August]

any thoughts so far? Can't watch yet, just hit the refresh button on the score:dead:

Daltrey and Townshend are like the Brett Farves of Rock and Roll. Props for them soldiering on so long after they should have retired to their castles.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Speaking of Favre, I thought the Brett Favre Hyundai commercial was pretty awesome :lol:

Anyways, things have really picked up, should be a fun 4th quarter.

[August]

One of the best Superbowls ever.

[magic452]

I was pulling for the Saints, they sure earned the shot and it's been a long time coming. :yeah::yeah:

Magic

[NEON DEON]

WHO DAT?

WHO DAT?

WHODAT SAY DAY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS?

Not the Vikings.

Not the Colts.

SAINTS 31

COLTS 17

BTW

The saints have never lost the Super Bowl:D:D:D

:rock::yeah::()1::()1::sign_yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah::wah: Why, God? Why?

[Ships-R-Us]

:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah::wah: Why, God? Why?

I posted "HERE IN THIS THREAD" two hours before kickoff that I was giving those rootin' for the Colts 2 free points.

No wonder here brother.........

[Buddahaid]

:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah::wah: Why, God? Why?

:smug::stare::doh::o:O::DL:D:D:D:D:D:D

[gutted]

Staaaaaand uuuuuuup aaaaaaaand geeeeeet cruuuuuuunk!!!

Who dat!

[NEON DEON]

:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah::wah: Why, God? Why?


Oh cheer up Neal. Look at the bright side. The Cowboys beat the Super Bowl champs in regular season:D

[Freiwillige]

Who dat, dat cant spell. Vikings should have taken it. Colts should have finished it!

There is always next year when the Aints will be the NFL's Who dat again!:shucks:

[sharkbit]

Finally... after all of these years of saying "It's the year of the Saints!", it's......THE YEAR OF THE SAINTS!!!! :woot::woot:

I'm gonna go and burn my brown paper bag in celebration today.

Excellent game last night. Well played by both sides and fun to watch.

:)

[fred8615]

I would post in this thread, but...

The text doesn't go big enough to express how happy I am!!!!!

So I won't.

Except to say one thing:

UP YOURS, TONY DUNGY!!! :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

[AVGWarhawk]

Congradulations Saints fans! Great game. When I witnessed the off sides kick I knew the Saints were there to win it. It was a great game! I'm very happy to witness the Saints first Super Bowl and first Super Bowl victory. :up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

When I witnessed the off sides kick I knew the Saints were there to win it.

Nice win for sure. Ditto on the onside kick :yep:

[Weiss Pinguin]

IMO that was the turning point for the Saints. I really didn't know if the Saints could pull it out, much less win with a lead like that.