View Full Version : Industry catching on; DRM not appreciated
Arclight
05-17-09, 01:30 AM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4020/pc_game_piracy_why_bother_with_.php
(note it's 3 pages)
Seems all the bitching and moaning of gamers is finally being recognized. Companies seem to be reversing the trend of more invasive DRM, while some are even shipping games without it entirely.
"I definitely believe this is all the result of a change in the public perception of DRM, a sort of grass roots uprising," observes Ron Carmel, co-founder of San Francisco-based developer 2D Boy. "Gamers are much more vocal about it than they used to be, perhaps because they are so accustomed to downloading music without too many restrictions.""Spore was the final straw that broke the camel's back," recalls Brad Wardell, president and CEO of Plymouth, Michigan-based developer Stardock. "Someone who buys software does not want to be made to feel like a chump for buying it. Much of the outcry came from legitimate customers who said that they shouldn't be restricted by DRM, especially since people with pirated versions weren't."
On the other hand, there are new games like Rise of Flight that require you to
be online constantly when playing singleplayer in order to check the DRM.
In unrelated news, it looks like the corrupt judge in the PirateBay case was not
assigned to the case randomly as he should have been.
Raptor1
05-17-09, 03:54 AM
It was only a matter of time, large game publishers are stupid, but when it comes to losing profits, they will catch on eventually
Jimbuna
05-17-09, 05:32 AM
Yep, the jingle jangle sound of money falling from their pockets soon draws their attentions to the situation.
bookworm_020
05-17-09, 05:23 PM
Well they had to notice in the end. Just a pity that we had to be done over first!:nope:
FIREWALL
05-17-09, 09:08 PM
I won't be buying ROF because of their online policy.
But I'm only one person,so who cares ? Or am I ?
If ROF even see's the light of day I'll be surprised. :yep:
Schroeder
05-18-09, 08:30 AM
A lot of people I know won't buy ROF exactly because of that.
Raptor1
05-18-09, 08:45 AM
A lot of people I know won't buy ROF exactly because of that.
I won't be buying it because the features seem rather crummy
I've been playing MMOs and other such games that require internet connection and sometimes monthly payment to play, so ROF's requirements don't really bother me, but I can see why someone won't like to buy it on those grounds
HunterICX
05-18-09, 10:43 AM
A lot of people I know won't buy ROF exactly because of that.
and what about the people with dial ups or smallband that are slower then the required 512kbps to play the game, there are still many areas which do not share our luxury of having fast internet connections.
HunterICX
...there are still many areas which do not share our luxury of having fast internet connections.
Judging by our online games, Malaga is one of them. :har:
On another news, not all movie makers dislike piracy. :yeah:
My name is Eric D. Wilkinson and I am the producer of a small independent film called “Jerome Bixby’s The Man From Earth” (our review (http://www.rlslog.net/the-man-from-earth-2007-proper-dvdrip-xvid-domino/)).
I am sending you this email after realizing that our website has had nearly 23,000 hits in the last 12 days, much of it coming from your website. In addition, our trailer, both on the www.manfromearth.com (http://www.manfromearth.com/) site and other sites like YouTube, MySpace and AOL has been watched nearly 20,000 times AND what’s most impressive is our ranking on IMDb went from being the 11,235th most popular movie, to the 5th most popular movie in 2 weeks (we are also the #1 independent film on IMDb & the #1 science fiction film on IMDb). How did this all happen? Two words: Torrent / File Sharing sites (well, four words and a slash).
More specifically, ******.***. Our independent movie had next to no advertising budget and very little going for it until somebody ripped one of the DVD screeners and put the movie online for all to download. After that happened, people were watching it and started posting mostly all positive reviews on IMDb, Amazon and other places. Most of the feedback from everyone who has downloaded “The Man From Earth” has been overwhelmingly positive. People like our movie and are talking about it, all thanks to piracy on the net!
Am I upset… surprisingly no. Thanks to everyone who has downloaded this torrrent and watched the film, our awareness level is through the roof. For that I say, “THANK YOU”!
What you guys have done here is nothing short of amazing. In the future, I will not complain about file sharing. YOU HAVE HELPED PUT THIS LITTLE MOVIE ON THE MAP!!!! When I make my next picture, I just may upload the movie on the net myself!
FIREWALL
05-18-09, 12:54 PM
and what about the people with dial ups or smallband that are slower then the required 512kbps to play the game, there are still many areas which do not share our luxury of having fast internet connections.
HunterICX
Another good point Hunter. :up: Maybe the most important as far as ROF is concerned.
I would think since their "small potatoes " in the game sale industry they would want the most sales they can get.
Jimbuna
05-18-09, 01:20 PM
Judging by our online games, Malaga is one of them. :har:
LMAO http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7975/gigglebigtb9fg3.gif
If ROF even see's the light of day I'll be surprised. :yep:
Ummm...you know it's already been released in several countries...Surprise!
FIREWALL
05-18-09, 01:51 PM
Ummm...you know it's already been released in several countries...Surprise!
Bold Statement. And where might that be ?
Raptor1
05-18-09, 01:53 PM
Bold Statement. And where might that be ?
In Soviet Russia, Game releases YOU!
FIREWALL
05-18-09, 01:58 PM
That tells me nothing. Post a link. :yep:
Task Force
05-18-09, 02:06 PM
Yea it was released in russia, I read it somewhere.
I hope oleg dosent put a DRM in storm of war.
Raptor1
05-18-09, 02:06 PM
That tells me nothing. Post a link. :yep:
Quick google gave me this (http://wwiaircombat.com/articles/rise-of-flight-released-in-russia-explosion-of-screenshots-ensues)
Platapus
05-18-09, 02:58 PM
I would never buy a single player game that required continuous connection to the internet. :nope:
Jimbuna
05-18-09, 03:17 PM
I would never buy a single player game that required continuous connection to the internet. :nope:
Me neither.....it's my way or the highway.
FIREWALL
05-18-09, 03:22 PM
Quick google gave me this (http://wwiaircombat.com/articles/rise-of-flight-released-in-russia-explosion-of-screenshots-ensues)
Good one Raptor1 :up: :salute:
FIREWALL
05-18-09, 03:27 PM
Me neither.....it's my way or the highway.
Well that's 3 sales they won't be getting. And I'm sure there will be alot more.
That's plain dumb business sense.
AVGWarhawk
05-18-09, 03:39 PM
DRM really never bothered me. ROF looks like a good game to me. I understand it will be available soon. I will wait to see what others who have it are saying.
Arclight
05-19-09, 12:19 AM
And how about a game like The Hunter?
You can download the client and create a "guest" account for free, but you start the game online, and you need to stay connected during play.
Anyone object to that system? I'm not even sure it qualifies as DRM. :hmmm:
Spike88
05-19-09, 08:39 AM
Sid Meiers released a Civilization 4 pack thats DRM free.
Etienne
05-21-09, 05:07 PM
Sid Meiers released a Civilization 4 pack thats DRM free.
Never noticed any DRMs in Civ 4.
On the online issue : It's ridiculous. I play games when I don't have access to the internet, which, when I find a job, can be up to six months a year. Definetly not buying any game that requires me to check in.
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