As requested NEW KILOs

[TLAM Strike]

I still need to add tube doors (need help on that to anyone reading this) and a few more details but they look great in game.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8666/kilo01.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kilo01.jpg)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6849/kilo02.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kilo02.jpg)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1123/kilo03.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kilo03.jpg)

[nemo67]

You want that the tube doors open or just texture?

[TLAM Strike]

You want that the tube doors open or just texture?
I what opening tube doors.

[Spookymufu]

looks good!

[nemo67]

Requires that the doors are on a different meshes that the body of the submarine.;)

[LoBlo]

Wow, looking really good TLAM and... hey that's the Alrosa! Sweet.

Your getting pretty good. Better watch out or peeps might start soliticiting you for work;)

[Hitman]

Oh cool!! here comes my favourite sub in DW :yeah:

I guess those are for LWAMI 3.1, or will you release the model updates independenty?

Nice from you to make the Alrosa, I guess we can add it as playable in LWAMI as we already discussed some time ago (That one and the old 688 are just versions of already playable boats, so it should be OK with SCS)

As far as I know the Alrosa is of course quieter than a normal 877, probably like a 636, but is reportedly less manuverable at slow speeds. I guess that can be replicated well in the game? :hmmm:

[TLAM Strike]

Oh cool!! here comes my favourite sub in DW :yeah:

I guess those are for LWAMI 3.1, or will you release the model updates independenty?

Nice from you to make the Alrosa, I guess we can add it as playable in LWAMI as we already discussed some time ago (That one and the old 688 are just versions of already playable boats, so it should be OK with SCS)

As far as I know the Alrosa is of course quieter than a normal 877, probably like a 636, but is reportedly less manuverable at slow speeds. I guess that can be replicated well in the game? :hmmm: Yes these will be for the next LWAMI.

The new Alrosa will be playable complete with its own acoustic signature and handeling characteristics (although I'm not sure if being less manuverable at low speed is possable just less manuverable at all speeds).

Am I correct in assuming that the Alrosa would also be slightly slower than a standard 877 class due to the pumpjet?

Also good news i sucessfully cut the tube doors in the mesh. I just need to add the tubes and tweek the shutter doors so they open properly. Then I'm going to remake the aft dive planes so they are more accurate based on some new photos I found via google.

[Molon Labe]

I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves here.

Now maybe I'm wrong and looking at posts that are out of date, but my understanding is that new playable OBJECTS can't be added.

You can mod the hell out of an existing DB object and turn it into something else, but a new object added won't be playable. Which means to add a different Alrosa, you'd have to sacrifice another database object to turn it into the new Alrosa. In practical effect, you'd be sacrificing an entire playable class.

[Molon Labe]

I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves here.

Now maybe I'm wrong and looking at posts that are out of date, but my understanding is that new playable OBJECTS can't be added.

You can mod the hell out of an existing DB object and turn it into something else, but a new object added won't be playable. Which means to add a different Alrosa, you'd have to sacrifice another database object to turn it into the new Alrosa. In practical effect, you'd be sacrificing an entire playable class.

I just confirmed with LW. A playable Alrosa with a new model isn't going to happen. We can still make a duplicate AI one with the new model tho.

[goldorak]

Why not sacrifice one of the playable kilo already in the game.
Right now we have 2 kilo class subs, the 877 and 636.
Get rid of one of these and replace it with the Alrosa. :D

[Molon Labe]

Because it does not make sense to remove an entire class just to get one boat.

[goldorak]

Because it does not make sense to remove an entire class just to get one boat.


But you're not eliminating all the playable kilos just to make room for the Alrosa. You're eliminating either the playable 877 kilo or the playable 636 kilo not both. Maybe I just don't understand what the problem is. :hmmm:

[Molon Labe]

My guess is that you either think the Project 877 and Project 636 are individual submarines or that you think they are the same because they both share the name Kilo. Neither is true. The Project 877 and Project 636 are distinct submarines classes with different specifications, with several individual submarines in each class. The Alrosa is a modified Project 877, just one sub out of 11 Russian Project 877s in DW.

[Molon Labe]

EDIT:

OK, here's an idea. The next release could have two database versions. The standard database has a playable 877 class and a new nonplayable 877-mod class consisting of the Alrosa. We throw in a special database that changes the playable 877 class to the 877-mod class, and create a nonplayable 877 class. You use the special database if and only if you're going to load a mission where someone plays as the Alrosa and there are no other playable 877s around. (Note that this special database will not be compatible with missions made with 877 Kilos other than the Alrosa).

I was thinking for a moment that this wouldn't work because you'd need to swap models, but really, you just need to change the model referenced in the database, and that's easy.

Come to think of it, this concept sounds familiar. I wonder... is this how SCU worked? Well, if it is, I'm not going to care in this instance. As far as I'm concerned, we are fixing an existing playable because the Alrosa has been in the stock database since the day DW was released, it just had the wrong model and spec's.

[TLAM Strike]

Yea I guess a new Alrosa isn't going to happen unless we change the .dlls.

I've added tube doors and a better screw.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2i0r7o5.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/257hjsp.jpg

[LoBlo]

There are enough versions of the Kilo ingame that one could easily be exchanged for the Alrosa.

[Hitman]

I agree, we could simply take the chinese 877 and swap it for the Alrosa. :up:

[Molon Labe]

I agree, we could simply take the chinese 877 and swap it for the Alrosa. :up:

Then it would have a Chinese loadout.

[Hitman]

Then it would have a Chinese loadout

:damn:

[TLAM Strike]

Ok guys I got a problem here. I've made much improved tube doors (thanks to Spookymufu's advice) but the tube doors don't move. I've named them "TORP_DOOR_#" but they don't move like the originals. My prevous attempt at tube doors don't work anymore eather. Whats going on? Anyone got any ideas?

BTW here are some samples of what else I have in the way of improved playables that are coming your way soon...
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8136/akulapreview.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akulapreview.jpg)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5175/seawolfpreview.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seawolfpreview.jpg)

[LoBlo]

Ok guys I got a problem here. I've made much improved tube doors (thanks to Spookymufu's advice) but the tube doors don't move. I've named them "TORP_DOOR_#" but they don't move like the originals. My prevous attempt at tube doors don't work anymore eather. Whats going on? Anyone got any ideas?

Absolutely no clue. Sorry.

[TLAM Strike]

I just tried the tube doors on my seawolf model with no luck. I really would like to know whats going on...

Speaking of my seawolf...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2va1aic.jpg

[Kapitan]

looking good TLAM!

[LoBlo]

Yes, a new SW model would be a genuine upgrade from the stock, misproportioned model. Can't wait. All the models look great, any ETA on the next iteration of LW&A TLAM?
On an alternative note: Sinces your getting better and better, here's a challenge for ya. Ever thought about doing the KAPUSTA class...:o:yep:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ssv-33.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/ssv-33c.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/ssv-33.jpg
Google Map http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.928139,132.420975&spn=0.006033,0.025406&t=h&z=15&key=ABQIAAAAtdvYAbw5lDwcjzRdYrS7TBTO5BBP3GUfoyJwQW x-SsXI8R3DaBTs3FvpYmRvznYvltbRJUplZDgShQ&mapclient=jsapi&oi=map_misc&ct=api_logo

[TLAM Strike]

Yes, a new SW model would be a genuine upgrade from the stock, misproportioned model. Can't wait. All the models look great, any ETA on the next iteration of LW&A TLAM? Err negtive until I can find a fix for my torpedo tube door issues. :damn:

Plus I have to paint the Akula, and Seawolf models. Add tubes and sensors to the Akula and make an Akula II Mod model.


On an alternative note: Sinces your getting better and better, here's a challenge for ya. Ever thought about doing the KAPUSTA class...:o:yep:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ssv-33.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/ssv-33c.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/ssv-33.jpg
Google Map http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.928139,132.420975&spn=0.006033,0.025406&t=h&z=15&key=ABQIAAAAtdvYAbw5lDwcjzRdYrS7TBTO5BBP3GUfoyJwQW x-SsXI8R3DaBTs3FvpYmRvznYvltbRJUplZDgShQ&mapclient=jsapi&oi=map_misc&ct=api_logo
Looks like a SES Ship (Space Event Suport Ship). But naw I got sufficent projects to keep me buisy right now. :yep:

[Fleet Command CC]

Yea I guess a new Alrosa isn't going to happen unless we change the .dlls.

I've added tube doors and a better screw.

Hey TLAM Strike,
I've been away for sometime. this new sub look supercool. :rock::rock:Could I have a copy of your new Kilos, please its would look great in Fleet Command. :salute:

[XabbaRus]

Are they moving at all? You will have to experiment moving pivots around.

Also as I said in a different thread the names have to be exact as they are in stock DW. They are also case sensitive. MAX can sometimes change the case of an item name.

[Fleet Command CC]

Yea I guess a new Alrosa isn't going to happen unless we change the .dlls.

I've added tube doors and a better screw.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2i0r7o5.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/257hjsp.jpg

Hey TLAM Strike,
I've been away for sometime. this new sub look supercool. Could I have a copy of your new Kilos, please its would look great in Fleet Command.

Thats a no then?

[TLAM Strike]

Hey TLAM Strike,
I've been away for sometime. this new sub look supercool. :rock::rock:Could I have a copy of your new Kilos, please its would look great in Fleet Command. :salute: When they are done I'll post the .j3ds.

Are they moving at all? You will have to experiment moving pivots around.

Also as I said in a different thread the names have to be exact as they are in stock DW. They are also case sensitive. MAX can sometimes change the case of an item name. No they are not moving. I've made sure the names are the same case but it still dosn't work. Could DW edit be showing the wrong or incomplete name?

[Fleet Command CC]

When they are done I'll post the .j3ds.

Hey TLAM Strike,

Thats great niceone thanks. :salute:

[LoBlo]

No they are not moving. I've made sure the names are the same case but it still dosn't work. Could DW edit be showing the wrong or incomplete name?

Hey TLAM, any progress?

[Fleet Command CC]

When they are done I'll post the .j3ds.

No they are not moving. I've made sure the names are the same case but it still dosn't work. Could DW edit be showing the wrong or incomplete name?

Hey TLAM Strike,

Have you got the Hierarchy setting right? :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

Hey TLAM Strike,

Have you got the Hierarchy setting right? :salute:


Hmmm I have know idea. How do I set the Hierarchy and what settings would be correct?

Hey TLAM, any progress?
Sorry no I just got a new graphics card and a copy of SHIV so I've gotten very little work done lately. :oops:

[Fleet Command CC]

Hmmm I have know idea. How do I set the Hierarchy and what settings would be correct?

TLAM Strike,

I would need the model to see how to do it, I'm not sure if the animation work in the same way has Fleet Command. :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

TLAM Strike,

I would need the model to see how to do it, I'm not sure if the animation work in the same way has Fleet Command. :salute:

What format do you need it in? I can send it in 3dsmax V3.01 format, .3ds or .j3d. PM me with an email address to send it to and I will try and send it in a couple of days.

[Fleet Command CC]

What format do you need it in? I can send it in 3dsmax V3.01 format, .3ds or .j3d. PM me with an email address to send it to and I will try and send it in a couple of days.

I've PM you. :salute:

[Fleet Command CC]

Here is how to animated an torpedo door.

The animated parts do work in the same way as they do in Fleet Command.

All you need to do is,

1. Select the part you want to animate.
2. Name part TORP_DOOR_1 for example.
3. Go to a tab called "Hierarchy” on one of the panels.
4. Click "affect pivot only"
5. Click "Center to object"
6. Click "align to world"
7. Move the pivot to point to the top of the torpedo door.


http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss62/fleetcommandcc/3D%20Models/HierarchySetting.jpg

Its has easy as that. :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

Thanks for the info FCCC. I'll try it tonight and see how it goes, hopefully all the new player subs will have working tube doors. :yeah:

[Fleet Command CC]

Thanks for the info FCCC. I'll try it tonight and see how it goes, hopefully all the new player subs will have working tube doors. :yeah:

TLAM Strike

Let me know if you get it working or not. :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

UPDATE:
Thanks to FCCC I've gotten the tubedoors working and have send the models out to be included in the next LWAMI.

[caymanlee]

UPDATE:
Thanks to FCCC I've gotten the tubedoors working and have send the models out to be included in the next LWAMI.

Good news! great work:yeah: an accurate ssn21 and ssn23 model, I dream for a long time, wish they can surface sooner

BTW: the control codes of those "animate modules of playable" contain in the "dangerouswater.exe", change that codes, like "names of animate modules",change things

codes in exe:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/caymanlee/stuff/modulecodes.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

Good news! great work:yeah: an accurate ssn21 and ssn23 model, I dream for a long time, wish they can surface sooner

BTW: the control codes of those "animate modules of playable" contain in the "dangerouswater.exe", change that codes, like "names of animate modules",change things

codes in exe:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/caymanlee/stuff/modulecodes.jpg
Could you explane how you were able to access those?

[caymanlee]

Could you explane how you were able to access those?

easy, use any Hex tool, like "WinHex", open "*.exe", there you go.

but change the codes efficiently, that is another story, due to the "byte limit".
same as the "*.dll" modification

If you like any kind of modification regard "exe" or "dll", let me know.

[LoBlo]

Hey TLAM. Are you still taking request? An improved Virginia Class model would be nice. The one from SCX is great, but the sonar dome isn't quite right and the color scheme isn't accurate.

BTW. Any new projects in the works?

[TLAM Strike]

Hey TLAM. Are you still taking request? An improved Virginia Class model would be nice. The one from SCX is great, but the sonar dome isn't quite right and the color scheme isn't accurate.

BTW. Any new projects in the works? I assume you mean a better Virginia than SCX and not the Flt 2 Virginia, because I don't think the Flt 2 Va's design has been finalized. I had not considered the Virginia class but I will consider it.

As for new projects check out the Books, movies and model's board for pics of my Barbel Class 3d Model. Or if your too lazy to check it out here is the lattest render...

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.e3678aec22.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e3678aec22.jpg)

Also you can check out some of my other work here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?albumid=47

[LoBlo]

I assume you mean a better Virginia than SCX and not the Flt 2 Virginia, because I don't think the Flt 2 Va's design has been finalized. I had not considered the Virginia class but I will consider it.

As for new projects check out the Books, movies and model's board for pics of my Barbel Class 3d Model. Or if your too lazy to check it out here is the lattest render...

[/URL]
Also you can check out some of my other work here [URL]http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?albumid=47 (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e3678aec22.jpg)

Sweet album. Love the LCS. It would make a great addition to the game. As for the Virginia, yes I was referring to an improved model from the SCX model (as opposed to a flight 2 VA).

Any time-frame on the next version of LWAM?

[TLAM Strike]

Sweet album. Love the LCS. It would make a great addition to the game. As for the Virginia, yes I was referring to an improved model from the SCX model (as opposed to a flight 2 VA).

Any time-frame on the next version of LWAM? Yes the LCS along with some of its support assests like the Sea Scout UAV will be in the next LWAMI. ;)

As for a time frame it lookes like the team restarting work following some computer problems so no time frame as yet but I expect some exciting stuff to happen in the months ahead. I know I'm redoubling my efforts in the 3d graphics department (real lift allowing). :yeah:

Until that DB issue came up which messed up backwards compatablity we were days from release of some neat stuff. :damn:

[TLAM Strike]

New stuff for Iran...

Hengam LST
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ea54d3d318.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ea54d3d318.jpg)
Armed Boston Whalers
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.8890ac2d7b.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8890ac2d7b.jpg)
Kajimi semi-sub torpedo boat
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.40cd3103bc.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?40cd3103bc.jpg)

[Fleet Command CC]

I assume you mean a better Virginia than SCX and not the Flt 2 Virginia, because I don't think the Flt 2 Va's design has been finalized. I had not considered the Virginia class but I will consider it.

As for new projects check out the Books, movies and model's board for pics of my Barbel Class 3d Model. Or if your too lazy to check it out here is the lattest render...

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.e3678aec22.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e3678aec22.jpg)

Also you can check out some of my other work here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?albumid=47

New stuff for Iran...

Hengam LST
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ea54d3d318.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ea54d3d318.jpg)
Armed Boston Whalers
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.8890ac2d7b.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8890ac2d7b.jpg)
Kajimi semi-sub torpedo boat
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.40cd3103bc.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?40cd3103bc.jpg)

Hey TLAM Strike.

Any chance I can get a copy of these great models for Fleet Command.:salute:

[TLAM Strike]

Hey TLAM Strike.

Any chance I can get a copy of these great models for Fleet Command.:salute: Sure can. I'll send them to your email box. But the Barbel is not done yet so you will have to wait for that one. ;)

[TLAM Strike]

Lattest additons:

DPRK TB-11PA PC Boat
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.e6c8205651.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e6c8205651.jpg)

Varyious Zhuk class PCs
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.f1f1bba0ff.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?f1f1bba0ff.jpg)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ab348ee3e9.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ab348ee3e9.jpg)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.9c0c065d2e.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?9c0c065d2e.jpg)
Fouque LCT
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.bc5f165b04.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?bc5f165b04.jpg)

Babur LAM Launch TEL
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.d29af8d499.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?d29af8d499.jpg)

[TLAM Strike]

New stuff:

AS REQUESTED: Russian Proj 885 SSN
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=952

The 1st part of my major PLA Navy overhaul:
PLAN Yudeng LSM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=954

PLAN Type 724 LCAC
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=955

PLAN Shang SSN
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=953

[FERdeBOER]

Fantastic!!
:yeah::up::up:

[ASWnut101]

Hey TLAM, any chance we get new Italian and Spanish surface units in the next LWAMI (unless someone can tell me how to import the models into DW, then I could do it myself :) )? The Mediterranean feels kinda empty with only France, Libya, and Russia. :D

[TLAM Strike]

Hey TLAM, any chance we get new Italian and Spanish surface units in the next LWAMI (unless someone can tell me how to import the models into DW, then I could do it myself :) )? The Mediterranean feels kinda empty with only France, Libya, and Russia. :D Well I'm leaving all the importing from SCX to ML for the time being. So its up to him, and he is kinda taking a break.

However I have considered a making a few Libyian ships but just haven't gotten around to it since I've been giving all my focus on the Gulf, and Asia.

On to new stuff

AS REQUESTED! Borei SSBN
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=985
Kobben Diesel
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=983
my specal project the USS Barbel
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=984

[Bill Nichols]

All I want is a tugboat. A stinkin' little generic tugboat. It would add a little more reality to entering & leaving port.

:ahoy:

[TLAM Strike]

New Stuff:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1025
DPRK Sang-O midget sub
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1024
Danish MSF Drone Mine Sweeper
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1023
Libyan Nour Training Vessel

All I want is a tugboat. A stinkin' little generic tugboat. It would add a little more reality to entering & leaving port.

:ahoy:

Your wish is my command o Master of Defense. :salute: I will add that to my to do list.

[Pumpkin]

All I want is a tugboat. A stinkin' little generic tugboat. It would add a little more reality to entering & leaving port.

:ahoy:


DWX already has a tug boat, of sorts. Check in the USNI reference under civilian.

Although it would be nice to have a couple of different ones. :D

[TLAM Strike]

Large Tug Boat
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1035

Saudi Al Jouf class FAC
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1034

[TLAM Strike]

New Stuff
"The Finger", the notorious Iranian spy platform on a bombed out crane in the Northern Persian Gulf.


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1170

Upgraded Iranian Bayandor class Corvette
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1167

MKIII Patrol Craft
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1168

Peterson Patrol Boat
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1169

Ababil Iranian UAV
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1171

Mohajer IRanian UAV
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1172

[Fleet Command CC]

Hey TLAM Strike.

Great model's has always, super job well done.

Don't forget to post screen prints of the model's I gave you. :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

Don't forget to post screen prints of the model's I gave you. :salute:
Wilco. I've set up a gallery in my profile for models that I painted but didn't make.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?albumid=184
You can see the Tarawa class LHA there among others
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=184&pictureid=1268

Here are a few that are 100% mine:
Iranian Hendijan class tender
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1272

Bandar Abbas class AOR IRINS "Boosher"
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=47&pictureid=1271

[Fleet Command CC]

TLAM Strike.

Great niceone good job. :salute:

[goldorak]

There is no chance of these fabulous 3d models getting into RA ?

[Fleet Command CC]

There is no chance of these fabulous 3d models getting into RA ?

Hey goldorak.

I ask RA Team about some of the model's I gave TLAM Strike and they didn't seem interested in them. :salute:

[goldorak]

Hey goldorak.

I ask RA Team about some of the model's I gave TLAM Strike and they didn't seem interested in them. :salute:


:cry:
oh well, since the next version will have an open database hopefully some one will pack all these models and import them into RA. :03: