[REL] Turm Emblems Your Way! [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

Madox58

03-27-09, 05:17 PM

And if it starts getting called TEYW?
I'll stop makeing them!
:haha:

One of the biggest problems with Emblems on the Turms
has always been the limits.

No more Mates!
You now will have nearly unlimited customization ability on them.

Where and what you want is now possible.

I started on this over a year ago.
I was never happy with the first test releases for several reasons.

Most users are confussed when multiple files and file placements
are needed.

Introduceing new nameing and placement stuff throws dirt in most users faces.

If a mod is hard to use?
Support is even harder for Me.

This Mod solves 90% of the problems.
But gives 100% results!

First up will be the 7C_1 Turm.

It will be released tonite with a Demo U-407 Emblem.
(Done my way)

At that time I will edit this post.

For your viewing pleasure?
Here's the Demo U-407

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/Shameless.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/Shameless2.jpg

Here's the link.
Sorry for the delay.

I'll be posting a better 'How To Create My Emblem'
ASAP.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=746

Reece

03-28-09, 08:27 AM

That's great Privateer, with this be ok with GWX 2.1 files?:D

nikbear

03-28-09, 09:06 AM

Really looking forward to this,hope its compatible with GWX2.1 and easy to use:yeah:

Jimbuna

03-28-09, 11:40 AM

I'd have thought you two buggers would have been on GWX3.0 for a good while now :hmmm:

nikbear

03-28-09, 12:37 PM

All D/L'd And ready to go,just want to finish the career's that I have outstanding with 2.1 and I shall move on,if they don't finish me first that is:salute::wah::doh::nope: There are times with this game when I could quite cheerfully chuck this PC through a window and never care:damn: You know Jim,there aren't enough of those frustration smilies,this game really does require more:03:

Desga

03-28-09, 12:51 PM

Fantastic !! tuning submarine !!:har:

Madox58

03-28-09, 01:28 PM

This should work for most any version or Super Mod.
I've tested it in Stock SH3 and it works fine there.
Also tested in GWX 2.0 and up.

This is an early release and some other
'little things' will be added in the future.
:03:

How to make your own Emblem.
:hmmm:

In the Documents folder you'll find a TGA file.
7C_1_base.tga

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/7C_1_base.jpg

The Grey areas are the Paintable areas.

This next image shows what goes where.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/7C_1a.jpg

Note that you DO NOT need to type backwards!

Once you've painted those areas as you see fit
Flood Fill the Black area as shown below.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/Flood_Fill.jpg

And save as a tga useing a new name of your chooseing.

Place this new file in the data/Emblems/SubEmblems folder.

Then select it in game as your emblem.

I'm not a Graphics guy so the Demo tga and such are pretty
Lame.
:nope:

I expect the Great Skinner Guys will create some wild stuff!
:yeah:

nikbear

03-28-09, 01:53 PM

Now this really is a challenge for the skinning guys,a whole new tool for them to use!Wonderful privateer:salute::salute::salute:,great things will come with this:yeah:

danlisa

03-28-09, 02:20 PM

Ideas! As the 7C_1_base.tga is only a graphics file, it can be replaced and updated before/during patrol, with no ill effects during game.....*off to make some Warship, Merchant & AC markers*

:yeah::yeah: Nice one bud.

Madox58

03-28-09, 02:55 PM

Exactly one of my thoughts on 'Scoreing Marks'
:yeah:

You can now add your 'Kills' any way you want.
And you can Weather the Turm as your game progresses.

Got jumped by Aircraft?
Add a few patches to fix the Bullet holes.

The things that you can do now are limited
only by your imagination.

The 7B_1 Turm is in progress now.
:yep:

Jimbuna

03-28-09, 05:16 PM

TheDudTorpedo

03-28-09, 05:21 PM

Thats great - thanks Privateer :)

Madox58

03-28-09, 08:22 PM

The 7B_1 turm is nearly ready.
:up:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/7B_1Turm.jpg

Torplexed

03-28-09, 10:46 PM

Soooo. Does this mean I finally get to take a nurse to sea with me? :D

http://pyxis.homestead.com/NeedaNurse.jpg

http://neptoon.homestead.com/Nurse.jpg

Castout

03-28-09, 11:14 PM

Torplexed I think it's the nurse who is taking you to the sea :haha:

Oneshot/Onekill

03-30-09, 06:20 AM

Wow this is really interesting. I have always wondered if someone would come up with a way to move emblems to the front.:yeah:

Madox58

03-30-09, 08:02 PM

With a little 'Shameless' pilfering of images?
:)
The Type 7B's are ready.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=864

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/Shameless-1.jpg

This is the 7B base Emblem.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/7B_base.jpg

And here's the example Emblem when done.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/7B_example.jpg

Reece

03-31-09, 08:44 AM

Thanks Privateer, now all I have to do is get the time to use it!!:salute:

TarJak

03-31-09, 03:14 PM

C'mon Reece hurry up!

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4304.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4276.jpg

Mind you Its not been easy.

Reece

03-31-09, 06:28 PM

Hey you beat me with U-552 Tarjak!! I was saving that for the VIIC :x:oops: (don't you dare use this smiley:O: on me)

Torplexed

03-31-09, 08:15 PM

Shameless pilfering works for me. :yeah:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Sub/Shameless-1.jpg

Kptlt. Neuerburg

04-01-09, 12:01 AM

Can someone make a tutoral for this? I want to make my own turm emblem!

TarJak

04-01-09, 01:18 AM

Hey you beat me with U-552 Tarjak!! I was saving that for the VIIC :x:oops: (don't you dare use this smiley:O: on me)OK :woot:

Beat you with U-48 as well :O:

Got the placement etc from these photos: http://www.iol.ie/~hofnanet/pages/U48.html

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4317.jpg

Madox58

04-01-09, 04:57 PM

Can someone make a tutoral for this? I want to make my own turm emblem!

The basics are here.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1073821&postcount=7

You'll need a program that handles tga files.
Like PaintShop, Gimp, etc.

I pilfer images and do a copy and paste.
But I'm not a Graphics Wizard on the Computer.
(Hand me an AirBrush and I'm Killer!)

I expect Danlisa, SWCowboy, WolfHunter, and the other Graphics
Guys will have a field day with this soon.
Tarjak is doing some Historic Emblems.
Maybe he'll do some releases.
:hmmm:

LordNeuro"Serbia"

04-01-09, 05:12 PM

The basics are here.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1073821&postcount=7

You'll need a program that handles tga files.
Like PaintShop, Gimp, etc.

I pilfer images and do a copy and paste.
But I'm not a Graphics Wizard on the Computer.
(Hand me an AirBrush and I'm Killer!)

I expect Danlisa, SWCowboy, WolfHunter, and the other Graphics
Guys will have a field day with this soon.
Tarjak is doing some Historic Emblems.
Maybe he'll do some releases.
:hmmm:
R u model maker privateer?
Like revell and ather stuff?:06:
hmmmmmm if so show same work.:up:

Madox58

04-01-09, 05:38 PM

R u model maker privateer?
Like revell and ather stuff?:06:
hmmmmmm if so show same work.:up:

No,
I stopped doing plastic models years ago.
:nope:

I'm working on plans for a Covered Bridge that I'll make with real
wood and such now.
:hmmm:

It will be around 3 foot long.

It's based on the Bridges found in my area.
http://serbian.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/v/Vanana/127.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Me-Again.jpg

One of the Companies I do work for restores them from time to time.

I only Air Brush MotorCycles now, from time to time.
I'll dig up some photos and scan them if you'd like.

LordNeuro"Serbia"

04-01-09, 06:37 PM

Shore if u have spere time. I only dont know wenn u make it all.:hmmm:
Keep up the gr8 work and thx for replay.:up:
Cheers

TarJak

04-01-09, 09:56 PM

Tarjak is doing some Historic Emblems.
Maybe he'll do some releases.
:hmmm:He will when he's had enough time to create enough to make it worth releasing them.

Are you planning to do turms for the II, IX, and XXI boats as well? If so then I was thinking of putting together a single pack that loads up all the turms and a bunch of historic (and maybe some non-historic) emblems. Gimme time and I'll get something together.

Biggest problem with the historic emblems is the lack of data as to positioning. the more famous boats are easy cos there a lots of photo's around showing what they looked like, but some of the more obscure boats are harder to find info on what emblems went where.

The most popular positions are either side and the front top of the turm but finding out what was where on each boat is a struggle.

Madox58

04-01-09, 10:29 PM

I'm nearly done with the IIA
All Turms will be done!
Once I finish them all?
I'll wrap up a complete package for DL.

It's a complicated process that requires
editing with Notepad, Deep X 5.5, and 3DS Max.

TarJak

04-02-09, 01:50 AM

OK as you UL the turms, I'll DL them and start working on the historic pack. There are plenty to do with the VIIC & VIIB so work has started but it will be a slow process as I need to find some reference that gives and indication of the location and content for each sub.

I've got the book by Georg Hagel whcih provides all of the known emblems, however some boats had an emblem for only one patrol then it was painted over, and the book unfortunately doesn't have a lot of information as to where on the turm they were.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bAD%2BKznEL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

I've got good quality scans of a few hundred of the more than 1000 emblem drawings but some of these need to be coloured which is hard from black and white images. If anyone has any photo's that show emblem locations I'd be grateful of getting a look at them to do what I can. i was thinking of do a release when I've got about 20 of the top scoring boats done that I can find source materials on emblem locations.

The 3 I done so far were done specifically because they were not side of the turm emblems and I wanted to see what could be done with this great mod of yours. Thanks for doing it.:salute:

Torplexed

04-02-09, 02:34 AM

Great job on this mod privateer. :up: I guess I'll get around to some historical emblems eventually. For now I'll rely on the cartoon babes on the conning tower to distract the enemy. :D

http://neptoon.homestead.com/SH3screenshot.jpg

Madox58

04-02-09, 04:17 PM

I'll get all the Turms adjusted for this.
Then go back and adjust reflections on them all.

If anyone knows what I need to look at for the
Image in the Upgrade screen?

I'd be thankful for the info.

I also plan to add a placement Node to the Turms so you can
add Stuff like Plaques and Life Rings.
Or a Christmas wreath if you wish to.
:haha:

And Emblems on the AI Subs
would be nice.

Pvt.Godfrey

04-03-09, 08:30 AM

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2551/shot1238762040.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot1238762040.jpg)

Can anybody tell me what i'm doing wrong here. I have enabled the mod with JSGME and when i select the demo Turm i get this. I am using the VIIC with Turm 1. I've tryed changing resolutions, disabling various mods but i still get the same results. I created a couple of my own emblems with Gimp but it still looks exactly like the image above. I cant see the wood for the trees here so can anybody please help.

Lzs von swe

04-03-09, 11:58 AM

Well, whatever you are doing wrong I am doing it too:hmmm:
I get the exact same result, sadly.
The stock emblems still work.

Madox58

04-03-09, 02:42 PM

When the 7c_1 Turm is the only Turm available,
the Game is grabbing the Turm7c_8 info.
:nope:

Here's the fix.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=971

Lzs von swe

04-03-09, 04:04 PM

privateer support department working fast:yeah:

I´m at sea for the next couple of weeks (game time) but will apply the fix asap.
Now, is it better to replace the data folder in ..7C_1 with the one in ..7C_8 or to load both mods with JSGME?

Pvt.Godfrey

04-03-09, 05:44 PM

Thanks Privateer.....Working fine now.

Madox58

04-03-09, 06:04 PM

Tarjak noted the Turm was not working several days ago
and PM'd me.

I just had to chase it down.

Enable the 7C_8 and the 7C_1 and the 7C_1 shows properly.
When I finish a few more Turms
I'll put them together so all Turms are enabled
at the same time.

The Game should not be useing the 7C_8 Turm info,
as it's for AI Units.
Go figure, eh?

This means I'll most likely have to do all the AI Turms as I do the Player Turms.
I had planned on doing them last.

TarJak

04-03-09, 07:57 PM

I've just uploaded my VIIB Historic Turms pack for use with this mod. It includes the VIIB Turm Your Way mod so you don't have to install everything separately.

The mod has all the known emblems for 20 of the 24 Type VIIB boats. 4 Boats either had no emblem or there is no existing data on what the emblems were.

Placement is historic where information was available.

Enjoy

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=975

Oneshot/Onekill

04-03-09, 08:22 PM

No,
I stopped doing plastic models years ago.
:nope:

I'm working on plans for a Covered Bridge that I'll make with real
wood and such now.
:hmmm:

It will be around 3 foot long.

It's based on the Bridges found in my area.
http://serbian.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/v/Vanana/127.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Me-Again.jpg

One of the Companies I do work for restores them from time to time.

I only Air Brush MotorCycles now, from time to time.
I'll dig up some photos and scan them if you'd like.

Hey that bridge looks alot like the one that was in the movie Beetlejuice.
You know the part where Geena Davis and Alec Baldwin crash into the side of it and fall into the water below.:haha:

Now we all know who was really behind the sceens.:rock:

Onkel Neal

04-03-09, 08:50 PM

Nice job, Jeff :up:

Kpt. Lehmann

04-03-09, 09:32 PM

TarJak

04-04-09, 01:49 AM

In doing research for the turm emblems I've come a cross a couple of things which I've not known before. e.g. the Laughing Sawfish emblem carried by 9th FLotilla boats appears to have actually been blue and not black, green or red.

Excerpt from Georg Hogel's "U-Boat Emblems of World War II:
U-659... According to Canadian notes: "Blue swordfish" sunk 04/05/1943

And according to the book U-88 had the tower painted light blue!

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4319.jpg

TarJak

04-04-09, 07:26 AM

I've just finished uploading the first installment of VIIC/1 turm files. The pack includes 55 .TGA files which cover 35 boats. Enjoy.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=977

Jimbuna

04-04-09, 07:44 AM

Nice one TJ http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Madox58

04-04-09, 11:53 AM

Very nice work, TJ.
:salute:

And I've found a few things on those AI Turms I need to look closer at.
:hmmm:

If what I think is correct?
We may have a new patch for GWX versions that use those Turms.
:03:

Reece

04-04-09, 11:01 PM

Thanks TarJak, saved me a job!!:yeah:

TarJak

04-05-09, 12:55 AM

My pleasure. Working on part 2 of the VIIC's. There were 586 of the buggers so it will take a while to do them all. :D

MLF

04-05-09, 12:19 PM

I am trying to download from subsim, but get "ERROR: File not found." When I try againI am told to slow down :cry:

Is the file server down?

MLF

nikbear

04-05-09, 01:03 PM

Same here,:doh:

Jimbuna

04-05-09, 01:11 PM

It looks like a temporary server error.....grab it from here:

http://files.filefront.com/Turm+VIIC+1+Historic7z/;13538798;/fileinfo.html

nikbear

04-05-09, 02:12 PM

Thanks Jim:yeah:

MLF

04-05-09, 02:35 PM

Thanks Jim.

Regards

MLF

MLF

04-05-09, 02:58 PM

Jimbuna

04-05-09, 04:10 PM

No problem guys.....but the thanks are due to Privateer and TJ.

Here is the 7b link:

http://files.filefront.com/Turm+7B+Historic7z/;13538776;/fileinfo.html

Reece

04-05-09, 06:56 PM

Good on ya Jim, lucky your not here or I'd kiss ya!!:yeah:

TarJak

04-05-09, 09:31 PM

And thank you Tarjak. I have been searching the Internet for a red sea turtle for U203 - and you had already done it!:yeah:

At the moment it only appears on one side of the tower but easily rectified.

Thank you.

MMLFNP MLF. The info I had was that the turtle was on the starboard side only. No photo's available so I went on what was in the book. If anyone has any info on actual positioning or photo's with good shots of the emblems I'd be grateful as it will help get these as accurate as I can.

MLF

04-06-09, 02:11 AM

Tarjak

:hmmm: You are most likely right there. The only photo I've seen where the turtle was apparent was of the stbd side. The Revell model supplied 2 decals, one for each side so I assumed that was the case. I will look through the books I have when I get home (In France for 2 weeks at the moment).

Thanks

MLF

PS What does DP mean?

TarJak

04-06-09, 05:59 AM

U-203 is one of the boats where the book I mentioned above goes into a bit of detail about positioning etc. Unfortunately most of the other entries are pretty skimpy with some merely mentioning commissioning and sinking or scuttling dates and showing a black and white hand drawn image of the emblem.

Excerpt from Georg Hogel's U-Boat Emblems of WWII:
Conning tower device. The coat of arms of Essen, patron city of U-203 was painted on the front of the conning tower. Below it, Kottman's device, the Olympic Rings, was painted... On the starboard side of the conning tower was a turtle.

Pvt.Godfrey

04-06-09, 08:02 AM

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9288/u1007.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u1007.jpg)
U-1007

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2344/u753.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u753.jpg)
U-753

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7800/u716.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u716.jpg)
U-716

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7410/u665.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u665.jpg)
U-665

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5435/u616.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u616.jpg)
U-616

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4536/u587.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u587.jpg)
U-587

Since Privateer found a way of applying emblems more historically correct I have had the urge to create some emblems of my own. I have just started to learn GIMP and these are my first attempts. They are not as good as i had hoped for but they look quite good in-game. These are historically correct emblems for these boats but the colours and placement may not be correct as I only had the black and white images from U-Boataces.com to go from. In fact these emblems have been created from those images. If anyone would like them i will do a few more before uploading a small pack. I will give credit to any images i have used to the persons concerned.

nikbear

04-06-09, 09:34 AM

Pvt.Godfrey,just a thought,but you could collaborate with Tarjack and his mammoth task:03:I'm sure he'd appreciate any help with putting a historic emblem pack together:hmmm: Two heads work better than one,I have some emblems from U-boats that I have edited and they are in colour,I was thinking of sending them to TJ and seeing if he wants to use them,they are already in TGA format:06: If everyone try's to find info and picture's and emblems we could help TJ with this huge task getting the finished article out there for everyone much quicker.what do you think:yeah:

Pvt.Godfrey

04-06-09, 10:16 AM

Pvt.Godfrey

04-06-09, 10:30 AM

[http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1994/u448.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u448.jpg)
U-448

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3734/u292.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u292.jpg)
U-292

Here's a couple more that I have just done.

Jimbuna

04-06-09, 11:26 AM

Good on ya Jim, lucky your not here or I'd kiss ya!!:yeah:

Ya saucy blighter :o
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4726/hirsch07pr7.gif

TarJak

04-06-09, 09:26 PM

I'm more than willing to help in any way I can. I'm no graphics artist but maybe i can help with the editing of the Turms, Placement etc. Send me the TGA'S if you want and i'll create the emblems. As you said any help we can give Tarjak should lighten his load a bit.

Steve.Hey I'm happy if the load gets shared around a bit. My main source of pain is colouring the raw black and white images. I've got a few hundred scans out of the 1000 or so emblems and am still scanning them in hi res so that editing is easier. PM me if you want to help out.

Jimbuna

04-07-09, 03:30 AM

Hey I'm happy if the load gets shared around a bit. My main source of pain is colouring the raw black and white images. I've got a few hundred scans out of the 1000 or so emblems and am still scanning them in hi res so that editing is easier. PM me if you want to help out.

<in a lazy basum voice>

I'm sure you'll be fine....I'm doing a few of the existing ones :O:

Sailor Steve

04-07-09, 11:08 AM

Here's a silly request: I'd like to see the original numbers for the early boats. You know, nothing but the numbers?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149950

TarJak

04-07-09, 02:37 PM

Here's a silly request: I'd like to see the original numbers for the early boats. You know, nothing but the numbers?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149950
Should be relatively easy to do. as all it requires is a number to be typed on either side of the Turm. Just need the Type II turms as most of these boats were II's. The VIIB and VIIC I'll take a look at when I get some spare time.:DL

TarJak

04-09-09, 08:48 AM

Just a dumb question: Is it possible to make the turm emblems appear in the reflections without major surgery?

This is a nice pic but something is missing...:hmmm:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4345.jpg

Aces

04-09-09, 09:03 AM

Fantastic work guys, my hats off to you as usual, Privateer superb mod m8. I had some great fun with my new sub emblems last night.

I have a little question to ask, would either yourself or Recerboy mind if I experimented merging the dat files of this mod and RB's Flags and Pennants mod?, that's assuming that it's not impossible. If I am successfull then I'll post here and someone could release it as a combined mod after suitable testing with full credit given of course to both of your work. Hopefully this combined mod would include at least 7b and 7c Turms.

Cheers

Aces

TarJak

04-09-09, 09:41 AM

Here's a silly request: I'd like to see the original numbers for the early boats. You know, nothing but the numbers?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149950Looking at the commissioning dates for the subs there were only 8 Type VIIB's commissioned pre Sept 1939 (U-45 through U-53 except U-50). I'll do the VIIA's as well as they looked similar enough. When the Type II and IX turms are ready I'll take a look at the boats that were in commission pre-war.

I should be able to release a VIIB pack of pre-war numbered turms this weekend if I get time. I won;t do any VIIC's (U-69 and up),as none were in commission at the outbreak of hositilities and therefore would not have carried a number on the tower between their launch and commissioning, unless I can find some photos that prove otherwise. From what I can tell these would have only had their DAK emblems which were the ID painted on after launch by the manufacturer and worn until commissioning.

LordNeuro"Serbia"

04-09-09, 11:55 AM

Madox58

04-09-09, 09:59 PM

Currently my main system went boom.
:nope:
And I've been out of town for nearly a week so things are slow.

1st,
the reflections will be fixed ASAP.
The 2A is nearly ready and has the updated reflection.

It also will have attachment nodes.
A seperate dat will contain Life Rings and such.
That would be the best way to also add the Flags stuff.
Throw the needed files in the seperate dat.
Then call them in the eqp file.
Much easier to update the files then.
But that's just my thought.

owner20071963

04-09-09, 10:12 PM

Great Job Privateer,
Any News on that Other Object Fix,
we Asked about? :salute:

Oneshot/Onekill

04-09-09, 10:40 PM

I just want to let you guy's know your doing a spiffy job here.

Now that i've spoken, you may carry on.:D

TarJak

04-09-09, 11:28 PM

VIIB Pre-War Turms are available here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1010

This gives you the numbers painted on the side of the tower prior to the start of the war. Only VIIB boats available until the Type II turms are ready. The numbers for the type VIIA boats are included but will only appear if you use the VIIB/1 turm.

Enjoy

U-35 on route to Helgoland August 1 1939:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT4356.jpg

Urmel

04-10-09, 09:48 AM

absolutely great - thanks Privateer ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
(i think i try the nurse then http://forums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

greetings from Urmel

Sailor Steve

04-10-09, 12:03 PM

@ Tarjak: Thanks for the numbers, Grant.

@ Urmel: WELCOME ABOARD!:sunny:

Murr44

04-10-09, 02:15 PM

Forgive my ignorance but I'm currently d'ling the Turm VIIC historic pack Pt. 1 & I have the Turm7c_8_Your_Way fix. Last night I got the combined Turm 7b Your Way (with emblems included). In which order are they to be applied to get correct placement of emblems on 7c boats.

Thanks.:)

TarJak

04-10-09, 04:40 PM

It doesn't matter how you apply them. All 3 of my packs include the fix as well as privateers orginal mod so all you need to is load them using JSGME. You may get an overwrite dialog if you use both of the VIIC packs as they contain the same DAT files as each other. The are the same and it won't matter how you load them.

Madox58

04-10-09, 04:53 PM

Greetings Urmel!
Glad you like the work so far.

All the Turms will be done soon as possible.
All the reflections will be corrected also.

Plus each Turm will allow placement of things on the Turm.
Life Rings, Plaques, do-dads, whatever.
Those objects will be in a seperate dat so no
further work on the Turms themselves will need to be done.

Simply editing the eqp file will enable them.

@Murr44,

If the 7c_8 is in Tarjaks pak,
you won't need to do a seperate install.
Otherwise the order does not matter.

I'll release each Turm as I finish them.
Once all are done,
I'll do a full group so there will only be one install also.
Another thing the Full install will do is remove all the old Emblems.
Those will be placed in the Backup folder of JSGME.
Less things to wade through then.

@Owner,
Do you know what the error message is?
A screen shot would confirm my thoughts.
But I'm pretty sure I know the problem.
Untill I can re-build one of my systems?
I can not work on the fix needed.

owner20071963

04-10-09, 05:35 PM

I think I sent that full error report at the Lair? Privateer,
During testing GWX 3.0 before xmas,
If you cannot find it?
I'll do a re-run,copy the ctd Report
and send it to you if you wish.

Madox58

04-10-09, 05:39 PM

That would be great.
As I said,
I'm positive what the problem is.
But the error reported would confirm
and guide on the fix.

Thanks Mate!
:salute:

Murr44

04-10-09, 11:16 PM

@Murr44,

If the 7c_8 is in Tarjaks pak,
you won't need to do a seperate install.
Otherwise the order does not matter.

I'll release each Turm as I finish them.
Once all are done,
I'll do a full group so there will only be one install also.
Another thing the Full install will do is remove all the old Emblems.
Those will be placed in the Backup folder of JSGME.
Less things to wade through then.

Thanks to you & TarJak for these mods.:up:

A combined question: What exactly does the 7c_8 fix do & when should it be applied?

Thanks again...:)

Madox58

04-10-09, 11:30 PM

Due to conflicts with ID numbers.
The 7C_8 (which is an AI unit) interfers
with the 7C_1 Turm in Game.
Until I do another update?
Use this fix.

I'm going through all Turms to crush this type conflict.

Urmel

04-11-09, 04:58 AM

Hi Privateer and Steve

tnx for warm welcome here :salute:

now i have to figure out how this works with my new boot-class...

http://www.urech-basel.ch/sh3/avatars/signet_urmelboot_01.png (http://www.urech-basel.ch/sh3/lsh/index.html)

hmm... mabe i need another room for my nurse :rock:

best wishes from Urmel (switzerland)

TarJak

04-14-09, 07:19 AM

I've combined the VIIB and VIIC Historic turms into a single pack. This pack fixes a number of errors both in formatting and placement of emblems and covers a the VIIC's from U-69 up to U-291 so far. I'm keeping the pre-war pack separate as not everyone plays the August 1939 campaign start.

Would you guys prefer the pack to be a single DL for the whole lot or be able to pick and choose so that load times are kept down and you only load the turm type for the boat type you are playing?

I'll keep going on the next release which will continue to extend the emblems for the VIIC's as quickly as I can.

You can DL the updated pack here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1031

LGN1

04-15-09, 04:28 AM

Hi privateer,

thanks for the great work :up:

Quote:
"Plus each Turm will allow placement of things on the Turm.
Life Rings, Plaques, do-dads, whatever.
Those objects will be in a seperate dat so no
further work on the Turms themselves will need to be done.

Simply editing the eqp file will enable them."

Is it possible to add also the 'twisty' periscope thingy with this method to the periscope?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119520&highlight=twisty

That would be really great. It adds a lot of immersion. The periscope looks so much nicer with it. Since there has been a version for GWX, I guess Flakmonkey would be fine if one uses his model.

Cheers, LGN1

Murr44

04-15-09, 01:35 PM

The Twisty Periscope Thingy was made for GWX 1.03. It seems to work alright with "stock" GWX 3.0 sub skins. From what I've been told though, it may not work so well with some skin mods: you may get weird looking textures.

P.S. Thanks Tarjak (& Privateer too) for your work on this mod.

LGN1

04-15-09, 01:53 PM

Hi Murr44,

I know that it works with GWX 3 and actually, I have added it to my GWX 3 files. However, if I am not wrong it uses the same files so there is a conflict and people have to choose what they want. Either the emblems,... or the twisty thingy (I guess most users do not want to add the twisty thingy to the turm files themselves). That's why I ask privateer to combine both.

I hope he will do it.

Best, LGN1

Madox58

04-15-09, 04:10 PM

It can be done that way.
:up:

And I did suggest doing it that way once before.
For the very reason that the Turm file itself would not need to
be adjusted in every upgrade of GWX for SH3.

I'll contact FlakMonkey for permission.
:salute:

nikbear

04-15-09, 05:39 PM

Must admit would be excellent having the rest of the U-boats with the periscope stabiliser rods fitted :yeah:

Madox58

04-15-09, 05:59 PM

Given permission to include this?
It can be done by date in the eqp file.
:DL
So far,
I've got the Life Rings, Plaques, and Twisty-Thingy to add.

:hmmm:
Anything else anyone can think of?

Aces

04-16-09, 02:52 AM

Hiya m8,

Great work, flags and pennants (a la RB) pretty please sir :)

I had a look at combining them myself but my speciality is 2D graphics and some programming and not 3D modelling so I was out of my depth there, please excuse the pun :)

Cheers and thanks

Aces

LGN1

04-16-09, 10:33 AM

Thank you very much, privateer :up: :up: :up:

I am looking forward to the complete package!

Best, LGN1

LordNeuro"Serbia"

04-16-09, 02:04 PM

Given permission to include this?
It can be done by date in the eqp file.
:DL
So far,
I've got the Life Rings, Plaques, and Twisty-Thingy to add.

:hmmm:
Anything else anyone can think of?

How do u open and edit the eqp file?
And what about the racerboys flags . Cann u add them too with u mod?

TarJak

04-16-09, 04:35 PM

Given permission to include this?
It can be done by date in the eqp file.
:DL
So far,
I've got the Life Rings, Plaques, and Twisty-Thingy to add.

:hmmm:
Anything else anyone can think of?
How about broom sticks and walking sticks?:DL Common Tower adornments on return from successful patrols.

Reece

04-16-09, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by privateer http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1084701#post1084701)
Given permission to include this?
It can be done by date in the eqp file.
:DL
So far,
I've got the Life Rings, Plaques, and Twisty-Thingy to add.

:hmmm:
Anything else anyone can think of?
There's no holding you back, many thanks for including the twisty thingy!

Madox58

04-17-09, 05:56 PM

How about broom sticks and walking sticks?:DL Common Tower adornments on return from successful patrols.

Got any pictures?
:hmmm:

I borrowed a computer for the weekend so I can finish the IIA
and the additional dat for objects.

I have the Life Rings done and will get on the Twisty-Thing.

RB's Flags and Pendants is being handled by someone else.
But I'll be here to assist him if needed.

TarJak

04-17-09, 07:15 PM

Can't immediately find a pic of the broomsticks. Picture of the walking stick on U-177 a type IXD-2:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/U-177007.jpg

Horseshoes?
http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg8/scaled.php?server=8&filename=u99leferchevalemblmeduu.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

How about deformable turms like this?
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5742/u46retouraveckiosqueend.jpg

Madox58

04-17-09, 07:42 PM

I have thought about a damaged Turm Object.
Like the Deck Gun when it gets whacked.
:hmmm:
There is a damage 3D model for that.

When I'm able, Ill try something for the Turm.

evan82

04-19-09, 09:25 AM

Thank You Privateer for this great mod.:yeah: Now conning tower look's more realistic with bigger emblems. To small emblems was always a problem but not now.:rock: My congratulations. Very good job. Thanks once again for your time and skills and this stuff.:arrgh!:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8964/sh3img194200916550968.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5888/sh3img194200916619875.png

marv2112

04-21-09, 10:02 PM

Wow! This is very cool! :d

Desga

04-22-09, 07:07 AM

Hello privateer I would ask a question ... I used your fantastic in the war's campaign:yeah:.... now I'd like to use the same emblems on my submarine when I play game in multyplayer ... it is possible to do this?:hmmm:

Graf Paper

04-22-09, 10:28 PM

If you and all of your online multiplayer friends also use this mod then you should have no problems, Desga. :yeah:

Otherwise, you'll have to disable the mod because it will cause the game to crash in multiplayer. SH3 allows mods to textures and graphics without any fuss, but the fact that the turm models themselves are modified means there would be a file conflict due to the .dat files not matching.

Also, if you and your friends use custom emblems, all of you would have to download those and place them inside your emblems folder. This is usually located in:
C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter III\data\Emblems\SubEmblems
if you have installed SH3 or GWX to the default location.

I hope this helps!

By the way, privateer, I hope your computer gets fixed soon. Until then, let me know if you need to borrow mine for testing. Love what you've done so far! :03:

Desga

04-23-09, 03:51 AM

ok Graf Paper, I will play on line with my team with the same mod's installation we will have activated this mod "Turm Emblems Your Way" . But when I will play on line how can I see the emblem if there is not a way to activate it..?
When you make a career there is the possibility to choose the emblem you want, the equipment, in the section of the u-boot .... but this is not possible in multyplayer you can only choose the type of u-boot but not emblem not equipment or I am wrong? I do not know the way ...:hmmm:

owner20071963

04-23-09, 04:03 AM