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Dowly
05-07-09, 08:17 AM
So, I got rid of my other 'addiction', coffee last week and figured this would be a good time to get rid of smoking aswell. I'm going to go cold turkey straight on, as I know I'd just keep on smoking if I'd try to lessen slowly.

Any tips? What helps to get over the worst? Anything to avoid that makes me want to have a cig?

HEEEEEEELP!!!

:salute:

Raptor1
05-07-09, 08:19 AM
Right...

SteamWake
05-07-09, 08:19 AM
The nicotine aids do help some the gums or tablets or skin patches.

The problem is they cost as much as the cigarettes.

Letum
05-07-09, 08:21 AM
If you find you still have a craving for a fag, then smoke one and the
craving should go away for a short time.

I have a friend who gave up cold-turkey 3 years ago and still uses this
technique with great success.

Dowly
05-07-09, 08:23 AM
The nicotine aids do help some the gums or tablets or skin patches.

The problem is they cost as much as the cigarettes.

Exactly. That's why I'm not touching them.

porphy
05-07-09, 08:26 AM
Anything to avoid that makes me want to have a cig?

:salute:

Coffee, but you already dropped that one... Getting drunk usually make people bad at holding on to promises.... Heck, basically avoid everything that you used as a good reason for a smoke earlier. :DL

As soon you feel the urge, go for a hard run. Endorphins beat most of the other stuff :cool:

Dowly
05-07-09, 08:28 AM
Getting drunk usually make people bad at holding on to promises....

Aye, this one of my concerns. Tho, the good thing is that most of my friends dont smoke, so even if I'd want to have a fag in-between of a beer, I cant as nobody has one. :hmmm:

XabbaRus
05-07-09, 08:32 AM
A good porn mag and some kleenex.

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 08:37 AM
Dowly, have you every heard of SNUS? Famous in Sweden. It is a packet of spitless tobacco. I use the Camel brand of SNUS here in the US. Basically the US version of SNUS. It does stop the craving to smoke. It is spitless. The spiced flavors are great. The package it comes in is about $1.00 less than cigarettes. I usually have one small packet (15 in a can) and it lasts about 2 hours. Normally in that two hours I have 4 cigarettes. So these really help.

Look here:

http://www.swedish-snus.com/

antikristuseke
05-07-09, 08:43 AM
Coffee, but you already dropped that one... Getting drunk usually make people bad at holding on to promises.... Heck, basically avoid everything that you used as a good reason for a smoke earlier. :DL

As soon you feel the urge, go for a hard run. Endorphins beat most of the other stuff :cool:

Aye, runing is a good thing, but it is even better to smoke a cigarette after a har run ;)

I am probably not helping.

Anyway, good luck with this Dowly, I have tried and failed a few times allready. The insomnia is just a bit too much for me to handle.

Dowly
05-07-09, 08:43 AM
Dowly, have you every heard of SNUS? Famous in Sweden. It is a packet of spitless tobacco. I use the Camel brand of SNUS here in the US. Basically the US version of SNUS. It does stop the craving to smoke. It is spitless. The spiced flavors are great. The package it comes in is about $1.00 less than cigarettes. I usually have one small packet (15 in a can) and it lasts about 2 hours. Normally in that two hours I have 4 cigarettes. So these really help.

Look here:

http://www.swedish-snus.com/

Yup, I'm familiar with snus, tried it once. Just not that easy to get here in Finland as (IIRC) selling/buying/importing is illegal. And then again, I've seen some nasty photos of longtime snus users' mouths, not pretty. And lastly, why would I want to give up smoking and then switch to snus? :O:

Dowly
05-07-09, 08:44 AM
Aye, runing is a good thing, but it is even better to smoke a cigarette after a har run ;)

I am probably not helping.

Haha, you bastard. :har:

rubenandthejets
05-07-09, 08:45 AM
Sleep, water, chocolate and sleep.
Take an 18 hour plane trip.
Rub all your cigarette butts in earwax.

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 08:56 AM
Yup, I'm familiar with snus, tried it once. Just not that easy to get here in Finland as (IIRC) selling/buying/importing is illegal. And then again, I've seen some nasty photos of longtime snus users' mouths, not pretty. And lastly, why would I want to give up smoking and then switch to snus? :O:

Take in a few pictures of smokers who had lung cancer. Not to pretty either. You are not switching to SNUS. SNUS is just like the gum or patch. Your body is still getting nicotine from these just like SNUS is doing. It helps you get over the need to want to have a smoke. In other words, crave a smoke pull out a snus instead. Once over the crave to smoke to get your nicotine I think quiting SNUS would be easier than quiting the smokes. Everyone is different. Cold turkey is hard but from my experiences with others quiting, this is the best way to go. My inspiration is my wifes aunt. Three packs a day. She went cold turkey. If she can kick a 3 pack a day habit then my 15 cigarettes a day should be a snap.

I did not know you could not get SNUS in your country. Good Lord, you can mail order it here in the states. Takes about 7 days. Crazy.

You know what helps me....go to a place were smoking is not allowed. A great spot is the library. You can busy yourself with a good book on Bf-109s or something. If the smokes and or smoke itself is not around you then you feel more at ease when you get a craving.

porphy
05-07-09, 09:15 AM
Aye, runing is a good thing, but it is even better to smoke a cigarette after a har run ;)

I am probably not helping.

Anyway, good luck with this Dowly, I have tried and failed a few times allready. The insomnia is just a bit too much for me to handle.

Didn't know that. Never smoked myself, so it's a bit hard to understand how you want to smoke after a good run. But I guess any kind of reward is likely, myself I love a cup of strong coffee after running and shower... Anyhow, coffee is cheap and running do you good. I just stay with the cheap and good drugs in life... ;)

Freiwillige
05-07-09, 10:37 AM
Give yourself an absolute quit date at least two weeks out to mentally prepare. Reduce your smoking slowly in those two weeks and when you hit that date quit. Find hobbies to keep your mind occupied. Chew gum or carry a pen to chew on for the period after quiting. Mentally prepare yourself for the struggle in the first 48 hours, after that its mostly mental addiction. 7 days and your looking good. 30 days and your mostly in the clear. Never forgett the struggle you had to get clean. My past mistakes are always underestimating the power of nicotine and thinking that just one at a bar wont kill me, It triggers your brains addiction pathways and your hooked again quick!

Good luck you will need it! Oh and finally if you fail, dont give up get back at it!:salute:

HunterICX
05-07-09, 10:45 AM
I've quiet smoking since September 2007,

the first 2 weeks are thought, but here's what I did.

I smoked my last cigarette at night, I broke the rest of the package in tiny bits threw them away, and started the next day quiting.

the first days I just had a bottle of water, whenever I felt like smoking I just took the ''smoking break'' but instead of a cigarrete I just drank water.

(replacing the cigarette by candy or Nico-patches is just replacing the habbit not breaking it, also slowly quiting aint gonna help a bit 1 cig a day is already too much its the ''one more cant hurt can it'' thing.)

you will notice quikly that the Nicotine aint the bad guy, its the habbit :damn:
Wake-up cig, the after breakfast cig, after coffee cig etc etc.

whenever you crave for a cigarette just kept thinking of the negative things of smoking, it helped for me.
because if you REALLY care about yourself, you can QUIT smoking.

HunterICX

Jimbuna
05-07-09, 11:15 AM
Get a tin....a big tin the size of a bucket.

Weld a lid onto the top.....you reckon your a welder, so that bit should be easy....even for you.

Now cut a slot in the middle of the lid....just big enough to take a Euro coin.

Every time you have a fag, put a Euro into the bucket.

Pretty soon that bucket will be full....send it to me.

In no time at all you'll be too skint to be able to buy a packet of fags.

On the positive side....I'll be quite wealthy and promise to spend 10% of yer cash on SNUS and send it to you as a goodwill gesture. :rotfl:

Dowly
05-07-09, 11:25 AM
ROFL @Jim :har:

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 11:41 AM
Jim looks to be starting the whole process over again with the good will gesture:har:

Kratos
05-07-09, 12:05 PM
Why quit? You Wanna die healthy? :O:

Jimbuna
05-07-09, 12:06 PM
Just think.....if you quit for even just a day, you would be able to buy a cable extension for that mic and then we'd be able to hear your squeaky voice on the TS server. http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img517/4434/whistlingtz9.gif

http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img144/9549/dope3rfnk4.gif

Jimbuna
05-07-09, 12:07 PM
Why quit? You Wanna die healthy? :O:

You get yer legs strapped on....the bus is due in a little over an hour.

I'm to pick Lauren up soon :DL

antikristuseke
05-07-09, 12:13 PM
Smoking kills you slowly.

thats ok, I do not want to die fast anyway.

Rockstar
05-07-09, 01:12 PM
Eat some fish head soup cooked with cabbage, beets and birch bark when you get the urge, supposed to work. Birch bark is what does the trick though, the rest of the ingredients are added just to kill the taste of the tree bark. for real.



.

Raptor1
05-07-09, 01:15 PM
Just think.....if you quit for even just a day, you would be able to buy a cable extension for that mic and then we'd be able to hear your squeaky voice on the TS server. http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img517/4434/whistlingtz9.gif

http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img144/9549/dope3rfnk4.gif

You know that supposed mic is a hallucination he had while he was drunk...

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 01:24 PM
Eat some fish head soup cooked with cabbage, beets and birch bark when you get the urge, supposed to work. Birch bark is what does the trick though, the rest of the ingredients are added just to kill the taste of the tree bark. for real.



.

If that does not work you can make on hell of a nice canoe out of the birch bark. :yeah: That will keep you busy and not thinking about smoking. :D

McBeck
05-07-09, 02:40 PM
Go get Allan Carrs book "The easy way to stop smoking"

Cured my and my wife with no problems :)

It may sound like a joke but this book really works wonders for most people...

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 02:54 PM
Go get Allan Carrs book "The easy way to stop smoking"

Cured my and my wife with no problems :)

It may sound like a joke but this book really works wonders for most people...


Done! I just ordered it from Amazon. Thanks for the tip McBeck:yeah:

OneToughHerring
05-07-09, 03:07 PM
Dowly, have you every heard of SNUS? Famous in Sweden. It is a packet of spitless tobacco. I use the Camel brand of SNUS here in the US. Basically the US version of SNUS. It does stop the craving to smoke. It is spitless. The spiced flavors are great. The package it comes in is about $1.00 less than cigarettes. I usually have one small packet (15 in a can) and it lasts about 2 hours. Normally in that two hours I have 4 cigarettes. So these really help.

Look here:

http://www.swedish-snus.com/

You have snus in the States? It's legal? How funny. Those Swedes and their effective marketing of their addictive products.

I have used baggy-snus but gave it up pretty quick. It does give a pretty effective nicotine 'buzz' though and is popular among athletes because it is supposedly healthier and easier to use than smoked tobacco.

Schroeder
05-07-09, 03:09 PM
Eat some fish head soup cooked with cabbage, beets and birch bark when you get the urge, supposed to work. Birch bark is what does the trick though, the rest of the ingredients are added just to kill the taste of the tree bark. for real.
You have got to be careful with birch bark. It's bad for the stomach and can cause health problems.:timeout:

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 03:17 PM
You have snus in the States? It's legal? How funny. Those Swedes and their effective marketing of their addictive products.

I have used baggy-snus but gave it up pretty quick. It does give a pretty effective nicotine 'buzz' though and is popular among athletes because it is supposedly healthier and easier to use than smoked tobacco.

Yep, you can mail order straight from Sweden. However, Camel (USA) has made their own brand. As far as nicotine, you can select how strong you want, at least from the Swedish brand. Camel is what it is. As far as healthier, hell no, gum disease and possible liver damage. SNUS does keep you from smoking because you are provided the nicotine. Getting over the smoke after eating or trying to relax, that is the hard part.

NeonSamurai
05-07-09, 03:19 PM
<reads over the suggestions> umm ya...

Ok here is the way it works in simple terms. If you want to quit successfully, you have to realy and truely want it. If a part of you does not want you to quit, then it will nag and chew and harrass you endlessly untill you give in or you have a moment of weakness. You have to have solid concrete reasons to counter the little inner voices excuses and attempts. So don't bother if you don't realy mean it.

Second when dealing with a smoking addiction you have basicly 2 sub types to deal with, chemical (physical) dependancy and Habbitual/psychological dependancy. As such its usualy suggested that you do something to replecate (or keep your hands busy) when you would normaly smoke, this can include stuff like using a nicoteen inhaler (they are shaped and used similar to cigarettes and work well), or just keeping a pencil or other object of similar shape and size to play with.

Also try to avoid stuff that you did along with smoking, particularly drinking. Alchohol for one thing will lower your resolve/resistance so that you will probably relapse. Strong associations will trigger the impulse to smoke.

Last I'm not sure if trying to deal with a caffeen addiction at the same time as dealing with a smoking addiction is wise. Unless its a minor habbit it can conflict with your resolve, especialy as the 2 chemicals are fairly related.

Anyhow I would suggest a nicotine device (inhaler is probably the best kind), as they do increase the odds of quiting successfully.

longam
05-07-09, 03:50 PM
I have a year under my belt and what I did was research.

I educated myself on the cravings and triggers so I would know what to look for.

I had a real cause to quit, breathing. I was waking up short on breath and couldn't get it back for a few hours.

I always thought having a beer would be my biggest trigger, but it turned out to be work. I would walk outside every 1/2 hour and have a smoke, and there was always someone outside having a smoke, seems everyone smokes were I work at.

I would quit every night and by noon run down and buy another pack, so I finally just waited until the weekend so I would have a few days by myself and that were it started.

Its not easy by any means, and the first month was the worse for me, now I cant stand being around it....:woot:

Sledgehammer427
05-07-09, 04:33 PM
...candy sticks...like a cheap pack of sweet, cavity-inducing cigarettes, without the tobaccco.

they are a dollar and 9 cents US, I'm sure they aren't that expensive there

or if they are even there :(

I was just thinking though, that is how little kids learn to smoke cigarettes, so it must be even easier for adults to quit using them :D

the ones here are made by necco

Kapitan
05-07-09, 05:01 PM
I know how hard it is im doing the same thing going cold turkey 2 days so far it does make me wonder why do we all start in the first place?

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 05:57 PM
I know how hard it is im doing the same thing going cold turkey 2 days so far it does make me wonder why do we all start in the first place?

Good for you! I hope you make it. :yeah:

CaptainHaplo
05-07-09, 06:55 PM
I smoke a pipe every great once in a while nowadays.

The biggest thing isnt the physiological side - its the "having to do something with your hands and mind". Some people swear by hard candy or gum.

Personally - I suggest you do something that takes mental focus. If your a welder - try the flip side - take a break and go whittle for a bit, work with wood. Do something different that breaks the monotony of your day - but isn't harmful to your health. By doing this you force your mind to focus.

Also - when doing cold turkey and your really wanting to light up and afraid your going to lose the battle, go look at yourself in the mirror and ask the guy you see - aren't you strong enough to keep from being whipped by a little stick of cancer plant?

Peto
05-07-09, 07:02 PM
So, I got rid of my other 'addiction', coffee last week and figured this would be a good time to get rid of smoking aswell. I'm going to go cold turkey straight on, as I know I'd just keep on smoking if I'd try to lessen slowly.

Any tips? What helps to get over the worst? Anything to avoid that makes me want to have a cig?

HEEEEEEELP!!!

:salute:

How about this one. A honest contest. I'm on my last can of tobacco right now (I've been making my own cigs with Top for years). I've proclaimed that this is my last can for about 2 weeks now. When it's done--I'm done smoking.

So--this contest requires us taking each other at his word but--I bet I can quit smoking easier than you can :03:!!! Maybe a little friendly competition will help both of us. H*ll--lets get AVG to sticky the "Quitting Smoking Simmers" and we'll see if others will join the competition!

Good Luck! To both of us (and whoever else picks up this heavy gauntlet).

:salute:

AVGWarhawk
05-07-09, 07:47 PM
You are making me nervous....I need a smoke:oops: I did purchase the book McBeck recommended. Let see what that is about.

Peto
05-07-09, 08:11 PM
Well--I quit once for 7 years so am confident I can do it again. But the book might be a good idea and I might check that out. The thing that made it easiest for me to quit for 7 years was the group of people I knew who kept telling me I wouldn't be able to. Had to prove them wrong :03:.

I started smoking again while on a 4 month backpack walk-about of Europe. Everyone I met offered me a cigarette and I finally caved in. That was years ago.

Hey AVG!!! Quit chewing that snuss like it's bubblegum!!! :haha:

SUBMAN1
05-07-09, 08:19 PM
Hey man, I quit about 8 years ago. Combo that worked for me was that gum for when you have a craving (which you can transfer over to normal gum later on) and full on cigars. With the cigars, your body starts to get used to smoking one a day (equal to about 50 cigs in nicotine so it works well) and then you will be able to simply cut out those cigars over time.

I still smoke the occasional Arturo Fuente every 6 months to a year, but I tell you, cigars made it easy to quit, especially after failing a few times prior to taking this strategic method.

-S

August
05-07-09, 08:33 PM
I was a pack a day smoker for 36 years and it has been almost two years since I last took nicotine in any form.

The secret to successfully quitting smoking is commitment and personal discipline. Pure and simple.

Every time I had tried to quit in the past and failed, it was because in the back of my mind I never thought of the cigarette I had already smoked earlier as the Last Cigarette I would ever have. That cigarette was always the one I was going to light up later on, or the one I would smoke on "The Big Quitting Day" or the one I would allow myself if I was able to hold out for some arbitrary amount of time, or if I just needed to smoke one to keep from choking somebody who richly deserved it. If you think about it you can invent all sorts of reasons to fail.

But all that did was set me up for failure, because even when I was smoking what I intended to be my last one I knew the real quitting battle wouldn't begin until the jones for the next one started. It was like a condemned man waiting for the axe to fall. The physical jones hadn't even started yet and already I was stressed out about it.

So laying in bed one morning I decided that the Last Cigarette was going to be the one I had smoked last night before I had gone to bed. Of course I didn't think of that one as my last smoke at the time, but I damn sure would see it that way now.

It avoided making that whole big scary line crossing, journey beginning moment of drama, instead I found myself past that and already on my way.

It's difficult to explain. The only analogy I can think of is that it was like suddenly finding myself on the road, already heading to some distant destination, on a trip that I didn't have to pack for, or make any arraignments to go beforehand. Does any of that make sense?

Anyways, that got me through the first few days. That and chewing a lot of sugar free gum. What got me through the first crucial month was stubbornness that was increasingly buttressed by pride.

I resolved to treat the addiction like kids who will badger a parent for something until they give in: "Can we have it?", "Can we have it?", Can we have it?" My answer would always be "NO!" no matter how many times it asked, I would have an entire sack!, a mountain! an unending supply, of "NO, I will not smoke one!". :x

Because that is how nicotine addiction works. It insidiously wears you down over time by constantly nibbling at you until you give in, and I was just not going to let that happen this time. I will never smoke another cigarette for any reason, be it personal tragedy, natural or man made disaster, pestilence, nothing. Que the Rocky theme music, I was going to be stubborn.

About three weeks into it a curious thing happened. The longer I went without a cigarette the prouder I felt talking about it. It feels really good to be able to say "I haven't had a cigarette in three weeks", but it feels MUCH better to say "I haven't had a cigarette in two months!" and it continues to get better. The length of time since the Last Cigarette has become a source of pride to me. Now every time I get the urge I think to myself how much it would suck to have to go back to saying "It's only been 48 hours since my last cigarette" :oops: and that does the trick.

I've put too much effort into it now to waste it.

Almost two years into it I still get the urge occasionally but it has gotten much easier to tell myself no. I've gotten into the habit of not smoking you see. :up:

So good luck Dowly. Be stubborn. Be strong. Be true to yourself because that is what this is really all about...

UnderseaLcpl
05-07-09, 08:44 PM
The secret to successfully quitting smoking is commitment and personal discipline. Pure and simple.


Be stubborn. Be strong. Be true to yourself because that is what this is really all about...

Spoken like a true soldier:salute:

sunvalleyslim
05-07-09, 11:41 PM
Forget all the advice Dowly. When you really want to quit, you will do it all on your own. Everything else is just BULLSH_T.........You will find what works for you, if you're honest....Good Luck My Friend.......:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

Dowly
05-08-09, 06:14 AM
AARGH!! The mornings are a bi**h without a smoke. It's 2PM here and I just got up, not that I was tired but I really didnt want to as I wanted to get my morning fag so bad.

Oh well, alles klar now. Eating something helped abit. :up:

antikristuseke
05-08-09, 06:23 AM
More good advice on how to quit smoking.

Every time you see skinheads smoking, punch them in the face. When you finaly recover from the beating you take you will never want to see another cigarette again, if you do then reapeat till coma and/or distain for cigarettes is achieved.

Violence, it solves problems.

Geno_Mariner
05-08-09, 06:23 AM
Get a tin....a big tin the size of a bucket.

Weld a lid onto the top.....you reckon your a welder, so that bit should be easy....even for you.

Now cut a slot in the middle of the lid....just big enough to take a Euro coin.

Every time you have a fag, put a Euro into the bucket.

Pretty soon that bucket will be full....send it to me.

In no time at all you'll be too skint to be able to buy a packet of fags.

On the positive side....I'll be quite wealthy and promise to spend 10% of yer cash on SNUS and send it to you as a goodwill gesture. :rotfl:

:har: I should do that to my oldest bro, so many times I tried to get him to quit. Succeeded for a short time then find him with a cigarette in hand. :stare:

Jimbuna
05-08-09, 06:49 AM
In a week or two I'll be sending those skinheads round 'to take blood'....to test the nicotine levels, obviously :DL

stabiz
05-08-09, 06:53 AM
Quitter!

NeonSamurai
05-08-09, 07:57 AM
:har: I should do that to my oldest bro, so many times I tried to get him to quit. Succeeded for a short time then find him with a cigarette in hand. :stare:

Won't work, you will never succeed in making someone else quit. They have to do it on their own because they want to do it for themselves. You can and should though support their efforts to quit when they do decide to.

I have to say that a lot of the comments and suggestions I have read here don't hold any scientific weight at all. There are no magic treatments that will make you stop smoking, and very little that will make it much easier. About the only proven thing that can help a little is the nicotine substitutes (which can ease the physiological cravings), but those can transfer the addiction if missused. In the end you will succeed or fail based on your own motivations to quit, and your own willpower to stay that way. August is absolutely correct in his assertion that "commitment and personal discipline" are key.


Now about that quitting smoking book..

I have to say from initial examination that I am deeply skeptical of the effectiveness of the book (or therapy sessions), and that my initial examination raised a lot of red flags. For one thing its very obviously a money making venture. Second I looked at the often cited research studies and found them to be very flawed in their approach (they have a huge problem with confound variables, lack of a control group, etc) which pretty much nullifies their value in my view. There are also other factors at play which can explain why the book may be a bit more effective (including the fact that people who purchase something will very often rate it higher, and believe that it worked, simply because they put money into it). Testimonials are also worthless as there is no way of knowing if it was the book that was the major reason for success or other factors.

To those here who recommend it, I would question if it was in fact the book that got you to quit, or was it really your own willpower and desire to quit, along with other factors that was the principal reason why you quit. A lot of people find it easier to succeed when they attribute success to an outside influence (God, a book, etc), and as I said when you put money into it, you have an investment to justify in your own mind making you more prone to validate that investment.


Anyhow I'll end off with the some links to quitting smoking from the Canadian Government. I like their site as its clean and direct, and most of all backed up by hard science.

Main link
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-tabac/quit-cesser/index-eng.php

5 Stages to quitting
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-tabac/quit-cesser/fact-fait/stages-etapes-eng.php

U-104
05-08-09, 08:28 AM
Dowly get a mouse trap one of the big ones a put cigarette on it and everytime you try to grab it ahhh!!!.:yeah:

SpeedyPC
05-08-09, 09:30 AM
Dowly,

This advice I'm going share you and this is no joke it 100% pure real straight out from a family doctor (GP) mouth, are you ready............:hmmm: cause I am going to do my very best to explain :o.

The answer is.........is SEX! Why:06: because this will help you and to keep you in full control in yourself and in your mind. their for you are only focusing on a woman not a Cigarette or a Fag!

The more you focus and concentrate on a woman during sex this will help you to achieve your goal to quit smoking because your handsome hot dog is very powerful than a Cigarette or a Fag, and it take over your problem and your mind off the Cigarette and you are in control with a woman.

Do you understand what I am trying to explain because your brain it more powerful and in full control of yourself to quit smoking is SEX!.

Very important when doing this advice is you have to do as much sex as you can in one FULL LONG DAY! drink plenty of water and eat plenty of food to keep your DI-K alive and going mean it need energy to recharged.

Don't believe.............try it for a week then come here and then you tell me the truth is SEX is mighty then the Cigarette or a Fag.

Oh! and one thing please make sure the woman keep you in control during sex because you cannot do this on your own, this has to be in for full control between a men and a woman..................NOT! the Cigarette or a Fag.

PS. Good luck with your DI-K vs the FAG!

AVGWarhawk
05-08-09, 09:53 AM
I like a good smoke after sex. :O:

August
05-08-09, 11:06 AM
I like a good smoke after sex. :O:

Yeah, and how much will he want to smoke a butt when his girlfriend tell him she's pregnant! :D

SpeedyPC
05-08-09, 11:48 AM
Yeah, and how much will he want to smoke a butt when his girlfriend tell him she's pregnant! :D

OR! Unless he might tell his mother.

MUM! I got my sister pregnant can I have a smoke please! :D or a green weedie FAG! :O:

Jimbuna
05-08-09, 01:00 PM
The fundamental problem here being.....what woman would willingly have sex with a pre-pubescent pug ugly Finn? :hmmm:

Dowly
05-08-09, 01:05 PM
The fundamental problem here being.....what woman would willingly have sex with a pre-pubescent pug ugly Finn? :hmmm:

Eeeeexactly! :up:

SpeedyPC
05-08-09, 01:15 PM
The fundamental problem here being.....what woman would willingly have sex with a pre-pubescent pug ugly Finn? :hmmm:

Huh? I don't understand this :timeout::06::06::hmmm::o Jimbuna have you been drinking behind your computer, or smoking something very nasty may I join in :D

Jimbuna
05-08-09, 01:47 PM
Huh? I don't understand this :timeout::06::06::hmmm::o Jimbuna have you been drinking behind your computer, or smoking something very nasty may I join in :D

You bring a bottle of Bundy rum and you'll be very welcome cobber.


http://www.abfnet.com/forum/images/smilies/pirate_with_bottle_of_rum_lg_blk.gif

AVGWarhawk
05-08-09, 02:19 PM
The fundamental problem here being.....what woman would willingly have sex with a pre-pubescent pug ugly Finn? :hmmm:


:har::har::har:


There is always 'pay for' in the women department:hmmm:

Geno_Mariner
05-08-09, 03:07 PM
Won't work, you will never succeed in making someone else quit. They have to do it on their own because they want to do it for themselves. You can and should though support their efforts to quit when they do decide to.


True. Well at least he tried before but yah...

Platapus
05-08-09, 04:39 PM
Any tips? What helps to get over the worst? Anything to avoid that makes me want to have a cig?



Break the other patterns that supported your smoking.

For instance. If you always smoked while sitting at your computer. Move your computer to another location and rearrange the set up. Anything to break the pattern of sitting down at the computer and lighting up.

The key is not to do the same patterns that supported your smoking. Familiar surroundings and familiar patterns will work against you.

Good luck and congratulations of a great decision.

Task Force
05-08-09, 06:35 PM
By wensday dowly will be in the nut house. in a stright jacket... lol:haha:

(wish you the best of luck dowly.):up:

kiwi_2005
05-08-09, 09:41 PM
If you have the nicotine patches available in your country then i would recommend those, they stopped the craving straight away for me within minutes as soon as i applied the patch - no bull your crave for a cig is gone but the habit of wanting one is still there, but its easier to give up once the craving is gone just have to find something else to replace the habit.

If you decide to get them grab the highest rating option (Rating 3 for heavy smokers ) even if your not a heavy smoker grab them anyways. If you go for the low rating you might still crave for a smoke.

flyingdane
05-09-09, 12:35 AM
Stop!! you dumb buts, You really can stop smoaking if you want,
All you need is a nother habit to take up...:haha:

antikristuseke
05-09-09, 01:53 AM
:har::har::har:


There is always 'pay for' in the women department:hmmm:

I see you are after my ex again, you horndog, you!:oops:

SpeedyPC
05-09-09, 04:18 AM
I see you are after my ex again, you horndog, you!:oops:

At least somebody is having a great time and a wouldn't get worried to much :O:

August
05-09-09, 09:46 AM
The key is not to do the same patterns that supported your smoking. Familiar surroundings and familiar patterns will work against you.

That is standard ALA advice and others mileage may vary but I personally didn't find it all that useful to me

The problem was that EVERYTHING is a smoking trigger and you just can't change or rearrange everything in your life.

Also it was far more basic than something that would be effected by switching the setting around a bit. For example it wasn't where or how I sat down in front of a computer that I got the urge, it was just that I sat down at one, regardless of location or seating or any other environmental detail i'd change. I just had to gut my way through it and that did work, but then I found it came back when I sat down in front of the computer in winter, then again in spring, then also when it turned summer.

I expect that when Rose and I move to the new house next month I'll get the urge again when I sit down at the computer over there even though it's been almost two years. But I'll beat that too because I still have my bag of "No"s.

SUBMAN1
05-09-09, 01:37 PM
Dowly,

This advice I'm going share you and this is no joke it 100% pure real straight out from a family doctor (GP) mouth, are you ready............:hmmm: cause I am going to do my very best to explain :o.

The answer is.........is SEX! Why:06: because this will help you and to keep you in full control in yourself and in your mind. their for you are only focusing on a woman not a Cigarette or a Fag!

The more you focus and concentrate on a woman during sex this will help you to achieve your goal to quit smoking because your handsome hot dog is very powerful than a Cigarette or a Fag, and it take over your problem and your mind off the Cigarette and you are in control with a woman.

Do you understand what I am trying to explain because your brain it more powerful and in full control of yourself to quit smoking is SEX!.

Very important when doing this advice is you have to do as much sex as you can in one FULL LONG DAY! drink plenty of water and eat plenty of food to keep your DI-K alive and going mean it need energy to recharged.

Don't believe.............try it for a week then come here and then you tell me the truth is SEX is mighty then the Cigarette or a Fag.

Oh! and one thing please make sure the woman keep you in control during sex because you cannot do this on your own, this has to be in for full control between a men and a woman..................NOT! the Cigarette or a Fag.

PS. Good luck with your DI-K vs the FAG!

Man, have you ever heard of having a good smoke after sex? Its like the two go hand and hand. Like drinking and smoking - the two go together. Bad plan. :D
-S

Jimbuna
05-09-09, 05:29 PM
Man, have you ever heard of having a good smoke after sex? Its like the two go hand and hand. Like drinking and smoking - the two go together. Bad plan. :D
-S

Best use vaseline then :O:

SpeedyPC
05-10-09, 02:04 AM
Best use vaseline then :O:

OR! Used Cold press extra virgin olive oil will do the trick :O:

OneToughHerring
05-10-09, 09:40 AM
My advice is exercise. Depending on how much exercise you're performing now it may be difficult at first but it'll get easier later. When you get a craving perform press ups, chin ups, etc. Think of it as a journey, when you keep on exercising you are getting further away from out-of-shapeness (which includes smoking ciggies) and are getting closer to being in-good-shape.

Dowly
05-10-09, 09:53 AM
Exercising is for sissies. :yep:

Jimbuna
05-10-09, 10:52 AM
Exercising is for sissies. :yep:

Aye....just keep performing those lifting exercises http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img232/3151/iconbeerhr9.gif ...works wonders for the biceps :03:

Murr44
05-10-09, 11:15 AM
Try drinking lots of water. Apparently it helps to flush the nicotine out of your system.

TarJak
05-11-09, 01:36 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6410870,00.jpg

Hey Dowly that's not water!

SpeedyPC
05-11-09, 02:40 AM
Exercising is for sissies. :yep:

True but did you know sex is also exercising as well and is not for sissies. :O:

Jimbuna
05-11-09, 03:22 AM
No update on how he's getting on yet? :hmmm:

Oh look!....Look what just flew by my office window http://www.freefever.com/animatedgifs/animated/pig5.gif

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6324/uowyaydh5wc2zm2.gif

Rilder
05-11-09, 03:26 AM
Heres how to quit smoking: Get surgery, Hospitals don't allow you to smoke and you'll be on enough pain meds that it won't matter anyways.

That's how my father quit, and he was a really heavy smoker.

McBeck
05-12-09, 04:09 AM
What I found out was the different people have different fears of what will happen when they stop smoking.

Alot of this are addressed in the book.

For my wife it was "When you have withdrawls, where does it hurt"...since my wife couldnt answer that, maybe the withdrawls wasnt that bad

For it was, when reading the book I realized that after app 3 weeks, I would feal all day, how I felt just after a smoke. That realy took away my fears.

So its different fears for different people

And you HAVE to smoke while you read the book - it will tell you when you should light up :D

I hope it works for you too...

antikristuseke
05-12-09, 04:11 AM
For me the worst aspect of withdrawal is the worsening of my allready annoying insomnia.

McBeck
05-17-09, 02:50 AM
Any update?

XabbaRus
05-17-09, 04:10 AM
I've decided to join Dowly and quit. Been 3 days without a smoke and it feels good. Even if my wife pops out for a ciggy I feel no need to have one.

Weird I just had one last ciggy at night then the next poof, none.

Dowly
05-17-09, 04:56 AM
Good choice, Xab. :up:

Jimbuna
05-17-09, 04:59 AM
Latest picture of Dowly....fighting the craving

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/insane_sports2/ferret4.jpg

August
05-17-09, 11:17 AM
Weird I just had one last ciggy at night then the next poof, none.

Good for you XabbaRus! That is just the way to do it.

XabbaRus
05-17-09, 03:49 PM
You know what is weird. How it seems so normal. In fact my wife still pops out for a smoke and I realise how it stinks. I'm having a go at her to quit. Its not a huge amount but enough.

The big test is when we go on holiday.

longam
05-17-09, 04:12 PM
What really was an eye opener for me was why did I think I needed this? Then I realized how bad the addiction rule your life.

AVGWarhawk
05-17-09, 06:22 PM
Any update?

I have received the book you suggested. I'm about a 1/4 through. The author says to continue smoking until the book is completed by the reader. Thus I continue to smoke although just the first few chapters makes me self-aware of the cigarettes. This guy smoked anywhere from 60-100 cigarettes a day. Christ, I would be dead that afternoon if I smoked that many in one day. At any rate, his points and observations are accurate concerning smoking. Currently I have read through the smoking myths concerning stress and boredom. It is an excellent book and I will follow his instructions to the letter and quit when I get to the chapter that the author states is the time to drop the poison sticks. At this point, I think I could put them down for good after reading 70 some odd pages. Thanks for the recommendation McBeck. PS, my wife is reading the book also so we can kind of be a support group for each other. :up:

Task Force
05-17-09, 09:16 PM
Wow, looks like there has been a cig quitting revolution here at subsim.:lol:

SpeedyPC
05-18-09, 01:52 AM
You know what is weird. How it seems so normal. In fact my wife still pops out for a smoke and I realise how it stinks. I'm having a go at her to quit. Its not a huge amount but enough.

The big test is when we go on holiday.

Try and rub some Garlic on the end of the butt say 20 of them before she light one up, because this will make it taste really funny :haha: because I did this joke on father and he realise he was complaining about his smoking problem.

Suddenly his got the sh*ts and starting getting a new packet and I rub some Garlic again the whole packet on the end of the butt, WARNING! you have to make sure the Garlic is dry on the end of the butt before she light up otherwise she could smell the Garlic very easy.........On the other hand I'm thinking about rubbing some chili on the end of the butt before she light up you know what this means :D:O::O::yeah:

Fish
05-18-09, 05:56 AM
Good luck you will need it! Oh and finally if you fail, dont give up get back at it!:salute:

Right, you probable will lapse back, but just start over again. I did it three times then I was free.
That was in 1964 :yep: , first time I learned about the bad side of smoking tabacco.

McBeck
05-18-09, 11:08 AM
I have received the book you suggested. I'm about a 1/4 through. The author says to continue smoking until the book is completed by the reader. Thus I continue to smoke although just the first few chapters makes me self-aware of the cigarettes. This guy smoked anywhere from 60-100 cigarettes a day. Christ, I would be dead that afternoon if I smoked that many in one day. At any rate, his points and observations are accurate concerning smoking. Currently I have read through the smoking myths concerning stress and boredom. It is an excellent book and I will follow his instructions to the letter and quit when I get to the chapter that the author states is the time to drop the poison sticks. At this point, I think I could put them down for good after reading 70 some odd pages. Thanks for the recommendation McBeck. PS, my wife is reading the book also so we can kind of be a support group for each other. :up:
Great! I hope it works for you and your wife a good as it worked for us :D

HunterICX
05-18-09, 11:16 AM
This should be a SubSim frontpage article ''Subsim quits smoking'' :D

HunterICX

Jimbuna
05-18-09, 11:28 AM
This should be a SubSim frontpage article ''Subsim quits smoking'' :D

HunterICX

Hardly....I reckon Dowly is smoking like a chimney in the background :rotfl:

Not like him to stop popping in :hmmm:

AVGWarhawk
05-18-09, 11:28 AM
Great! I hope it works for you and your wife a good as it worked for us :D

Today she started questioning me about getting over the pangs of quiting. I was however standing in the shower at the time. :haha: I'm a bit ahead of her in the book. I told her I have not read that far. So, we are already talking about it and being a support to one another. I think she will be a tougher nut to crack in stopping the smoking only because she is excellent at finding what she thinks is a legitimate excuse to smoke. Once I stop and request she takes the smokes outside she will probably stop. :D

AVGWarhawk
05-18-09, 11:29 AM
This should be a SubSim frontpage article ''Subsim quits smoking'' :D

HunterICX


As long as the headline does not read, "Subsim Gives Up the Butts" :03:

August
05-18-09, 12:10 PM
Today she started questioning me about getting over the pangs of quiting. I was however standing in the shower at the time. :haha: I'm a bit ahead of her in the book. I told her I have not read that far. So, we are already talking about it and being a support to one another. I think she will be a tougher nut to crack in stopping the smoking only because she is excellent at finding what she thinks is a legitimate excuse to smoke. Once I stop and request she takes the smokes outside she will probably stop. :D

The thing to remember is that even if she fails at quitting that doesn't mean you have to as well.

Raptor1
05-18-09, 12:13 PM
Hardly....I reckon Dowly is smoking like a chimney in the background :rotfl:

Not like him to stop popping in :hmmm:

Of course it's like him, think about it: Smoking = Not drinking, Not smoking = More time to drink

Dowly
05-18-09, 12:15 PM
:har::har:

Jimbuna
05-18-09, 01:28 PM
"Hey....give me that cigar"

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/120187210_829dadd943.jpg?v=0

"Okay okay...I'll just have more of this instead"

http://media3.guzer.com/pictures/ferret_beer.jpg

antikristuseke
05-18-09, 01:46 PM
Bud Light?
If I wanted urine, I could get it for free.

Task Force
05-18-09, 02:09 PM
Now lets try to get dowly to stop drinking... whos got the stright jacket.:lol:

Raptor1
05-18-09, 02:10 PM
Now lets try to get dowly to stop drinking... whos got the stright jacket.:lol:

There's only one way to do that

*pulls bolt on Mosin-Nagant*

Jimbuna
05-18-09, 03:18 PM
Bud Light?
If I wanted urine, I could get it for free.

But Dowly hasn't learned that yet :D

Dowly
05-18-09, 03:19 PM
Never tried Bud tbh. :hmmm:

McBeck
05-19-09, 01:36 AM
Today she started questioning me about getting over the pangs of quiting. I was however standing in the shower at the time. :haha: I'm a bit ahead of her in the book. I told her I have not read that far. So, we are already talking about it and being a support to one another. I think she will be a tougher nut to crack in stopping the smoking only because she is excellent at finding what she thinks is a legitimate excuse to smoke. Once I stop and request she takes the smokes outside she will probably stop. :D
Well, this books works for those who really want to stop and if shes always looking for excuses it does not seem like she really wants to quit.

Sometime you need to read the book twice for it to work though :)

AVGWarhawk
05-19-09, 07:36 AM
She was reading the book yesterday when I got home. It has drawn her interest. I suspect we will quit at the same time and make life a bit easier working it out together.

AVGWarhawk
05-21-09, 09:05 AM
Well, day 2 for my wife without a smoke. I stopped yesterday at 1300 hours. Doing well. No really bangs for nicotine. Already stopped coughing. I was working on chronic bronchitis. I had the classic symptoms for bronchitis. Within one day the tightness in my chest, coughing and spitting up gunk is gone. Amazing. The smell of cigarettes has the smell that I remember over 30 years ago when I first started messing with the damn things. They STINK! I will be fine as long as there is no cigarettes around the house or work. I can prevent myself from buying any... I always hated buying them so now I'm motivated to really not buy them.

So far so good! The book McBeck recommended seems to work. Reverse brainwashing but a brainwashing for the best. In three weeks this cigarette smoking will be a thing of my past. :rock:

Raptor1
05-21-09, 09:28 AM
In three weeks this cigarette smoking will be a thing of my past. :rock:

Famous last words...:O:

AVGWarhawk
05-21-09, 09:32 AM
Famous last words...:O:

Thanks for the support :yeah:.....no wait:shifty:

AVGWarhawk
05-25-09, 06:59 AM
On day 5 Raptor1 :O:

Jimbuna
05-25-09, 08:03 AM
Well done that man :sunny:

Send your spare and unused packets over here :DL

AVGWarhawk
05-25-09, 04:18 PM
Well done that man :sunny:

Send your spare and unused packets over here :DL

There is one pack left and it is still sealed. I think my wife is giving them to her cousin. No matter, as long as they are not in the house. :up:

Jim, are you a smoker?

Jimbuna
05-26-09, 04:56 AM
There is one pack left and it is still sealed. I think my wife is giving them to her cousin. No matter, as long as they are not in the house. :up:

Jim, are you a smoker?

Yes unfortunately....best way I have found in developing a coping strategy for stress. I witnessed too many colleagues turn to the alcohol route in a BIG fashion. :nope:

AVGWarhawk
05-26-09, 08:44 AM
Yes unfortunately....best way I have found in developing a coping strategy for stress. I witnessed too many colleagues turn to the alcohol route in a BIG fashion. :nope:

Get the book McBeck recommends. You will find the smokes cause more stress than the actual job or anything else life throws at you. Seriously!

McBeck
05-26-09, 08:53 AM
Get the book McBeck recommends. You will find the smokes cause more stress than the actual job or anything else life throws at you. Seriously!
Maybe I should get paid for spreading the cure of smoking :know:

Jimbuna
05-26-09, 11:26 AM
Maybe I should get paid for spreading the cure of smoking :know:

You'd be worth every penny mate.

I think back to the times when I thought the money savings incentive would be sufficient reason......I'd look for something extravagant like a new pc or hifi and start putting £5 a day into a jar.

After a month or so (once managed for three months) I'd say..."Bugga this, it's taking too long" and go to the shop or wherever and buy it anyway, considering the bundle of fivers as a kind of discount. :DL

AVGWarhawk
05-26-09, 11:52 AM
The money was secondary to the stopping. Health is was the number one reason. The extra money was just a bonus. I figured between me and the wife it was $10.00 addiction per day. Do the math at 365 days....$3650.00. That is a friggin cruise for two once a year for a full week each time! But tell you what, breathing easier, chest pain gone and good night sleep without waking to cough is much more rewarding. Plus... the stress and problem of always making sure you have enough cigarettes is gone. One less worry for the day!

XabbaRus
05-26-09, 12:18 PM
I agree with AVG.

On Thursday I will be 2 weeks without a ciggy and this is with no book.
Just shows you don't need the gum or whatever.

AVGWarhawk
05-26-09, 12:26 PM
I agree with AVG.

On Thursday I will be 2 weeks without a ciggy and this is with no book.
Just shows you don't need the gum or whatever.

The book will tell you gum, patches or any other form of nicotine is just another way of getting your nicotine. Smoking is not a habit...it is an addiction. Remove the nicotine in any form. Quiting is all a state of mind.

Platapus
05-26-09, 01:30 PM
Conga rats to all those quitting.

In this case, we love quitters. :yeah:

Best of luck to all of you. :salute:

Raptor1
05-26-09, 01:41 PM
Oh, a sticky, so we all can easily get here to point and laugh?

XabbaRus
05-26-09, 01:44 PM
I hope Neal doesn't mind I stickied this thread as it is great people are quitting and maybe this can be encouragement.

kiwi_2005
05-27-09, 02:49 PM
The book will tell you gum, patches or any other form of nicotine is just another way of getting your nicotine. Smoking is not a habit...it is an addiction. Remove the nicotine in any form. Quiting is all a state of mind.

Yep once the nicotine is removed your practically given up. When i started using the nicotine patches within minutes yes minutes not hours or days but minutes the craving disappeared - im speaking for myself not others for others the patches might not do a thing but for me it was a shock to the system in a good way. I was put on the highest dose of nicotine patches available for heavy smokers so thus might be the reason why it worked as ive heard of smokers having patches on one arm and smoking a cig with the other! - the dose wouldn't of been enough to help. I didn't even suffer from withdrawals etc thanks to the patches ., but the habit was still there - every time i had a coffee/beer or straight after dinner i would want a cigarette. I would just talk myself out of it or find something to do with my hands - this wanting a cig usually lasted about 10minutes i would just forget that i wanted one as i found myself doing something else.

McBeck
05-27-09, 02:57 PM
Quiting is all a state of mind.
Yup....and you really need to understand that! If you dont understand the mental mechanics behind smoking, it will be really hard for you to quit, because it will all be on willpower - you will loose!

AVGWarhawk
05-27-09, 02:57 PM
I tried the patch when they first hit the market. They made me short of breath and I was still smoking with the patch on:shifty: I dumped those. I tried the gum once. No good. SNUS satisfied but I was only getting the nicotine in a different form. I found it best to just drop them and keep a positive mind. It seems to work. Tomorrow puts me at a week away from smoking.

What I have noticed:
Increased energy
coughing just about stopped (lungs working on getting it all the chemicals out)
House smells better
Car smells better
I smell better
I'm less stressed as I'm not worried about getting cigarettes
Food tastes better
I have money in my pocket. The same $5.00 in my wallet since a week ago
breathing much easier and I do not loose my breath walking up stairs

That list sure beats COPD and walking around with a O2 tank strapped to my back.

AVGWarhawk
05-27-09, 03:01 PM
Oh, a sticky, so we all can easily get here to point and laugh?

Why point and laugh?

August
05-27-09, 03:06 PM
The point is that getting over the physical addiction is the easiest part of quitting smoking.

All the gum and patches do, and i've tried both, is drag that out which makes getting over the psychological addiction that much more difficult.

kiwi_2005
05-27-09, 03:14 PM
Well for me i couldn't of done it without the patches i was to weak willed to do it any other way lol. I tried so many times over the years - cold turkey a form of herbal recipes, weight training, yoga, was even one time there going to try hypnosis which they say has a 99% success rate. I would never get past the first week when trying to kick the habit. Then i decided to try the patches and gave up within 3 weeks.

Its been a little over a year now since i gave up. A smoker for 22yrs.

XabbaRus
05-27-09, 03:21 PM
I didn't have the coughing thing but now everything does feel better.

Maybe my lungs are too screwed to be cleaned but what I enjoy best is waking up in the morning without feeling tired and not having a sore throat.

AVGWarhawk
05-27-09, 03:26 PM
The coughing for me was getting bad. It would wake me at night so I could hack up some of the nastiness. Since I stopped the coughing is just about gone and I sleep through the night.


Maybe my lungs are too screwed to be cleaned


It can take up to one year to clean out the lungs. From what I read it could be just a good cough in the morning or small coughs throughout the day. Either way your cilia is growing back and the cilia clean out the lungs.

Jimbuna
05-27-09, 04:08 PM
All the best to anyone attempting to quit the dreaded weed :up:

FIREWALL
05-27-09, 04:25 PM
I wish all you Quitters the very best. I've lost two close friends to COPD and Emphysema.

They both died a slow and painfull death.

It made me wakeup and go cold turkey. 4yrs Smoke free. :woot:

AVGWarhawk
05-28-09, 08:21 AM
All the best to anyone attempting to quit the dreaded weed :up:

Come on Jim, join the party. The clean air is fine:D

AVGWarhawk
05-28-09, 08:23 AM
I wish all you Quitters the very best. I've lost two close friends to COPD and Emphysema.

They both died a slow and painfull death.

It made me wakeup and go cold turkey. 4yrs Smoke free. :woot:


That is great Firewall!!! I looked at COPD and what it entails. Really, what a debilitating disease. Then I thought, do I really want to carry around an O2 tank for the rest of my life gasping for air all because of smoking that I could have and should have quit long ago? Hell, no. Time to quit now while I'm ahead of the game. :up:

Jimbuna
05-28-09, 09:05 AM
Come on Jim, join the party. The clean air is fine:D

I'm stuck on HMS Thanatus with a load of sheep atm....may be time to come up for some freash air soon :DL

Zoomer96
05-28-09, 09:11 AM
:sunny:Hey Congratulations on not smoking!! I'm smoke-free 8 years now. Toughest thing I've ever stopped doing. I smoked for 36 years and it took me years to stop. I used the gum, the anti-depressants, the patches, and they can help but not for me. Here's what I did.....Smoked the last one before bed and destroyed the rest of the pack, and next day I put off going to get more for 15 minutes, or 30 minutes or 2 minutes. when I reached the end of whatever time limit I set, I would put it off again and set another limit for until the cravings became bearable. I also found that cinnamon sticks would help put off the urge. I guess I went through a thousand of those things. In the middle of the night I would get a Freeze Pop and eat those things till I could go back to sleep. Also try to keep busy it helps to take your mind off the craving. Above all, if something happens and you do start smoking again, be sure to decide on a new quit date. Just keep trying to stop smoking. Eventually you will make it. Just don't stop trying to stop smoking. Also don't hang out with other smokers because it is just too easy to bum a smoke from them. (Most every smoker wants us to smoke with them.) Don't go to places where its O.K. to smoke either.
Chances are that you'll always face times when you will want to smoke till the day you die. That is the nature of the beast. I also called the American Cancer Society and asked them for any literature they could send me. I imagine you can go to their website these days. Hope this helps you and Good Luck!!

AVGWarhawk
05-28-09, 09:28 AM
Funny you mention cinnamon sticks. Pistachhios help me get past the graving I get every now and then. Even those gravings are getting further apart and hopefully gone very shortly. I started smoking when I was 15. I will be 44 June 30th. So, yeah, it is time to quit after all those years.

NeonSamurai
05-28-09, 10:48 AM
Although the chemical addiction can be difficult to break, Its the habit (psychological addiction) that is the most long lasting, and most difficult to control. That is what nags, cajoles, and harasses you to smoke again for weeks to months after quitting. The chemical part goes away after a few weeks, and peaks at around 3 days. The other part though can take months even years (some even say it never quite goes away).

That is why mental discipline and having a list of reasons to fight the urges with helps.

FIREWALL
05-28-09, 10:56 AM
Replace smokeing with other things that give you pleasure. :yep:

AVGWarhawk
05-28-09, 11:28 AM
Replace smokeing with other things that give you pleasure. :yep:


Yeah DRINK'IN....no wait:shifty:

Jimbuna
05-28-09, 11:36 AM
Replace smokeing with other things that give you pleasure. :yep:

But my hair stylist looks at me suspiciously when I ask him to trim the hairs on the palms of my hands.

Happy Times
05-30-09, 07:50 AM
Didnt read this trough but why is this a sticky?
I smoked over ten years and just stopped.
Its all mental and very easy if you really want to stop.
All addictions are mostly symptoms of deeper psychological issues.
If you cant analyze yourself, go to a professional.

August
05-30-09, 10:16 AM
Didnt read this trough but why is this a sticky?

Sometimes folks just need a little encouragement from their friends?

XabbaRus
05-30-09, 10:43 AM
Exactly, I stickied it as it seemed there were a few of us quitting and though I am finding it quite easy others might not thought with the thread it could give encouragement.

Its all mental and very easy if you really want to stop.
All addictions are mostly symptoms of deeper psychological issues.

I think that is a bit unfair really. You're lucky others might need a bit more support.

Nisgeis
05-30-09, 03:24 PM
Anything to avoid that makes me want to have a cig?

What would happen to you if you walked down the street and shoved a cig in someone's mouth and tried to make them smoke it? you'd get pucnhed in the face that's what. Why don't they want to smoke that cig? You're the one that makes you want to have a cig. Nothing else. If you can go for five days, then you are over the chemical addiction, and that's usually when people decide to have one just to test.. Then because you get the head rush and a fresh input of nicotine you are back on the fags.

The only way to stop smoking is to realise that you want to stop smoking because you don't enjoy it. If you tell yourself that you *DO* enjoy it, then you'll never stop smoking, as you will always think you are missing something enjoyable and wil eventually go back to the 'enjoyment'.

You can never smoke 'just one'. If you do, then you'll smoke the entire packet and then the next one. The notion that if only you could have only the first one, or only the ones after meals is stupid, because of course you can, you just have to not smoke the others. But of course you don't, you smoke even the ones you don't enjoy. That's why you want to stop smoking.

Part of stopping smoking is to realise that there are no 'good' cigarettes. those that think there are the 'good ones' like the ones when you wake or the ones after the meal are going to be living their lives missing the good cigarettes, but of course all cigarettes are the same... they are mass produced in a factory and they don't know when they will be smoked. If you only want to smoke the good ones, never the bad ones, then do that, but of course that's ridiculous. They are all the same, it's only you that makes them good or bad. They're all bad! If you make them good, you'll like them.

So, do you want to stop smoking because you don't enjoy it?

If you do, then simple, why continue to do something you don't enjoy? If you do enjoy it, then logically you should chain smoke - get maximum enjoyment.

Platapus
05-30-09, 03:27 PM
But my hair stylist looks at me suspiciously when I ask him to trim the hairs on the palms of my hands.

There just has to be a lamo joke about "King Size" here... there just has to be. :har:

AVGWarhawk
05-30-09, 07:57 PM
Didnt read this trough but why is this a sticky?
I smoked over ten years and just stopped.
Its all mental and very easy if you really want to stop.
All addictions are mostly symptoms of deeper psychological issues.
If you cant analyze yourself, go to a professional.

It is sticked to help others, give encouragement and ideas for quiting or help in quiting. Some are not as stalwart as you after 10 years of smoking and just stopping...no wait....I started when I was 14 and I'm now 43. I just stopped 9 days ago. Was it all mental? Nope, nicotine is a drug and addiction. It takes 3 weeks to have the body 99% nicotine free. That is purely physical. Once the smoker gets past that then it is a mental game. All addictions are mostly symptons of deeper psychological issues? Huh? Do you have some concrete evidence this is in fact the case? :hmmm:

FIREWALL
05-30-09, 08:34 PM
You could take a small dose of strychnine daily as opposed to smokeing and it would be healthier.

The Stickey here is just as good of a support site as anywhere else. :up:

August
05-30-09, 09:41 PM
You could take a small dose of strychnine daily as opposed to smokeing and it would be healthier.

The Stickey here is just as good of a support site as anywhere else. :up:



Best of all it's free! And as we all know anything free is worth saving up for... :yep:

Nisgeis
05-31-09, 03:52 AM
It takes 3 weeks to have the body 99% nicotine free.

I have heard three weeks and I've heard much longer, I've also heard it was about five days, that would make sense as when people I have known have tried to stop, that's about the time some of them have a cigarrette 'just to check'. Has anyone else done that - smoked one just to see if they are over them?

OneToughHerring
05-31-09, 04:38 AM
You could take a small dose of strychnine daily as opposed to smokeing and it would be healthier.

The Stickey here is just as good of a support site as anywhere else. :up:



If you take arsenic in small doses and gradually up the intake you will develop a resistance to it. I read about it in a Sherlock Holmes mystery book. :)

I've never smoked in my life, unless secondary smoking counts, but I am trying to cut down on my coffee intake down to about three cups/day. So far so good.

Jimbuna
05-31-09, 05:09 AM
You could take a small dose of strychnine daily as opposed to smokeing and it would be healthier.

The Stickey here is just as good of a support site as anywhere else. :up:



You've obviously sampled my wifes cooking :hmmm:

FIREWALL
05-31-09, 05:33 AM
You've obviously sampled my wifes cooking :hmmm:

:haha: Her cooking must give you insomnia. You have been on line today forever Jim. And I should talk. It's 3am here and I booted up and came here off and on since 10 am this morning. :yawn::yawn::yawn:

But we have so much fun. :yep: :doh: :D

Jimbuna
05-31-09, 05:38 AM
:haha: Her cooking must give you insomnia. You have been on line today forever Jim. And I should talk. It's 3am here and I booted up and came here off and on since 10 am this morning. :yawn::yawn::yawn:

But we have so much fun. :yep: :doh: :D

11:36 here...got out of my pit less than an hour ago.

I do leave the server running 24/7 for TS though :hmmm:

AVGWarhawk
05-31-09, 07:36 AM
I have heard three weeks and I've heard much longer, I've also heard it was about five days, that would make sense as when people I have known have tried to stop, that's about the time some of them have a cigarrette 'just to check'. Has anyone else done that - smoked one just to see if they are over them?


From what I understand just trying one is enough to get a smoker going again. It is the mind game. I can have just one and no more. I have quit and it will not hurt. After the first the smoker says not so bad how about another. Then it goes to more and more. It is recommended to just stay away. I can say with honesty that this has happened to me three times.

I have had spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung) three times. Two times on my left and once on my right. A hospital stay with chest tube to help the hole in the lung heal is 7-10 days. Of course you can not smoke in a hospitals therefore, laying there for that long rids any physical or mental thought of a cigarette. All three times I have come home and have not smoked anywhere from 2-3 months. Then I pick up just one, then two, then three and then a pack. I'm right back at time. It is best to say no, not interested.

August
06-02-09, 10:26 PM
Yeah. Kicking the physical jones is the easy part. It's the psychological addiction that is the real battle, and in that patches and gum do not help.

I turn 50 this year and it's been 1 Year 10 months since my last dose of nicotine. Only 23 more years to go and i'll have been a non smoker for over half my lifetime.

XabbaRus
06-03-09, 01:56 AM
How are you guys doing? I agree with August here but I think you also need something to "click" in your mind.

Keep it up.

Jimbuna
06-03-09, 07:47 AM
I'm now on day three without a fag....but if I'm to be totally honest, I do curently suffer from a chest infection :DL

McBeck
06-03-09, 07:52 AM
Yeah...its funny how you realy dont need a smoke when you are sick :)

AVGWarhawk
06-03-09, 07:52 AM
Tomorrow will be week number 2. I believe it is correct that pulling one self from any form of nicotine is the only way to go. Yes, something needs to click in your mind. The book McBeck offered up worked for me plus the fact of coughing and generally knowingly killing myself smoking. :x The worst part was waking in the morning and wanting that first cigarette. I'm now over that and good to go!

AVGWarhawk
06-03-09, 07:54 AM
I'm now on day three without a fag....but if I'm to be totally honest, I do curently suffer from a chest infection :DL

Hey, good way to kick off the stop smoking:yeah:. I'm working on a chest cold myself. It did not help that me and my daughter went swimming in a very cold pool this weekend. :shifty: She has it also.

Jimbuna
06-03-09, 08:06 AM
Hey, good way to kick off the stop smoking:yeah:. I'm working on a chest cold myself. It did not help that me and my daughter went swimming in a very cold pool this weekend. :shifty: She has it also.

I wish your daughter a speedy recovery.....you though, should have known better ya silly old bugga :DL

AVGWarhawk
06-03-09, 09:46 AM
She talked me into it :oops: Then again, my other daughter talked me into a hypercoaster called Apollos Chariot.....never again. :oops:

Falkirion
06-03-09, 06:34 PM
I've been clean for 3 months. I knew I had to quit and since I managed to do it once I figured it'd be easier second time round. It wasn't. Still got the powerful cravings for a smoke, hell going on 3 months clean I still get cravings for one.

Gotta remember to thank my girlfriend when I get home tonight, she's the main reason I quit this time. That and my parents are outright opposed to smoking.

August
06-03-09, 09:55 PM
I think you also need something to "click" in your mind.


I agree. My click was a heart attack.

SUBMAN1
06-03-09, 10:14 PM
I agree. My click was a heart attack.

Ouchie! :o

McBeck
06-05-09, 03:57 PM
I've been clean for 3 months. I knew I had to quit and since I managed to do it once I figured it'd be easier second time round. It wasn't. Still got the powerful cravings for a smoke, hell going on 3 months clean I still get cravings for one.

Gotta remember to thank my girlfriend when I get home tonight, she's the main reason I quit this time. That and my parents are outright opposed to smoking.
If you still got the cravings....you may want to try this book!

AVGWarhawk
06-08-09, 07:55 AM
If you still got the cravings....you may want to try this book!

Yeah, try the book McBeck recommends. Allen Carr, 'Stop Smoking the Easy Way'. I have heard from several that reading the book makes something click in your head and the cravings are diminshed quite a bit or are gone all together. In my case the cravings are totally gone...going on my third week. I used to smoke about a pack a day. My wife had her gravings diminish. Here friend who is reading the book know AFTER she stopped smoking a week ago was experiencing the cravings. About chapter 5 she said something clicked in her brain and the cravings were gone completely. I got the book from Amazon for $10.00. Best $10.00 I ever spent.

longam
06-18-09, 03:50 PM
This is a short interesting medical film about COPD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktIMBQSXMo

Wish you all the best of luck, I still keep a check myself even after a year :03:

Jimbuna
06-19-09, 08:46 AM
Thanks for that :up:

Still cigarette free during this month of June.....very early days I know.

I've found it suprisingly easy thus far but am well aware the true battle may well lie ahead.

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 08:54 AM
Excellent Jim. I passed week 4 just yesterday. I get a graving every now and then but I think that I have gone this far and do not want to screw it up. I still cough up the nasty tar but not as near as much as 4 weeks ago. Tell you want, my bank account sure is much fuller. Since both me and my wife stopped we are saving $14.00/day. That is $98.00/week. If we multiply that by 52 weeks that is a $5418.00 in savings/yeaf. Do you realize what kinds of vacation we could have with that money? You bet we do! We are already planning on a Disneyland trip next year. :D

Keep it up man, somehow when you kick the smokes you feel empowered and in control of your own destiny. Think about it, you kicked the most addictive crap on the planet. That says something about you as a person :03:

Jimbuna
06-19-09, 09:05 AM
Excellent Jim. I passed week 4 just yesterday. I get a graving every now and then but I think that I have gone this far and do not want to screw it up. I still cough up the nasty tar but not as near as much as 4 weeks ago. Tell you want, my bank account sure is much fuller. Since both me and my wife stopped we are saving $14.00/day. That is $98.00/week. If we multiply that by 52 weeks that is a $5418.00 in savings/yeaf. Do you realize what kinds of vacation we could have with that money? You bet we do! We are already planning on a Disneyland trip next year. :D

Keep it up man, somehow when you kick the smokes you feel empowered and in control of your own destiny. Think about it, you kicked the most addictive crap on the planet. That says something about you as a person :03:

Permit me to reciprocate in kind.....bloody good going :rock:

The coughing bit.....I sense a very small worsening of my chest (bearing in mind I stopped whilst suffering the effects of man flu LOL)...did you experience similarly at first? (seeing as your a week ahead of me) :hmmm:

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 09:22 AM
Oh hell yeah, one week after stopping I got a sever cold and my bronchi were raw as hell. That lasted for about a week. See, they do not go into possible symptoms of stopping. I was coughing so hard that there was traces of blood in the phlegm. (yeah, yuck). It was not much but the onset of that cold and bronchi that were already working on being a chronic issue produced traces of blood. I got online and found plenty of forums with folks who have had the same problems and syptoms after stopping the cigarettes. That is all gone now and I feel great. I'm not out of breath at all and plenty of energy.

Yes, you will feel worse before you feel better. Coughing is just about non-existant now. I do not feel like I'm under the thumb thinking about cigarettes and hoping I have enough. I have not been to the convience store since I quit. Overall, I'm pleased with the results and so are my kids. :up:

Onkel Neal
06-19-09, 09:48 AM
Thanks for that :up:

Still cigarette free during this month of June.....very early days I know.

I've found it suprisingly easy thus far but am well aware the true battle may well lie ahead.


Good going, hang in there Jim. You're too clever by half to be a smoker. You can do it, man :yeah:


Excellent Jim. I passed week 4 just yesterday. I get a graving every now and then but I think that I have gone this far and do not want to screw it up. I still cough up the nasty tar but not as near as much as 4 weeks ago. Tell you want, my bank account sure is much fuller. Since both me and my wife stopped we are saving $14.00/day. That is $98.00/week. If we multiply that by 52 weeks that is a $5418.00 in savings/yeaf. Do you realize what kinds of vacation we could have with that money? You bet we do! We are already planning on a Disneyland trip next year. :D

Keep it up man, somehow when you kick the smokes you feel empowered and in control of your own destiny. Think about it, you kicked the most addictive crap on the planet. That says something about you as a person :03:

I'm pulling for you, it won't be long and your sense of smell will return. Next time you get in an elevator or a car with a smoker, you'll realize how bad the stench is.

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 09:54 AM
I'm pulling for you, it won't be long and your sense of smell will return. Next time you get in an elevator or a car with a smoker, you'll realize how bad the stench is.


Oh hell, I was there after week one. Then I found out how bad I smell even when not smoking:shifty:

Anyway, I have seriously consider starting thinking about jogging. I have already started buying fruits. This week alone I have had a banana, peach and apple every day. My body is wondering just what the hell I'm doing with it. :har:

Jimbuna
06-19-09, 11:05 AM
Good going, hang in there Jim. You're too clever by half to be a smoker. You can do it, man :yeah:


Cheers Neal :up:

Oh hell yeah, one week after stopping I got a sever cold and my bronchi were raw as hell. That lasted for about a week. See, they do not go into possible symptoms of stopping. I was coughing so hard that there was traces of blood in the phlegm. (yeah, yuck). It was not much but the onset of that cold and bronchi that were already working on being a chronic issue produced traces of blood. I got online and found plenty of forums with folks who have had the same problems and syptoms after stopping the cigarettes. That is all gone now and I feel great. I'm not out of breath at all and plenty of energy.

Yes, you will feel worse before you feel better. Coughing is just about non-existant now. I do not feel like I'm under the thumb thinking about cigarettes and hoping I have enough. I have not been to the convience store since I quit. Overall, I'm pleased with the results and so are my kids. :up:

Oh I still get the breathlessness, but I expect that at my age :DL

Oh hell, I was there after week one. Then I found out how bad I smell even when not smoking:shifty:

Anyway, I have seriously consider starting thinking about jogging. I have already started buying fruits. This week alone I have had a banana, peach and apple every day. My body is wondering just what the hell I'm doing with it. :har:

"Jogging"!! :o

I'm fast approaching 17 stone, so I'm not sure what would hasten the onset of the heart attack the quickest.....the obesity or the exercise :doh:

FIREWALL
06-19-09, 11:19 AM
Cograts Jim and others on your Quest. :salute:

The big PAYOFF is in later life you'll be able to run and play with your Grand Kids. :woot::woot::woot:

Kick that habit. :yep: Don't let it kick you ! :nope:

4+ yrs clean :DL And loveing every minute of it. :woot:

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 12:27 PM
Oh I still get the breathlessness, but I expect that at my age :DL



Jim, I will be 44 on June 30th. I do not know your age but I can tell you this. The body is an amazing thing and it loves to repair itself. I was way out of breath 4 weeks ago. I was waking at night just to cough. My bronchi hurt all the time. Cutting the grass or walking fast made me breath very heavy. Not any more. I sleep all night, after my cold my bronchi are 100%, I'm not huffing and buffing cutting the grass. I was seriously wondering if my breathing would get better about two weeks ago. I was concerned to the point of thinking of seeing a pulminary Dr. I read up on symptoms of quitting and I had just about all of them. As of 4 weeks I feel great.


Jogging"!! :o

I'm fast approaching 17 stone, so I'm not sure what would hasten the onset of the heart attack the quickest.....the obesity or the exercise :doh:


I do not know how much 17 stone is but I'm guessing it is not light. I weighed myself last week. I'm 30 lbs over my target weight for my height. I have never weighed this much. Now, with this new found oxygen finding it's way in via my clean lungs it is time for physical activity. I have not started jogging yet but I'm preparing to start walking and walking quickly. I will work my way up to jogging. I feel that good and of the mind to start doing this activity. This comes from a guy who smoked 20 plus a day since I was 14 years old.

My feeling is you are still getting over your chest cold. It was about a week and half for me to get over mine. I'm 100% now. You are at 3 weeks. At 3 weeks 99.9% of the nictotine is out of you body. The rest is mental and coughing up the tar as your cilia grows again inside your bronchi. This regrowing of cilia creates coughing also. So, yes, you are up against a battle but you are winning. Keep saying that in your mind!

I never invisioned myself without cigarettes(fags). Today I wondered why I smoked in the first place.

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 12:28 PM
That reminds me, Dowly, you started this. Have you quit? If not, I will mail you the book McBeck suggested. It worked wonders. Let me know:03:

HunterICX
06-19-09, 12:36 PM
Today I wondered why I smoked in the first place.

having stopped for more then 1 year and a half now, I have the ''Wtf was I thinking to start smoking back then'':D

HunterICX

FIREWALL
06-19-09, 12:39 PM
Jim, I will be 44 on June 30th. I do not know your age but I can tell you this. The body is an amazing thing and it loves to repair itself. I was way out of breath 4 weeks ago. I was waking at night just to cough. My bronchi hurt all the time. Cutting the grass or walking fast made me breath very heavy. Not any more. I sleep all night, after my cold my bronchi are 100%, I'm not huffing and buffing cutting the grass. I was seriously wondering if my breathing would get better about two weeks ago. I was concerned to the point of thinking of seeing a pulminary Dr. I read up on symptoms of quitting and I had just about all of them. As of 4 weeks I feel great.



I do not know how much 17 stone is but I'm guessing it is not light. I weighed myself last week. I'm 30 lbs over my target weight for my height. I have never weighed this much. Now, with this new found oxygen finding it's way in via my clean lungs it is time for physical activity. I have not started jogging yet but I'm preparing to start walking and walking quickly. I will work my way up to jogging. I feel that good and of the mind to start doing this activity. This comes from a guy who smoked 20 plus a day since I was 14 years old.

My feeling is you are still getting over your chest cold. It was about a week and half for me to get over mine. I'm 100% now. You are at 3 weeks. At 3 weeks 99.9% of the nictotine is out of you body. The rest is mental and coughing up the tar as your cilia grows again inside your bronchi. This regrowing of cilia creates coughing also. So, yes, you are up against a battle but you are winning. Keep saying that in your mind!

I never invisioned myself without cigarettes(fags). Today I wondered why I smoked in the first place.


I'm in my mid 40's and had all the same symtoms.

Was 6' 2 and 275lbs Now 240 and happy and healthy. :DL

That nitetime coughing and trying to catch my breath and feeling like I was smothering was scarey. :yep:

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 12:57 PM
having stopped for more then 1 year and a half now, I have the ''Wtf was I thinking to start smoking back then'':D

HunterICX


Yep, already at that point:woot:


That nitetime coughing and trying to catch my breath and feeling like I was smothering was scarey.


Yes it is. That waking at night to hack up primal goo from my lungs sucked. Then I noticed my bronchi hurt....all the time. I was basically ignoring it. Really, Dowly kicked it off with stopping, McBeck gave me the ball (book) to run with and the rest was up to me. All of that I described is gone now. I have more money and worry less about having, finding, affording or offending anyone concerning cigarettes. :03:

Jimbuna
06-19-09, 04:00 PM
I'm 6' and 238lbs (in the UK 1 stone = 14 pounds) and 52 next month.

Last April I was fortunate enough to obtain early retirement, draw a not too miserly index linked pension, pay off my mortgage and purchase a brand new vehicle with the tax free cash element.

I was also exceptionally fortunate to walk into a job that paid a little less than my Police salary, but the new jobs wage and my pension = well you can imagine. Needless to say the wife and I have never been better off.

In fact, next Monday we've got a decorating contractor coming in to decorate the house....how decadent is that? Never known it happen in my family ever :oops:

I suppose looking back and thinking of the symptoms I was experiencing, made me think long and hard about living long enough to enjoy what I'd grafted all my life for (my wife and children have never smoked).

When I read sections of this thread and in particular those posts of encouragement from people such as FIREWALL and yourself (there are more others than I can mention here) I consider it all a great source of inspiration and count myself lucky for being a member of this wonderful community.

If I eventually succeed in quitting the habit I will owe many here a great debt of gratitude.

Spectemur Agendo

XabbaRus
06-19-09, 05:59 PM
I have been 5 weeks now but one thing I haven't had is the coughing? Nor have my lungs hurt. Is there something wrong with me are my lungs too badly screwed or am I just lucky?

longam
06-19-09, 06:50 PM
I have been 5 weeks now but one thing I haven't had is the coughing? Nor have my lungs hurt. Is there something wrong with me are my lungs too badly screwed or am I just lucky?

Same here, my symptoms just went away. Of course my breathing took some time to get better and my right lung still produces some muck on a daily bases, it must just be the individual.

AVGWarhawk
06-19-09, 08:40 PM
Xabba and Longam, my wife quit along side me and she does not cough either. From what I read it is not bad sign. She did not smoke as nearly as many as I nor as long as I. She did not deep inhale like me. Perhaps you exhibit the same smoking habit as her. Needless to say I had quite a collection of tar from cigarettes and cigars. Kick in all the exhaust I sucked up working on cars for eight years and yeah, I got some crap to get out. So, feel fortunate that you did not get to the stage were strands of black nasty goo is still being coughed up. Really guys, it is gross:dead: As far as lung pains there a few things to remember in my case:

I have had 3 Spontaneous pneumothorax. To the common laymen like us that is a collapsed lung. Twice on my left side and once on my right. My left side lung has been glued to my chest wall using talcum powder(Kpt Lehman the EMT would understand the talcum powder). So, I pretty much feel in my lung what my chest is doing and very loud bass from speakers does hurt my lungs(vibrations). Also, I was working on chronic bronchitis. I have no doubt about that at all. So, I got sick when I quit. Coughed like there was no tomorrow until my bronchi was raw and some traces of blood were evident. Nasty:down: That has all past and I feel great now. I feel at 100%. Today I cut the lawn and was not huffing for air. It is a very freeing experience to breath normally.


Jim,

Yes, a pension and working another job does lead to some nice money to use on fun things in life. So, with that in mind, no sense making life miserable for yourself by continuing to smoke and possible getting yourself into a real pickle with possible lung cancer. Enjoy the money, your wife, a new furniture set and paint courtesy of a interior decorator. Enjoy your kids and grand kids. Enjoy it all breathing easy and one less monkey on your back by the name of nicotine. Besides, your wife will not let you smoke in the house or sit on the new furniture smelling like an ashtray. Save yourself the heartburn and stay off the smokes.:D

I owe my kick off to Dowly and the follow through to McBeck on the book recommendation and my wife to quit smoking together. It would be awfully tough if she was still smoking and cigarettes were easily accessible around the house. I owe the fellas on this very thread for the ideas, help and support in kick this crap!

Some things I experience when I first:

Coughing tar
First three days I had headaches
I would wake with the taste of cigarettes in my mouth
I coughed as a result of the cilia in the lungs growing again. Basically hair structures that sweep the crap out of your lungs and you cough up.
I got sick for a better part of a week and half. Head cold, stuffed sinus and raw coughing.

They always tell you the benefits of stopping but do not tell you what you will experience when you attempt to quit. Sure, they talk about cravings but as you can see there is more. Do not let that stuff stop you. The many benefits TRULY outweight the drawbacks. All I listed above are now gone. Every bit of it. :yeah:

Stealhead
06-20-09, 01:56 AM
I think alot of smoking is the habit you get into it somehow almost always to it seems social people you work or go to school with smoke so you end up doing it with them. When I was in Air Force tech school I messed around with smokes for a bit and off and on in highschool but I guess it never became a habit for me they made the daily PT much harder so I just ****canned em.But I can very easily see how that is the start point for many.

My roommate decided that he was gonna cold turkey so he stood over the balcony and smashed his whole pack he told me to keep him from going to the smoke pit when we where on duty and I did. What got him though was when we went out drinking we where stationed in Germany and at the time smoking was allowed in bars and they where thick with it.My buddy hooked up with this german chick and she had smokes and my friend being drunk at the time took one I was getting up with my girl to leave and I told him not to smoke one or hed be right back at it. And he did relapse a few times but he did finaly pull through it. The thing many military people get hooked on is dip/snuff though you are not supposed to use it on duty it is easy to hide that you are using just an empty soda can is all you need or nothing at all if your outside driving a truck or something and if someone calls you out many will simply swallow it. Based on people i knew and saw in the Air Force Id have to guess that about 30% at least military members use it and some also smoke it matches up with an AFN news segmint I saw a few weeks ago(if you have the Military Channel you can see the daily AFN news its in the afternoon some time) about the growing number of military snuffers.

Id say the number one thing is first figuring out what part of smoking you are addicted to(or parts) some it is the nicotene for others it is in the hands and having the cigarette in them and I suppose for some its a related habit like standing around with other smokers/coworkers or not feeling relaxed unless you have smoked.Also be careful not replace one addiction with another that happens to people sometimes. I have heard that snuff is the worst thing you can use nicotine wise as it gets into your blood stream much faster than via the lungs.

Anyway if you are wanting to quit go for it just realize it may not be very easy but the health benafits are well worth it. One of my very close childhood friends his father quit sadly the damage had already been done he got lung cancer and it was pretty advanced but they removed it however the cancer had already spread to his brain in a place that was in-operable it was terriable becasue he lived for about a year but the tumor was growing and of course it was effecting his brain function so his personality was changed at times.He was 45 I belive when he died he had started smoking at 14 or 15.The sooner you can stop doing the damage the better as AVG said about cilla growing back that is damage being repaired and the "muck" is the cilla being able to clean your lungs out again i guess it is your body saying you stupid ****nut whay the hell did you do that **** in the first place? Also it is very nice to be able to breathe fully COPD is anti-breathe which to me is very lame.

Jimbuna
06-20-09, 04:45 AM
Besides, your wife will not let you smoke in the house or sit on the new furniture smelling like an ashtray. Save yourself the heartburn and stay off the smokes.:D


Are you sure you haven't been talking to my wife? :o:DL

AVGWarhawk
06-20-09, 02:02 PM
Are you sure you haven't been talking to my wife? :o:DL

All women are the same no matter what country they reside in :03: My wife would be the same now that we stopped smoking. Don't give in to a lot of flower patterns no matter how much the interior decorator insists!

Jimbuna
06-20-09, 02:37 PM
All women are the same no matter what country they reside in :03: My wife would be the same now that we stopped smoking. Don't give in to a lot of flower patterns no matter how much the interior decorator insists!

Well...let me tell you something <looks over his shoulder first to make sure the wife isn't eavesdropping>....He who pays the piper calls the tune :smug:

AVGWarhawk
06-26-09, 09:29 AM
All right Jim, Friday wrap up. How we doing? I'm still hanging tough:03: Week 5 under the belt. Speaking of belt, I could use a belt of scotch. :D

Jimbuna
06-26-09, 10:07 AM
Sound as a pound Chris....still hanging in there.

Was out with Kratos and a few of the boys last night and never flickered.

At about 22:00 when we went onto the Nelsons blood I must admit I was tempted, but held out :smug:

August
06-26-09, 12:02 PM
Sound as a pound Chris....still hanging in there.

Was out with Kratos and a few of the boys last night and never flickered.

At about 22:00 when we went onto the Nelsons blood I must admit I was tempted, but held out :smug:

Dude! I've never met you but I feel proud of you nonetheless. :salute:

AVGWarhawk
06-26-09, 12:12 PM
Good job Jim! We were at a intergalactic kegger last weekend. Needless to say the smoking was heavy. My wife and I obstained. Gone to far to thrown in the towel:yeah:

HunterICX
06-26-09, 12:20 PM
At about 22:00 when we went onto the Nelsons blood I must admit I was tempted, but held out :smug:

We were at a intergalactic kegger last weekend. Needless to say the smoking was heavy. My wife and I obstained. Gone to far to thrown in the towel:yeah:

Glad your holding up both of you, keep it up :yeah:


HunterICX

FIREWALL
06-26-09, 12:23 PM
For the last few days I've been battleing a cold that I was worried it was the Pig flu. lucky it's just a cold.

If I was still smoking it would have turned into pneumonia and a stay in the hospital.

I hope this post is of some small help to the brave members quiting. :DL

Jimbuna
06-26-09, 04:05 PM
Dude! I've never met you but I feel proud of you nonetheless. :salute:

Thank you my friend http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

I'm the good looking one http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/bubblegum2.gif

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4454/subsim2008074.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/i/subsim2008074.jpg/)

Jimbuna
06-26-09, 04:07 PM
Good job Jim! We were at a intergalactic kegger last weekend. Needless to say the smoking was heavy. My wife and I obstained. Gone to far to thrown in the towel:yeah:

Pleased to hear it :yeah:

What is a "intergalactic kegger"? :hmmm:

lesrae
06-27-09, 11:45 AM
Jim, I will be 44 on June 30th.

I'm 40 on June 30th - we can be Birthday buddies :O)

Dowly
06-27-09, 03:21 PM
Kinky :hmmm:

Jimbuna
06-27-09, 03:45 PM
Patrick Fitzwilliam and William Fitzpatrick :hmmm:

:rotfl:

AVGWarhawk
06-27-09, 04:47 PM
I'm 40 on June 30th - we can be Birthday buddies :O)

But that is all. We won't be blowing out each others candles:o:har:

Dowly
06-27-09, 04:50 PM
But that is all. We won't be blowing out each others candles:o:har:

Stop. Really. :o

Jimbuna
06-27-09, 06:47 PM
But that is all. We won't be blowing out each others candles:o:har:

You do realise we will require pictorial evidence :o

lesrae
06-28-09, 02:37 AM
You all have sick minds :O:

AVGWarhawk
06-28-09, 08:10 AM
You all have sick minds :O:

True, but we do not go spreading it around. :03:

Peto
06-28-09, 03:08 PM
Day 13 for me now. Cold turkey using the 5-minute technique (wait for 5 minutes and the urge to smoke passes. Repeat as required). It's getting easy already.

AVGWarhawk
06-28-09, 04:32 PM
Never heard of that one Peto:hmmm: 13 days:yeah: I'm doing ok after 5 weeks. Jim Buna is hanging tough as well. I miss them every now and then buuuuuuuuuutttttttt I like the extra cash I have every week. Both my wife and I quit so it is double the savings. I would pay for hers as well. Hey, wait a damn minute....she is going to have to pay that back some sort of way:hmmm: I can think of a few. Oh honey.........:D

Jimbuna
06-30-09, 05:05 AM
Day 13 for me now. Cold turkey using the 5-minute technique (wait for 5 minutes and the urge to smoke passes. Repeat as required). It's getting easy already.

The best o British :sunny:

Peto
07-01-09, 09:56 AM
Still going strong. My weight went up to 182 (up 2 pounds) since I quit though. Not too worried since I'm 6' 2" --a little more weight and I'm still svelte :haha:.

AVGWarhawk
07-01-09, 10:42 AM
I'm not sure it I gained any weight Peto. I have stated eating fruits and vegetables. My daughters are asking who I am and what I did with their dad.:haha: I started walking in the evenings as well. I might blow the dust off my mountain bike.

Keep going....it gets easier. I have noticed I get more done around the house. Sitting around smoking is now filled with fixing things around the ranch instead. :rock:

XabbaRus
07-01-09, 11:06 AM
I did have a horrible dream the other night.

I dreamed I had a cigarette and woke up with a start.

Not a nice feeling.

AVGWarhawk
07-01-09, 11:08 AM
I have had one dream I was smoking.

Onkel Neal
07-01-09, 01:18 PM
Man, you guys are awesome! :salute:

Have we got a list of the winners in this contest yet? I think some ping prizes are warranted :rock:

AVGWarhawk
07-01-09, 01:33 PM
I do not believe a formal list was created. There are a few here that are on the wagon but there is one ferret that seems to be absent. This ferret was the one who started it. :hmmm:



http://www.fileplanet.com/ferret/FerretForum.jpg

Jimbuna
07-01-09, 01:58 PM
He's too busy right now rummaging through some young ladies drawers :DL

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/pasquarade/watchoutpennytheferretsinyourdrawer.gif

AVGWarhawk
07-01-09, 02:05 PM
We found Dowly:

http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2009/2/unwired-ferret.jpg (http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2009/2/unwired_ferret.jpg)

FIREWALL
07-01-09, 02:07 PM
Dieing slowly from a lingering cold but, would have been alot worse if I was still smokeing. :yep:

Hang in there gang. :yeah:

Jimbuna
07-01-09, 02:20 PM
You hang in there....at least you wouldn't be able to taste what you were missing :hmmm:

:doh:

AVGWarhawk
07-10-09, 11:50 AM
Update Jim, I'm still going strong! You hanging tough?

Jimbuna
07-10-09, 02:00 PM
Update Jim, I'm still going strong! You hanging tough?


Still surviving Chris...pleased to hear of your continuing success :yeah:

AVGWarhawk
07-10-09, 02:05 PM
Good, your hanging in there. :yeah: Save what you spent on smokes and you could afford another trip back to Neal's ranch before you know it. Monetarily I really do notice more spendable cash as a result of stopping the smokes.

Jimbuna
07-10-09, 03:39 PM
The wife already has her shopping list made out :doh:

longam
07-10-09, 06:22 PM
I did have a horrible dream the other night.

I dreamed I had a cigarette and woke up with a start.

Not a nice feeling.

I still dreams of smoking on a regular basis.

I feel really bad that I am smoking again, and get depressed. When I wake I realize that I'm not smoking and thank God. It must be a reminder not too....

JHuschke
07-11-09, 08:07 PM
Hmm..I find dipping smokeless tobacco a good taste, for now...remember that it's no good alternative from cigarrettes.

Peto
07-13-09, 11:21 AM
One month and still smoke free. Amazingly--once I decided to quit--it was easy. Congrats to everyone else dissecting the monkey as well!!!

:yeah:

AVGWarhawk
07-13-09, 12:40 PM
Good to hear Peto. It certainly is a monkey on your back, in your wallet, in your cloting, in the house and in your way of healthy living. :03:

antikristuseke
07-13-09, 03:14 PM
Some truth for all smokers, now im off to enjoy me some cancer sticks
http://imgur.com/mDGNP.jpg

Jimbuna
07-13-09, 03:50 PM
@antikristuseke

Very succinct :o

http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/img134/3995/newshy222ul3cg8.gif

karamazovnew
07-17-09, 02:32 PM
Haha, didn't imagine a thread for smokers here. Good job and keep up the good work to all you quitters. I even changed my signature to help you forget about it. But please allow me this comment for all the undecided. I mean those that still smoke, don't have kids, or have yet to experience health problems. For the rest, please stop reading after the next paragraph. Really, I don't want to influence you.

Quiting smoking is very hard. My father hasn't managed to do it even tho he's been "trying" for 20 years. Recently there has been a huge campaign to stop smoking here in Romania. But it's been done so poorly and violently that I have a feeling that some tobacco companies were actually involved. That made me stop and think about it. About the money involved.

Smoking isn't all bad, it's been done for ages by all cultures (tobacco isn't the only herb you can burn btw) and all smokers agree that there are some times when smoking feels goooood. So what's wrong with it? I'll tell you. It's the cigars. Like all other mass produced things, they suck but they make you buy them at ever faster rates. I doubt they even contain real tobacco. Especially the ones made in Romania. God, the difference between an original Dunhill Red and the ones made here are :damn: :dead:. But all cigs share the same flaw. They come in 20 piece packs. You take one, you take another, the pack is almost empty, ****, you buy another one, endless cicle :doh:. And that old feeling of being filled up turns into a constant feeling of being emtpy inside. One day I just decided I wouldn't take it anymore.

Most quit at around this time and breaking any habit is a torture, but actually smoking kept me from going back to another way more distructive habit I had (don't ask). Don't get the wrong idea. Smoking didn't HELP me. It was stupid of me to start (it did feel amazing for the first times, I give yout that). But giving it up so soon after giving that other thing up was not an option for me. I couldn't go through something like that again. So I had to find an alternative. And the answer came in small bags of quality tobacco (just like tea, it's mixed variety), and home made cigs. In 2 weeks I went from 2 normal packs a day to just 3-4 cigs a day. Now I don't even count them. I don't have that "****... i need a cigar, quick, where's the pack?" routine anymore. I think "I feel good, I'll roll a cig up". Making one is half the fun and takes me a full 2 minutes. And the brand I'm using is amazing when combined with a cup of Creamy Rooibos tea (without sugar). Which takes 10 minutes to make. The taste is something you wouldn't believe, the house smells great and the slight lightness you feel lasts for about 2 hours. Coffee drinkers might compare this to recieving a bag of perfect brazilian coffee beans from your explorer friend. It's a special occasion every time. And I make it a special occasion every time, because I can't smoke them on the run, only when I take a conscient 15 minute break. For example after I finish work. Plus, one pack of cigs here is about 2 euros. One bag is about 20 euros, but I buy one a month. So I went from 120 euros a month to 20.... And at work, the smell of my smoker colleagues is enough to keep me from going back to normal cigs. There was no effort at all in all of it. I didn't even plan on reducing them. It just happened. And for example, last month they didn't have that brand at the store. So I didn't smoke for 2 weeks. I missed my small pleasure, but I didn't feel a NEED. I still drank the tea :haha:. Slept like a baby. I am a smoker, but a pleasure smoker :|\\.

kiwi_2005
07-21-09, 08:11 AM
Reasons why you should smoke!!!?...:D grabbed this from another thread, feel the sarcasm :)

Can boast "I out lived [insert name] and I've smoked all these years"
Don't need to worry about what to spend excess cash on (applies to lower income earners)
Can think your "cool whilst smoking" during younger periods of life
A natural ability to pocket someone elses lighter (by accident)
Relieves boredom
Gives an impression that it is relieving stress (although I think it raises potassium levels which does the reverse)
Increases the risk of Alzheimer's = Everyday is christmas (again)
Increases the risk of miscarriages and sterility in males = population control http://www.gpforums.co.nz/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif
Smoking decreases appetite and decreases weight by overexpressing the gene AZGP1 (whatever the hell that is)
Decreases the incidence of acne prophylactically

Smoking appears to interfere with development of Kaposi's sarcoma, breast cancer among women carrying the very high risk BRCA gene, preeclampsia, and atopic disorders such as allergic asthma. A plausible mechanism of action in these cases may be the nicotine in tobacco smoke acting as an anti-inflammatory agent and interfering with the disease process.

Heres' the kicker:
Incidence of impotence is approximately 85 percent higher in male smokers compared to non-smokers,and it is a key cause of erectile dysfunction. Which inturn saves wives from having to use the headache excuse :DL

Go forth and smoke.... suckers :03:

karamazovnew
07-25-09, 12:34 AM
Heres' the kicker:
Incidence of impotence is approximately 85 percent higher in male smokers compared to non-smokers,and it is a key cause of erectile dysfunction. Which inturn saves wives from having to use the headache excuse :DL

Go forth and smoke.... suckers :03:


Hmm, if you have an ugly fat and nymphomaniac wife, that last part is the best bonus :har:. On a side note, 1 week (i think) without a cig. I might actually give it up just for the sport :hmmm:.

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 08:02 AM
So, who is still going strong here without smoking? I'm still kicking it without the smokes! :D

Doing so well I went and got a new car with the savings of not spending on cigarettes.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/PIC_0065.jpg


So, it is not just only health benefits but also whatever you would like to buy with the savings.

XabbaRus
08-13-09, 09:36 AM
Still quit....doing well.

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 10:05 AM
:yeah: Good deal. My chest gets tight every now and then. Sometimes my throat does not feel right but that is slowly going away. It has been just over two months. Some say it takes some time for that feeling to go if you are experiencing it. Overall, I do feel much better, smell better and have more cash. :D

August
08-13-09, 10:24 AM
I'm about 10 days shy of 2 years since my last cigarette and I don't regret the decision at all.

Still get the urge to have one now and then though...

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 10:34 AM
I get that urge also August. It passes quickly though. Gum helps sometimes. I wonder if some get over it entirely. I feel I'm not one of those that completely forget about it. I hope I do. Good for you on the close to two years:yeah:

Jimbuna
08-13-09, 10:57 AM
Happy to report I'm still in the throng.....even got rid of the lone ash tray in the house :smug:

August
08-13-09, 11:07 AM
I get that urge also August. It passes quickly though. Gum helps sometimes. I wonder if some get over it entirely. I feel I'm not one of those that completely forget about it. I hope I do. Good for you on the close to two years:yeah:

Thanks AVG.

Speaking of gum, I have chewed so much Wrigley "5" gum that the wife has made several 10ft chains out of the colored wrappers which we plan to decorate the Christmas tree with.

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 11:44 AM
That is what I'm chewing now :har:. Still, smells better and cost less:yeah:

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 11:46 AM
Happy to report I'm still in the throng.....even got rid of the lone ash tray in the house :smug:


:yeah: I guess ours are gone also. :hmmm: At least one is around for my folks when they pay a visit.

Good for you Jim!

Jimbuna
08-13-09, 11:52 AM
Hasn't helped my drinking habit though :DL

AVGWarhawk
08-13-09, 12:07 PM
Everyone needs something! I was not much of a drinker though.:hmmm: I can say it has not slowed my spending down. :shifty:

Jimbuna
08-13-09, 01:35 PM
It's always a good idea to spend it before the little woman finds where it's stashed :DL

August
08-13-09, 09:16 PM
I just bought my wife a garage door opener for $240.00. The equivalent of about 35 packs of Marlboros at todays local prices. Now we have matching Genies (ain't love grand?) and i'm not hacking up lung biscuits all the time.

Win freaking win. :yeah:

FIREWALL
08-13-09, 09:45 PM
Thanks AVG.

Speaking of gum, I have chewed so much Wrigley "5" gum that the wife has made several 10ft chains out of the colored wrappers which we plan to decorate the Christmas tree with.

That is one heck of a good idea August. :up:

TheBrauerHour
08-13-09, 10:01 PM
I quit in 2001 when I got out of the Army. I still, in times of stress, feel the need for one.

But, I will say that I feel alot better and would never consider actually trying that out again.