Quitting smoking (HONEST!!)

[McBeck]

Congrats fellas!

[krashkart]

Before you attempt it make sure you change your habits for a month or so prior, with me I automatically lit up every time I had a coffee, so I had to make sure I didn't have one with a coffee, this was actually harder to do than quitting the smokes!!:oops: Once done I then purchased patches, took my last cigarette at night, threw the packets out went to bed, in the morning applied the patch, remember that during the night you don't smoke so don't wear the patch then!!:yep: That was 15 years ago, and I had a dozen or so attempts before, I can honestly say that it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be!!:up:

Thanks for that advice, Reece. :up:

[Kaleun Cook]

I joined this earlier but didn't want to post before I had managed some time without smoking - it's now day 40. ;)

I used to be quite a passionate smoker with maybe 30-40 filters or hand-rolled per day for about 15 years. I finally quit due to health issues that were either caused entirely or were at least heavily exacerbated by smoking.

First I just tried to reduce the number of cigarettes per day. That didn't work well though, I would soon start to light the next one quicker than I had planned.

Then someday I tried not to smoke at all cold turkey. That at first didn't seem to work either: After some hours I smoked again. BUT: I had managed not to smoke for just enough time to really feel the cigarette "kick in": After the first drag I immediately felt this kind of dizziness take over my brain, a bit later my warm hands felt as cold as they used to when I was smoking regularly. As a heavy smoker I never felt these effects - so I realized that I must have kept my brain in that dizzy state constantly for it not to notice such changes when smoking. This "revelation" really helped me to overcome the tough first days.

Beside that, sports helped me, too. I don't like jogging that much, I went cycling instead, at least 20 kilometers a day.

[frau kaleun]

I joined this earlier but didn't want to post before I had managed some time without smoking - it's now day 40. ;)

Congratulations, man. That is awesome. :woot:

I am still struggling with it. I have cut back a lot but not kicked it completely.

[Kaleun Cook]

Congratulations, man. That is awesome. :woot:

I am still struggling with it. I have cut back a lot but not kicked it completely.

Thanks! :DL

So the gum didn't work for you?

[frau kaleun]

Oh yeah, it will calm the nicotine craving. It's the other aspects of the "habit" that it doesn't satisfy. You don't realize how lighting up a cigarette becomes such an integral part of certain daily routines until you try to do those same things without one. Parts of the routine have actually been *built* around lighting up and when that option isn't there, it throws everything off, at least for me. That's more a mental aspect than anything else and the part that for me is proving hardest to overcome.

[Jimbuna]

I joined this earlier but didn't want to post before I had managed some time without smoking - it's now day 40. ;)

I used to be quite a passionate smoker with maybe 30-40 filters or hand-rolled per day for about 15 years. I finally quit due to health issues that were either caused entirely or were at least heavily exacerbated by smoking.

First I just tried to reduce the number of cigarettes per day. That didn't work well though, I would soon start to light the next one quicker than I had planned.

Then someday I tried not to smoke at all cold turkey. That at first didn't seem to work either: After some hours I smoked again. BUT: I had managed not to smoke for just enough time to really feel the cigarette "kick in": After the first drag I immediately felt this kind of dizziness take over my brain, a bit later my warm hands felt as cold as they used to when I was smoking regularly. As a heavy smoker I never felt these effects - so I realized that I must have kept my brain in that dizzy state constantly for it not to notice such changes when smoking. This "revelation" really helped me to overcome the tough first days.

Beside that, sports helped me, too. I don't like jogging that much, I went cycling instead, at least 20 kilometers a day.

I smoked a similar amount for almost 40 years and have been clear now for about 3 years....keep it up and good luck.

[Kaleun Cook]

Oh yeah, it will calm the nicotine craving. It's the other aspects of the "habit" that it doesn't satisfy. You don't realize how lighting up a cigarette becomes such an integral part of certain daily routines until you try to do those same things without one. Parts of the routine have actually been *built* around lighting up and when that option isn't there, it throws everything off, at least for me. That's more a mental aspect than anything else and the part that for me is proving hardest to overcome.

I absolutely know what you mean. When we moved in our current home we agreed to only smoke on the balcony. While I went outside for a smoke I usually took something to read outside with me, a newspaper or a book. In the first phase I tried to trick myself: I went outside to read something and suck on a peppermint or something to "simulate" the time I would have spent there while having a smoke. :88)

I smoked a similar amount for almost 40 years and have been clear now for about 3 years....keep it up and good luck.

Thanks man, a good example to follow! :up:

[Flick]

Was going to post this last week but better late than never I guess.

It is now Three Months and One Week since my LAST cigarette.

That is all.

:up:

Congrats BH it's now over 3 years for me. :)

[Jimbuna]

I absolutely know what you mean. When we moved in our current home we agreed to only smoke on the balcony. While I went outside for a smoke I usually took something to read outside with me, a newspaper or a book. In the first phase I tried to trick myself: I went outside to read something and suck on a peppermint or something to "simulate" the time I would have spent there while having a smoke. :88)



Thanks man, a good example to follow! :up:

Thank you and good luck with your efforts :sunny:

[Reece]

I joined this earlier but didn't want to post before I had managed some time without smoking - it's now day 40. ;)

I used to be quite a passionate smoker with maybe 30-40 filters or hand-rolled per day for about 15 years. I finally quit due to health issues that were either caused entirely or were at least heavily exacerbated by smoking.

First I just tried to reduce the number of cigarettes per day. That didn't work well though, I would soon start to light the next one quicker than I had planned.

Then someday I tried not to smoke at all cold turkey. That at first didn't seem to work either: After some hours I smoked again. BUT: I had managed not to smoke for just enough time to really feel the cigarette "kick in": After the first drag I immediately felt this kind of dizziness take over my brain, a bit later my warm hands felt as cold as they used to when I was smoking regularly. As a heavy smoker I never felt these effects - so I realized that I must have kept my brain in that dizzy state constantly for it not to notice such changes when smoking. This "revelation" really helped me to overcome the tough first days.

Similar to my experience, congratulations on reaching 40 days, it progressively get easier as time passes so hang in there, after a couple of years you really notice how much better life is, I will never go back now!!:up:

[Growler]

Similar to my experience, congratulations on reaching 40 days, it progressively get easier as time passes so hang in there, after a couple of years you really notice how much better life is, I will never go back now!!:up:

Brother, ain't that the truth!

Been about 18 months for me, and aside from dealing with a bit of weight gain, I've not felt this good in twenty-some years... coincidentally, the time period during which I smoked... hmm...

[Jimbuna]

Brother, ain't that the truth!

Been about 18 months for me, and aside from dealing with a bit of weight gain, I've not felt this good in twenty-some years... coincidentally, the time period during which I smoked... hmm...

Keep it up...tis well worth it as I'm sure your aware :yeah:

[XabbaRus]

I fell off the wagon in Hartlepool with the stress of the job :(

[Growler]

Keep it up...tis well worth it as I'm sure your aware :yeah:

Aye, sir, well enough aware indeed! The money I once dropped on a pack of smokes (about one every two days) is much better served putting beer in the fridge, gas in the car to get beer for the fridge, lunch on the table with a beer from the fridge, grass seed on the lawn after a beer from the fridge, clean clothes on the line... whew, after all this, I need a beer from the fridge!








Too bad I'm still at work.

[Growler]

I fell off the wagon in Hartlepool with the stress of the job :(

No worries, mate. Hop back on; we'll wait for ya. :up:

[Jimbuna]

Aye, sir, well enough aware indeed! The money I once dropped on a pack of smokes (about one every two days) is much better served putting beer in the fridge, gas in the car to get beer for the fridge, lunch on the table with a beer from the fridge, grass seed on the lawn after a beer from the fridge, clean clothes on the line... whew, after all this, I need a beer from the fridge!








Too bad I'm still at work.

Precisely :yep:

[krashkart]

Well, here goes. The start of Day 1 and I'm most of the way through my first lozenge. I'll post back in three weeks. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Good luck :sunny:

[frau kaleun]

I am giving it another go this week as well, since there will be absolutely no smoking in the new car. Wish me luck.

[Jimbuna]

You'll be fine...just don't go carrying a packet around with you for 'just in case' purposes.

[danny60]

My dad tried to stop smoking, but without sucess. So, after much consideration i decided to do something about it. I "borrowed" £100 of his money that he used to leave round the house, then when he was watching, threw the whole in a shredder. Neadless to say the demonstration of what he was doing with his money got the point across, and hes not touched one since... and that was 4 years ago.

[Jimbuna]

My dad tried to stop smoking, but without sucess. So, after much consideration i decided to do something about it. I "borrowed" £100 of his money that he used to leave round the house, then when he was watching, threw the whole in a shredder. Neadless to say the demonstration of what he was doing with his money got the point across, and hes not touched one since... and that was 4 years ago.

I'd be giving praise to someone up above you never ended up in that shredder after it.

Good idea though :DL

[Reece]

I am giving it another go this week as well, since there will be absolutely no smoking in the new car. Wish me luck.
I certainly do FK, yes it's a little torture for awhile but the rewards are well worth the effort, give up before bed then patch first thing in morning, but take off before bed.:salute:
Good luck!:up:

[Gerald]

I certainly do FK, yes it's a little torture for awhile but the rewards are well worth the effort, give up before bed then patch first thing in morning, but take off before bed.:salute:
Good luck!:up: Reece,were not you smoking in the past ... but ended :hmmm:

[Reece]

Reece,were not you smoking in the past ... but ended :hmmm:
I gave up around 15 years ago!:yep:

[Gerald]

I gave up around 15 years ago!:yep: Good,:DL did you think it was hard, for your wife smokes well, nor.

[Jimbuna]

I gave up around 15 years ago!:yep:

Similar to sex then :DL

[Reece]

Similar to sex then :DLNo! close though!:oops:

Good,:DL did you think it was hard, for your wife smokes well, nor.
I had tried many times without success but when the doctor told me I was close to getting COPD the decision was easy!:yep: No my wife never smoked, our kids don't smoke either!:up:

[Gerald]

No! close though!:oops:


I had tried many times without success but when the doctor told me I was close to getting COPD the decision was easy!:yep: No my wife never smoked, our kids don't smoke either!:up: Good.I don't smoke either :up:

[Jimbuna]

No! close though!:oops:


I had tried many times without success but when the doctor told me I was close to getting COPD the decision was easy!:yep: No my wife never smoked, our kids don't smoke either!:up:

Other than the 'COPD' part we are more or less identical...I started to struggle to keep up with the forces requirements for physical agility, I soon realised there was more to the job than knocking someone to the ground :DL

[Reece]

Other than the 'COPD' part we are more or less identical...I started to struggle to keep up with the forces requirements for physical agility, I soon realised there was more to the job than knocking someone to the ground :DLYes, now you can do it and enjoy it!:up:

Jim (middle) having some fun:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wpSIKdJG89k/SdyQiJ5jvoI/AAAAAAAAAlc/4QXh-_CEh4c/s400/rioting-police-medic.jpg

[Gerald]

Yes sitting in the pub, requires arm strength is also :smug:

[frau kaleun]

I think in order for this to work for me, I need to start thinking of it as a competition: who breaks first, me or Krashkart. :O:

I will not be beaten! The honor of Asgard is at stake!










oh god I want a cig so bad :wah:

[Gerald]

I think in order for this to work for me, I need to start thinking of it as a competition: who breaks first, me or Krashkart. :O:

I will not be beaten! The honor of Asgard is at stake!










oh god I want a cig so bad :wah: Of course, other services provided on request, :O:

[frau kaleun]

Of course, other services provided on request, :O:

Great! My dishes need washing. Also there's laundry to put away. :D

[krashkart]

I think in order for this to work for me, I need to start thinking of it as a competition: who breaks first, me or Krashkart. :O:

I will not be beaten! The honor of Asgard is at stake!










oh god I want a cig so bad :wah:

If it will help you then you're on, sister. ;)

[Gerald]

Great! My dishes need washing. Also there's laundry to put away. :D But the dishes and the laundry, do you you do not have to think of the man below, see the positive everything will be fine, you should see....

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5505/marlboror.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/marlboror.jpg/)

:D

[krashkart]

That is so cruel. :har:


Even I wouldn't have thought to do that. Could it be that I have met my match? Could it be that... the Swedes are more devious than I? It couldn't be possible... :hmmm:

[frau kaleun]

For those of you following along at home, this is where we stand so far:

Krashkart: helping. :salute:

Vendor: NOT HELPING. :stare:


:O:

[Gerald]

For those of you following along at home, this is where we stand so far:

Krashkart: helping. :salute:

Vendor: NOT HELPING. :stare:


:O: Of course, I'm public servant ... and pulls well up on the "crises" :cool:

[Reece]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VgTDODu74hk/TVtT9V2IX5I/AAAAAAAAACE/lp0Hh-NLdTY/s1600/snort.png
Reece not helping much either!!

[Jimbuna]

Yes, now you can do it and enjoy it!:up:

Jim (middle) having some fun:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wpSIKdJG89k/SdyQiJ5jvoI/AAAAAAAAAlc/4QXh-_CEh4c/s400/rioting-police-medic.jpg

Ah.....memories :DL

For those of you following along at home, this is where we stand so far:

Krashkart: helping. :salute:

Vendor: NOT HELPING. :stare:


:O:


LOL

Oh look....and in one post too :O:

[Gerald]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VgTDODu74hk/TVtT9V2IX5I/AAAAAAAAACE/lp0Hh-NLdTY/s1600/snort.png
Reece not helping much either!! :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

For those of you following along at home, this is where we stand so far:

Krashkart: helping. :salute:

Vendor: NOT HELPING. :stare:


:O:

State of mind to quit is all one needs. I still recommend this book that was recommended by McBeck. This book helped my wife and I quit. For the cost to purchase from Amazon...it is worth every penny. (order through SS :DL)

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Non-Smokers/dp/1402718616

Over two years in the non-smoker category. It feels great. It feels even better when you finally have control over the ball and chain of cigarettes.

Buy the book. Free yourself of the physical and financial burden of cigarettes.

[Jimbuna]

State of mind to quit is all one needs. I still recommend this book that was recommended by McBeck. This book helped my wife and I quit. For the cost to purchase from Amazon...it is worth every penny. (order through SS :DL)

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Non-Smokers/dp/1402718616

Over two years in the non-smoker category. It feels great. It feels even better when you finally have control over the ball and chain of cigarettes.

Buy the book. Free yourself of the physical and financial burden of cigarettes.

Ditto :sunny:

[Obltn Strand]

Newest addition to those kaleuns who don't foul up a convoy attack beacuse of a cigarette glow. One and half week without cigarettes and finally I'm feeling better:yeah:

Smoked 17 years, pretty much half of my life, some 1 pack a day.

[AVGWarhawk]

Good show sir! You will feel better physically and mentally because you conquered nicotine! :yeah:

[u crank]

Way to go. Good luck and stay strong!

[vienna]

Gave up a two pack a day habit many years ago, cold turkey. I came to realise that smoking is quite literally a habit. Think about the times you "automatically" smoke: get a cup of coffee, light a cigarette; start to talk on the phone, light a cigarette; finish a meal, light a cigarette; have a drink, light a cigarette, and so on. By becoming more aware of the interactions caused by habit, it is easier to break the cycles. It is sort of like asking yourself "Why am I really doing this?" and realising there is no real good or logical reason. I hope this helps... :DL

[Jimbuna]

Good habit to kick http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Obltn Strand]

Thanks for support dudes.

I probaply extend my life for 5 to 10 years.

Best of all I will save the price of one cigarette pack daily. That's 5.40 euros here in taxman's paradise a.k.a Finland. It buys me a long trip away from the freeze.

Gave up a two pack a day habit many years ago, cold turkey. I came to realise that smoking is quite literally a habit. Think about the times you "automatically" smoke: get a cup of coffee, light a cigarette; start to talk on the phone, light a cigarette; finish a meal, light a cigarette; have a drink, light a cigarette, and so on. By becoming more aware of the interactions caused by habit, it is easier to break the cycles. It is sort of like asking yourself "Why am I really doing this?" and realising there is no real good or logical reason. I hope this helps... :DL

I had similar thoughts. My brain still gives these latent messages after for example dinner that it's time to smoke.

Well I according to people already quitted, I have couple weeks of hell ahead:dead:

[Jimbuna]

Thanks for support dudes.

I probaply extend my life for 5 to 10 years.

Best of all I will save the price of one cigarette pack daily. That's 5.40 euros here in taxman's paradise a.k.a Finland. It buys me a long trip away from the freeze.

Still cheaper than the cost of a pack here in the UK :yep:

[Obltn Strand]

Still cheaper than the cost of a pack here in the UK :yep:
I thought only Switzerland and Norway would beat our price. Well doesn't matter anymore.

[Falkirion]

Obltn once it hits around 2-3 weeks the cravings get really bad, push through that though and after a week or two more they'll start getting less and less.

[Kaleun Cook]

Unfortunately, my attempt a while ago eventually failed.

After about 3 months and some stressful days at work that stupid thought that one can't harm brought me down. But while I quickly was smoking the same amount as I did before, I kept doing the sports I started with when I first gave up. This way, I could feel the quick "drain" of the condition - and I've had enough of it.

So I'll have my (second) last one in a minute, wake up tomorrow and do a 3-miles-run first thing in the morning into those crazy first withdrawal days. :doh:

[August]

I'm going on 5 years since my last cigarette after a 36 year pack a day habit. If I had to give one piece of advice to those just starting to quit it would be this:

Don't give up giving up. If you slip up a little don't declare failure and go back to smoking full time. Get right back on the wagon and keep fighting the good fight.

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm going on 5 years since my last cigarette after a 36 year pack a day habit. If I had to give one piece of advice to those just starting to quit it would be this:

Don't give up giving up. If you slip up a little don't declare failure and go back to smoking full time. Get right back on the wagon and keep fighting the good fight.

That's fantastic advice. It's your health on the line, and that's worth more than just a one-try deal. Keep it up everybody, we're pulling for you!

[Jimbuna]

I thought only Switzerland and Norway would beat our price. Well doesn't matter anymore.

Not far off 7 Euros a pack of 20 atm but as you say it doesn't matter anymore...good luck in quitting :salute:

[Obltn Strand]

Newest addition to those kaleuns who don't foul up a convoy attack beacuse of a cigarette glow. One and half week without cigarettes and finally I'm feeling better:yeah:

Smoked 17 years, pretty much half of my life, some 1 pack a day.

:up: Two years now, smoke free.

[Hjalfnar]

I'm down to almost half a pack per month. And these I even don't smoke for real...just holding them in the hand slowly burning down.^^ But the amount of chewing gum I'm consuming now is rising higher and higher. :haha:

Must stop completely now, because I got a nicotin allergy...after 9 years of smoking.

[Kaleun Cook]

It's been ages since I posted in this thread, just got an email notification after your post.

Since my enthusiastic post here I kept failing time and time again. While I am getting older and certainly notice the health drawbacks of this addiction, stressful circumstances made me go back so many times. The most stupid part is that by now I begin to notice the positive effects on the body after quitting even after one day - still I eventually fail.

I'm considering a "frontal assault" now: I'll have to move soon. If I manage to stay clean during those days, I'm hopefully prepared to deal with other stressful situations as well.

[Armistead]

My father is dying from COPD. He was just in ICU for 3 weeks, then to rehab, but he signed out the first day so he could smoke. Dr's give him less than 6 months so he is at home with hospice....still smoking.

[AVGWarhawk]

It's been ages since I posted in this thread, just got an email notification after your post.

Since my enthusiastic post here I kept failing time and time again. While I am getting older and certainly notice the health drawbacks of this addiction, stressful circumstances made me go back so many times. The most stupid part is that by now I begin to notice the positive effects on the body after quitting even after one day - still I eventually fail.

I'm considering a "frontal assault" now: I'll have to move soon. If I manage to stay clean during those days, I'm hopefully prepared to deal with other stressful situations as well.

Read the book McBeck suggested. It worked for me and my wife. Allen Carr, Stop Smoking the Easy Way. The book re-engineered our mind and what cigarettes really are. We have been smoke free for 3 plus years now.

[Jimbuna]

Read the book McBeck suggested. It worked for me and my wife. Allen Carr, Stop Smoking the Easy Way. The book re-engineered our mind and what cigarettes really are. We have been smoke free for 3 plus years now.

I thought it longer than that Chris, me being about six months behind you :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

I thought it longer than that Chris, me being about six months behind you :hmmm:

It might be. I would have to consult our calender. My wife marks significant dates on it each year. Our stop smoking would be one of them.

[Wolferz]

Stay busy. It's the habit of going through the motions of smoking that is the hardest to break.
I quit for ten weeks while going through basic training. After the first week it wasn't so bad as long as I didn't smell someone else puffing. The drills and instructors weren't allowed to smoke in our vicinity. But, once I hit A-school and got off post...:doh: My habit was still extremely curtailed but I just couldn't stop altogether. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin. I wish you luck.:up:

You could always try some of those smokeless cigarettes. They make them with gradually decreasing charges of nicotine and they taste like crap so they might improve your odds for success.

There was a television program some years back where a man hired a smoking cessation company to help him quit. The company had goombahs watching him constantly. When he got caught lighting up they took his wife and tortured her. When he got caught a second time they started removing fingers from his wife. He finally succeeded in quitting. But then came the inevitable weight gain, so they helped him with that too.:huh:

[Kaleun Cook]

Read the book McBeck suggested. It worked for me and my wife. Allen Carr, Stop Smoking the Easy Way. The book re-engineered our mind and what cigarettes really are. We have been smoke free for 3 plus years now.

Thanks for the advice and congratulations on those three years!

Unfortunately, those kind of books didn't work for me so far. I find it amazing that they help a lot of people to quit rather easily though.

[Jimbuna]

It might be. I would have to consult our calender. My wife marks significant dates on it each year. Our stop smoking would be one of them.

Having never smoked, the wife wouldn't have it on the calendar list of important dates...unlike her birthday :)

[STEED]

Having never smoked

You missed out on a fine cigar jim. :03:

I used to smoke 10 small ones or 2 or 3 big ones a week then I just gave up. Not on the grounds of health just gave up like that and never had any withdraw symptoms.

[August]

Chantix worked for me. I broke a 36 year long pack a day habit in just a month and have been tobacco free since 2007.

[Armistead]

I quit about two years ago after my mother died. She hadn't smoked for 12 years, died from pulmonary fib., but the smoking didn't help. I had a good friend die of lung cancer at 51.....I still miss them, but have no plans to ever pick them up, more so after watching my father suffer the last two years and headed for the grave soon.

[AVGWarhawk]

Thanks for the advice and congratulations on those three years!

Unfortunately, those kind of books didn't work for me so far. I find it amazing that they help a lot of people to quit rather easily though.


I would suggest it. I purchased it for $9. Amazon. It is worth a try. It worked for me and my wife. We never looked back.

[gordonmull]

4 months off them, e-cig route after all NRT failed over a number of years. Down to 3mg liquid now. Never going back. I was on 30 a day before one evening I couldn't be bothered to go to the shop to get fag papers and used this little life saver instead.

Big thumbs up to everyone else that's struggling to get through this horrible addiction.

I could slap my 17yo face senseless. Nearly 20 years a smoker thanks to that stupid little **** back then that thought that addiction could never happen to me.

Keep at it :salute:

[Jimbuna]

You missed out on a fine cigar jim. :03:

I used to smoke 10 small ones or 2 or 3 big ones a week then I just gave up. Not on the grounds of health just gave up like that and never had any withdraw symptoms.

I was referring to the wife ya daft bugga :doh:

[Obltn Strand]

I quit cold turkey and suffered immensely for three months. I became short tempered and aggressive. Luckily da goverment suppots quitting and it was easy to get absence from work. There is grand vision that Finland will be smoking free country by 2030; remains to be seen:hmm2:

Still have a weight problem btw. An extra 10kg to hinder diving.

On positive side I feel more energetic and active, my skin looks better, I generally smell better, flu and hangover goes by much easier and girls say my mojo is improved.

Two years without smoking earns me a subsim guit smoking U-boat badge:03:

[L.T]

closing in on 10 months without the lungtorpedoes.

I used champix smoke stop pills took me 21 days on them to stop. After that its just mental.

I have gained some weight aprox 12 kg and it realy sux, but atleast im out of the morning cough and the smell. Any other new non smoker experience this totaly insane fobia against the smell of smokers. I have no problem with smokers, let them smoke to there grave, but the smell....it simply gets to me now and i cant understand why my family have been able to live with me...well it might just be me :)

Im planning of being an ex smoker for the rest of my days, not a fanatical one, just another one :)

[guntherprien]

Watching my Dad in the last stages of small cell lung cancer cured my 25yr + habit of smoking everything from bongs,pipes,buckets,spliffs,sticks etc in a moment.
I still crave,but seeing what looked like giblets in his colostomy bag made me realise smoking is for mugs.
Unfortunately I need the same cure to stop my excessive boozing.
Any ideas ?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Unfortunately I need the same cure to stop my excessive boozing.
Any ideas ?

If you go to a bar regularly, cut down on the amount of visits - find some other hobby to occupy that time or invite friends and family round for a proper sit-at-the-table meal and an argument-causing game like Monopoly. Tell them the reason so they don't bring their own temptations.

If you drink at home then only buy half as much as you normally would for a day, a week, etc., and try your best not to top-up your stash. If you drink watching a particular telly program then record it, go to bed early and wake early - watch it then.

Of course these things are easy to say and not so easy to stick to, but it's a start.

I'm sure someone will be alone with more sage advice soon. :up:

[Ducimus]

I used to smoke. I also used to dip snuff and chew tobacco too.

My nicotine habits started with a can of skoal. (That's dip for the uninitiated). Later on, i would occasionally chew Tobacco. My first pouch being Redman. For the most part i dipped snuff though, chewing tobacco (not to be confused with dip) would make you "juice" too much. My brand started with Skoal, then later Kodiak, and some occasional Copenhagen. (Or as some of my buds who also dipped snuff would call it, "Cough n gaggin") When I did chew tobacco, it was Redman or Beechnut, but preferred Beechnut.

After i started dipping though, I soon began underage drinking, which considering where i was at the time, was very normal. After i started drinking copious amounts of beer, i started bumming smokes off my friends. Usually Marboro Lights. Soon after, i stopped bumming and started buying my own. At one point, on a friday night, one would find me with a beer in one hand, a marboro light in the other, and a pinch of skoal or kodiak in my jaw somewhere. First id' spit out the tobacco juice so i could drink my beer. Then i'd chase the beer with a drag on a coffin nail. When I went oversea's this increased, and would easily smoke an entire pack of cigarettes an evening. Often "jumps tarting" my next smoke, with one i currently had in my mouth and was nearly finished with. I would spend the following morning coughing up tar. (Gotta love those Eighty Eight's)

I did smokeless tobacco for nearly 5 years. I smoked for at least two years. I didn't smoke longer because it was as i call it, an "associated habit" that was tied with beer. At one point, i cut back on my drinking, when that happened i cut back on my smoking. Beer and smokes went hand in hand, and it took me awhile to break the two apart. Quiting smoking was easy though, because i got more nicotine from smokeless tobacco. What eventually got me off of dip, was having a gum graph at an Air Force hospital. Receeding gum lines and all that, were exposing the roots of my upper teeth where i apparently liked to keep my wad of dip the most. Having that procedure done was enough to scare me off of it. Haven't touched it since.

In my later years (late 20's, early 30's maybe), I have had an occasional smoke, but it is something I can no longer do. Everytime I had just one smoke for old times sake, I would end up with a hacking chest cold. Presumably my body's way in telling me that some things are not under the purview of nostalgia. I can't remember when i last had a smoke, but i can smell marboro's a mile away.

[gordonmull]

Unfortunately I need the same cure to stop my excessive boozing.

Me too, my boozing has increased by about a third since i stopped fags. Since I wasn't actually a light drinker beforehand it's not too good, but i say to myself "One thing at a time". If I try to do it all at once I'll be soon back with a fag in one hand and and a drink in the other.

Since I've quit tobacco I've been suffering from insomnia and I just get drunk to beat it. It's maybe a bit of a stupid thing to do but it works. I think I just need to learn to sleep again without carbon monoxide in my blood.

First nicotine, then booze and then I'll get fit and learn to run cross country again like I used to in my teens. Seriously!

[Jimbuna]

Best cure for the booze....PM me and I'll send you the forwarding address to send it too :salute:

[McBeck]

I stopped smoking years ago, but still enjoy Cuban cigars on special occasions.

Please read up on the e-cigarettes as they can be rather dangerous.
Patches etc, should also be considered last resort, as you are substituing one addiction with another. The whole idea of using patches and gum to get off the habit is a pure marketing sale.

If possible, get to the root of the addiction - and I can tell you right up front, that its NOT physical - its mental.

[August]

Cigarettes cause heart disease and cancer, E-Cigarettes just cause heart disease. Not much of an improvement in my book.

[XabbaRus]

Well I quit in 2009. Then in the middle of 2011 after changing jobs and being sent away to work on a ****ty refurb of a rig I started again. Well I quit again December last year. Cold turkey. The reason being I'd signed up to a 180 mile 2 day cycle. So need to get fit and no way could I do that and smoke. Feels awesome and haven't put on weight. It's tough but doable.

[gordonmull]

Best cure for the booze....PM me and I'll send you the forwarding address to send it too :salute:OK I'll sign up for that one...just as soon as I've had another can :O:


Please read up on the e-cigarettes as they can be rather dangerous.
Patches etc, should also be considered last resort, as you are substituing one addiction with another. The whole idea of using patches and gum to get off the habit is a pure marketing sale.

If possible, get to the root of the addiction - and I can tell you right up front, that its NOT physical - its mental.I've done quite a bit of reading on e-cigs and have chemicals risk assessment experience. In my opinion of the known facts and in light of what studies have been done I cannot see why they are rather dangerous. More dangerous than using nothing but far, far less dangerous than tobacco.

Habit vs. physical addiction - frankly it depends on the person. Since you still enjoy the odd cigar you're obviously not as dependent as me. Once I stop nicotine I can't do that because I'd be straight back on the fags and I've proven that to myself over and over: "just one" becomes just 30. This is my ninth attempt, so I've got a bit of experience. We are all different.

Cigarettes cause heart disease and cancer, E-Cigarettes just cause heart disease.I'd be very interested to see a source for this. In none of my research have I found any link to heart disease from e-cigs. In fact, Dr Farsalinos, who could probably be considered the leading independent expert on e-cigs, is a heart specialist and has not indicated this.

Facts about e-cigs:
Ingredient 1: Vegetable glycerine (VG), already used in medical inhalers. Not dangerous.
Ingredient 2: Propylene glycol (PG), already used in smoke machines, medical inhalers. Not dangerous.
Ingredient 3: Nicotine dilution in VG or PG, in tobacco already, barely harmful at the concentrations used.
Ingredient 4: Flavouring. There's an unknown on what effect it will have. I use menthol, that age old cold remedy that the doc tells you to put in boiling water and inhale. If buying from a reputable supplier the flavouring will at least be food grade.

My point with e-cigs would be that placing a KNOWN cancer risk with over 2000 different chemicals, doing god knows what in synergy, against a handful of chemicals, most of which are known to be safe, where would you put your bets? Ideally on neither but it isn't an ideal world.

I hope that didn't come over a a bit ranty, just presenting what I know and hopefully getting to learn from others :up:

[August]

In none of my research have I found any link to heart disease from e-cigs. In fact, Dr Farsalinos, who could probably be considered the leading independent expert on e-cigs, is a heart specialist and has not indicated this.

Well that's surprising since nicotine, the essential ingredient in E-cigs is well known to cause cardiovascular disease.

How Does Smoking Increase Heart Disease Risk? The nicotine present in smoke causes heart disease by:


Decreasing oxygen to the heart.
Increasing blood pressure and heart rate.
Increasing blood clotting.
Damaging to cells that line coronary arteries and other blood vessels.

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/quit-smoking-heart

Just because you change the delivery method doesn't ameliorate the risk of using the substance. E-sigs might be better than regular cigarettes but that doesn't make them harmless.

[krashkart]

Today I let my stash of cigarettes run out and I switched over to nicotine lozenges. I'll drop by this thread every day to post a progress report about my attempt to quit. I think that by making this part of my daily routine it will be easier to stay on track, maybe even give me a sense of accountability (after all, I made the promise to myself -- not a spouse/partner who will hold me to it).

[Jimbuna]

Good luck matey :sunny:

[August]

What did it for me, besides the Chantix, is looking at a cigarette in my hand and knowing with my heart that it would be the last one I ever smoked.

Every failed attempt before that never had such a feeling of finality.

[AVGWarhawk]

Today I let my stash of cigarettes run out and I switched over to nicotine lozenges. I'll drop by this thread every day to post a progress report about my attempt to quit. I think that by making this part of my daily routine it will be easier to stay on track, maybe even give me a sense of accountability (after all, I made the promise to myself -- not a spouse/partner who will hold me to it).

Good luck sir! Be free of them. I can amass a list of things positive that occurred after I stopped smoking for good.

[gordonmull]

Well that's surprising since nicotine, the essential ingredient in E-cigs is well known to cause cardiovascular disease.
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http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/quit-smoking-heart

Just because you change the delivery method doesn't ameliorate the risk of using the substance. E-sigs might be better than regular cigarettes but that doesn't make them harmless.

Evidence please? I've given you a heart specialist's name who is doing and has done a number of peer reviewed studies into the effects of e-cigs that are published in professional journals. His work is easily found and read. You've supplied WebMD. Ask your GP's opinion of WebMD, he will probably do something like this: :damn: That is to say, I don't consider it evidence :down:

An independent researcher like Farsalinos, with no ties to tobacco or e-cig industries vs. the "sponsored" media or state? I know where my bets lie.

Above all, completely harmless or not, sheer common sense says e-cigs are better than fags. Used to cough myself sick in the morning, now don't. Shifted a load of tar out of my lungs the last couple of months. Always, always no nicotine is better than some but remember that some of us aren't so good at giving it up as others. Don't leave us to poison ourselves on a proven, horrible method.

Edit - for any other vapers out there: I'm down to 3MG now and will be going no-nic next month! :) Slavery over!

[Armistead]

My father is in the last stages of COPD. He now gets so little oxygen to his brain he really doesn't know who he is or where he is most the time. Constantly talking to past dead friends as if they're in the room.

Hospice nurse told me OK to cut all his numerous meds for blood pressure, heart, several other issues and now were mass doping him with morphine, sleeping pills... the death cocktail....

Amazing thing he never really goes to bed, he lies down, gets up and will sleep on his feet muttering until he either falls or sits down.

[gordonmull]

That's pretty sobering Armistead. Despite how we individually approach our way out of this horrible addiction, we should always remember realities like this. I will keep your father's experience in mind when I'm tempted.

NEVER AGAIN. :stare:

[Jimbuna]

My father is in the last stages of COPD. He now gets so little oxygen to his brain he really doesn't know who he is or where he is most the time. Constantly talking to past dead friends as if they're in the room.

Hospice nurse told me OK to cut all his numerous meds for blood pressure, heart, several other issues and now were mass doping him with morphine, sleeping pills... the death cocktail....

Amazing thing he never really goes to bed, he lies down, gets up and will sleep on his feet muttering until he either falls or sits down.

Very sorry to learn of this....try to stay strong and God Bless.

[AVGWarhawk]

My father is in the last stages of COPD. He now gets so little oxygen to his brain he really doesn't know who he is or where he is most the time. Constantly talking to past dead friends as if they're in the room.

Hospice nurse told me OK to cut all his numerous meds for blood pressure, heart, several other issues and now were mass doping him with morphine, sleeping pills... the death cocktail....

Amazing thing he never really goes to bed, he lies down, gets up and will sleep on his feet muttering until he either falls or sits down.

Sorry to hear of this news.

[fireftr18]

My father is in the last stages of COPD. He now gets so little oxygen to his brain he really doesn't know who he is or where he is most the time. Constantly talking to past dead friends as if they're in the room.

Hospice nurse told me OK to cut all his numerous meds for blood pressure, heart, several other issues and now were mass doping him with morphine, sleeping pills... the death cocktail....

Amazing thing he never really goes to bed, he lies down, gets up and will sleep on his feet muttering until he either falls or sits down.

I hate to hear this. I've seen way too much of this and I wouldn't wish it on anyone and the family. Prayers for the strength to get you and your family through this.

[August]

Evidence please? I've given you a heart specialist's name who is doing and has done a number of peer reviewed studies into the effects of e-cigs that are published in professional journals. His work is easily found and read. You've supplied WebMD. Ask your GP's opinion of WebMD, he will probably do something like this: :damn: That is to say, I don't consider it evidence :down:

Well don't believe it then. No skin off my nose. The last thing I would want to do is get between an addict and his fix. :up:

For the record I have talked with both my GP and and my Cardiologist and their opinions about E-Cigs are pretty much as I have already told you. It's just easier to post the WebMD link than bring them to the keyboard to tell you themselves. :03:

Beyond web sites and dissertations though I add my own experience. I belong to the last great (American) smoking generation. We started smoking and in great numbers before the dangers of tobacco use were really taken seriously. Heck I'd been smoking almost a decade before they outlawed cigarette vending machines.

What this means is that over the years I have known and observed the smoking cessation efforts of literally thousands of people, including my attemptS (plural) to kick my own 36 year long pack a day habit. It's been my experience that nicotine replacement schemes lessen ones chances of quitting more than enhance them. This is because they draw out and maintain the cycle of addiction. Everyone I know that was successful did it what we call cold turkey.

Now you claim to be on track to stop using E-cigs then if that's true I say good luck to you Sir. I am not saying that you won't be successful but remember that you'll only begin to be really free of the addiction once you stop using nicotine completely.

[Armistead]

That's pretty sobering Armistead. Despite how we individually approach our way out of this horrible addiction, we should always remember realities like this. I will keep your father's experience in mind when I'm tempted.

NEVER AGAIN. :stare:

And he's still smoking...course now mostly puffing on make believe cigs or unlit ones.

Before his last long bout in ICU I had to take him to the ER twice for health issues. They wanted to keep him both times, but after a few hours he would sign out...simply tell me he wanted a cig... After he almost died and made it out of ICU from severe pneumonia, he was placed in a rehab center, they wanted him for a few weeks. He signed himself out the next day so he could smoke.. He can hardly smoke now due to lung damage, but he'll try to puff one down between the coughing...

[gordonmull]

Well don't believe it then. No skin off my nose. The last thing I would want to do is get between an addict and his fix. :up:

For the record I have talked with both my GP and and my Cardiologist and their opinions about E-Cigs are pretty much as I have already told you. It's just easier to post the WebMD link than bring them to the keyboard to tell you themselves. :03:

Beyond web sites and dissertations though I add my own experience. I belong to the last great (American) smoking generation. We started smoking and in great numbers before the dangers of tobacco use were really taken seriously. Heck I'd been smoking almost a decade before they outlawed cigarette vending machines.

What this means is that over the years I have known and observed the smoking cessation efforts of literally thousands of people, including my attemptS (plural) to kick my own 36 year long pack a day habit. It's been my experience that nicotine replacement schemes lessen ones chances of quitting more than enhance them. This is because they draw out and maintain the cycle of addiction. Everyone I know that was successful did it what we call cold turkey.

Now you claim to be on track to stop using E-cigs then if that's true I say good luck to you Sir. I am not saying that you won't be successful but remember that you'll only begin to be really free of the addiction once you stop using nicotine completely.

I've just re-read my reply to you August. I was little impolite there, so sorry. I have to say, though, that this is Farsalinos' area of interest and as such he's probably a bit more clued up on the subject than your average cardiologist. I have tried all sorts of nic replacement myself and they are useless. My feeling is that they are not tailored to the person, seek to treat the habit before the addiction and aren't easily customisable. Also, they put pressure on you: 6 weeks then 4 weeks and then 4 weeks of lowering strength, then nothing. It's too rigid. I've also tried cold turkey several times and that's even worse. I wholeheartedly agree with you that NRT programs only extend the agony.

The beauty with the e-cig is that you can VERY SLOWLY decrease your intake as and when you feel like it. I admit most people probably won't mix their own liquids and go down this route, however I do know of many people who have been successful by doing this.

Good news is I've been fag free for nearly 10 months now, except for one incident while drinking, and i couldn't even carry on smoking that - it was vile. It was a good feeling stubbing it out and knowing that I'd never touch one again. Weaning myself off with e-cigs worked for about two months but i ran it too fast and the withdrawals got on top of me so I'm back on nicotine liquid but cutting down slower this time. Too bullishly determined to be rid instead of listening to my body. Aiming to be a free man by December now.

The reason for my fall was having nicotine base liquid in the house. When I went on to no nicotine liquids I considered throwing the nic base out but kept it in case temptation came over me and I was tempted to smoke. This time when i get to no-nic, the bottle's going in the bucket, the e-cig's going in a drawer and I'm being 100% clean of nicotine AND habit. Really pissed off to be set back but I'm taking it as a learning experience.

[August]

Nicotine can be a demanding mistress. Good for you Gordon! :up:

[Obelix]

February 28th of this year, I smoked the last cigarette:woot::Kaleun_Cheers:. Especially difficult was the first two days:/\\!!. In order to drown out the craving for a cigarette, I started this jam. So I bought another problem - I have a tummy:O:. True, this problem has been partially resolved and is not as serious:salute:.

[HunterICX]

This month marks my 7th year smoke free :)

[Schroeder]

This month marks my 7th year smoke free :)
Now if you could also get rid of those cheese fumes....:O:

[Armistead]

I've been quit a lil over 2 years, with a few moments of failure, smoke one or two, but stopped.....I still want to pick them up, but been several months since a failed moment.

After my last post about my father I see a few on down or up depending on how you view things, he died a slow and brutal death. He was finally sent to a hospice hospital the last week. He had his last smoke about lunch and died that night....

[Jimbuna]

This month marks my 7th year smoke free :)

Well done Wim, keep it up. I stopped shortly after the SubSim Meet 2008 and a couple of weeks after Chris (AVG).

Can't honestly say I miss em and that's even during a drink.

[Herr-Berbunch]

This month marks my 7th year smoke free :)


On Monday I'll be 40 years without a cigarette. :03:

Well done, by the way. :yeah:

[gordonmull]

Well don't believe it then. No skin off my nose. The last thing I would want to do is get between an addict and his fix. :up:

For the record I have talked with both my GP and and my Cardiologist and their opinions about E-Cigs are pretty much as I have already told you. It's just easier to post the WebMD link than bring them to the keyboard to tell you themselves. :03:

Beyond web sites and dissertations though I add my own experience. I belong to the last great (American) smoking generation. We started smoking and in great numbers before the dangers of tobacco use were really taken seriously. Heck I'd been smoking almost a decade before they outlawed cigarette vending machines.

What this means is that over the years I have known and observed the smoking cessation efforts of literally thousands of people, including my attempts (plural) to kick my own 36 year long pack a day habit. It's been my experience that nicotine replacement schemes lessen ones chances of quitting more than enhance them. This is because they draw out and maintain the cycle of addiction. Everyone I know that was successful did it what we call cold turkey.

Now you claim to be on track to stop using E-cigs then if that's true I say good luck to you Sir. I am not saying that you won't be successful but remember that you'll only begin to be really free of the addiction once you stop using nicotine completely.

You couldn't have been more right. Especially your third sentence. I understand it now. I am currently going through cold turkey and it will get better. I haven't smoked in nearly 1 and a half years and over that time I've really only tortured myself, keeping myself in permanent withdrawal for a lot of the time. It's not a great route. Even though I have not smoked for that time it still feels like a hollow victory. I still have to defeat nicotine and unless I do, I'm sunk. I will, of course, but what a journey.

Thank you for trying to make me see the light and thank you for being another person who reinforces the fact that an addict's eyes are blinded. I know that now. You knew me then more than I knew me! I've accepted what I am now, a drug addict. I've demonstrated it quite effectively by changing the delivery method. This stops and it stays stopped. Thank you for trying to help me and remaining calm when I threw it back at you.

8 days off the nic, 1 year and 4 months off the fags. Good luck to all the other subsimmers ridding themselves.

[Gargamel]

On Monday I'll be 40 years without a cigarette. :03:

Well done, by the way. :yeah:

COngrats! I say around my cigar.

[Obltn Strand]

Five years without earns me a Iron cross 1st Class:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Jimbuna]

Five years without earns me a Iron cross 1st Class:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Always better than a wooden one.

http://i.imgur.com/gZFZDAl.jpg

[August]

You couldn't have been more right. Especially your third sentence. I understand it now. I am currently going through cold turkey and it will get better. I haven't smoked in nearly 1 and a half years and over that time I've really only tortured myself, keeping myself in permanent withdrawal for a lot of the time. It's not a great route. Even though I have not smoked for that time it still feels like a hollow victory. I still have to defeat nicotine and unless I do, I'm sunk. I will, of course, but what a journey.

Thank you for trying to make me see the light and thank you for being another person who reinforces the fact that an addict's eyes are blinded. I know that now. You knew me then more than I knew me! I've accepted what I am now, a drug addict. I've demonstrated it quite effectively by changing the delivery method. This stops and it stays stopped. Thank you for trying to help me and remaining calm when I threw it back at you.

8 days off the nic, 1 year and 4 months off the fags. Good luck to all the other subsimmers ridding themselves.

Just spotted this. Sorry for the late reply.

Good for you man! Nicotine addiction is tough to beat but it can be beaten and you're proving it. :salute:

[Reece]

I wonder how Dowly is going? Did he give in?:hmmm:
Giving up was one of the best moves I ever made, the price of cigarettes in Australia is around $35 a pack moving up to $40 :o (the commie government trying to force people off them).
what is it in the US?

[August]

I wonder how Dowly is going? Did he give in?:hmmm:
Giving up was one of the best moves I ever made, the price of cigarettes in Australia is around $35 a pack moving up to $40 :o (the commie government trying to force people off them).
what is it in the US?

Not quite that bad. $9-10 I a pack I believe. To think I used to buy Marlboro Reds for $2 a full carton at the PX back in the day.

[Gargamel]

I think that has some state taxes thrown in there too, August. Here we can get them for about $5 a pack. Of course, theres always the 'local' Indian reservations, people will make the 2 hour trip to get the really cheap cartons.

[August]

I think that has some state taxes thrown in there too, August. Here we can get them for about $5 a pack. Of course, theres always the 'local' Indian reservations, people will make the 2 hour trip to get the really cheap cartons.


Quite possible. I haven't bought a cigarette in almost a decade.

[Obltn Strand]

Malrboro red is 6,50€ here in Finland. Most of it tax. Other laws include warning texts and those horror pictures also stores have to keep cigarette packs in a cabinet out sight...

[Commander Wallace]

Congratulations to everyone who has quit smoking and all the best to everyone who is trying to quit. :Kaleun_Applaud:

[Hjalfnar]

It's been some time since I posted here. Well, the short story: I quit smoking!

The longer: In the beginning months of 2015 I suddenly got problems with my lungs. Coughing all day, asthma. I stopped smoking for a few weeks, then started again...and it came back. Went to the doc and well, I am now allergic to nicotine. Wasn't really able to quit though, but because of my body reacting quite heavily to me still smoking I got pneumonia. After 6 months of reconvalescence I finally got better and I haven't smoked a single cigarette ever since. To be honest I tried once, but I almost puked so my body seems to have undergone his very own aversion therapy. Only problem now is to lose the additional 20kg I gained because I started eating more after quitting. xD

[Jimbuna]

Unfortunately the downside to quitting is often weight gain and that is precisely what I experienced in 2008.

The upside being, if you eat relatively healthy and exercise just a little that extra weight should eventually go away.

[fireftr18]

Congratulations on quitting and your success at it. Good luck for the future. Don't worry about the extra weight, I'm sure you still feel much better.
:Kaleun_Salute:

[eddie]

Unfortunately the downside to quitting is often weight gain and that is precisely what I experienced in 2008.

The upside being, if you eat relatively healthy and exercise just a little that extra weight should eventually go away.


Well Jim, I'm in the process of trying to quit. Went through a battery of tests when my Dr believed I might have cancer. But got lucky, very lucky and none was found. Still got to get off these cancer sticks, get through that then will battle with the weight thing. One problem at a time,lol

[Obltn Strand]

Congratulations guys! Better to have some extra weight than tar lungs. Besides daddy pack is somekind of trend. Still carrying some extra myself after all these years...

[Jimbuna]

Well Jim, I'm in the process of trying to quit. Went through a battery of tests when my Dr believed I might have cancer. But got lucky, very lucky and none was found. Still got to get off these cancer sticks, get through that then will battle with the weight thing. One problem at a time,lol

All the best Eddie :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Congratulations for quiting. Not an easy task but well worth the end result.

[turbotnator]

Was a smoker myself - 10 years, in fact. Tried absolutely everything to quit and didn't find anything useful. Then I had a go with Champix (https://www.pharmica.co.uk/stop-smoking/champix) and managed to finally cut it out. If you find getting the willpower too difficult, would 100% recommend it. You still need that willpower, don't get me wrong. But it manages to cut the cravings massively to make stopping easier.

[Catfish]

Spam? Troll?
This revived post is from 2018.

[Jimbuna]

Spam? Troll?
This revived post is from 2018.

I'm not too sure, they have only failed one of my usual checks. Best to wait and see.