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Contact
06-13-09, 03:08 AM
Dunno what got into me but I guess I just got tired from TC and already bored to get in action only when target is spoted :)

So, I began a new career yesterday night from 1939 Sept.1 I will try to complete this patrol in real time. It's 7-th flotilla and I departured Kiel for AL36 by OKM orders. We already passed 12 hours of continuous passage. I'm still on East side of Denmark (AO4795), heading NNE. No enemy contacts.

XTBilly
06-13-09, 03:26 AM
Very nice captain!:cool:

I had problems with the crew management in SH3.
When the crew fatigue was corrected by mods, I ALWAYS patrol on the bridge at X32 speed.

This way, you can really enjoy the travel time and its effects.
Seeing endless sunrises and sunsets, feeling many days of storms...

Of course, with the updated crew management in SH4, I continued like this. No X8192 for me.

I don't have much free time, but the patrol relaxes me (until enemy contact that is!:D)

Happy hunting!:arrgh!::salute:

Contact
06-13-09, 06:05 AM
I wonder if it's possible to make sound still going while SH3 is minimized ?

Dowly
06-13-09, 07:22 AM
I wonder if it's possible to make sound still going while SH3 is minimized ?

AFAIK, the only sound you'll hear when minimized is the thunder. :hmmm:

SteamWake
06-13-09, 08:42 AM
So your gonna leave your machine on for months?

What if you get a power glitch?

Anyhow someone did this for SH3 when it first came out. He even got mentioned in the press.

Good luck !

Contact
06-13-09, 11:06 AM
So your gonna leave your machine on for months?

What if you get a power glitch?

Anyhow someone did this for SH3 when it first came out. He even got mentioned in the press.

Good luck !

No I will save the game and shut down PC when I'm away from home. I'm going to make this patrol with TCx1 whenever I'm at home :)
If the power glitch occurs there is UPS under the table to take care about this.

Contact
06-14-09, 12:46 PM
So I'm very slowly approaching North sea and it is still Sept 2 in the morning. Tonight we met two of friendly patrol boats and saw Danish light ship. Now it's only plenty of emptyness in the horizon :)

Time goes sooo slowly and the rest of my crew has not much to do on their free time..

I was thinking.. Would it be possible to do a patrol or career via mission editor but like in multiplayer for couple of players ?
I mean to go out on the patrol together with one more player for instance ?

The save option would be complicated I guess and maybe more common CTD issues :hmmm:

OneToughHerring
06-14-09, 01:14 PM
So I'm very slowly approaching North sea and it is still Sept 2 in the morning. Tonight we met two of friendly patrol boats and saw Danish light ship. Now it's only plenty of emptyness in the horizon :)

Time goes sooo slowly and the rest of my crew has not much to do on their free time..

I was thinking.. Would it be possible to do a patrol or career via mission editor but like in multiplayer for couple of players ?
I mean to go out on the patrol together with one more player for instance ?

The save option would be complicated I guess and maybe more common CTD issues :hmmm:

I've heard that it kinda can't be done with SH3's build, at least not without significant effort. Would be great though to go through for example a mission with two boats or even more, with the boats in pre-destined starting-off points and the whole mission going in real time.

meduza
06-14-09, 01:34 PM
Good hunting, Herr Kaleun. The real time patrol is my long-time wish, but never got enough free time. Some day, maybe...

Keep us posted!

Contact
06-14-09, 01:36 PM
I've heard that it kinda can't be done with SH3's build, at least not without significant effort. Would be great though to go through for example a mission with two boats or even more, with the boats in pre-destined starting-off points and the whole mission going in real time.

Exactly.. It's such a pitty it can't be done though..
I hope maybe GWX4 will make this opportunity alive.

Like <Multiplayer Career> mode

Would be cool :)

Contact
06-14-09, 01:43 PM
Good hunting, Herr Kaleun. The real time patrol is my long-time wish, but never got enough free time. Some day, maybe...

Keep us posted!

Well if you really want it, you can make it happen :)

I'm letting the game go when I'm at home and when I can check anytime how it's going. When I have to leave I'm saving it and shuting down the game, or leaving it paused. But I like to save it and shut down the game to have more frequent malfunction situations which is introduced in SH3cmdr.
On the other hand saving helps if any CTD occurs and it will hurt less :)

talesofvalor
06-14-09, 02:12 PM
Very nice idea.
Good hunt!:yeah:

GoldenRivet
06-14-09, 02:30 PM
during my 1x patrol last year i had a great time. (see http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140138&highlight=1x+patrol )

fortunately i was only at sea for something like 14 or 15 days as i had departed a french base and ran into a huge convoy about 8 or 9 days out and exhausted all torpedoes.

one problem i encountered... i had multiple saves, one per hour to be exact, and i think that having multiple saves caused my clock not to jive with day/night cycles in the game.

for example, not 500 miles off the coast of france, it would be beaming daylight yet the game clock showed 2300 hours local time!

some suggested that this was a result of the extreme north latitude longitude - however i was not north of the BF squares.

secondly, when the clock would show 1130am it would be pitch dark outside with a full moon.

my recommendation to anyone attempting a 1x patrol would be to start your patrol as close as possible to the real time. for example; if it is 8:00am where you live... make sure to leave port when it is 8:00am in the game, this way your life is a little easier - when it is time to sleep in the game it will be time to sleep in real life etc.

secondly, for saving, i wouldnt save hourly due to corruptions.

save once per day, and should a fatal crash occur hours after your save, use time compression to catch up to the current real time, then resume 1x compression. this helps reduce the risk of corrupt saves and strange errors.

Contact
06-14-09, 02:38 PM
Yep, I'm doing preventive saves 1-2 times per 24 hours..

Speaking about time differences I left Kiel when clock was showing 8 o'clock and the local time was 7 o'clock. Thought what a hell, but I couldn't be bothered by that very much. :)

GoldenRivet
06-14-09, 04:12 PM
close enough time difference. :yeah:

mookiemookie
06-14-09, 09:22 PM
If they'd let me play at work, I'd do a 1x patrol. Something tells me that would be bad for my continued employment, however. ;)

Contact
06-15-09, 03:31 AM
If they'd let me play at work, I'd do a 1x patrol. Something tells me that would be bad for my continued employment, however. ;)

You can try induce your employer that this game is inspireing you to work harder :haha: But I can almost guarantee you woun't avoid strange looks from him at you after that :)

Contact
06-15-09, 10:36 AM
Currently I'm at grid AN3655 keeping course 266 it's already night and first unkown contact has been spoted. However I raised SH3 window about 10 minutes later which was minimized and I couldn't hear the Shiff Gesichted message, so it was a delay of actions.

Visibility was 9 km at clear night but I couldn't see the target because of delay.

Chase has begun. Changed course to last known position flank speed, after 5 minutes periscope deapth full stop and I listen. Small ship engine could be heard, adjusted course, surface the boat, flank speed. About five minutes later I spoted dark smoke appearing above the horizon, it was:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6735/pirmaskontaktas.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/pirmaskontaktas.jpg/)

I was almost sure it's neutral but I was too eager to make sure to let him go so I continued to chase him. It took quite a while since he was moving away from me doing his best at 9 knts :)

As I approached close enough to be able to see the flag it turned out to be Norwegian vessel..

Made a U-turn and droped the speed to ahead standard..
Continuing patrol.

Sailor Steve
06-15-09, 02:09 PM
Speaking about time differences I left Kiel when clock was showing 8 o'clock and the local time was 7 o'clock. Thought what a hell, but I couldn't be bothered by that very much. :)
The main clock always shows Zulu Time, AKA Greenwich Mean Time, AKA the time at 0 degrees longitude. The "Local Time" shows...well, you know. It's a cool SH3 function that SH4 managed to break.

Contact
06-15-09, 03:43 PM
The main clock always shows Zulu Time, AKA Greenwich Mean Time, AKA the time at 0 degrees longitude. The "Local Time" shows...well, you know. It's a cool SH3 function that SH4 managed to break.

ok thanks, will be usefull to know :)

Bent Periscope
06-15-09, 05:02 PM
Good luck!!!

My small kids nor wife would never allow me to do this - plus I don't have the patience.

BP

TigerShark808
06-15-09, 10:25 PM
I try as much as i can to play "Real Time" I only speed up time when Im bored..but I actually like the sound of the waves and the possibility of the guys on watch screaming @ me while Im doing things around the house.

I often,when alone on Sundays(wife works and my day off) turn off everything in the house and just take a nap on the sofa next to the computer. The sounds of the waves crashing against the hull is actually kinda nice to fall asleep too. Not often but on occasion I am awaken from my sleep with "SHIP SPOTTED". Kinda kool If you have the time. (sometimes my sleep is too deep and well you know the outcome) :)

My wife thinks im insane when I drop to 80meters turn on the record player for the crew and then go to sleep. But thats SH3 for yaa!


Good Luck on your Real Time Patrol :)

Contact
06-16-09, 05:11 AM
One side effect about weather occurs when doing RTP, I think it never changes if the game is saved within 24 hours.. So I'm having a good weather for the third day already :)

sharkbit
06-16-09, 07:54 AM
Speaking about time differences I left Kiel when clock was showing 8 o'clock and the local time was 7 o'clock. Thought what a hell, but I couldn't be bothered by that very much. :)

I've read where U-Boats always kept their clocks on German Time with the watches and ship routine based on that no matter what the "local" time was. They may be eating lunch at noon ship's time and the sun could be coming up outside while off the coast of the US.

One day, I wpould love to attempt a Real Time Patrol but wife, kids, and job make that extremely unlikely. I suppose the most likely chance would be to do one in a Type II in the North Sea.

So I guess, for now, I have to live vicariously through others.:DL

:)

BulSoldier
06-16-09, 09:42 AM
Recruit your wife and kids as your IWO and IIWO so they could take care of das boot while the kaleun is resting :salute:

sharkbit
06-16-09, 12:03 PM
Recruit your wife and kids as your IWO and IIWO so they could take care of das boot while the kaleun is resting :salute:

That would go over like a fart in church.
:D

Contact
06-17-09, 03:10 AM
First kill:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3949/gatovas.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/gatovas.jpg/)

Grid AN34. It appeared on my nav map around 35 km away. So I changed course and was heading to check him out. Appeared to be British small freighter. Shelled him with deck gun.

Continuing patrol :)

Doolar
06-19-09, 09:02 AM
i kinda play like TIGERSHARK 808 . When I.m alone or its late at nite ( my time ) I play at 1x just to here the waves and listen to the gramophone ( got about 300 songs in there , that I downloaded from various players collections on this forum ) . I also like to watch my boat external views too ( via the < > keys ). The sofa is next to my computer so I can catch a lite nap and listen . But once I fell asleep and was sunk . That made the bloopers thread !

Leandros
06-19-09, 09:16 AM
i kinda play like TIGERSHARK 808 . When I.m alone or its late at nite ( my time ) I play at 1x just to here the waves and listen to the gramophone ( got about 300 songs in there , that I downloaded from various players collections on this forum ) . I also like to watch my boat external views too ( via the < > keys ). The sofa is next to my computer so I can catch a lite nap and listen . But once I fell asleep and was sunk . That made the bloopers thread !
SHIII can serve as an excellent screensaver....:cool:

johan_d
06-19-09, 04:35 PM
SHIII can serve as an excellent screensaver....:cool:


:har:

Contact
06-25-09, 07:23 AM
Failed to complete it in Real Time :oops:

Well, at least I got a taste of what it takes for a few days and nights :)

GoldenRivet
06-25-09, 08:20 AM
what happened??

game go on the fritz?

too many real life issues?

just couldnt stand it?

combination of the three?

better luck next time.:up:

Contact
06-25-09, 08:41 AM
"too many real life issues" combined with "just couldnt stand it" :yep:

sharkbit
06-25-09, 12:38 PM
It seems that no or very few real life commitments would be a key factor.

Also a really understanding/forgiving/angelic/helpful spouse/significant other/boyfriend/girlfriend/partner to take full advantage as well.

:DL

WilyPete
06-25-09, 08:49 PM
I would only do that if I was on a real sub in the middle of a war where getting off the sub would mean drowning. Otherwise I will always use TC. :salute:

FIREWALL
06-25-09, 10:57 PM
So your gonna leave your machine on for months?

What if you get a power glitch?

Anyhow someone did this for SH3 when it first came out. He even got mentioned in the press.

Good luck !

Yep. :yep: And they took him to a mental ward wrapped in a wet sheet. :har:

Contact
06-26-09, 03:29 AM
Really, you have to get mentally trained if you want to complete a RTP. Cuz it nearly killed me from inside.

Imagine you're trying to sleep but your sleep consists only from closed eyes and ears on standby mode all the time. You never have enough rest and next day is difficult to concentrate on RL matters. :doh: I'm visiting the gym and I noticed that my strengths bacame weakened or I'm getting tired much faster because of lack of sleep I guess.. So I decided that my health is going to be on first place this time :)

I'm not saying it's not possible to get along with this regime but if your'e sensitive sleeper, it will take some effort to get used to the constant noise of u-boat engines :)

XTBilly
06-30-09, 01:48 AM
I highly recommend using x32 time compression and playing the game from the bridge. It gives you a great immersion of patrolling in a WWII submarine.

Generally, it's a little less that 1 game day in 1 hour real time.

I thing it's the golden "medium" between real time and high time compression. It's been years since I play like this, and I can't go back to x2048 or more... It looks more arcade to me... Like teleporting!!:haha:

This way a player can enjoy the days passing by, the mild weather changes, and the effects of a long patrol... Crossing the Atlantic or Pacific in 10 minutes RT is a little...:-? But I don't have the time and patience to do a RTP...

Try it! You may be surprised by the addiction it offers!:03:

Pohl
06-30-09, 02:13 AM
I've wanted to try a real time patrol since I have vacations...but I will probably get distracted on the process and just TC until I get into the open sea.......oh well for the heck of it I'll do an attempt right now of doing a TCx1 career, just going to use TC to set the time to match my zone so I don't get screwed up :arrgh!:


U-97 (Type-VIIC) will leave St. Nazaire in a couple of minutes :salute: I'll update when I wake up in approx 6-8 hours, I'll set a course to my current patrol grid and wait for the best, submerged at night surfaced during day.


Need to patrol grid AM 41, NO estimates 148 hours until we reach the grid @ 8 knots, distance is of 1900 km, I'll probably burn some diesel in the morning, going to periscope depth for the night once we get deep into the ocean right now we are just 81 km away from St. Nazaire so there's no risk on being surfaced and sleeping at the moment, current time 2:38 AM.

Sea Hawk
06-30-09, 06:23 AM
The main clock always shows Zulu Time, AKA Greenwich Mean Time, AKA the time at 0 degrees longitude. The "Local Time" shows...well, you know. It's a cool SH3 function that SH4 managed to break.

Ive never come accross "Zulu time" before. We always call it GMT in the UK. Why do you call it Zulu time?

BulSoldier
06-30-09, 08:37 AM
Ive thinking of trying Real time patrol but my pc is in the room i sleep and the noise is just damn annoying late at night when the only noise is the pc.Though i have been on ships for few weeks in the sea and the noise from the engines is easy to ignore even though it is everpresent.However the noise from the pc is driving me crazy :shifty:

RoaldLarsen
07-07-09, 02:41 AM
Ive never come accross "Zulu time" before. We always call it GMT in the UK. Why do you call it Zulu time?


I expect members of your armed forces say "Zulu time" or something similar. Two explanations; pick your favourite:
"Zulu" is the NATO phonetic alphabet sound for the letter 'z'. In this case 'z' stands for zero, which is the number of hours displaced from the prime meridian.
Because "Zulu" is easier to say than "Golf Mike Tango".

cj95
07-07-09, 05:05 AM
Realistically a Real Time Patrol of any length would be absolutely murderous.

Due to the fact that most of us...supposedly...have jobs and RL issues we will always get less than 24 hours of game time in any 24 hour period.

That is to say even if we play a massive 12 hours a day non stop, it wouold still take us a month to simulate a 15 day patrol.:nope:

Try doing a good three or four week patrol, and it would take upwards of 60 days to sim....if you palyed 12 hours a day.

Put in a more realistic 6 hours a day (still massive) and our four week patrol takes us a solid one quarter of a year to sim.:har:

Ummm no thanks. Maybe a quick cruise in a Type II would be interesting, but still....

BulSoldier
07-07-09, 05:19 AM
well you could leave the game running and dive to safe depth at silent running.This most probably will save you any unfortunate encounters.

Sea Hawk
07-07-09, 07:18 AM
Thanks Galakev and Roaldlarsen for the explanation.

Sailor Steve
07-07-09, 11:32 AM
well you could leave the game running and dive to safe depth at silent running.This most probably will save you any unfortunate encounters.
True, but that's not realistic either. You'll also lose any contacts the soundman gets while you're at work. If you're going to do that you might as well use TC to get the same result.