New Paintjob..no more improved sonar

[one]

I am not sure if this is supposed to happen but after a mission in 8-44 I was automatically sent for a refit. A new paint job to be exact.

After the refit I was in the upgrade screen and noticed that my upgraded deckgun, upgraded AA guns, both radars, and my upgraded passive sonar were set back to stock.

I was able to upgrade everything (which cost renown) except for the passive sonar upgrade which was no longer available.

I feel like this is the opposite of a refit. Is there a way to choose not to get a refit? I'll take my improved sonar and the renown I could have used to buy hydrogen peroxide torpedoes instead of a paint job.

[Armistead]

Did it give you a choice? I think it usually does, but as I recall I once got a refit of my con tower late 44 in a Gato that I kept throughout the war and had no say in it, but I didn't lose anything. If you have the choice all you can do is go back to your save point before port and refuse the upfit.

Yep, if you take a newer sub you lose a lot of your newer equipment, which is silly. Without reknown, you're stuck without it. My guess is it's just something TMO didn't change. Like they would send a newer class sub out to sea with WWI equipment or none at all.

[one]

Nope it didn't give me a choice. Just your submarine has been given a refit MS-blahblahblah which is a new paint job.

Ah well I guess I just have to live with it.

[Armistead]

Nope it didn't give me a choice. Just your submarine has been given a refit MS-blahblahblah which is a new paint job.

Ah well I guess I just have to live with it.


I seldom make it to 44. I play if I die, I start over. Stinks they do a paint job upfit. I do know everytime I get a new sub I had to buy all the extra's.
So now I stock up on plenty reknown. When I do get to where I can buy the powerful torps, I like to fill up. Sadly, that's why I'll harbor rape once in awhile at Truk...

[Webster]

its got to be hard coded because its such a major gripe i have to believe the great modding talent around here would have fixed it if it could be done.

[Morpheus]

So, you are the red dragon :yeah:

There is an interesting story from WWII, somewhat apocryphal in nature, that humorously illustrates the destructive nature of seawater. Be forewarned that although verified to be true, as with any sea story some of the “facts” may have been stretched and distorted by inebriated sailors during its many retellings.

The USS Seadragon (SS-194) was under the command of LCDR W.E. “Pete” Ferrall on 08 December 1941 when Japanese forces attacked Cavite in the Philippines. Moored alongside the USS Sealion (SS-195) and undergoing overhaul at the time, she was not hit in the attack, but received shrapnel damage from bombs that fatally damaged the Sealion. Heat from the explosions blistered the paint on her starboard side. In the ensuing days she quickly made repairs and got underway for Java.

Over the next several months, Ferrall and the Seadragon were kept constantly on the move conducting aggressive anti-shipping patrols and running special missions back and forth to the Philippines. Operating out of several different ports in Java and Australia, there was little time to conduct proper maintenance and many items of concern had to be put by the wayside. One of these items was paint. In mid January 1942, surfacing after a depth charge attack, the crew noticed that the black paint she normally wore was flaking off in large splotches, revealing the red primer underneath. There was little that could be done at the time and the ‘Dragon stayed on patrol and continued to push back against the Japanese, paint job be damned.

Towards the end of her 2nd patrol, sometime in late March, strange reports began circulating on the air that really mystified the whole Navy, especially the normally reticent Submarine Service. Radio Tokyo, along with its infamous mouthpiece Tokyo Rose boldly announced that the U.S. Navy was contravening the rules of civilized warfare by unleashing a fleet of red pirate submarines on the South China Sea. These “Red Pirates” as she called them would be hunted down and exterminated by the forces of Imperial Japan. “Death to the Red Submarines!” became a Tokyo Rose rallying cry.

While the rest of the Navy scratched their heads and wondered what the heck ol’ Rose was talking about, the crew of the Seadragon were laughing hysterically! It was them! By that time the boat was in full lobster red mode. Her basic black had all but completely shed itself and the red primer announced her presence rather garishly. Apparently during her forays she had been spotted several times by the Japanese and her unusual paint job had left a deep impression on the enemy.

Being the Navy’s sole red submarine was actually quite a liability and Ferrall ordered a return to the basic black at the next opportunity. By this time, though, the legend of the “Red Dragon of the South China Sea” had been firmly established.

[JREX53]

Ducimus has completed a fix for the problem.

Check in the Trigger Maru Thread in the Mod Section
See post number 1127. (page 57)

[Armistead]

I haven't loaded the fix yet, but I think it just fixes the JP sonar, not losing all your equipment with an upfit.

[JREX53]

Directly from the hotfix in the TM thread.


1. Fixed typo in equpiment upgrades that prevented JP sonar from being available throughout 1944. This was most noticeable after getting a refit and the sonar disappearing for no apparent reasons.