A Couple Of Issues

[Folducker]

I guess it's possible to be spotted from the air, bombed and sunk even thou you are at periscope depth? I sunk 37,000 tons using all torpedoes and was waiting for the destination indicator on the map to turn gray so I could go home. Cruising around during daylight hours, at periscope depth on high time compression, lots of planes coming and going, next thing I know I am sunk???

When you hit a ship with two or three torp’s and it goes dead in the water but doesn't sink. Do you have to hang around and either put another fish in it or surface and take it out with the deck gun to get credit?

What means it when you give an order, and you get an "unable to comply?" message. I had a convoy all lined up and nothing. Looked like the crew was taking a nap.

I read somewhere that there is an indicator that tells you how much noise your boat is making but I can't seem to find it. Is it a mod?

So far I am really enjoying playing, want to get through my first career before I start adding realism or mods.
Thanks

[AVGWarhawk]

Yes, planes can bomb you while at PS depth. Possible you hit a mine also.

'Can not comply' usually means you left your men at battlestation to long and they do go to sleep.

I hang around until the ship is sunk. I believe you have to be in visual distance to get credit.

No noise indicator in SH4.

[Munchausen]

Yes, planes can bomb you while at PS depth.

:o Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.

[Folducker]

:o Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.

I was in deep water, but the scope was up.

I now have a huge passenger ship that I am shadowing. The only thing I can do is shell it from the surface. Used up all but 9 rounds of HE, switching to AP. Multiple hits, I slowed it down and some smoke but I don't think I will sink it before running out of 4.5" ammo. (Used up a bunch earlier on a large transport). I don't want to get too close, had a nasty surprise on the previous patrol. I had to drive to avoid aircraft but it's getting dark so THAT shouldn't be a problem. I guess ramming it isn't an option?:damn:

[Webster]

make sure your shooting at or below waterline or shells do no good so long range shelling is not a good idea if you can help it.

if ship is disabled pull right up to the bow so your in line with its bow and then surface so deck guns cant reach you and you can finish it in safety

but submerge as it starts flooding or guns will be able to get to you as it sinks.

[Folducker]

make sure your shooting at or below waterline or shells do no good so long range shelling is not a good idea if you can help it.

if ship is disabled pull right up to the bow so your in line with its bow and then surface so deck guns cant reach you and you can finish it in safety

but submerge as it starts flooding or guns will be able to get to you as it sinks.

I never thought of that one. Great idea.
I can't help but to comment on your Sig. A guy who I tolerated when he was a kid did me a favor when he grew up that today is worth about 350K.

[Webster]

I never thought of that one. Great idea.
I can't help but to comment on your Sig. A guy who I tolerated when he was a kid did me a favor when he grew up that today is worth about 350K.

it only works at the bow because its real high so at the stern then can always get you.


one drawback to this tactic of getting close is ships can explode and kill you with the concushion so tankers i wouldnt use he rounds on and use discretion if its burning it may explode so you have to judge each situation if its safe to get close

[MonTana_Prussian]

:o Especially if you've left your periscope up. Not a good thing to do ... especially in shallow water.


They can get you with the scope down too. When I pick up an aicraft on the SD radar,I go to 80 feet,and have never been attacked by an aircaft at that depth.

[Akula4745]

Montana and I think alike! Too many times I have seen from the free camera that at periscope depth the sub is showing in between waves (especially in rough seas). 80 feet is my normal on evading aircraft detection... what with all my long term experience with the game. LOL (sorry... couldn't resist)

[MonTana_Prussian]

It took me some time to figure out the right depth to avoid air attack. Not too shallow,not too deep...:know:

[Peto]

Montana and I think alike! Too many times I have seen from the free camera that at periscope depth the sub is showing in between waves (especially in rough seas). 80 feet is my normal on evading aircraft detection... what with all my long term experience with the game. LOL (sorry... couldn't resist)

You strike me as a fast learner :03:.

[Armistead]

Wait until you load a mod and have evil planes pop you at 150 ft or more. TMO mod has some mean planes. I once got damaged at 200 ft.

Web is right, aim below the water line..I prefer near the stacks, but then spread some out for wider damage radius.

[Rockin Robbins]

Welcome to Subsim, Folducker! Sounds like you're doing things just right and all your questions are answered. When you're ready to REALLY jump in the water over your head and try manual targeting you are invited to the Submarine Skippers' Bag of Tricks thread where a motely crew of instructors await your pleasure.:arrgh!:

[MonTana_Prussian]

Wait until you load a mod and have evil planes pop you at 150 ft or more. TMO mod has some mean planes. I once got damaged at 200 ft.

Web is right, aim below the water line..I prefer near the stacks, but then spread some out for wider damage radius.


Maybe TMO is different,but I run RFB,and have never been attacked below 75 feet. Maybe I'm just lucky,but there ya go:DL

[Webster]

Maybe TMO is different,but I run RFB,and have never been attacked below 75 feet. Maybe I'm just lucky,but there ya go:DL


yep, in TMO all planes are elite and rarely miss you.

they can sometimes see you at 150ft just like if you were on surface if water conditions are right. Ducimus has some evil badass airplanes lol.

[MonTana_Prussian]

yep, in TMO all planes are elite and rarely miss you.

they can sometimes see you at 150ft just like if you were on surface if water conditions are right. Ducimus has some evil badass airplanes lol.


That bseems a bit much,but in RFB I was attacked at 75ft,so I tried 80,actually 82ft,and have not been bothered:D

[Akula4745]

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200. Sorry but that doesn't seem right to me either. Is TMO supposed to be a realistic sim? Or just an extra difficult one? Or would it ever be possible to spot a sub that deep in real life from the surface? Correct me if I am wrong but it just doesn't seem right... you cannot see a white sandy bottom 150 feet down!

Akula4745

[Folducker]

In the real world, spotting a sub at 150 feet would be tough. Being able to see it so clearly that you could tell which way it was going and how deep it was would be just as difficult. Spotting the sub, figuring where to place your weapons and actually being able to hit it should be almost impossible. Of course, that wouldn't apply to a P-3 with ASW Torpedoes.

I remember seeing a photo of a U-Boat at periscope depth taken from a B-24 just before killing it. The caption said that the weather and sea conditions had to be just right or they would have missed it.

The one bad thing that I have noticed so far is transiting with high time compression on the surface. On the way home, I found my self suddenly in the middle of a convoy, surrounded by escorts and promptly damaged so badly that diving was a one way trip down. Thankfully I had saved the game before leaving the patrol area. Gotta be careful until getting past Midway.

[MonTana_Prussian]

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200. Sorry but that doesn't seem right to me either. Is TMO supposed to be a realistic sim? Or just an extra difficult one? Or would it ever be possible to spot a sub that deep in real life from the surface? Correct me if I am wrong but it just doesn't seem right... you cannot see a white sandy bottom 150 feet down!

Akula4745

I don't really know much about TMO. I did try it,but prefer RFB,but that's personal choice I guess.

[Akula4745]

I will definitely be going with RFB, Montana!

[Jan Kyster]

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200...Somewhere I have reports of RAF pilots seing U-boats at 90 meters depth in Norway. That's 295 feet...
I don't recall the numbers from the Pacific, but there is a thread somewhere... :ping:

[Akula4745]

That is nothing short of amazing...

[MonTana_Prussian]

Somewhere I have reports of RAF pilots seing U-boats at 90 meters depth in Norway. That's 295 feet...
I don't recall the numbers from the Pacific, but there is a thread somewhere... :ping:

That's pretty hard to believe,spotting a sub at that depth. :shifty:

[Akula4745]

My thoughts exactly, Montana!