Multiple messages about base change (GWX 3.0 Gold)

[Crunch Troll]

Hi!

I have just recently started using the Grey Wolves mod (3.0 Gold specifically) after playing SH III for some time.

With the addition of other starting flotillas, I decided to choose 7th/13th as I usually transfer to the 7th after it is available in regular SH III.

My second patrol in area AO98 (next to Konigsberg and containing Danzig) with 7th/13th began in the last week of August 1939 so I stayed on station in order to attack as soon as possible.

When 39 Sept 01 0000 rolled around, I started getting messages about base changes alternating Kiel and Konigsberg at a rate of about 8 per minute.

After doing some searching on the board (for keywords "base change multiple messages", the only messages I could find concerned GWX 2.1 and was supposedly fixed in GWX 3.0. From these messages, I know the error is likely caused by a data file that listed my homebase for 39 Sept as both locations.

To ensure this was not a one time occurence, I went to a save point a couple days prior and played up to this point making a couple of save points within a couple hours of Sept 01. This issue reappeared on all three save points tested.

I would rather not go through an entire month of base change messages (at 8 messages/minute or 11520 messages/day). Might miss something importart, like when I can shoot at someone. Or not shoot.

Has someone run into this issue with GWX 3.0 and more importantly, is there a fix?

Game Information
Windows XP SP3
SH III DVD - USA version (I presume that is the version Canadians get)
Patch 1.4b
GWX 3.0 Gold with following mods added (in this order):
- 16km Atmosphere
- English Nav Map and Grid Refs (I can read German but am lazy)
- Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
- Enhanced Damage Effects
- Integrated Orders
- No Medals on Crew
- Lite Harbour Traffic
- Open Hatch Mod
- VIIC/41 Player Sub
- Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
- Alternative Flotillas

If any further information is required, just ask and I will do what I can.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I will keep an ear to the ground... but that is the first time that I've heard of an error with the description you gave.

I suggest disabling the Alternative flotillas mod via JGSME since you are sailing from the standard core flotilla(s).

[Crunch Troll]

Disable Alternative Flotillas as you had indicated but the issue persisted. Also ran at time compression of x1 to doublecheck number of messages in 1 minute and my earlier estimate of 8/minute was correct.

Let me know if you need further data to assist with this problem.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Disable Alternative Flotillas as you had indicated but the issue persisted. Also ran at time compression of x1 to doublecheck number of messages in 1 minute and my earlier estimate of 8/minute was correct.

Let me know if you need further data to assist with this problem.

Hi mate,

Given that you have been the only one to report this issue, I don't believe the problem is related to the GWX mod.

I have been undable to replicate the situation you describe.

Since you have played SH3 for some time prior to engaging The Grey Wolves Expansion, I suggest that you use the game disk to completely remove all traces of your base SH3 installation... delete all GWX files from the directory manually... reboot your PC and reinstall SH3... patch to version 1.4b ... and then reinstall GWX 3.0.... to ensure that your installation is 'clean.'

[Crunch Troll]

Hi mate,

Given that you have been the only one to report this issue, I don't believe the problem is related to the GWX mod.

I have been undable to replicate the situation you describe.

Since you have played SH3 for some time prior to engaging The Grey Wolves Expansion, I suggest that you use the game disk to completely remove all traces of your base SH3 installation... delete all GWX files from the directory manually... reboot your PC and reinstall SH3... patch to version 1.4b ... and then reinstall GWX 3.0.... to ensure that your installation is 'clean.'

Unfortunately, it is a clean installation. I read the instructions before installing and made sure I uninstalled SH3 then deleted the remaining program files and saved game files in My Documents.

I, too, thought it was odd since I could find no reference to it in GWX 3.0 and it had been fixed after 2.1. Maybe my system is haunted.

[danlisa]

Hi.

Yes, this Bug was caught in GWX 2.1, however, that was for Memel/Kiel.:hmmm:

The cause of this were the flotilla entry\exit dates for the 2 ports in question being in conflict with each other, thus putting SH3 in a loop.

In your instance it sounds like a conflict between Konigs & Kiel however, as you are the first to report this issue with GWX Gold, I must assume a file conflict with an enabled mod, corrupt file or an unchanged line in the Alternate Flotillas mod.

Believe me, when this happened in GWX 2.1, these forums were spammed with the issue.:haha:

To correct the issue, firstly I would suggest an examination of the flottila.cfg of the base GWX version & Flotilla mod (& campaign_LND.mis - not sure about this one) version. See if any of the dates differ for the ports in question.

Secondly, a MD5 check of your GWX install files. Just to be safe.

Lastly, SH3's message system is rather odd. A 'rollback' to a previous save or disabling a MOD usually will not prevent SH3 spamming you with the same info. You get the same occurance when you receive the 'Your base has been changed to X' popup.:damn: Perhaps a test would be to create a new career near the same date and see if they re-occur.

[tenakha]

In order to avoid this problem, during your first patrol, on the 4th of august 1939, you will receive a message advising players of the 7th flotilla to return to koningsberg and then transfer to either the 2nd or 1st flotilla, so your second patrol should not be from the 7th.

The fisrt time i started a carrier in GWX 3.0 I had the exact same problem you described, using the above mensionned work around is in my limited knowledge the only way, you of course have the possiblity to transfer back to the 7th flotilla before your third patrol (that's what I did).

[Contact]

In order to avoid this problem, during your first patrol, on the 4th of august 1939, you will receive a message advising players of the 7th flotilla to return to koningsberg and then transfer to either the 2nd or 1st flotilla, so your second patrol should not be from the 7th.


Never made that transfer and never got any problems with that I can tell.. :)

[Crunch Troll]

In order to avoid this problem, during your first patrol, on the 4th of august 1939, you will receive a message advising players of the 7th flotilla to return to koningsberg and then transfer to either the 2nd or 1st flotilla, so your second patrol should not be from the 7th.

That is what I did to get around the issue. Since I was patrolling AO98 (in the arch to the west of Konigsberg, containing Danzig), I had to kill a couple of days (patrol started Aug 01 and took less than 6 hours to reach my patrol area). Once the message came, I returned to port and did the transfer.

The fisrt time i started a carrier in GWX 3.0 I had the exact same problem you described, using the above mensionned work around is in my limited knowledge the only way, you of course have the possiblity to transfer back to the 7th flotilla before your third patrol (that's what I did).I will be transferring back to the 7th soon as I like St. Nazaire compared to the other French ports. But likely not before the Type IXs are available to 2nd.

[Crunch Troll]

Hi.

Yes, this Bug was caught in GWX 2.1, however, that was for Memel/Kiel.:hmmm:

The cause of this were the flotilla entry\exit dates for the 2 ports in question being in conflict with each other, thus putting SH3 in a loop.

That is what I figured based on the threads I read from GWX 2.1 and since I could find no threads for GWX 3.0.

In your instance it sounds like a conflict between Konigs & Kiel however, as you are the first to report this issue with GWX Gold, I must assume a file conflict with an enabled mod, corrupt file or an unchanged line in the Alternate Flotillas mod.Again, that is what I figured.

Believe me, when this happened in GWX 2.1, these forums were spammed with the issue.:haha:Knowing gamers, I think that is a bit of an understatement of what happened.:roll:

To correct the issue, firstly I would suggest an examination of the flottila.cfg of the base GWX version & Flotilla mod (& campaign_LND.mis - not sure about this one) version. See if any of the dates differ for the ports in question.I do not write code for anything (even though I do computer technical support) but in my limited knowledge I should be able to view the code using something as simple as Notepad.

Secondly, a MD5 check of your GWX install files. Just to be safe.Did that when I downloaded the files but used the md5 text file included. Heck I even read the installation instructions before I downloaded the expansion. But I should check using the md5 values on the GWX page.

Lastly, SH3's message system is rather odd. A 'rollback' to a previous save or disabling a MOD usually will not prevent SH3 spamming you with the same info. You get the same occurance when you receive the 'Your base has been changed to X' popup.:damn: Perhaps a test would be to create a new career near the same date and see if they re-occur.That is a thought. I have another career going (started in the 2nd where I transferred to for my primary career. Go figure.) But do have a generic, unused 'Player' setup (for another SH3 issue) I could use as a test.

[danlisa]

I do not write code for anything (even though I do computer technical support) but in my limited knowledge I should be able to view the code using something as simple as Notepad.

Yep, the Flotilla.cfg & Campaign_LND.mis are advanced text files, so Notepad/Wordpad will open them.

To make the task a little easier, there are comparison programs available which will highlight/list the differences between two files. An example of this is Beyond Compare (http://www.scootersoftware.com/moreinfo.php), there are also freeware versions around.

[DeadlyWolf]

Sorry for the thread necromancy but the problem is still there.
I tried to eliminate the alternative flottillas, I tried to start in September..the same results as above, an infinite spam of messages.
You are forced to dock and lose almost all the first month of the war.

Here's my mod list.
http://i.imgur.com/LCpYZyH.jpg

[DeadlyWolf]

Update: It doesn't even work when you transfer to Kiel. You still get the infinite messages of the home base being switched :|
I guess this is an unresolved bug of GWX. The only way to play the 7th is to trasfer to another flottilla and then transfer back afet the 1st of September.

[ATLeow]

I've had this issue with other aspects of the GWX campaign. My solution for you would be to transfer away from the 7th/13th like the campaign tells you to do.

[machiavelli]

The people experiencing this issue. Could you enable your mods then look in the flotilla.cfg file in Cfg folder in data folder? Look for the 7th flotilla and ensure there is no overlapping of the dates for the bases.

[DeadlyWolf]

The people experiencing this issue. Could you enable your mods then look in the flotilla.cfg file in Cfg folder in data folder? Look for the 7th flotilla and ensure there is no overlapping of the dates for the bases.
This should be the interesting part..I'm not sure what to change.

Flotilla2=904
TO2=940
NbStartingDate2=7
NbDate2=7
Emblem2=data/Emblems/SubEmblems/Flotillas/7th flotilla.tga
NbBases2=4
Base2_0=765;Königsberg
Date2_0_0=1939
Month2_0_0=8
Date2_0_1=1939
Month2_0_1=9
DeparturePointLong2_0=2446551.000000
DeparturePointLat2_0=6560480.000000
Heading2_0=335.051331
Base2_1=750;Kiel
Date2_1_0=1939
Month2_1_0=9
Date2_1_1=1940
Month2_1_1=8
DeparturePointLong2_1=1218360.000000
DeparturePointLat2_1=6521927.000000
Heading2_1=89.000000
Base2_2=754;St. Nazaire
Date2_2_0=1940
Month2_2_0=9
Date2_2_1=1944
Month2_2_1=7
DeparturePointLong2_2=-286409.000000
DeparturePointLat2_2=5673433.000000
Heading2_2=180.000000
Base2_3=764;Trondheim
Date2_3_0=1944
Month2_3_0=8
Date2_3_1=1945
Month2_3_1=5
DeparturePointLong2_3=1244910.000000
DeparturePointLat2_3=7612441.000000
Heading2_3=0.000000
NbUboats2=1
Uboat2_0=1

Date20=1939
Month20=8
Starting20=Yes
TypeSub20=1; VII
VersionSub20=0; B
iNbName20=3
Name200=U-50
Name201=U-52
Name202=U-53
T0_200=60
T0_201=80
T2_200=15
T2_201=20
PlayerStartRenown20=1000

Jan2000=0
Jan2001=0
Jan2002=0
Jan2003=0
Jan2004=0

Febr2000=0
Febr2001=0
Febr2002=0
Febr2003=0
Febr2004=0

March2000=0
March2001=0
March2002=0
March2003=0
March2004=0

April2000=0
April2001=0
April2002=0
April2003=0
April2004=0

May2000=0
May2001=0
May2002=0
May2003=0
May2004=0

June2000=0
June2001=0
June2002=0
June2003=0
June2004=0

July2000=0
July2001=0
July2002=0
July2003=0
July2004=0

Aug2000=AO98
Aug2001=AO98
Aug2002=AO98
Aug2003=AO98
Aug2004=AO98

Sept2000=AN47
Sept2001=AN56
Sept2002=AN81
Sept2003=AF87
Sept2004=AN41

Oct2000=AN26
Oct2001=AN34
Oct2002=AN59
Oct2003=AN44
Oct2004=AN84

Nov2000=AN21
Nov2001=AN49
Nov2002=AN26
Nov2003=AN52
Nov2004=AN82

Dec2000=AN47
Dec2001=AN56
Dec2002=AN81
Dec2003=AN49
Dec2004=AN18

Jan2010=0
Jan2011=0
Jan2012=0
Jan2013=0
Jan2014=0

Febr2010=0
Febr2011=0
Febr2012=0
Febr2013=0
Febr2014=0

March2010=0
March2011=0
March2012=0
March2013=0
March2014=0

April2010=0
April2011=0
April2012=0
April2013=0
April2014=0

May2010=0
May2011=0
May2012=0
May2013=0
May2014=0

June2010=0
June2011=0
June2012=0
June2013=0
June2014=0

July2010=0
July2011=0
July2012=0
July2013=0
July2014=0

Aug2010=AO98
Aug2011=AO98
Aug2012=AO98
Aug2013=AO98
Aug2014=AO98

Sept2010=AM24
Sept2011=AM18
Sept2012=AL36
Sept2013=BF17
Sept2014=BE96

Oct2010=AN41
Oct2011=AN11
Oct2012=BF19
Oct2013=BF44
Oct2014=AM79

Nov2010=AM13
Nov2011=AM51
Nov2012=BE33
Nov2013=BF13
Nov2014=CG11

Dec2010=AM25
Dec2011=AM41
Dec2012=BF11
Dec2013=BF48
Dec2014=AM53

Jan2020=0
Jan2021=0
Jan2022=0
Jan2023=0
Jan2024=0

Febr2020=0
Febr2021=0
Febr2022=0
Febr2023=0
Febr2024=0

March2020=0
March2021=0
March2022=0
March2023=0
March2024=0

April2020=0
April2021=0
April2022=0
April2023=0
April2024=0

May2020=0
May2021=0
May2022=0
May2023=0
May2024=0

June2020=0
June2021=0
June2022=0
June2023=0
June2024=0

July2020=0
July2021=0
July2022=0
July2023=0
July2024=0

Aug2020=AO98
Aug2021=AO98
Aug2022=AO98
Aug2023=AO98
Aug2024=AO98

Sept2020=AM25
Sept2021=AM29
Sept2022=BF11
Sept2023=BF47
Sept2024=BE67

Oct2020=AE88
Oct2021=AM16
Oct2022=BF14
Oct2023=BE39
Oct2024=BE83

Nov2020=AN26
Nov2021=AM24
Nov2022=AM41
Nov2023=AM78
Nov2024=BE35

Dec2020=BF44
Dec2021=BE68
Dec2022=BE94
Dec2023=AM77
Dec2024=AM25

[HW3]

It looks to me like you would have to change under Kiel, Month2_1_0=9 to Month2_1_0=10, so it doesn't overlap with the Konigsberg end date of Month2_0_1=9. I say that because I am unsure if you can have a base start and end date both be in the same month.:hmmm:

:subsim:

[DeadlyWolf]

It looks to me like you would have to change under Kiel, Month2_1_0=9 to Month2_1_0=10, so it doesn't overlap with the Konigsberg end date of Month2_0_1=9. I say that because I am unsure if you can have a base start and end date both be in the same month.:hmmm:

:subsim:
Yes that was my conclusion too, I will test It.
I just hope that while being in Konigsberg in September the game will give me proper objectives (and accrding to the file It should, with the AN grid :))

[HW3]

I should have looked at my flottille.cfg file first.:/\\!!:oops:

Flotilla2=904
TO2=940
NbStartingDate2=7
NbDate2=7
Emblem2=data/Emblems/SubEmblems/Flotillas/7th flotilla.tga
NbBases2=4
Base2_0=765;Königsberg
Date2_0_0=1939
Month2_0_0=7
Date2_0_1=1939
Month2_0_1=8
DeparturePointLong2_0=2446551.000000
DeparturePointLat2_0=6560480.000000
Heading2_0=335.051331
Base2_1=750;Kiel
Date2_1_0=1939
Month2_1_0=9
Date2_1_1=1940
Month2_1_1=8

Try this out and see what happens.:hmmm:

[DeadlyWolf]

It worked :)

To make things simpler I started (via sh3 commander) the 1st of September, and I was directly in Kiel with the 7th flotilla :) (I was given the bf17 sector)

Thx for the support ^^

I also noted even sh3 commander have that date:
http://i.imgur.com/fEvbirQ.jpg

[HW3]

Your welcome! It has been along time since I started a career in the 7th from August 39. This problem has prodded to do so now to see what happens.:yep:

:subsim:

[skbak]

Sorry if I'm necroing this thread, but I'm having multiple messages coming in that my base was Changed to Konigsberg and then to Kiel. It keeps sending these messages multiple times per minute.

Running GWX 3.0, date is September 5 39

[Steve Gad]

When 39 Sept 01 0000 rolled around, I started getting messages about base changes alternating Kiel and Konigsberg at a rate of about 8 per minute.


If any further information is required, just ask and I will do what I can.

A full EIGHT years later and I am having the same problem, although I'm sure the solution will be in this thread somewhere. I just wanted to let you know you were not alone. I hope you get the message and haven't been sunk, or retired by now. Eight years is a long time to still be on patrol, I know, but maybe you got lucky and are still out there. I am, of course. :yeah:

[Buhring]

that is the first time that I've heard of an error with the description you gave.

I am having the same problem moving from Konigsberg to Kiel at the beginning of the war. Luckily I see it only a couple of times at the beginning of each game session.

[divemonkie]

I should have looked at my flottille.cfg file first.:/\\!!:oops:

Flotilla2=904
TO2=940
NbStartingDate2=7
NbDate2=7
Emblem2=data/Emblems/SubEmblems/Flotillas/7th flotilla.tga
NbBases2=4
Base2_0=765;Königsberg
Date2_0_0=1939
Month2_0_0=7
Date2_0_1=1939
Month2_0_1=8
DeparturePointLong2_0=2446551.000000
DeparturePointLat2_0=6560480.000000
Heading2_0=335.051331
Base2_1=750;Kiel
Date2_1_0=1939
Month2_1_0=9
Date2_1_1=1940
Month2_1_1=8

Try this out and see what happens.:hmmm:

Thank you, I was just having this same issue, all better now.
I do have another problem that persist. when I send a report the only response I get is the date and "Radio Message From BDU To U-32" that all, no "good Job" or "Maintain Radio Silence" Shouldn't I be getting something back. when I send contact reports I get nothing back. Would be nice to hear from BDU.

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[Olamagato]

Has someone run into this issue with GWX 3.0 and more importantly, is there a fix?

Yes, I can confirm this problem as early as 2011. By testing two different campaigns starting from Koenigsberg in Flotilla 7 and moving to Flotilla 10 in 1942 and starting from Salamis in Flotilla 23 and moving to Flotilla 11 in 1943 to test type XXI.
In both cases, I received messages about moving to the base, which was my earlier port. Not necessarily the last. Sailing in flotilla 11 every time I left Bergen port I had a message about transit to La Spezia, and earlier being in flotilla 7 and then 10 I received messages about shipment to the port of Kiel - if I remember correctly. However, in the mission card the return port was set correctly, so it wasn't a big problem.
Initially, I thought that this was a problem related to starting the campaign before the beginning of the war, but in the case of the Greek campaign, there could be no such suspicion.
I think this also happened to other people, but they found it too trivial to inform anyone about it and report it as a bug.


[update]
Funny date post mistake.:)

[divemonkie]

Yes, I can confirm this problem as early as 2011. By testing two different campaigns starting from Koenigsberg in Flotilla 7 and moving to Flotilla 10 in 1942 and starting from Salamis in Flotilla 23 and moving to Flotilla 11 in 1943 to test type XXI.
In both cases, I received messages about moving to the base, which was my earlier port. Not necessarily the last. Sailing in flotilla 11 every time I left Bergen port I had a message about transit to La Spezia, and earlier being in flotilla 7 and then 10 I received messages about shipment to the port of Kiel - if I remember correctly. However, in the mission card the return port was set correctly, so it wasn't a big problem.
Initially, I thought that this was a problem related to starting the campaign before the beginning of the war, but in the case of the Greek campaign, there could be no such suspicion.
I think this also happened to other people, but they found it too trivial to inform anyone about it and report it as a bug.


[update]
Funny date post mistake.:)

When you send a patrol report or contacts report what messages do they send back?

[Olamagato]

Correct answers. The information about the port change comes from the GUI at patrol startup, not from reports.