[REL] New Freighter

[miner1436]

Adds a new freighter for the US, Japan and Britian.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9227/sh4img20090726092903375.jpg

Link: http://www.filefront.com/14127255/New-Frieghter.rar/

Install using JSGME or manually

[iambecomelife]

Wow! She looks good enough to eat!:yeah:

[Task Force]

Very good looking freighter.:yeah:

[miner1436]

Thanks guys:salute:

[cdrsubron7]

Very nice, miner. Thanks for your excellent work. :salute:

[AVGWarhawk]

More ships is always a good thing:yeah:

[Akula4745]

Beautiful work Miner!! If I add this will it be incorporated into the RFB+RSRDC campaign/career? Or is this only for custom missions?

Many thanks either way!

[captgeo]

another great job there Miner:salute:

[iambecomelife]

It's much more realistic than a couple of the SH4 freighters - one or two of the composite deckhouse merchants have really bizarre features that make them look like misfits in convoy.

[Akula4745]

If I add this will it be incorporated into the RFB+RSRDC campaign/career? Or is this only for custom missions?

[miner1436]

Im not sure, as I dont use supermods but it should work, it only adds a cargo ship (Type 102) into the campaign files.

[Akula4745]

Ok, sir. Thanks for the reply... and many thanks for your fine work!

[cdrsubron7]

I can verify that your new freightyer works fine with TMO+RSRDC, miner. Came across it south of Kii Suido last night. Ship ided as Large Modern. Happy to say she is now resting with Davey Jones on the bottom. At 11,360 tons, it makes a great addition to SHIV. Again, nice work, miner. :yeah:

[captgeo]

Works great with RFB RSRDC also, I finally sunk 1 today. ( I added it when it just got released, lol)

[SteveUK]

Yep also come across it in RFB but missed :oops: nice work admired it when it was sailing away!

[Armistead]

Doe's it show in the id book......Obvious, I love all miner's ship, just concern playin TMORSRD. Seem's some work and some don't. What' ships are you guys using beside this that works with the above.

[captgeo]

Doe's it show in the id book......Obvious, I love all miner's ship, just concern playin TMORSRD. Seem's some work and some don't. What' ships are you guys using beside this that works with the above.
I am not sure about that , never looked it up.:oops:

I have allmost all of Miner's ships added on, and I run across them all that I know of, but I guess if you installed them and created a mission, then you would know if they will show. but again I just wait and encounter them by chance myself.

[miner1436]

Don't worry guys, im working on the ship mod pack, it will include several new ships and will modify the old ones and add them into the recognition manual, then ill see if Lurker has any plans for them.:up:

[pragr]

is it right that in reco manual I can see the same picture for Akitsu escort carrier and for this new merchant?

I use RFB 1.52 and RSRD V421 mod

[Armistead]

I am not sure about that , never looked it up.:oops:

I have allmost all of Miner's ships added on, and I run across them all that I know of, but I guess if you installed them and created a mission, then you would know if they will show. but again I just wait and encounter them by chance myself.

What mods do you play and do you see them in the ID book?

...Look's like miner is gonna try to get em into RSRD and I'm sure Lurker will add them.

[conus00]

I might be the only one but I have problem with this particular ship. Don't take me wrong I am in no way criticizing your mod, I actually believe that SH4 is lacking large tonnage ships.
Here is my problem: whenever I try to gun one of these ships on the surface and after it sinks, I try to dive to periscope depth and my damage (it's usually aft or bow torpedo room) gets 100% damage and my sub sinks.

I tried to uninstall it and the problem disappeared....

Running mostly stock 1.5 with some minor (graphic) mods.

Any ideas?

[miner1436]

Not sure about that, never happened to me before, when I re-install SHIV I will look into it more.

[tater]

The japanese merchant marine didn't have any large MFMs that look like this (according to ONI-208Jrev), but she's sure pretty.

[Bubblehead1980]

Tater, you are not entirely correct, they did operate some large merchants.Tonan Maru class comes to mind, they were nearly 20,000 tons i believe.

[Armistead]

I might be the only one but I have problem with this particular ship. Don't take me wrong I am in no way criticizing your mod, I actually believe that SH4 is lacking large tonnage ships.
Here is my problem: whenever I try to gun one of these ships on the surface and after it sinks, I try to dive to periscope depth and my damage (it's usually aft or bow torpedo room) gets 100% damage and my sub sinks.

I tried to uninstall it and the problem disappeared....

Running mostly stock 1.5 with some minor (graphic) mods.

Any ideas?

Sink it all the time, never had that problem, TMO1.7 & RSRD.

[tater]

Tater, you are not entirely correct, they did operate some large merchants.Tonan Maru class comes to mind, they were nearly 20,000 tons i believe.

Necro-bump, I know, but I am looking at merchant ships right now...

It's not the size, its the SHAPE.

The real Heian M. is a passenger that is almost a split, and also has kingposts. This mod actually bears a closer resemblance to Saipan M. (5533 t.) except if she's really almost 500' long.

Also, she (and her sister) was not a freighter, she was an Auxiliary Submarine Depot Ship.

[MGR1]

Hi Tater,

The model bears a similarity to the Nigitsu Maru, so when I've dropped it in to my install, that's what I've named it as.

AFAIK, the Akitsu and Nigitsu Maru's were very similar, if not sisters.

A Japanese guy called Motoyuki Iwashige's been building up a collection of WW2 merchant ships in model form on his site:

http://ww6.enjoy.ne.jp/~iwashige/history.htm (http://ww6.enjoy.ne.jp/%7Eiwashige/history.htm)

I think you've found it already, if remember rightly, but I thought I'd post a link into it.

There's also a thread over at the ModelWarships.com forum as well:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=39282

It's up to 22 pages and still going!:o

There's also this page I found as well:

http://www.aeronautic.dk/MarineArtgallery-T-Yuki.htm

There's a selection of paintings of merchant vessels about half way down, including the Akitsu and Nigitsu Maru's.

Hope that helps!

Mike.:DL

[tater]

Yeah, Nigitsu is perhaps a better match except that the superstructure on this model is really weird. VIrtually all jap ships I have seen have the bridge 1 deck above the rest (as Nigitsu shows). That monolithic box looks totally "wrong" to me and make her stand out.

Yeah, I know all those sites. I had bookmarked that art site, but forgot about it long ago---that link rocks!

[MGR1]

I had bookmarked that art site, but forgot about it long ago---that link rocks!

Glad to be of service!:03:

Mike.:DL

[Steelkilt]

Looks great miner! Any chance we could get into the forum download section here. FF and I just don't seem to shake hands but I'll keep trying...SK

edit...Ah!...got it on the 5th try, can't figure them out sometimes...SK

edit2...Do I need to be "at the desk" to inject this?

[tater]

It is nigitsu, you are right. She's just Akitsu with the deck cut off. Far better to make an accurate Nigitsu, though the hull form of the original SH4 model is crap I think (the devs gave her a warship" hull, when she needed a "merchant" hull (slab-sided, flat bottomed, and more boxy).

I have plans for Nigitsu, so I think I can make her look better.

Or I could scan them and miner could do it, cause he actually knows what he's doing :)

[GerritJ9]

Jentschura lists "Akitsu Maru" and "Nigitsu Maru" on page 61 as Army air transports with flight decks. They were requisitioned while under construction for completion as landing ships with flying-off decks. Side and plan views are included of "Akitsu Maru" as she was to be modified in 1944 with a larger flight deck in order to permit aircraft to land. No photos unfortunately.

[tater]

http://ww6.enjoy.ne.jp/~iwashige/akitsumarumod.jpg
Akitsu Maru


http://ww6.enjoy.ne.jp/%7Eiwashige/nigitsumarumod.jpg
Nigitsu Maru


http://ww6.enjoy.ne.jp/~iwashige/mayasanmarumod.jpg
Mayasan Maru

(note the cut-out shapes near rthe fron of the superstructure where the walkways are.)

[miner1436]

If you want to send me the plans, I could try to do it.

[tater]

Cool, I'll scan them for you, they're in Iwashige's book. Note that they don't have hull forms.

They do have side view, top view and front views of superstructure.

The "Heian" model you have now—aside from the bad hull you were given by the devs—is actually pretty close already.

I had a go in wings, too, I can include my attempt at the obj file (I'm a total noob :) ).

Will get it to you tomorrow, latest.

[tater]

PM sent with image.

[tater]

PM with obj file WIP