View Full Version : SH3 not so realistic afterall?
Pistitom
04-25-09, 09:02 AM
Guys, what's with the periscopes underwater? I could use them at a depth of 160 m, very useful when evading depth charges...I suppose in reality one cannot do that, it's too dark down there, right?:)
nikbear
04-25-09, 09:06 AM
I can't :o Past 25m's and its like pea soup:yep:
A Very Super Market
04-25-09, 09:12 AM
You could easily just not use it after a certain depth. It isn't as if you have important functions to do with it at 200 metres...
Jimbuna
04-25-09, 01:05 PM
From the detail supplied I presume your playing stock? :hmmm:
Task Force
04-25-09, 01:17 PM
You could easily just not use it after a certain depth. It isn't as if you have important functions to do with it at 200 metres...
Look at the deep sea fishies.:yep:
Guys, what's with the periscopes underwater? I could use them at a depth of 160 m, very useful when evading depth charges...I suppose in reality one cannot do that, it's too dark down there, right?:)
I would think. Don't know how 'realistic' using the periscope on a pitch black night with 1940s optics is either. As I remember the original SH didn't even permit you to use the scope at night.
Schütze
04-25-09, 02:03 PM
Same here. Dark as a bottom after 25. In night i can´t even see the stern...
But easy task to solve, don´t look in the periscope :)
Pistitom
04-25-09, 03:02 PM
Well, didn't try it at night-yet, but if I remember well, indeed, around 20-30 m. it's pitch black... but this ain't no problem, on the contrary, quite useful:D...I'm using GWX3 by the way.
sunvalleyslim
04-26-09, 02:30 AM
Guys, what's with the periscopes underwater? I could use them at a depth of 160 m, very useful when evading depth charges...I suppose in reality one cannot do that, it's too dark down there, right?:)
The operative word here is reality.............periscopes are for looking at the surface and sky, not underwater...........clarity is an issue.........
GoldenRivet
04-26-09, 02:35 AM
yeah my periscope is pretty much useless below about 30 meters.
Oneshot/Onekill
04-26-09, 06:53 AM
If I remember right you could see clear as day in stock SH3 underwater.
With GWX, you lose the sunlight from the surface after 30m.:)
Jimbuna
04-26-09, 08:29 AM
If I remember right you could see clear as day in stock SH3 underwater.
With GWX, you lose the sunlight from the surface after 30m.:)
Yep....more or less.
However, using SH3 Commander water set at level 20 isn't too far away from stock.
Pistitom
04-26-09, 09:36 AM
Well, interesting...there was no difference at 20 and 160 m. for me....I was just curious how this would work in reality....:salute:
Oneshot/Onekill
04-27-09, 03:32 AM
Hey jim, in relation to this topic, has anyone from GW dev team or other modder's come up with a way to put alge in the water to give it more realistic look underwater? Or is it out of the game engine's ability?:)
danlisa
04-27-09, 03:49 AM
LOL, I remember those days, navigating mine fields using the OBS scope.:har:
Where the game engine fails to produce realism, this is where the roleplay comes in ;).
Jimbuna
04-27-09, 07:50 AM
Hey jim, in relation to this topic, has anyone from GW dev team or other modder's come up with a way to put alge in the water to give it more realistic look underwater? Or is it out of the game engine's ability?:)
Not as far as I am aware.
The game engine is now quite oooold (3 1/2 years roughly).
I remember the early seabed floor efforts and the fps hit some of them caused, so I should imagine an algae mod could well have a similar detrimental effect.
ReallyDedPoet
04-27-09, 07:58 AM
Not as far as I am aware.
The game engine is now quite oooold (3 1/2 years roughly).
I remember the early seabed floor efforts and the fps hit some of them caused, so I should imagine an algae mod could well have a similar detrimental effect.
Not sure how much algae the North Atlantic would have, South Atlantic\Med would I am guessing.
Has anybody tried porting this effect from SH4? Stock is a little overdone, but there are mods that tone it down somewhat.
AVGWarhawk
04-27-09, 08:17 AM
Just a question...why would you want your scope up that could potentially get damaged from the DC your looking to avoid? (In RL anyway)
Jimbuna
04-27-09, 10:31 AM
It would appear some are gluttons for punishment :o
PappyCain
04-27-09, 11:03 AM
Hmmmm. Interesting. Maybe it is my video card and it's ability but depending on factors i.e. the suns position in the sky, region, weather, time of year, I have experienced varying visibility and color variation. Quite realistic I must say. I have played through ever month of every year. In RL with the sun directly above, in clear north sea water, I have seen well in 300m of water without lights, and in the Indian Ocean I have seen well in 4,000 meters. Of course weather will deteriorate viz.
:salute:
Sailor Steve
04-27-09, 12:11 PM
I use SH3 Commander to set the water clarity to 2. I can't see anything underwater at periscope depth.
Well, I can barely make out the bow of my u-boat.:rotfl:
Bronzewing
04-30-09, 02:48 AM
I think I read somewhere that sub commanders would sometimes use the Observation scope for night attacks as it's larger diameter let in more light and so made it easier to see through in low light than the attack scope.
I think I read somewhere that sub commanders would sometimes use the Observation scope for night attacks as it's larger diameter let in more light and so made it easier to see through in low light than the attack scope.
Yes, the obs scope had better visibility during night. :yep:
sharkbit
04-30-09, 08:21 AM
Sorry Dowly... what did you say?
I was too distracted by your signature picture. :D
Looks like they grow women pretty fine up there in Finland. All those dark nights, right?
:DL
Hanomag
04-30-09, 08:37 AM
Playing GWX 3 Gold.... I find the ocean depths pretty much like sailing around in the middle of a black hole..
Where are you Carribean mod? .. 80ft vis underwater :yeah:
timmyab
04-30-09, 01:34 PM
The first thing that I noticed about GWX 3 was just how quickly it gets dark once you're under water.This is a great improvement in my book.
I'd also like it to be pitch black at night on the surface if there's no moon.
Jimbuna
04-30-09, 02:42 PM
The first thing that I noticed about GWX 3 was just how quickly it gets dark once you're under water.This is a great improvement in my book.
I'd also like it to be pitch black at night on the surface if there's no moon.
I don't know about pitch black but it is darker than it ever has been in the past :hmmm:
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